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Hi
I have a wifi AP at home, and one at work, Both use WPA-PSK with mac addy auth. SSID Visible cause sh1te WM2003SE OS cant cope with hidden SSID.
Get a whole load of oddities from the XDA IIs. Both SSID's and keys are listed in the wifi setup on the device. What I would expect is that if I switch the device on when I am within range of the AP @ work, it connects to it no fuss, likewise, when I drive home, switch XDA on it connects, no fuss, unfortunately this is not usually the case. The following are in order of likelyness to occur!
Problem 1
Sometimes I switch it on, and it sits there searching for eons, never finds AP. If I disable and then re-enable wifi on the XDA then it connects.
Problem 2
Sometimes, the XDA will tell me that its connected to my home network when I am at work - it isn't!
Problem 3
Sometimes I switch it on, it connects to the AP, but no net connectivity - looking. Using PPC Ipconfig, I see that device never managed to get an IP addy. Stop, start wifi problem resolves
Problem 3
Occasionally, the PPC forgets the shared secret, and I have to re-input it, start/stop wifi before it will connect to the AP
Problem 4
Sometimes, it just BLUNTLY REFUSES to connect to the AP if I do the above. In this case I try all the above with a soft reset as well. If that fails then I need remove all the wifi AP's, soft reset, wait (ages) for it to see a new AP, enter the PSK then it will connect.
It also struggles to connect to other APs (wifi hotspots). Things work a whole lot better when there is just one AP involved (i,e not work and home).
Prob 4 occurs once/week, prob 1 occurs every day, others somewhere between. All problems are of course COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE for a product that has been released to the consumer.
Nigel
Hello Veledron,
I've a similar problem: at our company WLAN is set up to reqire WPA and authentication with user certificates. Since it is not possible to import user certificates in Windows Mobile 2003 SE "out of the box" I found out how to do that - it is described here
http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/crtimprt.html
a little bit difficould procedure, but it worked - I can see my personal company certificate in the private-certificate store of my MDAIII.
The problem is, that I can't get a connection. WLAN-Manager says "connected", but I can't receive an IP-address - and in the logs of our Cisco-APs I can't see anything from my PDA. What also is a little bit strange for me: the MDAIII does not remember the setting "authentication with certificates", it always switches to "authentication using PEAP"...
any idea?
thanks
Gerald
Hi Veledron & gekap
I too have similiar problem with my netgear router at home. It seems that everytime it connect to the network it will just keep scanning eventhough it prompt that it already connected. It been 2 days and still i cannot manage to connect
Hopefully there is a solution to this problem.
Regardz
shark
There is.... Turn off AP, or move device to location where it is out of range, remove all WiFi profiles from device, hard reset, turn on router. wait (ages) for device to realize that there is a wifi ap nearby, enter PSK, all is well.
There seems to be no pattern to the WiFi failures, I have to do the above maybe twice a week to get it to connect. When the device gets itsself into a poor state this is the only way.
You cant delete an active profile, and the profile list only appears when wifi is turned on (stupid!) hence the need to turn off the AP.
Nigel
Hi Guys,
I manage to solve my wifi problem,
i just add the XDA IIs mac address to my netgear router plus assigned a reserve ip address based on it mac address and was able to connect successfully with no problem. Hope this solution helps.
Regardz
Sharkz
Hi,
thanks for the tips, but all of them are not a solution for me. I do not have any problems connecting to WLANs using WEP or to unencrypted WLANs, but i guess that there are problems with WPA in the PDA2K. I think the guys of you who have succussful connected to a WLAN using WPA have done that using WPA-PSK, not WPA with TKIP as encryption-method and PEAP or certificates as authentication method over 802.1x.
In our company TKIP is mandatory, and it is necessary to use certificates for authentication - this can be done with either EAP-TLS (so called "smartcard or certificate" in the setup-menu of the PDA-2k) or using PEAP. I've troubleshooted this a lot, and I can't see any authentication packet coming to our Cisco-APs from the PDA2K using this methods (I've turned on advanced logging on the APs to see any little bit...).
