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WM5 GPS application - iGuidance compatibility?

Hi
Does anyone know how to setup IGuidance to work with WM5? I dont know how to work the BT ports at all. In 2003se, i could use the "scan" for bt data and it'd find the itrek gps unit but now it results in "no gps found". alternatively, what other gps software will work other than tomtom? I dont have tomtom =(

I've got version 2.1 and it seems to work with WM5. I add the gps to the bluetooth and then I create an incoming and outgoing port. I set my gps to port 6. In IGuidance it won't detect the gps but if you manually choose port 6 it will work just fine.
Andy

iGuidance 2.1.3 locks up my Wizard after several minutes. Grrr...

I am having all sorts of trouble with my PDA2K (WM5) and iGuidance. Although I think it has more to do with my bluetooth than anything. When I first started trying to get it to work it gave me coordinates that I was in Africa... Anyway, I think I am going to go back to 2003SE.

I'm having a different problem with iGuidance v2.1.3 on WM5. It installs and runs just fine. I use BT over COM6 and it seems fine. The problem I have is that the coordinates are off. The strange thing is that when I run GPSInfo (a separate app) it shows the correct coordinates - iGudiance thinks they are different and thinks I'm in a different location ( a few miles away).
I gave up on it and decided to go back to 2003SE (iGuidace v2.1 that worked perfectly fine on that configuration a long time ago). I followed teh steps to format/clean hive and did the down grade but am having a different problem. I've seen other people running into similar issues but I've not been able to get around it
"BTTrayCE - bluetooth can no longer be used because the license has expired" - I have tried a number of things using different BT stacks, 2003SE builds, reset (soft+hard) etc. Same problem!!! Argh - I'm stuck. I really miss my GPS!

Hi krille,
I also had similar problems with my SX66 and iGuidance and finally decided to go back to win 2003 because it worked fine with it. In WM5 my BT GPS receiver was never able to make a connection with iGuidance. But now I am having a different problem. I cannot downgrade even though I followed all the instructions correctly posted on the BA_Downgrade page. The upgrade program ( MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe ) does not seem to identify the rom versions and though it gives me a successfully upgraded message nothing had happened. I cannot downgrade now and stuck with WM5. Did any of you experience this when downgrading and can offer me any help.
DEK.

I've been upgrading/downgrading with differnt ROMs without any problems
Make sure to disable activesync on the pc and copy the nbf files as described in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5. Sometimes the verion info update to/from doesn't show between WM5/2003SE...
What happens when you click Update to continue?

BaUpgradeUt.exe worked
Thanks for your reply. I followed all the steps as described in the link you have sent but MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe did not upgrade (downgrade to 2003SE) though I got a message saying it did. Then I tried the file BaUpgradeUt.exe in PH20B folder and it did work. My device data file says my SX66 is in fact PH20B1 though. I do not know why MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe cannot update my ROM. Anyway I am happy now with my WM2003SE and iGuidance and BT all work faster with ROM update to 1.40. Now I am planing to customize my ExtROM to have all my personal settings and programs so that I want feel bad not having WM2005. Thanks for your willingness to help.
DEK.

[Solved (quite)] Trouble syncing my PPC with ActiveSync over Bluetooth

Hi everyone!
I have already posted this thread on the Modaco forum but I'm still getting no answer. I'm posting it here. I know there are a few threads about ActiveSync problems but none of them solves my problem!
I'm using an Orange SPV M650 (French branded HTC P3300) for a few monthes now, and I've been successfully syncing it with ActiveSync over Bluetooth from the beginning. At this time, I had created a BT COM port with the Windows Bluetooth stack, configured ActiveSync v4.5 to authorize connections through that port ; then paired my PDAPhone to the computer and checked the "ActiveSync" option that was available in the services listing. I was then able to sync using the ActiveSync application on my PPC.
A few days ago I deleted the USB Bluetooth dongle on my laptop from the "Device manager", it's been installed back successfully on the next reboot BUT now I can't synchronize. The "ActiveSync" service no longer appears in the services list of my computer from the device's BT configuration tool. I only have "Serial port" showing.
Reinstalled ActiveSync twice, didn't changed anything.
What should I do?
Thank you!
(here are a few screenshots, French language used)

Up! Nobody's an idea?

i can only suggest something i do when i have similar problems:
1. uninstall everything involved
2. manually clean up all involved registry keys
sometimes, the remainders of not completely uninstalled programs can cause problems if you install them again.
i never ran into your specific problem, but trying this will at least make you forget your synch problem for the 60mins you are busy.
...and sometimes, above procedure even helps!

