Hi,
How to extend memory product?
This product have 128 mb of RAM and 64 mb of RAM in technical fact sheet but only 37.63 mb for storage and 48.02 for program in use
Where is the memory missing?
Thank
Every Touch Pro2 spec sheet I see says this thing has 288MB Program RAM.
My settings say I have 183.58MB program RAM.
Can anyone verify? How can I be for sure?
Nevermind I found it.
288 RAM Size
...104.42 MB OS Program Memory
I just recently got my TP2 in the mail yesterday am I'm new to everything especially window mobile phones. It says that the TP2 has 512 MB ROM and 288 MB RAM but when I check my memory settings it says:
Storage:
Total 285.44MB
In use:52.77MB
Free:232.67MB
Program
Total:188.21MB
In use 89.37MB
Free:98.84
Someone told me that this is right and that the rest of the memory was hidden memory can someone confirm that for me? Thanks!
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That is correct
The important is the free RAM you have and that will depend in what ROM are you using, as some of them take a lot of RAM and some others leaveyou with more space.
To give you an idea, I´m running Energy ROM and I have free RAM of 60-80Mb
and before I had a clean ROM with no manila and I got 90-110Mb free.
Hope it helped,
And don't forget to vote!
Yeah, quite a lot of that memory is part of the baseband (so it can't be used as regular RAM), a lot more is part of the pagepool (a program memory cache), some by the radio stack, some by the frame buffer and some by the XIP (kernel), so that 288MB of RAM turns out to be much less for practical uses. If you're interested in learning more about how RAM is used in Windows Mobile, this MSDN article helps explain things a bit.
In Settings/Taskmanager the Program memory shows 120.14 MB in use with 62.8 free. But when I change the view to Process memory it only totals 45 MB in use.
What don't I understand? Where is the missing memory?
One time I checked the memory and it showed 100.5 free??
Anybody know?
Hello. I am considering to buy Pixel 6 Pro but unfortunately in my country only the model with 128 GB storage is available. Can somebody with this phone please check how much space is occupied by the OS and default apps and how much is left for user programs and files?
My Pixel 6 Pro says
System: 9,8 GB
Keep in mind though, that Googles own "Apps" come on top of that.
I'll dive into that and give you a few numbers (at least from my phone) of the stock apps (keep in mind that I might have enabled settings/have data that are not stock)
1. Android System Intelligence uses 3.1 GB
2. Google: 1.3 GB
3. Google Play Service: 700 MB
4. Speech Services by Google: 700 MB
5. Photos: 500 MB
6. Camera: 430 MB
7. Pixel Tips: 330 MB
8. GBoard: 330 MB
9. Maps: 210 MB
10. Youtube: 200 MB
11. Phone: 200 MB
12. GMail: 160 MB
13. Recorder: 144 MB
14. Docs: 140 MB
15. Android Accessibility Suite: 120 MB
16. Translate: 80 MB
17. Chrome: 80 MB
18. Google Play Store: 75 MB
19. DUO: 70 MB
20. Android System Webview: 58 MB
21. Pixel Live Wallpaper: 55 MB
22. Google Play Services for AR: 55 MB (don't even know why they are still there, I thought Google killed AR)
23. Drive: 55 MB
24. Android Auto: 55 MB
25. Calendar: 44 MB
26. Voice Access: 42 MB
27. Google Fit: 41 MB
28. Google News: 40 MB
29. Google Pay: 38 MB
30. Google Play Movies & TV: 37,5 MB
31. Googles VR Services: 36 MB (what are they still doing here? o.o)
32. Passes: 31 MB
33. Personal Safety: 31 MB
34. Private Compute Services: 24 MB
35. Keep Notes: 23 MB
36. Files by Google: 22 MB
37. Pixel Buds: 20 MB (I don't even have Pixel Buds...)
38. Contacts: 19 MB
39. Google Support Services: 18 MB
40. Live Transcribe: 17,5 MB
41. Settings Services: 17,5 MB
42. Pixel Launcher: 15,5 MB (did not expect this to be that lightweight)
43. Google Play Protect Service: 15 MB
44. Clock: 14,5 MB
45. Pixel Stand: 13 MB
46. Digital Wellbeing: 13 MB
47. Security HUB: 12,5 MB
48. Device Policy: 12 MB
49. Android Setup: 10,5 MB
50. Carrier Services: 10,5 MB
51. Device Health Services: 10 MB
52. Google Connectivity Services: 7,5 MB
53. Cloud Print: 6 MB
54. Sounds: 6 MB
55. Find my Device: 5 MB
56. Calculator: 5 MB
57. Files: 340 kB
58. Pixel Ambient Services: 305 kB
59. Settings: 260 kB
60. Wireless emergency alerts: 135kB
61. MotionSenseBridge: 130 kB
62. SIM Toolkit: 66 kB
63. Sound Aplifier: 0B (huh?)
Mh, I guess that's also a list of Googles "Bloatware" - I think you can sum the numbers together yourself, enough done on my part!
In real life. 128 GB means approximately 118 GB of file size available. Take away 10 GB system and another 6-8 from "bloat" and in the end you will have about 100 GB of available storage.
Thank you very much for fast response and detailed information. It turns out that android OS and google apps together occupy around 20 GB of space so even the 128 GB version should easily give more than 100 GB for the user which is very good.
neptun2 said:
Thank you very much for fast response and detailed information. It turns out that android OS and google apps together occupy around 20 GB of space so even the 128 GB version should easily give more than 100 GB for the user which is very good.
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You're welcome.
Don't forget that "128 GB" does not mean actually useable 128 GB of file size.
128 GB means that you have about ~ 119 GB of storage available, AFTER that the System files & Google Apps will take their tolls.
For reference:
"In the world of hard disk and SD makers, 1 KB = 1000 bytes (not 1024). So a 128 GB card is 128,000,000,000 bytes.
The computer measures 1 KB = 1024 bytes. So when the card is inserted into the slot, the computer will show the size as: 128,000,000,000/(1024 * 1024 * 1024) or 119.21 GB.
The actual usable space is further reduced by the space allocated by the file allocation table (FAT) and the FAT used while formatting:
NTFS has a block size of 4092 byte. This means that even if you create/store a file of just 1 byte, it will occupy one block or 4092 bytes. The size taken on disc will be multiples of block size
FAT32 is the most common format and portable too. The block size varies by SD card size. For a 128 GB card, it is 32 KB. Apply the same logic here.
exFAT block size also varies as per card/disk size. It is 128 KB for the card of 128 GB but it supports larger disks."
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-> https://www.quora.com/How-much-usable-space-is-available-in-a-128GB-memory-card
Of course. My idea was to have rough estimate how much space is left for user files and apps. I don't care if free space is 102 or 98 GB for example but if it was let's say 60 GB it will be quite a difference. For reference on my oneplus 7 only the system takes 18 GB so pixel definitely looks cleaner than that. I was wondering if i should wait for the 256 GB model to be available but looking at this data most probably i will proceed with the 128 GB model which is currently available in my country.