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Extra memory

In the photo of the Universal it shows two empty memory sockets.
I've heard a rumour that HTC (or SPV in the UK) will slap in the extra memory for a fee - does anyone know if this is correct or how easy it is to do oneself?

It is not recommended to do it yourself! It requires special tools, practice and knowledge.

It woudl be great to be able to have internal memory expansion! I'm sure that haveing some extra MB woudl help my Exec fromslowing down all the time!

i had my vpa iv at a german upgrade company. what they told me was that the 2 slots are not usable for memory expansion (but that does not mean this is correct..lol) and they were actually unable to unsolder/remove the original chip. (luckily they tried at a defective device, so they did not touch mine).
and asukal has reported here that his device was - hardware wise - successfully upgraded in hong kong by exchanging the chip from 64 to 128, but the device will still only recognize 64...so at least the device works, but the upgrade is not usable, and so far no one has found a solution to make it usable.

AndyME is right - go to Asukal's site - he had posted the photos of Ram being upgraded - but was not able to use it. But that was 6 months back - and If I remember - Buzz had not relased the utility to extract and create your own Rom.
Inabilty to recognize new ROM was due to sw hardcoded to "see" only x amount of ROM. If you have the time - you can hack it to see x+y ROM - after you have SMT soldered the ROM chips.

Does SDHC work after WM6 update?

Hi guys,
I need to get a bigger microsd card, but i would very much like to buy (and use) the new sandisk 4gb micro SDHC. I read in another thread that it might work after WM6 upgrade...
i've also read this press release stating that new drivers are available also for the omap850...
Can someone confirm wether or not a 4gb micro SDHC works after the WM6 upgrade?
thanks!

no, wont work. there is different sd-reader HW. You are asking questions like if i can play DVDs on my CDplayer after firmware upgrade. NO IT WONT.

phsnake said:
no, wont work. there is different sd-reader HW. You are asking questions like if i can play DVDs on my CDplayer after firmware upgrade. NO IT WONT.
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I don't think you've read the pages i linked to. The first is a thread here on xda-dev. where someone tells us that the upgrade to WM6 brought sdhc to the trinity... so that would tell us it is not a hardware thing.
the second link tells us about a softwarestack to bring sdhc to (among others) Omap850 ... so that's why i would like to know if someone that has actual hands on experience with the combination WM6 & sdhc cards could tell us if it works, instead of someone just bloating without looking.

geezer78 said:
so that would tell us it is not a hardware thing.
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Regarding Trinity: The Software upgrade also brought GPS to Trinity. So GPS is only a software thing??
I guess Trinity has already SDHC compatible HW chip inside, just the SDHC drivers were missing.

2esackbauer
Well, and why do you think Artemis has no SDHC compatible chip inside? Are you an insider? Recall please,
HTC has not ever declared the fact that Trinity has got SDHC compatible chip inside, either. Moreover, Trinity can not work yet with SDHC cards running officially issued ROMs installed.

as far as i understand, they are speaking about drivers for CPU beccause as i know OMAP, Marvele.... are CPU's. So it means that those drivers will be able to communicate with CPUs mentioned in that article and SDHC hw. Still we are on the same point, if U have cd player it wont read DVDs. Other thing is if Trinity has SDHC hw. but i dont believe so. It will be unreasonable expensive for htc to built it. You can argue that Ericcsson T10 and T18 were the same except for active flip and vibrations, but the reasson then, was in amount t10 and t18 sold(or expected) and price of changing or making another line. I could believe it in case that htc already presented Arte lookalike with SDHC supp. but in this case i simply dont. BTW as i remember, Trinity was presented in betas with GPS, and when it was launched it was widely known that it has GPS chip+antena, but they launch it without drivers because there were some troubles with comm between drivers and chip and OS, and it will be too expensive to delay launch of trinity even if it was w/o GPS
esackbauer: in this case was GPS only SW prob. (btw i like beer too)
nemo8: do you think that if you can enable SDHC only by new drivers, here will be numbers of those drivers in beta versions for downld?With 10-50%functionality? For ex. at least using those drvrs u would be able to read directory tree? i believe that yes.
HTC has not ever declared the fact that Trinity has got SDHC compatible chip inside, either. - i dont have trinity but can U give me link where u found out that it has SDHC hw? DOes it have SDHC supp on cooked ROMS?

From wikipedia:
A new SD format, SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity), allows capacities in excess of 2GB (4GB to 32GB)[10]. SDHC uses the FAT32 file system which supports the higher capacity instead of FAT16[11]. It uses the same form factor as SD, but the SD 2.0 standard in SDHC uses a different memory addressing method (sector addressing vs byte addressing[12]). SDHC cards only work in SDHC compatible devices, but standard SD cards work in both SD and SDHC devices. The SDHC trademark is licensed to ensure compatibility.[13]
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All changes are in logical access. According to this, driver change could allow to use SDHC card in devices.