I had to reinstall from scratch Windows XP for other reasons and the thing is still not working! I really don't understand, I'm wondering if I'm not doing something wrong... How should I do?

Hey..
Hey found this manual for you..
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/activesync+via+bluetooth?t=anon

Thank you. It's exactly that way that I'm trying! The problem is at step 12, the only service available on my paired computer is a "Serial port", not ActiveSync. I double checked that ActiveSync was properly configured on the correct serial port and it is...

i had this problem with XP, i sorted it out, but cant remembe quite how i did it, i have a feeling it was to do with the COM ports that you use for blueooth. upgraded to Vista and no problems, my suggestion is to go to vista, its much better then XP and everything works.

I have hardware unsupported under Vista (pro-soundcard) and my computer is a little bit too old (512 MB of RAM are fine with XP, won't be with Vista). Anyway I'm okay with XP, I won't change my OS just for an ActiveSync problem.
Anyway I updated my Artemis with the B&B 3.7 WM6 ROM and now it works... Was a problem on the phone I guess.
Thank you for your help

COM4 dissapeared

Hi,
I use an MDA Compact III with the official T-Mobile WM6 ROM (dutch). After installing Trackr (www.trackr.nl) software I'm facing a serious problem: my internal GPS seems to be missing. In some GPS software I can still see COM4, but in Google Maps (for example) COM4 is missing. I've set the Windows Mobile GPS setting off, to avoid conflicts. I never use more than one GPS program at the time. Whether COM4 is visible or not, none of the GPS applications can connect to the internal GPS.
Is there a way to reset the COM4 port, so I can access the GPS again? I uninstalled Trackr and did several soft-resets, but nothing is working?
Thanks for your advice,
Wouter

Hi Wouter,
What version of trackr! did you use? The most current versions try to detect the MDA Compact III and avoid issues you describe by automatically disabling the GPS auto-detect option.
When using the GPS auto-detect option on your device in older trackr! versions, issues you describe might happen. This is caused by an external component used to access GPS devices. More information about this can be found here: http://www.geoframeworks.com/forum/Topic1253-45-1.aspx#bm1270 :
"GPS.NET will modify the "ActiveDevice" key with the Prefix and Index which it finds during detection. The keys starting with "GPSOne" will not need to be modified. Here are the typical steps a user would need to perform to restore their registry:
1) First, delete the "Control Panel Configured Device" key created by GPS.NET:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Control Panel Configured Device
2) Second, the Index and Prefix values underneath the "ActiveDevice" key should be set to "4" and "COM"
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\ActiveDevice "
To be sure, first backup your registry before making changes to the registry.
I hope this will fix the issues you have. I also hope you will still give trackr! a try by downloading the latest version. I'm sorry for the problems experienced by you.
Finally: please try to contact the people at trackr! first before posting your question here. They are more than willing to try to help you with any problems you might have.
Regards,
Marco

Is this an advert or what???

help for dll

hallo friend, i ve a big problem on my p3300, i have downloaded program much important for my job as FIELD TEST, but on artemis does not works.
so i have read on web more more pages and i understand that the problem is a dll that in p3300 /windows there isnt: rilgsm.dll.
without this dll some port are closed on my htc i suppose com 9 and 6 (network ) so field test doesnt work propely!
can someone explane me how i can solve this problem or i can extract or add this dll.
i have actually italian wm6 official on my p3300 , but i can install also a unofficial rom with rilgsm.dll.
i wait for help as soon as possible
thanks

rilgsm.dll is in the Artemis Touch 4.01 WM6.1 WWE ROM - Lite without cube ROM as well as the other versions (full, vanilla, etc) I suppose.
But, I'm not sure that is the complete answer to your problem. I was trying to run a program which ran fine on my previous PPC using com6 but would not run on my Artemis using com4 (needed to run TomTom). Today, I found a solution here that works. It's called portsplitter. I installed it today and sucessfully used TomTom (requires com4) and the other program (requires com6) as well on the newly created com8! (see the link above to makes sense of that). Maybe what you need?
Here's another link in the Artemis forum discussing this issue.

