Appeal to the community - P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development

I thought a community served to share knowledge and experience, but in this last time I've seen it's a plase where to show how someone is more good than other...
WHY???
If you see the last releases you see that are all only installable, but not modifieble...
I don't think my rom is perfect, anyone could need some feature I don't need, or viceversa.
Leaving roms open, anyone could adjust the rom like he thinks...
There are peaple that doesn't want rebuild a rom and they can install a downloaded rom like is, but there is a big group of peaple that can appreciate some features in a rom and some others in another rom, why don't leave this peaple make their collage???
I hope this is not only my opinion

That's my opinion too, and that's how it should be. The problem is, I'm not the one making those ROMs, and if the creators choose to keep them closed, I may disagree but it's their work and therefore their choice.

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don't bite the hand...

hey people, having for the first time(llooooonnng holiday) had time to try different roms ,i hope without fear of contradiction tried the latest being idria,hemli & lt.cmdr.ivan.
lets rember one thing - with only standard operator support(t-mobile,orange,o2 & many others)
THIS HANDSET WOULD BE A PRETTY BRICK.
all the rom's brought forward by the very intuitive and intelluctal people deserve praise and PAYPAL donations.
but i wish to put forward a challenge & or straw poll (hence title)
1) a rom( any rom helmi,indira.jcw,lt.cmd.ivan) -as a vanilla
2) amongst this forum, feature's that work (i.e what people need/want)
3) for me that would be internet sharing ,but hey let's get the poll started
without forgetting ,without sounding sychophatic ,without the help og the above this would be pointless(thats alot of without)
Hi,
I would like to second this initiative.
I specifically want ICS to work on my unit.
Otherwise I would like to thnk everybody on this forum for keeping the Universal alive. Specifically Helmi, Ivan and Indra for the great new firmware.
Please keep up the great work.
Cheers
Ian

