I absolutely love my 8525, but have quickly grown tired of the lackluster and non-finger friendly user interface of Windows Mobile 6. What options do I have? I'm not extremely technically savvy, especially for Windows CE; I do know how to install .cab files, though, which is of course the easiest way to install plug-ins to the phone without a complete ROM change (I'm not completely opposed to this), to my knowledge (as limited as it may be). Can anyone help me find a different user interface or post some screenshots of some available ones that are pretty easy to install? I appreciate the help!
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I currently have a diamond and am looking for a new h/s.
the important things for me are fast surfing, simple enough interface with the ability to modify the themes etc (sliders, curtains etc), fast switching between apps and video capabilities.
can anyone explain in laymans terms the benefits, advantages and clear disadvantages between android - windows 6.(whatever) - and winmo.
im after either the hero, tgo1, diamond 2.
what could people suggest?
Ps - im not too interested in flashing and putting cooked/kitchen roms or whatever else onto them. Purely out of the box set-up
Linux has the advantage of being reasonable easy to program for is “Open Source” so no licence to pay for and normally cheaper for the manufacturers to use and has quite a large following that likes to create applications/modifications for the phone.
Windows is controlled my the evil corporation Microsoft and wants your soul before you can use it….or at least some seem to think so, windows mobile has more flavours (ROMS) available on this site than Microsoft could produce for a very long time, devices never meant to run latter versions of windows mobile are now quite happily running newer software thanks to various cooks who like to improve or tweak the standard fair to produce something they think is better…some are, some aren’t.
From what you’re asking you seem to want to know what’s best, sadly the simple answer is both
Its more a user choice if you have certain software you want to run then check the handset can run both if not pick the one that can, there is no clear leader at the moment and as your not interested in upgrading your phone to a newer flavour your stuck with whatever the provider thinks is good.
Simple answer then look at what you like, check it runs what you want, purchase the phone best of luck
Fair point indeed.
looks like ill be hunting through reviews for a little while yet.
thanks for the reply
Hello all. I am going to pick up an Omnia from a friend of mine in exchange for my current phone. This is not my first experience with winmo but I have not had any in-dept time with it either. I am going to need someone to help me out, as I am not familiar with all the basic things that one needs to do in order to get the final product I am looking for.
Here is what I'd like to do to the phone:
Run Manila 2D (essentially make my phone an HTC clone)
Run some kind of screen lock slider, preferably identical to that of the iphone
Install a new keyboard (spb or resco)
My first question before I get into anything else is -- Is this possible to run all of these modifications, or when running Manila is it impossible to run anything else? I have a 2 GB storage card, and the knowhow to install cab files and such. Still details would be much appreciated.
Concerning Manila 2d -- I have read that once installed there is still a hefty amount of tweaking to do, is this still the case, or has most of the tweaking been handled in the newest version? (nuances I've read such as threaded messages being recognized as "read" etc) Also does one need anything preinstalled in order to run it properly? What other tweaks will I need in order to take full advantage of Manila 2d? (commanager etc)
I understand there are stickys and previous information for this sort of topic, but most are written for those with a little more in-depth knowledge of winmo and applications thereof. (for example I do not know what commmanager is etc) So I need someone to just give me a brief rundown as well as cover all of the basic must haves for the Omnia
Thank you all I understand this may be tedious but I appreciate any and all help.
Hi everyone.
I'm a beginner in Pocket PC / Smartphone development, though i have some (amateur) experience in creating PC apps (Delphi, C++)
So i just need a "kick start" to begin working on PPC apps. Like, a code to make an app that draws a window with "Hello world" and an OK button in it, you know
I've downloaded the SharpDevelop environment, because it looked like the best freeware alternative to Visual Studio. However, i have to admit i've downloaded the 1.x version, as i have a very old computer. But if it's critical, i can try and install 2.x or 3.x.
Anyway, the question is: how do i create a project for Pocket PC / Smartphone? All i see are options to create PC projects... But i saw SharpDevelop in the D&H wiki, so there must be a way to use it for it, right?
Big thanks in advance for answering my very silly question
upd: also, do i need any special device emulators to run the project, or... w/e
kiruch said:
Hi everyone.
I'm a beginner in Pocket PC / Smartphone development, though i have some (amateur) experience in creating PC apps (Delphi, C++)
So i just need a "kick start" to begin working on PPC apps. Like, a code to make an app that draws a window with "Hello world" and an OK button in it, you know
I've downloaded the SharpDevelop environment, because it looked like the best freeware alternative to Visual Studio. However, i have to admit i've downloaded the 1.x version, as i have a very old computer. But if it's critical, i can try and install 2.x or 3.x.