runningtiger said:
rilgsm.dll is in the Artemis Touch 4.01 WM6.1 WWE ROM - Lite without cube ROM as well as the other versions (full, vanilla, etc) I suppose.
But, I'm not sure that is the complete answer to your problem. I was trying to run a program which ran fine on my previous PPC using com6 but would not run on my Artemis using com4 (needed to run TomTom). Today, I found a solution here that works. It's called portsplitter. I installed it today and sucessfully used TomTom (requires com4) and the other program (requires com6) as well on the newly created com8! (see the link above to makes sense of that). Maybe what you need?
Here's another link in the Artemis forum discussing this issue.
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thanks for answer, maybe can you explane how i can set ports?
i need only field test works , it is only excutable file, no need installation, there isnt configuration to do , is very simple, maybe i can send to ou the file to test.
i wait for help thanks again

pls help me

I don't know how to copy just the rilgsm.dll file you want. It's part of the rom and so access is denied on both the phone and via activesync.
Also, I don't know how to set ports. Did you try the portsplitter application I linked to above? I am using an application on my phone right now that uses port 6 thanks to the portsplitter application. Try it!
Upload your application here or post a link, and I'll see if I can give it a try.

i ve uploaded file here: http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=ZL2OLMS0
please try it, anyway i dont know how to use port spkitter right mode, maybe i wrong to setup it
for it i need help

no one answeres.........

what's up with the (mad) face man? I have been trying to help you. I had a busy weekend and we are in totally different time zones - so relax.
Here, I will spell out very clearly how to use portsplitter...
Artemis settings:
start menu\settings\system tab\external GPS
programs tab...com8
hardware tab...com9/baud 4800
access tab...tick (select) manage GPS automatically
PortSplitter settings:
input: using your keyboard type COM8
baud: select 4800
output: select com6 and press 'add' then press 'start splitter'
the program will then be running in the background
Now go to your fieldtest app and set it to use com6 at 4800 baud. Or, if you know it uses com6 by default, just open it and see if it works.
If it works, you have two options. You can either start portsplitter each time you want to use it. Or, go back to the portsplitter app and tick 'autostart' so a link will be placed in the \windows\startup folder and you won't have to start it manually each time you reboot. It will always just run in the background. (edited to ad...) Actually, selecting 'autostart' only saves your settings so each time you open portsplitter it will run on com8 etc. You need to manually put a shortcut in the windows\startup folder for it to actually start up each time you turn your phone off and back on.
Now, if you use the portsplitter AND any other GPS programs (i.e. TomTom), you'll need to set that program (i.e. TomTom) to use com6.
In TomTom you do this by pressing the lower right hand corner of the screen where the clock and signal strength bars are. On the next screen press the right hand side of the screen where the battery status and signal strength bars are. Now press the lower left corner button called 'configure' and choose 'other NMEA GPS receiver' and press 'select'. Set the baud rate on the next screen for 4800 and press 'done'. Finally, press 'com:6 Port Splitter' and press done!
It works fantastic on my Artemis. I have another GPS program and I set up the GPS communications to use com6 at 4800 and it works like a charm as well. I've set PortSplitter to autostart after each boot, and I haven't given it a thought since. It just works.
I tried to download your app but there is a message that says "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable."

I have fieldtest running on my Artemis right now. It looks like it auto sets itself to refresh every 3 seconds. The right hand side of the screen is called 'GSM' the left is called 'data'. Almost all data fields say N/A except for RSSI and Rx Quality. So, it looks like it runs, but does not work.
Probably due to this:
"fieldtest is not compatible with 9100/Prophet/Artemis. For those devices you need to use GSMTestMode.exe"
However, just in case you might still find this info useful...before trying fieldtest on my phone, I searched what it was about and found the info here. You may have already read it, but if not, there you go. BTW, (if you DID read it) you could have just directed me there to download the program rather than how you did it.
Lastly, I tried the registry edit:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE -> SOFTWARE -> HTC -> EngineerMode -> BuildInEngineeringModeApp = 1
It changed nothing, the program is still mostly full of N/A responses. Also, ran the program from \windows and got the same responses as when I ran it from the memory card.