loking for a fully packed rom

it is not my intention to wast space or irritate people i have searche and searched 1. just to let you know i cant get the ppckitchen cause i got kicked out because of a misunderstanding with one of there (gods) 2. some of the kitchens here are cool but dont support gps and rev-a. so my question is can some one help me with this problem, am willing to donate for a custom rom or can some one help me find a fully packed rom,i have sprint service the only one i have ever found that is fully packed was nexvision's hulk rom, does anyone know of a rom like that and is available,please help, oh yeah i have searched and if you have somthing to say about searching at least tell me where to look with details instead of just telling me to do more searchin please, tha\nk you for any help just to let anyone thinking i want a free ride without out doing any work, that is not my intention i am very willing to learn and to be patient in the process i would just appreciate anyone refering me to certain info to keep in mind that i dont always understand the language and that just because there is a definition to certain terms and meaning's i dont always get the meaning so anyone giving me info please have patience with me on alot how things are explained, thank you
Personally, I use a "Clean" ROM to help with storage space and other reasons. Some ROMs have things you may not want or need, and apps are always updated, so no sense in having two of the same thing. Plus it gives you more room for customization.
pierre1321 said:
it is not my intention to wast space or irritate people i have searche and searched 1. just to let you know i cant get the ppckitchen cause i got kicked out because of a misunderstanding with one of there (gods)
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lol - misunderstanding about what?
2. some of the kitchens here are cool but dont support gps and rev-a. so my question is can some one help me with this problem, am willing to donate for a custom rom or can some one help me find a fully packed rom,i have sprint service the only one i have ever found that is fully packed was nexvision's hulk rom, does anyone know of a rom like that and is available,please help, oh yeah i have searched and if you have somthing to say about searching at least tell me where to look with details instead of just telling me to do more searchin please, tha\nk you for any help
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Nex's hulk rom is the only fully packed one that I know of. Since you've obviously found it, why are you looking for something else?
gguruusa said:
lol - misunderstanding about what?
Nex's hulk rom is the only fully packed one that I know of. Since you've obviously found it, why are you looking for something else?
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r u being rude i only ask cause u say i obviously, my post states that i am not allowed into the kitchen 1. the only link to that rom is in the kitchen 2. before i got kicked out when i tried to link to it it was dead and that is why i am looking for somthing else and 3. i stated that i was looking for help not more questions and that is not intended to be rude i just mean if you cant help me with any info why r u replying to my thread, just curious
TheChampJT said:
Personally, I use a "Clean" ROM to help with storage space and other reasons. Some ROMs have things you may not want or need, and apps are always updated, so no sense in having two of the same thing. Plus it gives you more room for customization.
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i would like to cook my own rom but i cant ever get anyone to give me details in lamens terms, im not slow its just that i see things in a physical form better than verbally or written and all i keep getting are links to the same info or when i give details on what i need help with they say that i dont tell them what i am looking for but some times they only read part of my thread or i dont know how to talk the language so i end up searching for custom roms, and i would start off with a clean one but it seems i can never remember the name of the apps or games that i want to put in them and the other thing is some people are able to pack in more stuff on there roms than others and they still run smooth and whe i add thing on a clean rom i can only get about a third or half of what they get in there roms before i run out of useable memory and to keep it running smooth
I tried cooking my own ROM, but in the end went to OMJ's ROM. I spent about 2 months trying to cook a ROM I liked and worked well. But, it is VERY time consuming, and you'll end up constantly flashing to fix something, add a tweak or 2, or add the newest package. Most of the "tutorials" for cooking can be vague, since there are far too many things involved, depending on what it is your planning to do. But, I would suggest finding one that fits you best and leaving it to the pro's. I'm not trying to say you can't do this, but the only real way to find your answers, is through simple trial & error.
well CHAMP can you lend me yer knowledge and lead me to a stable rom thats clean and maybe has touchflo and manilla2d and a good place to find the worlds biggest post for cab files so i can start my trial and error preferably with gps and rev-a,and i have heard of a mention somewhere about a manilla3d but havnt really been able to find any info on it maybe you could help even though i will continue to look myself, oh yeah a rom that still has a crap load of memory i think i saw one that had up to 160 or 170 of storage memory but cant remember where i saw it , thanks
my advice is to cook with vetvitos kitchen he has the some of the latest releases and has a simple kitchen to use that includes touchflo and manilla 2d and the thread is in this very section.
{SBR}_L3GION said:
my advice is to cook with vetvitos kitchen he has the some of the latest releases and has a simple kitchen to use that includes touchflo and manilla 2d and the thread is in this very section.
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i did try his kitchen i kept on getting lots of errors in the part after you make the selections and it starts processing what i selected but i couldn't fix all of them so i left it alone
did you try nexvisions manilla rom. its packed and is very good. I know you had an issue with him in the irc chat but his roms are good and im sure it was just a misunderstanding. here is a link to his rom thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31344
hope this helps.
Polargoat said:
did you try nexvisions manilla rom. its packed and is very good. I know you had an issue with him in the irc chat but his roms are good and im sure it was just a misunderstanding. here is a link to his rom thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31344
hope this helps.
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thanks but when i say ****d out i mean no matter what link i use the ppckitchen wont even load, wich means i am blocked unless i use a foreign computer, but thanks anyway, and yes i have posted in that thread and asked him to let me back in and there is no response at all
pierre1321 said:
r u being rude i only ask cause u say i obviously, my post states that i am not allowed into the kitchen 1. the only link to that rom is in the kitchen 2. before i got kicked out when i tried to link to it it was dead and that is why i am looking for somthing else and 3. i stated that i was looking for help not more questions and that is not intended to be rude i just mean if you cant help me with any info why r u replying to my thread, just curious
