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MS Voice Command 1.6 BT over headset with latest wm6 roms.

Some of you may have noticed that with the newest release of LVSW ROM 3.30.2.1 (2007-05-19) that the old hacks for MS VC do not work getting voice command over bt headset.
LVSW's ROM comes with Cyberon VC but the nice thing is it can be removed via remove programs so remove it and then unpair your headset and turn on/off the phone to start fresh.
1.) Install MS VC 1.6
2.) Install attached .cab
3.) In programs launch BT Voice Command Config
4.) Check enable
5.) Click save
6.) Click Exit
7.) Turn off phone
8.) Turn on phone
9.) Pair bt headset
I take no credit for this program it was done by XCSdM and later modified by ZaJules..
This works perfect for me no other tricks or reg edits zilch, nada, nothing. You might want to set voice command to button 5 though.
I'm using Elfs variant of the newest LVSW and it doesn't come with Cyberon VC and it works perfect for me.

So has it worked for anyone?

I just tried it but it doesn't work for me.

Can you give me some more info like what ROM are you using etc? What headset?

It worked for me but only after doing some changes in the registry. The path in OEM/Voicecommand was directed towards "BTVCBasic" and i had to redirect it to BTVoiceCommand. Then, it worked.

GermanGuy said:
It worked for me but only after doing some changes in the registry. The path in OEM/Voicecommand was directed towards "BTVCBasic" and i had to redirect it to BTVoiceCommand. Then, it worked.
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Thats what was suppose to be fixed..Hmm I don't have a cab editor program so I'll have to figure something out..

MrDSL said:
Thats what was suppose to be fixed..Hmm I don't have a cab editor program so I'll have to figure something out..
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Thank you for your help and the cab, though. I am a happy camper now with MS VC initiation working through my Bluetooth headset

Works!
VC1.6 now works thru the BT (Jawbone). Only notifications still come through the TyTN's speaker.
THANKS!

I just installed wince on a friend computer since my trial is up and checked the .cab I posted and the registry inside does set it to BTVoiceCommand.exe
So the only thing I can think of is maybe someone used the old version. I dunno but it should be correct..

ryanblace said:
VC1.6 now works thru the BT (Jawbone). Only notifications still come through the TyTN's speaker.
THANKS!
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The notifications have never worked and its a known problem with htc and ms so who knows if a fix will ever be released..
I changed the file name in case others were using a old one or something.

Trying to get it to work on a plantronics headset and it does not work.
Changed path to point to BTVoicecommand.exe so now it does launch the program, but on the handset, not on the headset...

ygeller said:
Trying to get it to work on a plantronics headset and it does not work.
Changed path to point to BTVoicecommand.exe so now it does launch the program, but on the handset, not on the headset...
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Delete pairing, SR, re-pair and try again. Sometimes that fixes it.

Also note that this is only for LVSW ROM 3.30.2.1 (2007-05-19)..

GermanGuy said:
It worked for me but only after doing some changes in the registry. The path in OEM/Voicecommand was directed towards "BTVCBasic" and i had to redirect it to BTVoiceCommand. Then, it worked.
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I am also a happy camper. I had to make the same registry changes.

I got MS Voice command to work but was realy buggy on my Wizard...I installed Voice Commander over it and works so much better.

MrDSL said:
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1.) Install MS VC 1.6
2.) Install attached .cab
3.) In programs launch BT Voice Command Config
4.) Check enable
5.) Click save
6.) Click Exit
7.) Turn off phone
8.) Turn on phone
9.) Pair bt headset
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For me works half & half...
Half to the bt and half to the speaker phone...

MrDSL said:
1.) Install MS VC 1.6
2.) Install attached .cab
3.) In programs launch BT Voice Command Config
4.) Check enable
5.) Click save
6.) Click Exit
7.) Turn off phone
8.) Turn on phone
9.) Pair bt headset
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Yup worked for me. But then it worked for me right out of the packet... but then started doing the I'm gonna ignore your BT headset thingy. This fixed it, pretty much, obviously no notifications , and I still can't persuade the button on my Motorola S9's to launch M$ VC (jus' dials last number). But otherwise, thanks.
BTW
If anyone knows how to get the phone buttom on my S9 headset to launch M$ VC then I'd be very grateful... having to press button 5 atm.