I fear the worst, that the WLAN-driver of the PDA2K does not support TKIP! Of course WPA is supportet from Windows 2003 Mobile SE, but in my opinion that is not enough - the card driver down the OS must also support the whole WPA-Standard, and it seems to me that the PDA2K driver does only support WPA-PSK. I found an article which can be an explanation of the problem:
http://www.socketforum.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2924
So I've 2 questions to you:
.) which driver version is installed on your PDA2Ks? (you can find that in the registry under HKLM\SOFTWARE\Drivers\Wavedev - I've: Common: 0.04.01, Device: 1.06.01 GER, DriverVersion: 0.08.00, Patch: 1.00)
.) has anyone of you ever connected to a WLAN using WPA (not WPA-PSK!)?
thanks
Gerald
Does anyone have a problem with their wifi locking up their xda iis? I have bought a linksys router and am getting frequent lockups when using wifi. I am using the shipped O2 rom, thanks
I have no problem at all with Netgear router. Try changing the connection speed setting in the router to the "b" mode only. Hopefully this can solve your problem.
No problems here either I'm afraid. I'm using a Draytek Vigor 2600VG at home and at work there are two of us with XDA IIs using a Linksys BEFDSR41W wireless router and no problems there either.
Sorry! :-(
Try a hard reset (gulp!) and see if you still have problems (Without anything else installed that might be inteferring) otherwise might be a faulty unit perhaps.
--Neil
I second what xanth said, I had the problem where wifi would not turn on, so I hard reset and installed each software back individually the problem was Calligrapher 7.3 did not like being in Storage or Storage Card only in Main memory (go figure)
efjay said:
Does anyone have a problem with their wifi locking up their xda iis? I have bought a linksys router and am getting frequent lockups when using wifi. I am using the shipped O2 rom, thanks
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I use the XDA IIs on a variety of wireless networks and experience problems with an alarming regularity. The most annoying is the fact that the top bar seems to loose functionality, when using wireless!!
I will actually add that I do seem to have problem with the "range" of WiFi.
I need to do more testing, but it doesn't seem to be more than 20m or so before have communication issues/timing out :-( Will have to find out what our walls are made of!!!
I have problems connecting sometimes. I regularly use three routers, Draytek, Buffalo and Belkin. The only time that it locks up is when using skype. The skype problem is a known issue with no cure.
Nigel
I am having a problem where my Siemens SX66 will loose connection to my Microsoft MN700 wireless AP on occasion. -It simply appears as if the Wifi radio shuts itself off.
Weird.....
Wifi has never worked for me. It simply doesn't work in the way nature intended.
The main problem (as far as I can tell) seems to be that it cannot get DNS or IP configuration settings from my router (Belkin 7630) automatically.
It can connect to my wireless network without any hassle, but that's about it. If I enter DNS and IP settings manually it works fine. But this is unworkable if you want to connect to another wireless network.
If I can't sort this out by next week I'm going to sell the unit on eBay. It's been nothing but a pain since I mistakenly bought it in December.
Wifi is a nightmare on this device! I'm going back to Nokia.
I am going to do a hard reset and test to see if i still get any freezes. Anyone know of any software i can use to backup my text messages?
WiFi
Hi guys,
Haven't had too many issues with WiFi over here - standard O2 Asia ROM (with the BT 3500 update).
I'm running a Netgear WG602 @ home with 64bit WEP and a Dlink AP2100 @ work with WPA-PSK. No connectivity problems at either location, both DHCP. It does however take a few minutes to connect, but this is on the odd occasion.
The only frustrating thing with the WiFi is that I have to soft-reset often to turn Wi-Fi on - any ideas? Hopefully O2 will fix this in the next ROM. Other than that, I've had the Nokia 9500, P900/800 and this is by far the best device for the power user.
Just me 2c!
Cheers
cK
Wifi is on all the time on my device, sometimes when I switch the device on while within range of an AP it does not connect. Often switching wifi off and then onn again causes it to connect. If this does not work then I can often go into the network dialogue section, and see the network marked as 'availble' but not connected (why it sometimes does not auto connect I dont know). Tapping connect usually cures. If that does not work then I too need to soft reset.
I hope like you that they fix this cause its damned anoying. I will be interested to see what the Benq P50 is like when its released. I shall get one from expansys to test and ship it back within the 7 days.