GSMTestMode.exe exists on my Artemis in the \windows folder.
To use it check this registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE -> SOFTWARE -> HTC -> EngineerMode -> BuildInEngineeringModeApp = 1
Mine was 0 originally. I changed it to 1 and soft reset the phone. Then, opened the \windows folder and clicked on GSMTestMode.exe and all the info shows up instantly.
That was with portsplitter running in the background. So, I disabled portsplitter, soft reset and clicked on GSMTestMode.exe again - and it worked. Using/not using portsplitter made no difference. I did not check the values reported since I don't care enough. The rest is up to you.

thank you very much runningtiger, your info were very very precious for me, now works all fine.
only 1 problem: after i edit value from 0 to 1 in registry, gsm test mode works fine , but if i reboot artemis or shutdown and restart registry value back 0.
is there any way to solve?
bye and thanks again

This isn't an issue on my phone. I made the registry change using TotalCommander and used the exit command on the menu to close TotalCommander (rather than the X in the upper right hand corner). Then, I soft reset by pressing the reset button with the stylus. When my phone was ready to go again, I opened GSMTestMode.exe used it, closed it, then reset my phone again, used GSMTestMode.exe again and it worked again. So, the registry change sticks on my phone.
Usually the reason registry changes don't stick is not enough time passed before soft-resetting the device. Some registry changes are ready to use immediately, but others take a moment to actually write to the registry and if that process is interrupted then the change isn't actually made.
Three thoughts on your phone...
1) did you wait about a minute after making the registry change before soft-resetting your phone? This allows plenty of time for the change to be actually written to the registry.
2) wait a minute after doing the registry change, then try instead of soft-resetting doing a full power down by holding the power button until you are asked if you for sure want to turn off the phone and then let it sit a minute (off) before starting it up again?
3) can you try using TotalCommander to make the registry change like I described above?

runningtiger said:
This isn't an issue on my phone. I made the registry change using TotalCommander and used the exit command on the menu to close TotalCommander (rather than the X in the upper right hand corner). Then, I soft reset by pressing the reset button with the stylus. When my phone was ready to go again, I opened GSMTestMode.exe used it, closed it, then reset my phone again, used GSMTestMode.exe again and it worked again. So, the registry change sticks on my phone.
Usually the reason registry changes don't stick is not enough time passed before soft-resetting the device. Some registry changes are ready to use immediately, but others take a moment to actually write to the registry and if that process is interrupted then the change isn't actually made.
Three thoughts on your phone...
1) did you wait about a minute after making the registry change before soft-resetting your phone? This allows plenty of time for the change to be actually written to the registry.
2) wait a minute after doing the registry change, then try instead of soft-resetting doing a full power down by holding the power button until you are asked if you for sure want to turn off the phone and then let it sit a minute (off) before starting it up again?
3) can you try using TotalCommander to make the registry change like I described above?
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i resolved upgrading to wm6 official and now works all fine, so my friend thanks again for support and precious infos

TomTom and internal GPS!!!!

hi, i desparatly need help with tomtom version 6.030.8320 i installed tomtom 7, and as a result i can no longer get the internal gps to pick up satalites, and ive searched forum and tried all com settings and baud rates and nothing is working ive also done 6 hard resets, and nothing works and any help would be greatly appreaciated. just to say i had it all running perfect before tomtom 7 was installed, and even after HARD RESETS it not working. all i see is about 17 grey dots and one grey dot for north satalite but never picks up, any.
ROM version : 3.4.206.2 WWE All updated from o2!
Rom date : 4/18/07
Radio version : 03.06.90
Protocol version : 4.1.13.50
ExtROM : 3.4.206.103
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!! IM STUCK IVE TRIED EVERYTHING

Go back to 6.
I think 6 is the latest version that is compatible with PDAs.
Where did you acquire 7 from?

