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Hi
on my new Orange SPV m2000, i configured the keylock to lock everything but the power on/off switch. But.. when i receive an SMS, an eMail or when Pocket outlook wants to connect to the GPRS network (and wants to show me the little bubble saying that i'ts about to do so) then the keylock is being turend off (=the SPV is being turned on) and i can use all the keys and the touchscreen.
since i often receive SMS when my phone is min my pocket, i don't really like this kind of behaviour..
doesn't anyone have this problem too? to me it seems like a basic windows mobile problem the way things are being made... or is it just a configuration fault of mine?
any help is appreciated...
cheers
pascal
Same prob with XDAII
Don't want to hijack your thread... but i'm having the same problem with SMS.
But also, every time i receive a phonecall, the phone unlocks, and does not lock itself again. So if i have the phone on silent, it unlocks in my pocket, and then my phone starts calling people by mistake until i lock it again.
I enabled the lock all buttons except power button option but this doesn't work. The only additional software i have running on the phone is TomTom2 and Towa's patch if that makes any difference. ROM ver 1.60.50.
Any solutions? I may otherwise have to get rid of my trusty XDAII otherwise
Thanks!
Sorry, I dont have a solution, but my phone does the same.
Its as if the phones were designed on a desk, and no one bothered to try them in the real world.
Ashby
Hmm... I don't have this problem on my XDAII and I don't think I ever had it. What ROMs are you XDAII peeps using? Standard UK O2 ROMs like me? (I'm up to 1.72 now.)
Wonder why my XDAII wouldn't have this problem but others might, unless it's a ROM problem.
This is a known problem with the Blue Angel, but not with the XDAII that I've heard of.
hi
i think there is alternative way to minimize problem. you can set your password for your phone, then when there is incoming call or message, even though it will unlock all button, but before you use it, the unit will ask you password. so at least you will not miss call anyone anymore.
I'm having the same problem with my Pda2k.
I've disabled all but the power button. And I do have a password on the device.
I've had the following scenarios happen;
Scenario 1:
Every time I receive an SMS, the device powers up, waits for the password - If I don't hear it it then proceeds to stay on and drain the battery.
It just doesn't seem to go back to sleep.
BTW - the unit gets very warm...
Scenario 2:
Even when I do hear it, I often find that the unit is frozen - ie I try to type in the password, the asterisks show on screen but it seems nowhere after that. I'm running Pocket Plus, which has had problems with HTC devices - but I'm not running the today plugin at the moment.
Soft Reset is the only option.
Tom
Yes, i think we are all in the same boat here. The problem is that the device wasnt designed to be in your pocket (I know.. I know.. Pocket PC). Problem being, on recieving sms/mms/call the gsm part of the device sends the wake siganl to the O/S, causing the device to power on.
The simple solution as mentioned above is to lock the keys (password) but again as mentioned this can cause alot of power loss because the device will not sleep if your leg keeps trying to enter the password (in your pocket). I'm guessing that why so many people tend to use the belt clips with these devices. :?
I'm sure it will be in the next feature request so that only the LED indicator will change and flash if chosen but until then we all have to look like geeks with belt clips.
If anyone knows of a registry hack or app that can stop the wake signal form annoying us all the please post. :shock:
Workaround
Hi there,
Same problem on my 9090. But I had this on my former crappy iPAQ 6340 too.
Here's a workaround which works for me:
Go to "Start -> Settings -> Sounds & Notifications"
then select tab "Notifications"
in the "Event"-dropdown select "Messaging: New text message" and uncheck "Display message on screen". Uncheck for "Phone: Voice mail" and "Phone: Missed call" too.
BTW: The warming device is just a feature: you don't have to buy a pocket hand warmer in winter!
Greetz,
Bofo
Or use a 3rd party software like the ones described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15573
Hello
I was hoping that someone could point me in the right direction.
I have enabled the simle 4 digit password on my BA.
On an incoming call the screen becomes available to allow me to answer or reject the call. Normally when I press 'Answer' I can take the call. Then the password prompt will be on the screen.
The problem is that about every second or third call the password challenge won't show up, but the phone application is shown. There is no exit button in the top right corner, I can't make calls, I cant switch it off. The only thing i can do is that I can receive further calls.
The only way to get out of this is by soft-reset.
This happened with the original ROM. So I upgraded to 1.40 in the hope that this would fix it, but it didn't.
I have searched a number of forums to see whether other people have similar problems, but couldn't find anything.
My PDA2k is stock standard, with the only addition being Adobe's PDF reader.
I would appreciate any suggestions to solve this problem (apart from not using a Password challenge), as I'm sick to death of having to reset the device.
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone,
does anybody know what is Display Switch program in B&B 3.7 intended for?
Is it for getting PDA display on big box?
Any tools for remote control over PDA? Use case is like PDA acts like a web cam and therefore it's hard to use in it normal mode.