Nigel
As for those having problems with specific access points. It is not nessesarily the fault of the blue angel. It seems to me that none of the manufacturers of wireless kit understand the term 'standard' they all seem to have their own take on it, which is why kit from different manufacturers refuses to talk to each other. I am of the opinion that they do it in purpose to lock you into using their client cards with their AP's !!
Try it with some non Belkin kit and see what happens.
Nigel
Well i tried a hard reset and didnt install any apps and tried connecting to wifi again and still got a lockup and loss of connectivity. Im going to swap the router for another make and see what happens
Swapped my linksys router for a D-Link and so far no problems after 2 days. so looks like my problem was my router.
Swapped my linksys router for a D-Link and so far no problems after 2 days. so looks like my problem was my router.
XDA IIi and wifi
I just bought one of these and can't get it connected. I have a netgear wg602 access point. When I finally figured out how to set the IP manually (the 02 xda tech support said it can't be done - maybe they're right ;-)
I now have it saying it's connected, with right IP address. My DNS and gateway are set up for the wireless adapter in network adapters. The signal is average. The XDA says wifi is connected. The access point even says it's authenticated and associated - same as my other stations.
Only problem is, internet explorer doesn't find any web pages - says "The page you are looking for cannot be found" (works fine through GPRS)
Also, terminal services times out trying to connect to an internal IP address (to eliminate DNS as a problem)
So, anyone know how I troubleshoot network problems - it looks like a TCP/IP issue? Can't find ping or arp etc. I've also tried an IP address that I know works on the network.
thanks for any help
Dave
Hi
For ping, ipconfig and stuff, head to http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html
I have had multiple issues trying to get wifi working reliably. It still fails now, but there are a few tricks to get it working again. Most of my wifi issues have been due to regular use of three AP's [email protected] and [email protected] along with GPRS and VPN.
To start with I suggest setting all the ****e in connections (internet and home network to 'My ISP' then goto your wifi setup, network adapters, and tell it that the wireless card connects to the internet. Now, tap ok, and goto tools, network cards, tap the active connection (it must already be connected) and ensure that its set to internet.
Next soft reset the thing, and wait for it to connect to yr wifi. Now, use the ipconfig tool and ping tool from the above site to check that all is OK. Check that its got the default gateway right and a sensible LAN IP.
I have found on occasion that I can be connected via wifi, but that the device is still trying to talk using an old IP allocated by gprs which means nothing to my lan! IPconfig will show if all is OK.
Whoever wrote the whole of the networking system (and its terrible gui's) on windows mobile wants shooting. I usually have 2 VPN profiles setup under my work network. If I leave it set to that, and use wifi from my lan to connect to the internet all is fine. However if I try and access a local server, the damned thing starts trying to connect a vpn (it aint inteligent enough to work out that the IP I asked it to connect to is local).
I have been trying to find a setting for all this networking rubbish that allows me to do *everything* without reconfiguring each time - to no avail.
Another thing to note is that you cant send/receive MMS messages while wifi is connected (more stupidity), it tries to connect to the MMS server using the wifi connection, and the telco blocks it cause it wants to charge you for sending MMS over GPRS. Only solution is to disconnect wifi, send MMS then reconnect wifi!!!
Nigel
No problems with WiFi for me
Hmm I'm using an O2 Asia Rom as well.. and my wifi manager seems to automatically create "settings" for each AP it detects and I seem to have no problems connecting at all... been using WiFi around my house since the first day i got it..
i am using a Linksys Wireless 802.11b router..
btw I am new here.. finally able to register!
How's everybody doing?
Cannot turn off IEEE 802.1x
Has anyone had problems unchecking the 'IEEE 802.1x netwrok access control' checkbox???
I uncheck it, but then when I go back to the screen (click on the connection | then select 802.1x tab at the bottom) it has checked itself again!
The XDA IIs does not save the setting - it just keeps re checking itself 02 help have been no use - they sent me an instruction manual and it even says in one of the step 'uncheck IEEE check box'
Im am using a netgear wirelesss router and have also tried on a d-link
Sugestions - is anyone else having this problem??
Home LAN ok with WEP but can't connect to works WPA-PSK secured network.
