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Extended Roms???? ok i am a total n00b can anyone explain to me what these are or what you do with them?
Or at lease point me to a tutorial or info?
I also would like someone to explain what the kitchen is for?...............(& dont say cooking food ....)
any help point in the right direction would be a big help...
Thanx PPL
This is in the Wiki, I learnt from there.
Just for you, because you asked nicely, the extended ROM is what is loaded onto the phone that is non-essential to operation (basically, anything that isn't the operating system). When you hard reset, and then it starts installing software after boot; that's your extended ROM being loaded.
A lot of people make their own because they don't like/want/need the software in the extended ROM (see: O2 Active, iMate bundling Skype).
The whole cooking thing I don't really get either, I think it's just another word for rolling your own extended ROM.
Chris
Lewisham..
thanx for your help heading on over to wiki now to look a lot harder.
Cooking is all about customising your extended ROM to include the files and registry settings you want straight away after a hard reset. You will need to cook an extended ROM if you want to upgrade to 1.40 and keep your operator settings for GPRS etc.
Hi guys,
I only found this site a couple of days ago and I have already unlocked my XDA2s, stripped the O2 software, and tried out a few little tweaks.
However, I am really not confident enough yet to do anything more serious, despite being an IT & Communications engineer.
Could you please help me? I am looking for your latest ROM version to use on my XDA to completely remove the O2 stuff, hence stopping it attempting to install software after a reset. I am also missing some useful utilities, such as the battery monitor etc.
Are there any extended ROMs readily available for anyone to use, with some useful programs/utilities included?
I have looked at the wiki but don't really know what I am doing!!
Many thanks,
Bret
Oh, and I forgot to ask... is there anything available to debrand the XDA2s? I would love to stop it displaying the O2 start-up screen.
Maybe there should be an XDA-Developers start-up screen instead. :wink:
If you look through the wiki you can cusotmise your extended ROM to whatever, I ontice you have an xda 2s with vodafone- have you got any installation files (CABs) that set up GPRS, MMS for Vodafone? If not, there are cab files that are easy to add to your extended ROM, the files are here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13498&highlight=orange+mms+settings
Other useful files are things like Pocket MSN and Resco Explorer, which you have to buy, along with O2 Plus (free download - search for it, I haven't got a link!)
If you wan to make sure all the o2 rubbish is gone for good, check out the Extended ROM kitchen , find your ROM version and then unlock your extended ROM and delete all the Operator Customization CABs that install all that O2 crap.
If you want to change the startup images (better known as splash screens) have a look here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14475&highlight=gift
HTH
Fin
Hi Findus,
That's brilliant, thank you. My images have been changed and the only thing O2 now is the fascia which I can't do much about unfortunately.
I have also installed the Vodafone GPRS settings but none of them work for me, not even the straight forward dialup connection. Not sure why but the same error every time just says "No modem at this location" or something like that.
Many thanks anyway, I'm much happier now. I just need to find the correct iMate ROM. The only one I can see in the Wiki is the Asian one. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
Cheers, Bret
Relative newbie to this forum extrom Version editing
How can I edit my version numbers of the extrom now that I have it the way I want(sorta)?
One other other question, I have all the registry settings for my personalizations, how to I place those in the Extrom to be invoke after a hard reset. Do I create a cab file for this like the other programs or can I just exec REGEDIT4 personalized.reg? I also can not seem to find where the speed dial entries are stored.
http://xda.o2.co.uk/xdaExecSoftware.aspx
v1.30.162, with AKU 2 and Radio 1.09.00 , has anyone given it a try yet?
Cheers
Rich
yeh i have, i have to say so far im pretty impressed, it seems alot more stable, and the new coms manager, looks alot prettier...
overall, i recommend the update from O2, no problems installing it, and SPB Backup worked a treat...
At last !!
Anyone have a direct link to the download ?
http://xda.o2.co.uk/downloads/Xda_Exec_Upgrade_v1.30.162.exe
also:
http://xda.o2.co.uk/downloads/AppsuiteXdaExec2.zip
Does SPB backup let you restore your data after a rom upgrade? I'm using Sprite Backup and it doesn't support this yet.