The only ROM I can get this to work on currently is Black Satin on my BT8010..
Schaps latest ROM is a no go :-(

This is working for me with the registry change to btvoicecommand.exe. But I have a strange problem (no, not THAT problem...): the first time I use VC from my bluetooth HF it works fine. If I use it again soon after that (to dial someone else, etc.), it takes 30 seconds to a minute to prompt me for the command. To get it to respond properly again, I have to soft reset, but it still only prompts me quickly once before hanging again.
I'm running Black Satin and VC 160.4622.0.

Any news on BT Notifications?
VC 1.6 on vp3g works fine over BT for me with the above steps, except the known issue with notifications over BT. Has anyone heard any news that a fix has been found for the BT notifications issue? I really hate not having them.

cyberon voice speed dial

can anyone post cab for my tp2? thank you

I would like to have this CAB too, missing voicedailing on my TP2

I try this , it work well on mic of phone, but it don't work on BT activate.
CVSD for WM6 v1 2 build 61226 1 cab
http://www.filestube.com/bbd28aaa9252901403ea/details.html

How come the bluetooth does not work? is it due to a setting of the phone, or just not possible? because I installed the voice dailer and it works, however when I try to start the voice dailing with my BT headset it does notting. I have to manually call someone. On the diamond, which I had before this one, this worked flawlessly.
So does anyone know anything about this, or should I use a different tool to use voice dialing with my BT headset?

flux20 said:
How come the bluetooth does not work? is it due to a setting of the phone, or just not possible? because I installed the voice dailer and it works, however when I try to start the voice dailing with my BT headset it does notting. I have to manually call someone. On the diamond, which I had before this one, this worked flawlessly.
So does anyone know anything about this, or should I use a different tool to use voice dialing with my BT headset?
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yes, I need to know too.

spend a whole day in cyberspace to solve this problem...this is what worked on my Diamond2 (with WM 6.5 ROM):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463090
see #7
Check Registry Settings:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand]
"VoiceCmdEnable"=dword:00000000
"LaunchAPEnable"=dword:00000000
Hope it helps!

Workarounds on the new Bluetooth Stack and PTT

Since HTC loves to give the community sleepless nights with duzent of troubleshootings, here a new task.
The TP2 has a Broadcom BT Stack installed... Okay a nice UI in comparison with the default Microsoft one.
BUT: I realy miss the PTT function.
Normaly you can create a shortcut inside the windows dir called SHORT_PTT.lnk or LONG_PTT.lnk for binding tasks to the PTT.
Or when You install MS VC you can access Programs or dial numbers via voice.
It could be that you have to change some values in the registry...
for example HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand string "Path" to "\Programme\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe"
I own a Jabra BT8040 and I realy love it... but without the PTT function it nearly gets useless if i have to pull out the Phone to make a call or look for my upcoming tasks. The reason why i'm buying a BT - Headset is to keep the Phone inside the case.
I now read about a "Maybe" solution I havent tested right now.
read more here
It will be enought if I'm able to bind the Ptt button on my headset to any Programm or Mortscript by holding or tap. (The double Tap feature to redial still works).
I allready called HTC for more Support but the "Hotline Guy" who btw wasn't that able to understand german language doesn't realy understood that the fact is not that MS VC doesn't work correctly but that the PTT function is disabled completly.
So all you junks like me out there let's get a workaround on that.

What's your value of the following registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\VoiceCmdEnable
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGEXTModule

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\VoiceCmdEnable
value="1"
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
value="\Windows\btagext.dll"
after my last tryed fix ^^
I now reinstalled MS VC and my new Values are:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\VoiceCmdEnable
value="1"
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
value="\Programme\Voice Commander\vcbthag.dll"
but both doesn't work

how about uninstall MSVC and try Cyberon VC?
If still not working, make a full backup and put this dll to \Windows and change this in registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Au dioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
value="\Windows\OEMAGW.dll"
Soft reset and try again.

cyberon VC
I haven't found Cyberon VC supporting german language yet.
But Cyberon VC doesn't work eighter...
haven't tried the dll yet but but is useless if only english is supported.
Thanks for your replys

Hope it isn't true but it looks like (i have read it sommewhere on the web) voice composing over BTh wasn't possible due to the Widcom Stack. Having tryed many things and tweaks, nothing.
It is a big mistake from HTC to have not implemanted Voice command over BTh in thus a pro supposed device !