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I was trying to help you. I don't know what the problem between you and Nex is, but if you don't state what happened, I sure can't help you there.
You don't need the kitchen to flash a ROM, so your reasoning is flawed. You did not state the link you found was dead...I naturally assumed you downloaded it and were now on a quest for similar feature packed roms.
Finally, like I said, there aren't any other ROMs like Nex's Hulk ROM. You can stop looking for something so packed - you won't find anything.
pierre1321 said:
thanks but when i say ****d out i mean no matter what link i use the ppckitchen wont even load, wich means i am blocked unless i use a foreign computer
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I can't understand what you are trying to say. What do you mean when you say "no matter what link I use the ppckitchen wont even load". Use small words, go slow, and preferably use pictures.
ok im back from my vacation and have been diong som searching, can someone teach me how to make a fully packed rom and i mean packed and that will be stable and dont expect it to be super fast but atleast not slow or slugish anyone out there up to help me
LOL.
He has no idea what he is talking about. Nex ROM are just a *.nbh file.
He is trying to flash it with nothing other than the nbh file. Obviously it didnt work. LOL
Until he learn how to read what people tells him he wont get it.
gguruusa said:
I was trying to help you. I don't know what the problem between you and Nex is, but if you don't state what happened, I sure can't help you there.
You don't need the kitchen to flash a ROM, so your reasoning is flawed. You did not state the link you found was dead...I naturally assumed you downloaded it and were now on a quest for similar feature packed roms.
Finally, like I said, there aren't any other ROMs like Nex's Hulk ROM. You can stop looking for something so packed - you won't find anything.
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Honestly no one is going tot take the time to teach you how to make a ROM, you're gonna have to learn yourself through trial and error or else you need to try a ROM that someone else has made...There are plenty of these out there fully packed as well as clean with a clean ROM you can dl your own programs all you want and do the things that you would like to do to the ROM...Full ROM's are pretty packed and you can still add all the things that you would like...But ROM cooking will have o be something that you need to learn on your own by reading tutorials such as reading this :http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25529
this thread will teach you how to customize a ROM that is already built add/remove all thanks goes to " rstoyguy "
So give it a shot.
SL said:
LOL.
He has no idea what he is talking about. Nex ROM are just a *.nbh file.
He is trying to flash it with nothing other than the nbh file. Obviously it didnt work. LOL
Until he learn how to read what people tells him he wont get it.
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i have know idea what you are talking about, because of course you cant flash a .nbh file by itself so yeah why would it work, and until i learn how to read what people tell me, well excuse me i didnt realize some people were born with this knowledge right out of the womb, i on the other hand am not so lucky so when im learning somthing new i have to ask people to have time and patience with me so that i can begin to understand and then learn to take some of these steps on my own, so if you have nothing positive to give i would appreciate it if you would let me continue my studies with someone who is willing to help
hooover said:
Honestly no one is going tot take the time to teach you how to make a ROM, you're gonna have to learn yourself through trial and error or else you need to try a ROM that someone else has made...There are plenty of these out there fully packed as well as clean with a clean ROM you can dl your own programs all you want and do the things that you would like to do to the ROM...Full ROM's are pretty packed and you can still add all the things that you would like...But ROM cooking will have o be something that you need to learn on your own by reading tutorials such as reading this :http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25529
this thread will teach you how to customize a ROM that is already built add/remove all thanks goes to " rstoyguy "
So give it a shot.
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yeah i have seen that and am still learning, but i may have stated myself wrong, cause after searching and asking alot i realize that time is very precious and little, i am just looking for someone to help me with steps involved in some of these processes cause alot of the tutorials can be kind of vauge and its not just me even some of the more advanced people have found this to be true also, they will sometimes just sometime jump to certain parts without saying how to get there or mention crtain things with out being more detailed and when i try to search to find out i cant find it, so i end up asking questions that people say that are out there and to search but alot of the time cant get someone to poiunt me into the right dirction except to where tutorials are and then say ive been there and then some one who knows what they are doing will post somthing and my need for help gets lost in the thread, but thank you for at least replying with somthing positive instead of trying to make me look like a tard
I think what they are trying to say is you need to spend more time reading and learning. In the mean time I would try out OMJ's rom as it has m2d, is fairly packed and is very stable imo.. but there are many other VERY good roms out there I just happen to prefer OMJ's for what I use my ppc for.
It takes a long time to learn all this stuff, I joined here on 2/26/08 and I only have two posts.. I joined ppcgeeks about the same time and I have about 100 posts.. I wish I could contribute more and help out but my schedule doesnt allow me to get too involved unfortunately. Although in that time (almost a YEAR) Ive learned how to build a rom with the ppckitchen kitchen and a ton of other stuff that I never knew you could do with a ppc..lol
It says you just joined in september and im not bashing you in anyway but heck flash one of the roms that one of these skilled chefs made and enjoy your phone for now while you take the time to learn..
Re-read your post again and you will realiase why you are such an idiot and no wonder nex and others just ignore you. You are nothing but arrogant and stupid. People give you advise and you just run right by without reading and then complain why people dont help you at ppcgeeks because you give the same kind of attitude you just give me. People keep teaching you how to flash his rom but you just keep ignoring them and complaining why it cannot be flashed instead of just listening. Learn to be humble. Learn to read and follow instructions. 'nuff said
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i have know idea what you are talking about, because of course you cant flash a .nbh file by itself so yeah why would it work, and until i learn how to read what people tell me, well excuse me i didnt realize some people were born with this knowledge right out of the womb, i on the other hand am not so lucky so when im learning somthing new i have to ask people to have time and patience with me so that i can begin to understand and then learn to take some of these steps on my own, so if you have nothing positive to give i would appreciate it if you would let me continue my studies with someone who is willing to help
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[Q] ROMS Matrix ?