I tried it as well and I have to say I am VERY DISAPPOINTED with it. There is NO A2DP support. It uses 2MB more than QTEK's ROM with AKU2 and A2DP, that is without installing the Ext ROM and with QTEK's Ext ROM installed. The 2MB difference alone turned me away from it. I saw no diffence in signal strenght when using O2 or QTEK's. Stability wise, I have not encountered a system freeze with QTEK's in the 2 weeks I tried it, and I am a "NUT" when it comes to the system freezing on me.
For the least, this O2 update is only comparable to the latest IMate update with only AKU2 being supported. I can see why somoene who have not tried the QTEK ROM can say this is a more stable ROM than the old O2 ROM because it is, but definitely it can not surpass the functionality and stability given by the QTEK ROM. So I switched back to QTEK's, I did not bother to find out if it is stable or not since I don't have any problems with the QTEK ROM.
this is true, i havent tried the QTek Rom, as i dont wanna void my warranty...
but i am slightly tempted to say the least!! one thing that has pissed me off is the Video button, within the Phone App, is still take, and unbubble like like the others (corporate mode)
i have a t mobile mda pro, im sooooooo confused as to what rom to try?
My current details are
Radio 1.06.00
Rom 1.20.32
Ext Rom 1.20.120
Obviously i dont want to mess it up, from reading around it seems the imate is favoured by most?
is there really much to gain from these upgrades?
So can an anyone recommend a better rom?
douglasgrant said:
Does SPB backup let you restore your data after a rom upgrade? I'm using Sprite Backup and it doesn't support this yet.
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Sprite backup now does support restore after rom upgrade.
Check the details on the product.
thegadgetman said:
douglasgrant said:
Does SPB backup let you restore your data after a rom upgrade? I'm using Sprite Backup and it doesn't support this yet.
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Sprite backup now does support restore after rom upgrade.
Check the details on the product.
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I'm using Sunnysoft BackupManager which is perfect and working.
Tuningszocske said:
thegadgetman said:
douglasgrant said:
Does SPB backup let you restore your data after a rom upgrade? I'm using Sprite Backup and it doesn't support this yet.
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Sprite backup now does support restore after rom upgrade.
Check the details on the product.
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I'm using Sunnysoft BackupManager which is perfect and working.
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But does sunny soft support restoring after a different ROM upgrade? That is the most important thing aside from just backing up and restoring as any backup software can do that.
Sunnysoft - like others - can backup all information excluding ROM-files.
So, yes, you can restore all your datas, but I wouldn't advice, because with your old registry, and old settings, files it would be unstable. But it works.
It has to be the Qtek rom for me, I have just ordered a nokia HS-12w (sweet headset) so I will let you guys know how it goes when I get it !!!
Qtec Rom
Does anyone know where I can see pics of the today screen for the Qtec Rom or would anyone be kind enough to put some up.
Thanks
If I don't need push e-mail and I've got radio version 1.06.00 and I like the battery icon the way it is, is there any point in upgrading to the latest O2 ROM?
Any thoughts and advice gratefully appreciated.
XDA update
I have 2 XDA Execs, one for testing / backup & one for real use.
I have updated to the latest O2 firmware on the real use one & it is much better than before. Works faster, not crashed & seems to be better designed.
Today I have downloaded & installed the Jasjar, Qtek & just doing the standard Universal (great instructions here .....
(http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instructions for those with Country Code error)
upgrade. I can't see any difference in the image sizes on the PC, I am not techy enough to see major differences on the XDA.
I use it for most things but don't care about Bluetooth headphones (really, get a proper device, iPod). :twisted:
If you aren't techy & have an XDA stick with the O2 software - it loads easily and works much better. I will be evaluating the other software but from first glance I can't see too much to get excited about in the other versions, & not enough to have wasted as much time as I have already done !