Schmurtz1968 said:
Hope it isn't true but it looks like (i have read it sommewhere on the web) voice composing over BTh wasn't possible due to the Widcom Stack. Having tryed many things and tweaks, nothing.
It is a big mistake from HTC to have not implemanted Voice command over BTh in thus a pro supposed device !
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No, VC over BT did work on my P525 which use Widcom stack as well. It's probably HTC's engineer NEVER got BT working right

Widcomm Stack
That your BTH worked on your other device doesn't mean that it works on the Touch Pro 2 ... bet your device has an other version of the stack.
Looks like the PTT function is reserved for Broadcom or Widcomm devices only.
Or is totaly out of ordern...
This is a realy BIG MISTAKE from HTC... hope they change this in the next Roms.
I'm still in Mail contact with HTC about this.
Let you know if something changes...

I just got my tp2 today, saw it had a BC stack and I knew they messed something up.
PTT & BT headset is like the only thing I actually need BT wise and they broke it, on a pro phone. I guess every (legal) in-car user will be very disappointed about this, considering this should be a "pro" phone.
I can confirm PTT doesn't work with Cyberion Voice Speed Dial nor MSVC. Also, the usual registry settings HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth are there, but changing them doesn't seem to have any impact as the BC stack should(!) handle them. I had a quick look through the widcomm stack settings in the registry but couldn't find any obvious settings for PTT

Something weird:
If I don´t set up a data connection to my carrier, the link to my bluetooth car kit works perfectly, meaning that I can answer calls and hang up using the button on the steering wheel.
Once I set up a connection, I can only answer and hangup using the buttons on the telephone. I any case I can listen and talk using the car kit.
Any ideas of how to solve this puzzle?
Edit: new finding: If set up a connection but data connection is off, everything works fine. When data connetion is on, then it doesn´t work.
Any Ideas?

HTC's respond to "the bluetooth voice dial function"

The touch pro2 can't carry out the voice speed dial function with my bluetooth headset.
tap the call handling button on the headset can not make anything happen. Neither by press and hold the button.
The only function still remain with the sony-ericsson HBH-DS970 is double tap the call handling button on the headset to re-dial the last number.
The voice speed dial function is very useful when your hands is busy, such as driving. What can I do now?
I have two bluetooth headset, one is sony-ericsson HBH-DS970 and the other is SIEMENS HHB-750.
The software I use is cyberon Voice Speed Dial V1.2.
The following is an answer from HTC:
"I do not know how you have got Cyberon installed as it is not instaled on the device by default.
I therefore cannot give you any support as the devices do not have any voice command software installed out of the box.
best regards,
HTC Europe Support"
I can't have anymore words on this.

Correct it doesn't work There are a number of threads about this around here.
I use Microsoft Voice command and have to (long) press the send key on the phone then it kicks in through the Bluetooth car kit. The general theory is this is a side effect of the change in Bluetooth stack made on this phone, I'm sure we'll see a fix, but probably not until we start seeing cooked ROMs.
Gordon

All you can do is to change the settings for the Send button to launch CVSD when you hold it, but for doing this with your headset's button, unfortunately you'll have to wait... for another ROM...
all the best

Reporting in from Canada here... after reading a couple of threads about issues with bluetooth voice dial, I got concerned and tried it this evening with my Jabra BT3030 and Telus TP2. Voice dial using the included MS Voice Command software works properly when I press the voice dial button on the BT3030. So... the problem isn't universal; we have at least some bluetooth devices out there that work properly with voice dialing on a TP2.
Hope that helps,
--VelJharig

VelJharig said:
we have at least some bluetooth devices out there that work properly with voice dialing on a TP2.
Hope that helps,
--VelJharig
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Would you please list some detail information,such as type number, of the bluetooth devices which work perfectly on voice dial?
I seached on this forum and many other chinese forum, almost all of them report the voice dial can't be launch for the call handling button on the bluetooth device.
Thanks in advance.