Thanks
It switchs off the screen...
thanks )
got it on
http://www.ppc4all.com/appdetail.php?id=3169
for me it's useless
For me it's useless. It's also part of psshutxp and i always use the display switch from there...
ups...you already said this in the last post...i should have read before answering
Hello,
I recently recieved a Dash from T-Mobile with WM6 Standard. 1 annoying thing I've noticed is that although the phone's keypad is locked, while reaching for the phone in the pouch, I've accidentally answered calls that I didn't want to . I wish there was a way that required a combination of at least 2 keys be pressed in a certain order before the call would be answered. This would be similar to unlocking the keypad. I could also prevent unknowingly answering a call if the ringer was on silent.
Wow, many views, no solution??
Im not sure about your phone, but you might want to disable any key answer
For my phone ( tornado ), its under settings, phone, call options
Hello karhoe,
Thanks for the suggestion, however that option is already disabled. The problem is that when the phone is in the case or in my pocket, the Answer Key can easily be activiated by the slightest touch which is not good. I'm suprised that more people haven't responded with the same issue.
Yes it happened to me a couple of days ago, quite annoying. The phone was just in my pocket and it rang. Reached in to pull the phone out, and apparently I had inadvertantly touched the softkey that answers the phone, before I could check the caller ID
Well there is no app that I know of that makes you have to press 2 or more keys to answer the phone. And that is what you would need, a 3rd party app.
It would be kind of dangerous or even more annoying under certain circumstances like driving. But if you had 2 different lock options, one normal the other for the 2 button answer, that would be cool. Very cool indeed.
But it does'nt always happen, I think it's happened only twice. Usually the phone is not in my pocket or on me in a holster, because I want to keep the radiation away from my body, so it's usually on my desk or sitting in the car if I am driving. In-between those times it is on me.
I'm afraid this applies to any phone of the Candy Bar type. Happened to me quite often to answer a call while reaching for the phone (S620 and S710 ans some other Nokias). Flip phones are much better for that. You got to open the phone to answer a call and you can still check the caller on the outside display before opening it.
You're right, a third party app setting a two level answer mode would be great, although don't know if this can be done, where the core of the phone handles the answering alone preventing any developer to set up an "answering sequence". Good idea anyway, curious to check on this one.
Ka.
Thanks for the replies. I'm still optimiistic that SOMEone out there may have a solution!
Sorry can't resist - If its someone you don't want to talk to, pretend you're on ATT and drop the call
I haven't had a problem. I use this case
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?productID=576&category=5
@jamssx: lol
@timothyjok: thx for the suggestion, I've looked at that case before, but was trying to remain positive that someon may have software solution. sigh...
From http://www.shipiboconibo.com/dash/#callreject :
Disable Accidental Call Rejection
Have you ever recieved a call and as you pull your Dash out of your pocket it says 'Call rejected'? I have, and it annoys the hell out of me! I derived this hack from a hack telling how to enable this feature, but mine was enabled by default so I am going to assume the original hack was intended for the Excalibur and T-Mobile decided to enable the feature on their phones. By default (can anyone else verify this is default on the Dash?) simply touching the JOGGR strip on the Dash during an incomming call will reject the call. I hate this and here is how you can disable it!
\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\JogBar\Settings\EnableRejectCallFunc = 0
As you probably guessed, this is a binary value, setting it to 0 disables it, 1 enables it.
Hi All,
Does anyone know how to get this working on our beloved HD's? I hate the way the screen goes completely black during a call, we can't use the light sensor to tell the phone that the call has finished and it is away from your ear (so screen comes back on a la iphone), and i keep doing things during a call with my ear!!
So this seems like the ideal solution - but i can't get it to work!!
I've copied over the file to the windows folder, then soft reset. Changed the registry entry for phoneLockEnable to 1 in HKLM/Software/HTC/Phone but still no joy!
All help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
DF
hi, where you found out this software? it look's great, can you share the link to me? recall i saw some post like this, but just for diamond, i'm looking one for my hd, is there anyone have?
chanmama said:
hi, where you found out this software? it look's great, can you share the link to me? recall i saw some post like this, but just for diamond, i'm looking one for my hd, is there anyone have?
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Sorry, i don't have the cab file, i just saw the screenshot and thought 'that's what i need'!!!
Hopefully some bright spark here can help us both (and others probably).
Regards
DF
Beside this transparent canvas, where can I get the orginal canvas?
I am using a offical ROM but I don't see this function!
I hate the way the screen goes completely black during a call, we can't use the light sensor to tell the phone that the call has finished and it is away from your ear (so screen comes back on a la iphone), and i keep doing things during a call with my ear!!