I have a fairly new ROM
Operator version 5.40.1.179
Rom version 1.40.00 WWE
Rom date 03/10/05
Radio version 1.06.02
Protocol version 1337.38
ExtROM version 1.40.179 WWE
Don't really want to do another ROM upgrade unless it is ABSOLUTELY essential. Anyone have a similar ROM with a working WPA-PSK network?
When we set WPA-PSK on the Blue Angel it insists on 802.1X authentication with either smart card or certificate. Our network doesn't use either but the tick box to turn off IEEE 802.1X access is greyed out on the BA. It isn't greyed out when we use WEP.
Is there a registry setting I could amend to turn off IEEE 802.1X when WPA-PSK is activated.
Do radio upgrades also require full hard resets?
Do hope someone can help.
On the Network Key screen what are you setting in the Authentication drop down? You should be choosing WPA-PSK and Data Encryption TKIP. Uncheck if checked The Key is provided for me automatically, and enter the key in network key box. Key index should be 1 by default. You should IGNORE the 802.1x tab.
I will let others answer regarding the Radio ROM upgrade as I am not sure what exists for the BA. But I doubt that this would solve the question anyway.
Hope this helps!
Jbn,
We are doing exactly as you say (TKIP, uncheck auto key, enter key & key index 1). We haven't been trying to set the details on the 802.1x tab but when we failed to connect we took a look at it.
We have MAC filtering set up and have included the BA MAC address (as provided by vxIP). Checked and double checked the key.
Just been informed that setting EAP type to PEAP in 802.1x tab rather than smart card or certificate might help.
Fingers crossed this will fix it.
Got it working
I had it working with my K-Jam original ROM, although I would much prefer support for 802.11i/AES...
Does anyone know if AKU2 introduces support for WPA2/AES/EAP-TLS or EAP-TTLS?
Now, there's a trick I think I read here before:
type your PSK with your on-screen keyboard, not the hardware keuboard.
Give it a try and let us know.
Cheers,
Hal
Oooops! Sorry guys, BA forum... My post is partly irrelevant.
Still, try the on-screen keyboard...
Re: Got it working
hal said:
I had it working with my K-Jam original ROM, although I would much prefer support for 802.11i/AES...
Does anyone know if AKU2 introduces support for WPA2/AES/EAP-TLS or EAP-TTLS?
Now, there's a trick I think I read here before:
type your PSK with your on-screen keyboard, not the hardware keuboard.
Give it a try and let us know.
Cheers,
Hal
Oooops! Sorry guys, BA forum... My post is partly irrelevant.
Still, try the on-screen keyboard...
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All suggestions greatly appreciated, I think I have been trying the on screen keyboard but I will recheck.
Blue Angel will not connect to 802.11G network
I thought I would try out a few of the suggestions on my home LAN even though it was working fine under WEP. Then I would be set up for the office LAN on Monday (or so I thought).
It turns out my wireless access point does not have WPA-PSK facility (I may look for a firmware upgrade tomorrow).
However when I changed the network from mixed mode to just 802.11G I was unable to connect to it. Resetting back to mixed mode & it connects ok. It would appear that my problem is not WPA-PSK but more specifically 802.11G networks. Does WPA-PSK only operate on 802.11G networks or can it run on 802.11b?
I have seen the 5 page thread on the Wizard index relating to a cab installation / registry fix to enable 802.11g access. Unfortunately the cab didn't install on the Blue Angel.
Can anyone suggest a fix and do you have 802.11g access with your Blue Angels?
BA does not have 802.11g. The Wizard supports it with appropriate ROM or Registry updates.
WPA-PSK is independent of B/G. So, yes, if your workplace is G only then this could explain the problem that you are having.
jbn said:
BA does not have 802.11g. The Wizard supports it with appropriate ROM or Registry updates.
WPA-PSK is independent of B/G. So, yes, if your workplace is G only then this could explain the problem that you are having.
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Thanks jbn, it's starting to make sense now.
I have just made the registry entries required by the Wizard to my BA. I'll reboot and set network to g and see how it goes..............
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DID NOT WORK. Perhaps the BA hardware simply can't do 802.11g. Can anyone confirm the WiFi of the BA is different to the Wizard AND not capable of 802.11g?