net_walker said:
Would you please list some detail information,such as type number, of the bluetooth devices which work perfectly on voice dial?
I seached on this forum and many other chinese forum, almost all of them report the voice dial can't be launch for the call handling button on the bluetooth device.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi net_walker,
I'm not sure if I correctly followed your question, but if you're asking for the model number of bluetooth devices that seem to work with the TP2, I gave that in my original post. It is the Jabra brand, model "BT3030" that works correctly for me on my Telus TP2. The basic web page for the model is here:
http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx?productfamilytab=Details
On that website, they list it as the model BT3030, with what I believe is an extended specific model number of "(100-93030000-60)".
Hope that is helpful,
--VelJharig

mmmh ! Very interesting !
At first time, i've thought for a BDR tweack to solve the problem.
Now it sounds like it is radio Rom dependant...

VelJharig said:
So... the problem isn't universal; we have at least some bluetooth devices out there that work properly with voice dialing on a TP2.
Hope that helps,
--VelJharig
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That's great news! Hopefully this will give the chefs here something to work with.
Gordon

In the forum, i'v seen somebody who had posted the Telus TP2 Sys and OEM's. I'm dowloading it and trying to analyse the OEM concerned with Ms Voice Command. Hope it can help us to solve the prob.

Schmurtz1968 said:
In the forum, i'v seen somebody who had posted the Telus TP2 Sys and OEM's. I'm dowloading it and trying to analyse the OEM concerned with Ms Voice Command. Hope it can help us to solve the prob.
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I'd be that person. If you need any other details regarding file info from the device, just let me know.

Thanks for your share.
Because at this moment we didn't have an HardSPL from our dear Olinex Team (hope they do there home work (lol)) to make a cooked rom, i'm looking for something like OEM to CAB to test the OEM into my TP2 and maybe solve the problem for all of us who can't use Bth button to make a voice call.

VelJharig said:
Hi net_walker,
I'm not sure if I correctly followed your question, but if you're asking for the model number of bluetooth devices that seem to work with the TP2, I gave that in my original post. It is the Jabra brand, model "BT3030" that works correctly for me on my Telus TP2. The basic web page for the model is here:
http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx?productfamilytab=Details
On that website, they list it as the model BT3030, with what I believe is an extended specific model number of "(100-93030000-60)".
Hope that is helpful,
--VelJharig
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Hi, everybody,
Did someone know some other bluetooth headsets work with Touch Pro2 to carry out the Voice dial function,except this one "Jabra BT3030" ?

Yes, I have the Tmobile TP2 and the Bluetooth voice dial function works with the MSVC that came with the phone. There is a 5-7 seconds wait until the microphone activates. So after I hold down the call button on the ear piece for few seconds to activate voice command, I have to wait till I hear a second sound that tells me the phone is now listening. Other than this, it works just fine.
Its an old plantronic bluetooth ear piece, dont remember the model number, but its the one with silver stripes down the length of the device on the sides. Its in my car, I will check later and add that if anybody needs the number.

My Plantronics headset can call voicedial the same way it did on my Kaiser - a long press of the "call" button.

Genesis3 said:
My Plantronics headset can call voicedial the same way it did on my Kaiser - a long press of the "call" button.
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Hmmm, very strange.
I have a Plantronics Discovery 925 myself and it's supose to be one in the winner team of Plantronics, but still nothing
And I have to say that it works just perfect with Touch Cruise, Diamond and HD.
Not with this one. You're sure you didn't done anything to your phone regarding this?
all the best

Nope - one of the first things I checked when I got the phone, it worked right out of the box before I started hacking on the registry and such.

DesperateScorpion151 said:
Yes, I have the Tmobile TP2 and the Bluetooth voice dial function works with the MSVC that came with the phone. There is a 5-7 seconds wait until the microphone activates.
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I can confirm that issue on the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2. It is a VERY long time to wait for MSVC to start listening. I wish there was a way to put the standard Bluetooth stack on here so that Voice Command would work better.
I use a variety of Bluetooth headset devices; BlueAnt S1 car kit, BlueAnt Interphone (motorcycle helmet kit), Nextlink G5, Motorola 850 Stereo headphones... and all have the same slowness for activating MSVC.