Hi Guys,
First thing, I would like to thank you all for the great work you are doing, so thank you !
Now, there is so many custom ROMs available that is a real challenge to select one.
I understand that there is 2 or 3 categories of ROMS : Sense, No-Sense, Stock, and on steroid ;-), but for the details it is quite challenging to choose one.
Would it be possible to a have a ROM matrix that would show the key features, goals, and orientation/direction/philosophy of each rom ?
thx again !
There are a few sites which list ROMs (which I, sadly, do not have the links to) but they are usually outdated and not maintained very well. Currently the best way to find the ROM that best suits you is to just take the plunge and try a few out.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...1VE9mYjVJNENnTHc&hl=fr&authkey=CJ3e6NQB#gid=3
This is what i found, but it is not really actual at the Moment.
Maybe some people want spend some time bringing it up to date.
Hi this (h t t p://db.androidspin.comandroidspin_release_matrix.asp?android_phone_ID=3&android_build_base_os=&android_developer_id=&go=go) is also a nice matrix but sometimes it isn't up to date ;-(
Maintaining these lists is difficult, they always go out of date pretty quickly.
There is an XDA wiki page for the HTC Desire which has a lot of the roms listed but it also is out of date. I reckon having it in a wiki is a nice idea as any of us can edit it and keep it updated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:HTC_Desire.png