If you set a password, the open up, you cannot change the lock out time if you aren't actually using it. ie, running tomtom on car charge, keeps timing out. - stupid!!!
i'm just a newbie with HTC. i do know a lot about Symbian phones specially Nokia models. I just purchased a XDA II mini, and i've heard i cut put applications, tools and games with it as well.
i'm already collecting stuff for that. then, i encounter that I could also upgrade, WWE, Radio and Extended ROM.
i have no idea on that, can some1 explain me how this things works... pls. pls. pls... thanx
i have download some ROM, and Radio. i've used it following instructions listed on the site. and have seen my new XDA being updated. but i don't have an extended ROM????? how to install one??? tnx again and more power to all...
The Radio ROM is responsible for your normal GSM function (it doesn't handles WiFi). It is like the firmware of your normal (say) Nokia (non-symbian) phone. I think you need to specifically upgrade the Radio seperately (e.g. not included in ROM package). Some say that upgrading the Radio will improve things such as phone related speed and reception quality.
A ROM usually comes in a package (that is, it includes Ext-ROM). Depending on how you upgrade your ROM, you probably already upgraded your Ext-ROM as well. Probably that's why you didn't see Ext-ROM to be downloaded. However, there are user forged ExtRom that suppose to have all the goodies in it, such that, every time you perform a hard reset, you do not need to seperately install your favourite/essential software.
The Ext-ROM is the area that phone-operators put their customized stuff in. Example, both operators O2 and T-Mobile may have the same ROM for their respective HTC-Magician model, but they surely have different Ext-ROM. This Ext-ROM determines how the phone looks like what the operator wants it to be (e.g. theme and colour of O2, GSM related settings, GPRS settings).
If your phone (or the ROM you upgraded) is from the same operator (e.g. O2, T-mobile) or distribtor (e.g. Qtek, iMate), you may not see much of a difference as both Ext-ROM may actually have the same packaging.
Tell us how you upgrade your unit and we may able to tell you if you already Ext rom upgraded.
WWE is World Wrestling Entertainment which...
Seriously, WWE is a code that shows you which region the particular ROM is for. WWE is for World Wide English (I think) which is generally the default for most phone. However, if you like, you can get other region ROM to installed on your device (make sure they are compatible). You can basically guess that region they are from by guessing these code (you can find - but difficult - them on the web), e.g. Italian ones might be ITY, Spanish on might be SPN, etc.
Big thanx...
thanx thanx for the reply.. for the efort... and much mor for the time...
anywys like your meaning of WWE! hehe.. but i do understand that already as some indications of language/region settings of the ROM package.
i'm having problem with EXT-Rom because, after flashing, when i check Device information, it says about my ROM version, my RADIO version, but my EXT-ROM is blank. i downloaded the package ROM from this site. the 1.12 package for magician, have downloaded also the separate Radio package (1.13), but the ROM package doesn't seem to install the EXT-ROM.
i tried downloading EXT-ROM on separate folder of the FTP, but as i cud see it is not like the ROM files and Radio Files that comes in package. the 2 EXT-ROM i downloaded was a chunk of CAB files and ZIP/RAR files... i was wondering if i should copy all of them to my XDA and manually install..
is there a built in package EXT-ROM??? or is there a program that automatically install them???
again thanxs so much... hopefully when i fully understand the XDA world i could contribute and share my stuff... thanx to the group! =)
Your unit runs on W2003 while mine runs on WM5. So, I can't really give details on your missing ExtRom.
However, yes, ExtRom usually comes with a bunch of CAB files and come XML or config files. What you need to do is, try to search for unlocking Ext rom in this forum or the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ to check on how to unlock the ext rom.
As for magician, there is a thing called Big Storage, which seems to handle ExtRom differently. I don't have the details, someone with a Magician big storage may able to help you on this. Anyway, check to see if your ROM is a big storage enabled version. If it is, it should be very obvious (stated on the page/rom somewhere) as this big storage thing is a hit in Magician. You may have to treat the one with/without big storage enabled one differently.
Anyway, advise is, look for the unlock ext-rom for Magician. Follow the instructions carefully (though ext rom fiddling is usually non fatal), and see if can have it unlocked. You should then have a seperate 'partition' or folder that you can write on normally. Just copy everything into the 'partition' and you had your very own ext-rom. That's why extrom looks different than the ROM itself.
thanx thanx again..
yup i did download one of the big storage rom in the xda-developers ftp site with ver 1.12
i did flash that to my phone, and always get Ext-Rom error to my device... ROM and Radio is ok, but EXt ROM is a failure.. anyways, following your advice i downloade a separate Ext-ROM files and hit the autoconfig, and from there everything was ok.... =)
you did mention that your device runs WM2005, and mine 2003... is it possible to upgrade that as well??? is there a tool to do that??? and is that different from the ROM files to upgrade the device???