I have a MOTOROKR™ T505 and if I hold the button down it'll do last number redial but I have to hold the dial key on the phone down to get Cyberon to listen.
Can't use MSVC as it won't understand me. Lot's of humans have this problem too so it's no surprise
Anyone get anywhere with this ?
Is it fixed in 6.5 or are there any ROMs with a fix cooked in ?

I have the same problem with my SE bluetooth

I have a Tilt2 (wm 6.5) stock with a Motorola H17 and voice command works fine. About 2-3 sec after headset button push and MSVC is listening.

Voice dialer

Just installed Cyberon Voice Dialer v1.2.3 build 110421 from the Market. Works very well with voice tags via a BT headset.

dosher said:
Just installed Cyberon Voice Dialer v1.2.3 build 110421 from the Market. Works very well with voice tags via a BT headset.
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nice one, i bought the other Cyberon app Cyberon Voice Commander, hope it works as well as the dialer. the thing is that im now stuck with a huawei u8300 and it doesn't work as i want it to.

I don't understand why when our phones already have 2 good voice diallers 1 from google and one from samsung (both powered by vlingo)

ice_coffee said:
I don't understand why when our phones already have 2 good voice diallers 1 from google and one from samsung (both powered by vlingo)
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do they handle Swedish language? it didn't work on my desire and not on my huawei u8300, can't remember if it worked on my Lg optimus 2x.

ice_coffee said:
I don't understand why when our phones already have 2 good voice diallers 1 from google and one from samsung (both powered by vlingo)
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Maybe I didn't spend long enough with those apps. What I want is to hit the button on my BT headset, say the contacts name and have the phone dial it immediately without going through any further steps. All this via the BT headset. I could never get this to work on the HD2 (the mic on the phone picked up the sound, not the BT headset) but Cyberon Voice Speed Dial on the SGS2 works perfectly.
Can you do that with either of the 2 included apps?

afaik yes, but I will dust off my old BT headset and check

I can also confirm Cyberon Voice Speed Dial works via bluetooth. Vlingo also worked but you couldn't hear confirmation through the bluetooth headset so was a bit hit and miss / hit and hope its calling the right person. CSVD worked great on Windows mobile and does a similar job on Android.

Does this phone support offline voice dialing as symbian phone does?

THANKS for the incredible recommendation on Cyberon Speed Dial. EXACTLY what I was looking for!
I have a lot of foreign sounding contacts and the voice tagging is just like when I had my Palm Treo 600. Also works well starting up apps like Pandora, SMS, and Maps
HIGHLY recommend this app.

Another important difference is the need of internet connection for the 2 stock dialers. Cyberon's products instead work also without connection

This voice dialer is really great, because you can record your own voice tag for each contact, instead to try talking like R2-D2 with the stock application. Unfortunately, I have one big issue - when I first installed this app, all works like a charm. When I double press the home button or BT headset button, Cyberon speed dial starts. Then I flash the phone with the latest firmware (KE7) and now when I press these buttons, starting the terrible stock application. I spoke with the tech support, but all of their suggestions doesn't work. If somebody have an idea how to make Cyberon as default application or to remove stock app without rooting the phone, I will be very, very grateful. Already tried in Application/Manage application to clear default values for stock voice commander, but clear default button is innactive (gray).

Same problem for me with KE7 firmware - can't launch Voice Speed Dial from the BT headset. Have tried uninstalling it, unpairing the BT headset, turning off phone then removing battery. Then reinstalled app and re-paired headset. Still doesn't work.
Have reported this to Cyberon and they responded "...recent ROMs don't follow standard process of Android's definition to handle the Bluetooth activation event. We're not able to change it at this moment, but have reported this issue to Samsung, and hope they will fix it soon."
Meanwhile the only solution I've found is to root phone and then freeze Voice command using AntTek App Manager. Then unpair BT headset > soft reset > re-pair headset. I now have Voice Speed Dial launching from the headset again.
See post #5
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15488316

Just replace vlingo with stock android voice dialer app from sgs or from cm7 with root explorer in system/apps.
Works without internet, you can hear confirmations in bt headset, no need to re-pair the headset.
Or use cyberon.
Attached the version from nexus s.
Sent from my GT-I9100

Is there a way to replace the 'double tap' from launching Vilingo to Launch the Cyberion Voice Dialer app instead? If so, i'll be so glad to know how!