DOes it have SDHC supp on cooked ROMS?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it does have SDHC support on WM6 ROMs cooked by two talented ROM-creators, whoose nick-names are mun and lvsw. I have seen it with my own eyes(it worked successfully with 4G miniSDHC). And therefore I hope p3300 also would be able to support this card format running WM6 OS. The new driver might have been included into officially issued WM6 ROM. We just need someone to check that.

nemo8 said:
DOes it have SDHC supp on cooked ROMS?
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Yes, it does have SDHC support on WM6 ROMs cooked by two talented ROM-creators, whoose nick-names are mun and lvsw. I have seen it with my own eyes(it worked successfully with 4G miniSDHC). And therefore I hope p3300 also would be able to support this card format running WM6 OS. The new driver might have been included into officially issued WM6 ROM. We just need someone to check that.[/QUOTE]
Marvellous! In that case I would have to try it out on my XDA Orbit then. Just waiting for the 4GB SDHC to arrive. FIngers crossed.

OK then i appologise, it will be perfect to have sdhc supp on artemis (if u check size of W-Euro map for tomtom - some 850mb) it will be marvelous. I never heard of making sd devices working with sdhc, but if you've seen trinity working with SDHC i simply believu You. btw i think trinit was released before arte(month or two) so there is a chance to have same sd hw. Sorry again, that i didnt believe it.

mavericke said:
Marvellous! In that case I would have to try it out on my XDA Orbit then. Just waiting for the 4GB SDHC to arrive. FIngers crossed.
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Excellent! I am Really looking forward to your experiences!

mavericke said:
Just waiting for the 4GB SDHC to arrive. FIngers crossed.
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Any Luck Yet?

alright gutys got wm6 running. went into my local o2 store and tried one of the sandisk 4gb. DOES NOT WORK!! the only dam phone they work with without any modding is the n95!!!

coz83_2000 said:
alright gutys got wm6 running. went into my local o2 store and tried one of the sandisk 4gb. DOES NOT WORK!! the only dam phone they work with without any modding is the n95!!!
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Maybe we need some (cooked) drivers? i believe that was necessery for the p3600 as well??
thanks for giving it a try though!

Has anyone tried the official HTC ROM and tried using the 4GB MicroSDHC card?

i ve got the XDA orbit with the HTC WM6 ROM installed and the 4 gig SDHC CARD DOESNT WORK
;(

That friggin sucks!

Just find this driver : SDIO Hx version 1.1
Compatible omap850 on wm5 and wm6

That driver does what exactly? Has it been tested?

jontymisra said:
That driver does what exactly? Has it been tested?
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"BSQUARE announced the availability of SDIO Hx version 1.1, the newest release of its ultra high-performance software stack for Windows Mobile and Windows® CE devices. Version 1.1 features support for next-generation high-capacity memory cards. SDIO Hx version 1.1 is the only software stack with both Windows Mobile and Windows CE support for the new Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) standard defining high-performance memory cards from above 2 GB to 32 GB."
more information here
Thx for info geezer78

How does the P3600i compare to P3600? More reliable?

I was on the fence about buying the 3600 when I read of many people having problems with the screens going out, system slowing down when touching the screen, and the metal peeling, slow performance, ect. I didn't realize that there was a new one, 3600i. Has anyone had any similar issues with it? How is it compared to the 3600 as far as reliability? I believe this would be my perfect device if it just supported SDHC.

shawndh said:
I was on the fence about buying the 3600 when I read of many people having problems with the screens going out, system slowing down when touching the screen, and the metal peeling, slow performance, ect. I didn't realize that there was a new one, 3600i. Has anyone had any similar issues with it? How is it compared to the 3600 as far as reliability? I believe this would be my perfect device if it just supported SDHC.
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The P3600i does support SDHC, at least to 4Gb. Can't test higher capacity mini-SDHC cards yet, not available here.
Oh, BTW, the Quick Fix GPS cab file does work, despite the "placebo" sceptics. Tested exhaustively now for 4 weeks. It downloads ephemeris data from http://www.htcusainc.com/clm as packedEphemeris.ee for NMEA mode. This is exactly, precisely, the same data file for SirfIII GPS in NMEA mode.
TTFF is now 30-60 seconds. Before, 5-10 mins, about which I had justifiable criticism.
Regional setting HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\region
needs to be correct. I'm using AU for obvious reasons.
The P3600i is now in my view as close to perfection as I may wish.

ROM and RAM higher than 3600,so I think the speed will be higher and stable when run large program.for example,Map guide,etc.