IIRC, the BA uses TI's TNETW1110 chip, which does *NOT* support 802.11g at all. The code for supporting the newer TNETW1130 (which is what I think they use in the Wizard) is actually present ... which is why WiFi will become disabled if you turn on the 802.11g registry hacks in your BA ...
Stabilo said:
DID NOT WORK. Perhaps the BA hardware simply can't do 802.11g. Can anyone confirm the WiFi of the BA is different to the Wizard AND not capable of 802.11g?
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BA cannot do 802.11g because of the hardware. Never, ever.
If you have a g access point, it must be set to mixed mode for the BA (or any b-only device) to connect. Note that while the b device is active on the network, any other g clients will see slower connect speeds because of the compatibility mode. This is why some homogeneous environments would set to disallow b connections.
As far as WPA-PSK goes, I am using it with my BA. Any connect problems I've had were always due to something set wrong on the AP. The BA is WPA, not WPA2 (a/k/a 802.11i). Also, it does not support the AES mode of encryption. So make sure your AP is set to WPA-PSK (1 is usually implied when 2 is not supported) and TKIP, not AES or TKIP+AES.
One other suggestion. If you happen to be using a certain type of Linksys AP, there was a bug in one version of the firmware whereby if you had ever entered WEP keys and then tried to switch to WPA, it wouldn't work without first clearing the WEP keys with a hard reset. I had this issue and it drove me crazy until I read about the solution.
Hope this helps,
Paul
ratazzi,
Thanks for your comments.
Don't think they will like it at work if I tell them I need to slow the network down for 50 users just so I can connect my BA
Could I connect a 802.11b wireless access point to my desktop / laptop at work (connected to the internet) and connect my BA to the access point without slowing down the rest of the network?
It is good to know that the BA can do WPA-PSK even if only at 802.11b. I realise 802.11b is fast enough for the BA but if corporate networks are running at 802.11g then the BA will fail to connect at any speed.
Any other solutions to connect a BA to 802.11g?
ActivSync is ok but I would prefer wireless.
Is there a SD LAN card that would do 802.11g (plus WPA-PSK)?
Enabling mixed mode on a decent Wireless Access Point will not force all clients to run at 11Mbps. Those that can will do 54, those that can't won't.
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Enabling mixed mode on a decent Wireless Access Point will not force all clients to run at 11Mbps. Those that can will do 54, those that can't won't.
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That sounds good to me jbn, thanks again.
Stabilo said:
ratazzi,
Could I connect a 802.11b wireless access point to my desktop / laptop at work (connected to the internet) and connect my BA to the access point without slowing down the rest of the network?
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You can do that.
However your IT staff would probably go beserk.
I check regularly to ensure that none of my users has done the very thing ... One user demended that he be allowed to and got very annoyed when I refused. He didn't see anything wrong with introducing a consumer grade (read low security) AP into an environment where we had paid top dollar for AP's with heavy security and spent many many hours locking everything down as much as humanly possible.
Remember WPA-PSK is not intended for enterprise level security ... it's better than WEP but given a poor passphrase it's vulnerable.
Is there a SD LAN card that would do 802.11g (plus WPA-PSK)?
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A quick search of google says yes. Don't know if they are any good ... perhaps you could let US know?
Some good points there Doormat.
If I use a complex passphrase (WPA-PSK) and MAC filtering I am assuming it will be relatively safe i.e. as safe as the main network since that is what the network guys have set up.
Having recently purchased an E100, 2 off E200's a C500 and a M2000, together with about 3GB of SD cards my budget is rather stretched.
As soon as I can I will pick up a SD LAN card and post my results.
Thanks for all the help from XDA-developers.
Doormat,
My attempts with google suggest 802.11g only exists for CF cards not SD cards. Or that was the comment made 8th Jan by ms mobiles http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4767.html
Do you have a link for a SD card?
802.11b devoces will impact 802.11g device!
JBN,
I have to partly disagree with you:
using mixed mode will negatively impact the throughput of you .11g network.
This is due to the protection bit that is being set then for the .11g devices/APs.