Anyway, the question is: how do i create a project for Pocket PC / Smartphone? All i see are options to create PC projects... But i saw SharpDevelop in the D&H wiki, so there must be a way to use it for it, right?
Big thanks in advance for answering my very silly question
upd: also, do i need any special device emulators to run the project, or... w/e
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It's not a silly question mate - it's a perfectly good one. Unfortunately, I don't think that you can use SharpDevelop to create .Net CF applications easily. The Windows Mobile SDKs come with plenty emulators (to answer your latter question), but they're Microsoft, and therefore they're for Visual Studio. It's really easy with Visual Studio - you just install the SDK and select a smart device as your target when you create a new project. It just works.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=20686a1d-97a8-4f80-bc6a-ae010e085a6e
However, as far as I'm aware, you can't use VS Express (the free version), as the SDKs only work with full versions of VS. If you can get hold of that, I'd recommend it.
I do remember seeing a website talking about using SharpDevelop with the .Net CF, but it was sketchy and didn't promise it would work. Maybe google a little more to make sure about that, but I'd strongly recommend a copy of VS Professional, if that's an option.
If you are a student, you can get VS2008 for free (www.dreamspark.com)
If you are not a student, you can get VS2010 RC for free (works for another 100 days from today).
I use Sharp Develop to program in C# for my phone, and it works fine.
However, it's possible that smartphones are only supported in version 2 and 3 (I never tried version 1).
In the newer versions, when you start a new solution, there will be an option to start a Compact Framework Project.
Some code that is automatically added when adding controls to your form, will throw errors and will have to be deleted. There is more information on that in the forums at Sharpdevelop.
Good luck!
It depends on what u want to program in. .net c# c++ ect. Tho if i were u i would try and get VS. If your going to do c++ i can provide some examples, but not for anything else xD. GL.
While looking in the /windows directory of my phone i noticed a file for user profiles. This got me thinking that it may be possible to create users on a winmo device and switch them on the fly. This could prove useful for use with something like the redfly system to set a ui up for that and a ui for normal phone use so the phone becomes not only a phone but your netbook as well - with ui's tailored to the different uses. Could this be done?
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Was thinking this might be possible with second today and a few mortscripts but st is showing its age and more and more phones are not compatible. any ideas?
Windows Mobile does not support users. There is only one user, which represents current environment, we can not change this.
Thank you for your reply.
Guess im stuck using second today.
I want to develop simple apps for Windows Mobile. I read that I can use:
---Compact Framemork. (I downloaded Sharp Develop, it is free. It also exist a program from Resco that speedup the development with C.F.)
--- C or C++ or C# (I don't know if WinMo understand these...)
---Visual Basic (is difficult and Visual Studio isn't free, but I found another program that allows to develop more simple)
---Mortscript (I think is the most simple)
---Which is the best and the most simple language?
---Where can I read or download tutorials?
---I can not develop simple apps with images and sounds yet.
Please Help!
I want to develop
-a lock screen
-an app that turn on and turn off the leds of my device
-an app that change registry values (without softreset the device)
-an app that can copy, cut and delete files
-a Soft Imput Panel (a virtual keyboard)
I haven't done windows mobile development in quite some time, so things may have changed a bit. But to help you out better, it would be good to know what version of windows you intend to develop for (I assume Windows Phone 7?) as well as any specific devices you may want to concentrate on, and what experience you already have with coding.
MortScript is probably a good starting point, though if you want to get some real functionality going, you should look at C#.net CF. Take a look at this MSDN resource: LINK. It should be good for getting started.
I think that for modifying the registry, working with LEDs, and for the software keyboard you may need to use C++ ... though I can be mistaken. I'm not sure how Microsoft has worked out libraries and privileges in WP7.
Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
I haven't done windows mobile development in quite some time, so things may have changed a bit. But to help you out better, it would be good to know what version of windows you intend to develop for (I assume Windows Phone 7?) as well as any specific devices you may want to concentrate on, and what experience you already have with coding.
MortScript is probably a good starting point, though if you want to get some real functionality going, you should look at C#.net CF. Take a look at this MSDN resource: LINK. It should be good for getting started.
I think that for modifying the registry, working with LEDs, and for the software keyboard you may need to use C++ ... though I can be mistaken. I'm not sure how Microsoft has worked out libraries and privileges in WP7.
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Thanks CycloneZephyrxz7.
I want to develop for Windows Mobile 6.X for devices with WVGA resolution.
But with Mortscript I can do less things? Because I can only write scripts.
Do you know how is written a simple app like "ClearTemp"?
I wait other replies from Devolpers and people that used these languages...