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that's interesting, because my screen doesn't go blank during calls and it happens quite often that i accidently disconnect a call (i suppose because i hit a button with my ear).
so in search for i solution i found in Advanced config a tab Light sensor > Light sensor polling which i set enabled. the explanation says "uses light sensor to automatically turn screen off when the phone come near from your ear to answer a call". so this should set it like the i-phone does, right?
hence when i tested it, the screen still was on, even when i put my thumb onto the light-sensor.
is this because i don't have a stock rom (i use Duttys HD V1.9b XTREME) or is there something i can do about it.
it would be really nice to have the screen locked when i answer a call and to outomatically unlock it if i remove it from my head to use some function on the screen..
take55 said:
that's interesting, because my screen doesn't go blank during calls and it happens quite often that i accidently disconnect a call (i suppose because i hit a button with my ear).
so in search for i solution i found in Advanced config a tab Light sensor > Light sensor polling which i set enabled. the explanation says "uses light sensor to automatically turn screen off when the phone come near from your ear to answer a call". so this should set it like the i-phone does, right?
hence when i tested it, the screen still was on, even when i put my thumb onto the light-sensor.
is this because i don't have a stock rom (i use Duttys HD V1.9b XTREME) or is there something i can do about it.
it would be really nice to have the screen locked when i answer a call and to outomatically unlock it if i remove it from my head to use some function on the screen..
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Hi take55,
Yes, i'm aware of the advanced config tweak (also in HD Tweak), and as you correctly state, the screen should/will go blank on call connection (i'm running kwbr's A Touch Of HD 3.3.4 and mine doesn't, even with tweak applied!!).
Unfortunately, when the call ends and you move the phone away from your ear, the screen still stays blank????? I've read somewhere on these forums that it never will work like the iphone (not sure why, as the light sensor should recognise that we've moved the phone away from our ears).
So that is why i'm trying to get this other method to work. What i have noticed is that with the bmp copied over to the windows folder or with a cab i found by A-Math installed, my dialler locks up after every call (as if the transparent phone lock is in place) but i can't actually see it. None of the screen works and i have to soft reset. Maybe something is stopping the bmp to show on the phone....who knows.
It also might be the fact that this was designed for the Diamond (found the cab on the Diamond forums).
Just hoping some genius here might now how to sort this.
I've attached the cab file i've found, give it a try and see if you have the same issue as me.
Regards
DF
chanmama said:
hi, where you found out this software? it look's great, can you share the link to me? recall i saw some post like this, but just for diamond, i'm looking one for my hd, is there anyone have?
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Hi chanmama,
Found the cab file for you, see previous post.
Regards
DF
Datafanatic said:
What i have noticed is that with the bmp copied over to the windows folder or with a cab i found by A-Math installed, my dialler locks up after every call (as if the transparent phone lock is in place) but i can't actually see it. None of the screen works and i have to soft reset. Maybe something is stopping the bmp to show on the phone....who knows.
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It has nothing to do with the BMPs but with the registry setting that the CAB also makes. It sets HKLM\Software\HTC\Phone\PhoneLockEnable to 1, in wich case you'll have to press the power button to unock (no need to soft reset). For the BMP to work the phone/dialer software will have to support it, otherwise it just locks the phone in the usual way: black screen, power button to unlock.
Datafanatic said:
Hi chanmama,
Found the cab file for you, see previous post.
Regards
DF
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tks but your cab only for the canvas skin only, do not contain the original software (slidable canvas), anyway, tks for your help
I've also found this problem to be quite annoying during a phone call but have found some sort of way to deal with it.
Firstly my ROM isn't tweaked, its just the basic one already installed.
After a call is connected, the screen switches off. But if you need to access the screen again during a call, I just press the "Back Arrow" key, one of the four hard buttons on the bottom which brings the screen back up again.
If you press the phone button instead whilst the screen is off, the screen lights up again but it puts the call on hold.
This probably isn't the best way to deal with this, but it seems to work for me for the time being, hope this helps anyone else here.
rubbermonkey123 said:
I've also found this problem to be quite annoying during a phone call but have found some sort of way to deal with it.
Firstly my ROM isn't tweaked, its just the basic one already installed.
After a call is connected, the screen switches off. But if you need to access the screen again during a call, I just press the "Back Arrow" key, one of the four hard buttons on the bottom which brings the screen back up again.
If you press the phone button instead whilst the screen is off, the screen lights up again but it puts the call on hold.
This probably isn't the best way to deal with this, but it seems to work for me for the time being, hope this helps anyone else here.
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Useful info - I found this particularly annoying yesterday during a ouple of calls.
Also discovered Gyrator tries to turn the phone screen and was laggy - which was even more annoying!
Everyone!!!
CHECK THIS OUT - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489034
Answer to all our prayers - a screen lock which uses the g-sensor and not the light sensor.
Now, when a call is connected, holding the phone to the ear blacks the screen, but when you bring the phone down (to use the keypad or something), THE SCREEN COMES BACK ON!!!!!!!
Tried and tested on kwbr's A Touch Of HD v3.3.4 (probably the best manila2 ROM out there!)
Regards
DF