The global effect is that while the datarate of the 11g clients will be of 54Mbps (potentially), the real throughput on an enterprise grade AP will be at best around 17/18Mbps instead of 25-27Mbps.
That's a very good reason for corp netadmins to try and ban .11b devices on an 11g network...
Doormat, I agree with you. In my terminology an AP brought by an end-user in a corp network qualifies as a rogue AP and will be immediately blocked.
WPA2/802.11i/RSN with eap-tls/ttls or PEAP is the first basic rule of thumb... Even @home that's what I run. Call me paranoid ;-)
Cheers,
Hal
hal, you are technically correct of course, but the net result in most configurations is not noticeable as far as performance goes. There is a huge difference with WAPs that were forced to B for all clients when only one such client had connected amongst a set of Gs. In my (limited I accept) experience there is no practical difference for most of the time. In high bandwidth environments it is an academic discussion because in those circumstances systems should be connected using 100BaseT or GigE in a switched network rather than a collision-prone network.
Let's not lose sight of the original question though with this level of technical conversation!
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Doormat,
My attempts with google suggest 802.11g only exists for CF cards not SD cards. Or that was the comment made 8th Jan by ms mobiles http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4767.html
Do you have a link for a SD card?
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Here's what I found:
http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20060209A9053.html
I must admit ... I hadn't noticed the march release date before.
Damn - hate it when I accidentally double post!
Hi,
I can conect to my home wi-fi ok and it gets an ip address. i can ping an address but after 30 seconds or so it stops working. it still thinks its connected but cant ping or navigate to any websites
any help greatly apreciated
Hi
I also have a similar problem
I have a 802.11b broadband router (linksys) which works fine with my two wifi PC's and my Wifi XDA Exec to access the Internet and collect e-mail
I just got an XDA Orbit and although it "sees" and connects to the Broadband router it will NOT allow access to the internet or e-mail (apart from one very short half page of ntlworld.com home page on one occasion)
WORST than that - it HANGS the wi-fi router and I have to reset it before I can access the Internet from any other PC's !!
What am I doing WRONG ???
Any suggestions welcomed
just noticed there is another post about this problem
Take a look Here. This worked for me
I originally had trouble connecting to the internet. I connected to my router and added a device registering my Orbit MAC address and the other info required and bingo works a treat. I checked the other link from jamin100, personally didnt have to do this!!
SOLUTION!
Hi @ll..
i had the same Problem..
I connect per WLAN to my accesspoint, then i can open Websites with any Browser.. but after about 30seconds it seems, that the connection is down.
Here i have a solution, that works great at my XDA Orbit
Goto Settings->Connections
Change the Power-Settings of WLAN to Power optimized--> MAX
then the Problem should be solved ;-)
GREAT
This fixed it
Why ???
I should not need extra power - I am 3 feet from the WiFi router ??
XDA Orbit now get hot after 20 mins use onWiFi !!
Hi,
I Am Able To Connect And Browse The Internet At Home Perfectly well However When I Am at University I Try To Connect To The Wifi. It Will Connect but After A Bit It Will Not Load Up Any Pages although It Still Shows I Am Connected! Furthermore my Mate who Has A Mini S And P990i Is Able To Connect And Browse Perfectly.
Another Thing Is That When I Try To Search For Networks It Will Not Show Anything But When I Restart The Orbit It Will Show The Available Wifi!
Finaly I Cant Stop That "Message Sent" Notification, I Have Tried To Do All The Tweaks But Nothing Works
Any Help Will Be Much Appreciated
@eddieorz:
it´s the same at my orbit. it get very hot after some time "online" ;-)
i hope, this will be fixed at the new Update in summer 2007 (WM6)
I know I know, me digging in some old threads.....
Somebody has the solution already???
Thanks again.
Hi Guys, i have BA with wm6 , and i wanted to use it as a wifi card to connect to internet in my laptop ,,what i mean is to receive interent on my PDA then send it to my laptop..is it possible ??
I hope someone can help , because i have old computer and i don t want have another USB connecetion in it.
Thansk
you can read this
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/pocketpcproxy.shtml
But taking into account problems, range, stability, speed and price of dedicated WIFI card for Laptop I would really propose you cheapest wifi card (PCMCIA or USB).