appeal to all ROM cooks

Hello dear Rom Cooks
Its just annoying that every ROM cook use different location for (as example) the bootanimation
So i want to make an appeal, that we make a standard for some things!
For bootanimation, why we don't use simply:
System/media/bootloader
So, please, use this Thread as a meeting place to make a standard. If anyone got more Ideas, just Post it.
i gonna make an answer, where i put in the results from the "meetings"
AND:
Please don't miss understand me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27689705&postcount=5
Greetings
aivilon
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Reserved for the standards
just my opinion...but don't you think developers have enough issues to worry about when creating their roms? why add another thing to do on their list and create standards for them?
Not trying to cause an argument, but I think people who do this in their spare time shouldn't be confined to a "standard"
by the way htc's standard for boot animation is system/customize/resource.
so, that should be the standard. but I believe the user should just ask the dev what folder things are in in their forum if they cannot figure it out on their own.
kish3n said:
just my opinion...but don't you think developers have enough issues to worry about when creating their roms? why add another thing to do on their list and create standards for them?
Not trying to cause an argument, but I think people who do this in their spare time shouldn't be confined to a "standard"
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I don't want to bind them on a standard. Just think it would be easyer. I agree that they have much other problems and i don't want to critizise their work.
Seems Like a Good Idea.Why don’t we give this a try?
maybe a cook find some other things, which would be able to standardize
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by the way htc's standard for boot animation is system/customize/resource.
so, that should be the standard. but I believe the user should just ask the dev what folder things are in in their forum if they cannot figure it out on their own.
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Of course this is a possible variant. BUT:
I think every one would agree, that in a thread which is about 8000 sites, no one would read anything and find the correct path. And much people don't use the thread search bar. So with one ROM, many people would ask the same. And when it works, and we could create "a standard" for things like this, its possible to make a sticky, so everyone can go there and watch, where which datas are.
And by the way: i tried this phath wigh ARHD but the zip file (the bootanimation) don't works... i had to take a app.
There are just 2 place where you can find bootanimation.zip in HTC ROMs
/data/local/bootanimation.zip
/system/customize/resources/bootanimation.zip
So...2 places, not much I think. First place is common for custom ROMs, 2nd place is common for stock ROMs.
kish3n said:
just my opinion...but don't you think developers have enough issues to worry about when creating their roms? why add another thing to do on their list and create standards for them?
Not trying to cause an argument, but I think people who do this in their spare time shouldn't be confined to a "standard"
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+1 I would rather the Devs focus more on increasing the performance etc... on our phones as they do already rather than messing around standardising the location of bootanimations. All Devs produce different work and if they were all the same it would be pointless much like this thread is.
EDIT: Also I understand the thinking behind posting this in the Development section however a discussion like this really belongs in General
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There are just 2 place where you can find bootanimation.zip in HTC ROMs
/data/local/bootanimation.zip
/system/customize/resources/bootanimation.zip
So...2 places, not much I think. First place is common for custom ROMs, 2nd place is common for stock ROMs.
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If you previously had a HTC device and prefer running custom Sense ROMs, you would know what Mike has pointed out.
All you need do to find the bootanimation.zip is just open the ROM zip with your choice of archiver 7Zip or WinRAR and search the folders and replace it with your choice of bootanimation, that is if you wana change the animation.
As for your suggestion regarding where to place the bootanimation, why do you want to re-invent the wheel, if that is where you would prefer it, cook a ROM and put it there.
I'm happy where it is and know where to find it if i wana change it, i prefer to have my phone in a booted state, i mean c'mon how many times a day are you gona boot and reboot your phone?
dr9722 said:
standardising the location of bootanimations
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I dont think just about that!
dr9722 said:
EDIT: Also I understand the thinking behind posting this in the Development section however a discussion like this really belongs in General
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The idea to post it here was, because i reach here the devs more than in the genaral
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All Devs produce different work and if they were all the same it would be pointless much like this thread is.
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Nopa. I dont write about that all devs must make the same. a work is characterized by tweaks, gui, perfomance etc etc etc. not by the folders. so i I have to disagree with you
Moved to general, since the dev forum is not the right place for this.

[Q] Adding phone functionality to "inactive phone rom"

Hey everyone, I have a couple of questions. First off as you can see from my post count I'm a lurker. I can remove/install ROMs, the basics, but never have I tried to add/remove apps or functions to one. So I've found a ROM I love, but it was designed with inactive phones in mind, to make them into second life usable music/video players. It has no phone functionality because of this. The one I'm interested in is by frickinjerms - Ubersonic - I hope I can modify others work for my personal use. Guess that should be a question too.
Would it be ok to add in phone functionality or would it be easier to find one with that already and just remove the fluff I don't want and add what I do?
As I understand it, I can just add it back in, but I'm unsure what files go back in. Is there a resource that outlines that anywhere, or can anyone throw me a bone?
Is it ok to modify the work of others for your personal use without asking, or should you seek approval first out of proper etiquette?
I've been searching through XDA and other sites looking for some basic beginners stuff for cooking up ROMs, but have only come across limited collections. I'm toying with dsixda's Android Kitchen right now, but would love to find other resources. So any pointers to learning resources would be great too.
Thanks!
For the last one, I personally believe that its not necessary to ask before modifying a rom thats for your personal use because only you will know about it anyway, and people do it all the time
You only need to ask for permission if you're reposting your personal version of someone elses rom
Sent from my PG06100
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For the last one, I personally believe that its not necessary to ask before modifying a rom thats for your personal use because only you will know about it anyway, and people do it all the time
You only need to ask for permission if you're reposting your personal version of someone elses rom
Sent from my PG06100
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I figured that was likely the case I just wanted to clarify it for myself. I know people put in a lot of work on some of their ROMs and don't want to step on toes.
Thanks for the response.
You know you could use a rom that does have phone functionality. Just throwing that out there.
PlatinumPenguin said:
You know you could use a rom that does have phone functionality. Just throwing that out there.
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Whats the point of flavors if you're forced to pick the one you don't like? Just throwing that out there.
I don't think my questions were unreasonable either. I'm not asking for someone to build me something, I'm asking for the fishing pole, not the fish.

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