Ian,
I am surprised to ear that P3600 support SDHC 4Go because i bought mine 2 weeks ago and before buying a mini SD i put the question to HTC and got this answer:
Dear Sir,
Unfortunately the HTC P3600 does not support the mini-SDHC format cards, only standard mini-SD. The maximum size you are able to use in the device is 2GB.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
So i was just prepared to buy a 2GB mini SD, can you confirm that a 4GB SDHC works on a long term basis?
About quickGPS do we have to launch it only every 7 days and nothing else than starting normaly our GPS software (tomtom)? I tried qGPS but i do not see any difference in the fixing time after starting tomtom.

My p3600 Italian version supports SDHC. I'm using a 4GB right now.

8Gb sdhc
Hi!
I using 8Gb micro sdhc card with minisd adapter, and it's work in my p3600.

frenchflyer said:
Ian,
I am surprised to ear that P3600 support SDHC 4Go because i bought mine 2 weeks ago and before buying a mini SD i put the question to HTC and got this answer:
Dear Sir,
Unfortunately the HTC P3600 does not support the mini-SDHC format cards, only standard mini-SD. The maximum size you are able to use in the device is 2GB.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
So i was just prepared to buy a 2GB mini SD, can you confirm that a 4GB SDHC works on a long term basis?
About quickGPS do we have to launch it only every 7 days and nothing else than starting normaly our GPS software (tomtom)? I tried qGPS but i do not see any difference in the fixing time after starting tomtom.
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There is the P3600 according to HTC and the P3600 according to XDA-Developers.
The P3600 according to HTC: WM5, no SDHC, and 4GB-Mini-SD (without HC) is not really a standard so nobody will assure compatibility.
The P3600 according to XDA: WM6, SDHC-compatible due to a new driver.
Beware: There are a lot of different flavours of WM6, as they are built by different persons, not directly by HTC. Their reliability is very different, read the threads to judge whether a built is more shiny, more stable or both.
QuickGPS does not work on the P3600, the standard rule is valid: Don't move until you get a fix. You might save up to 10 minutes.
Have fun!

upgrade toshiba E350 to WM5

hello it's possible to upgrade toshiba E350 to WM5
Thanks a lot !

I was just given one of these also, unfortunately, toshiba only graced this device with 16MB of ROM. I don't belive it's possible to fit WM2003SE or higher on that little ROM.
I don't mind the lack of wm5 anyway, since no bluetooth, no wifi, no phone, and no SDHC limits what it can be used for. It does do what I want it for though (I have a 30GB ipod HDD, and plan to use the usbhost function of the device to make a media player )
If you find anything though, please post here...

Dell XPS 10 10.1" Windows RT Tablet w/ KB Dock (refurb) - (deal dead)

Edit: Looks like deal is dead. Sorry for the fast pull. Deal was still alive when first posted.
Spring clearance is under way for last year's models. Original pricing was $680 for 32GB, $780 for 64GB. Despite the refurb designation, these are likely to be NOS (new old stock). Don't forget to apply the discount code.
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/942...-w-keyboard-dock-refurbished-64gb-290-or-32gb
* Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 1.4GHz CPU
* 2GB RAM
* 32GB or 64GB Internal Memory
* 10.1" 1366x768 Display w/ 2MP Front & 5MP Rear Cameras
* Intel HD Graphics 4000
* Dell Wireless 1704 802.11 b/g/n
* 2-Cell Lithium Ion Battery
* Windows RT OS

e.mote said:
Edit: Looks like deal is dead. Sorry for the fast pull. Deal was still alive when first posted.
Spring clearance is under way for last year's models. Original pricing was $680 for 32GB, $780 for 64GB. Despite the refurb designation, these are likely to be NOS (new old stock). Don't forget to apply the discount code.
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/942...-w-keyboard-dock-refurbished-64gb-290-or-32gb
* Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 1.4GHz CPU
* 2GB RAM
* 32GB or 64GB Internal Memory
* 10.1" 1366x768 Display w/ 2MP Front & 5MP Rear Cameras
* Intel HD Graphics 4000
* Dell Wireless 1704 802.11 b/g/n
* 2-Cell Lithium Ion Battery
* Windows RT OS
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Just picked up a 32GB XPS 10 for $249.99 (+ $6.35 S&H) from TigerDirect at Buy.com. In addition, this weekend buy.com is offering 20% back (Rakuten points "MEMORIAL" code) on a future purchase. Since I purchase often from Buy.com that's like getting the device for less than $200!
Update: I just checked and it looks like only the 64GB devices remain (for $299).

I think there is a typo on the intel graphics lol hd 4000 on a arm device?

kitzuki said:
I think there is a typo on the intel graphics lol hd 4000 on a arm device?
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Yes. S4 has adreno graphics.
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