r8zer said:
hi, i desparatly need help with tomtom version 6.030.8320 i installed tomtom 7, and as a result i can no longer get the internal gps to pick up satalites, and ive searched forum and tried all com settings and baud rates and nothing is working ive also done 6 hard resets, and nothing works and any help would be greatly appreaciated. just to say i had it all running perfect before tomtom 7 was installed, and even after HARD RESETS it not working. all i see is about 17 grey dots and one grey dot for north satalite but never picks up, any.
ROM version : 3.4.206.2 WWE All updated from o2!
Rom date : 4/18/07
Radio version : 03.06.90
Protocol version : 4.1.13.50
ExtROM : 3.4.206.103
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!! IM STUCK IVE TRIED EVERYTHING
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- Have you got a P3300 or an Orange SPV M650 ?
- In settings>external GPS you must have :
---Programs ::: COM4
---Hardware ::: COM9 :::4800 Bauds
---Access :: check the box.
In TT7 you must select other NMEA GPS and select COM4.
Now quit Tomtom, run QuickGPS for downloading satellites position and then run TOMTOM and wait for sync

hi, thanks i got TT7 from this site, and me phone is a o2 xda orbit, and have tried that with going back to tomtom 6 and doing those settings with no luck, i know the gps works because i tested it with holux gps tester, and data was being transmited but said in the corner the date was 18 june 2006, but my phone time and date was set correct.
BUT THANKYOU FOR YOUR REPLY EVERYTHING IS WORTH TRYING TILL YOU GET SO ANNOYED YOU END UP SMASHING THE BLIMING THING!!!

ive tried with gps viewer and its saying the date is 16/04/2006, and all it does it get a north satalite that doesn't pick up, any one help, ive done all the other things like baud rate com ports, and internal still not working im all out of ideas and was wondering if any one had some fresh ideas for me too try.#
THANKYOU!!!!

r8zer said:
................. ive done all the other things like baud rate com ports, and internal still not working im all out of ideas and was wondering if any one had some fresh ideas for me too try.#
THANKYOU!!!!
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I had the same problem in my Touch Cruise!
From 2 days, without reason (I do not changed the version ) tomtom (TTN 6.030 preinstalled) connect to GPS device but hang waiting a valid signal and bring all cpu power, Sometime i have to make soft reset.
Do not work anymore even QuickGPS.
Please, someone help me e r8zer !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank`s in advance

hi, i still have not got my internal gps working, but when i use gps viewer it tells me the date is 18 june 2006, and i do not know if there is a way to change that information or if that date is causing all the problems.!!!! all still a mystery?

Upgrade tomtom may address problem
I had the same problem after upgrading from WM5 to WM6 - I reverted to WM5 and sometime later upgraded Tomtom to the version that sees an internal GPS. I then reburned WM6 nad everything (well, GPS and almost everything else) worked.

r8zer said:
hi, thanks i got TT7 from this site, and me phone is a o2 xda orbit, and have tried that with going back to tomtom 6 and doing those settings with no luck, i know the gps works because i tested it with holux gps tester, and data was being transmited but said in the corner the date was 18 june 2006, but my phone time and date was set correct.
BUT THANKYOU FOR YOUR REPLY EVERYTHING IS WORTH TRYING TILL YOU GET SO ANNOYED YOU END UP SMASHING THE BLIMING THING!!!
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LOL.... if you uninstall TT7 it is not gone...
you have to delete the navigator directory in the PROGRAM FILE directory....
After that try again.... it wil work, but you will have the same with TT6 .....
And the TT7 repack 2 and 3, which you could find on the internet are just working great with the internal GPS of the Artemis......... tried them both....

i did delete everything and also did a hard reset and still nothing, also formated the memory sd aswell, just to have everything from a fresh start and still nothing!!!?

r8zer said:
i did delete everything and also did a hard reset and still nothing, also formated the memory sd aswell, just to have everything from a fresh start and still nothing!!!?
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what OS are you running?

standard o2 rom windows profesional 6

hi
did you manage to get it work on your orbit
thanks

tomtom works fine with bluetooth receiver, still have not got it working again with internal gps, it was before now it's not it's got me stumped!!!