---(having problems) for the last 2 days, i can't access the FTP folder of xda-developers... "page can't be displayed", r we experiencing problem with the site??? can u pls post a link on how to access it directly??? same with wiki.xda-developers...
BIG Thanx! =)
Big storage version may not have ExtRom, probably that's why you are having problems with it. Anyway, the method you've done is just simply installing the Ext Rom stuff into your device. Upon the next hard reset, you have to reinstall the ExtRom stuff again manually (as oppose to if you have Ext Rom, the stuff will be install automatically upon hardreset). But I guess since you don't hardreset it everyday, it is the same.
No. Repeat. NO. you can't upgrade your device to WM5. It has been well proven that Magician cannot be upgrade to WM5. And do not try to install ROM from other devices (e.g. Charmer) which looks very similiar to Magician. They are different in hardware and hence the ROMs are not compatible. And you may kill your device. So, repeat again, do not attempt to upgrade your Magician to WM5. You can always stay here and read new threads. WM5 in Magician is a superb news that if there is a possibility, it will be a hit in this forum.
BTW, on the bright side, you can see that Magician is a better device than Charmer although the latter runs WM5. Magician is superb in almost all the tasks given. Take a look at this thread to see the advantages of Magician vs Charmer. So, able to run W2003 is not such a bad thing at all. Probably WM5 will slow the Magician down.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55153&highlight=
hi, sorry if this topic has been posted before. and sorry for my ignorance on this topic.
i have an orbit that came with wm5 which i later flashed to the official wm6 via o2 upgrade website.
the only problem i have is that the new rom is taking up too much programme memory and has made the phone terribly slow.
i'd like to get it flashed with a rom that doesnt take up too much memory but the problem is that i cant find a step by step guide of how i should do this.
what is the most stable rom available for the orbit and where can i find it from?
if i get my phone flashed via a 3rd party rom will it remove the microsoft office mobile apps from the phone? (i really need these for my uni studies)
thanks in advance.
alrite mate,
what you need to do is make sure you run USPL first! otherwise u may BRICK your phone.
What I found the best rom to be is artemis touch 4.01. Try searching for it nad follow instructions in there. If i remmeber correctly the UPSL program is included in the update that you download.
good luck and enjoy the wonderful benefits of installing a custom rom!
'Artemis Touch 4.01" comes in several versions - Full, Lite, Vanilla, with and without cube etc. 'Artemis Touch 4.01 WM6.1 WWE ROM - Lite without cube' has an incredible amount of memory left over for running programs. A couple days of running it now and I have no problem keeping about 19-20M free. USPL is included with both ROMs mentioned here.
No matter which version you choose it will wipe clean everything on your phone. Nothing from before will remain. The good news is both ROMs mentioned here have the ms office mobile apps built into them. So, you will get those back. Before you flash, be sure the files you created using the office apps are saved elsewhere (memory card or via activesync to another computer), otherwise you'll be kickin' yourself.
Okay, i am a supernoob in this sphere, but i want to upgrade my Asus P535 from windows mobile 6.0 to windows mobile 6.1.
What is the way to upgrade my Phone?
Rom/Activesync/etc?
Thanks in advance.
You need to go to asusmobile.com or some similar forum that has the model you have. they will guide you trough the right process this is HTC forum
I know you're new, but it's really important to search before posting... The section of the forums you've made this thread in is only supposed to be used for ROM developers!
You need to find a ROM download thread on the site for your phone (like this one, but this is WM6.5) and yes, you will need to establish and maintain an ActiveSync connection in order to update the ROM. The procedure of flashing a ROM varies slightly from device to device so make sure you've read a tutorial before you begin so you know what you're doing. You need to back up all the files that aren't stored on external memory too as these will be deleted when you flash your new ROM.