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02 XDAII Extended ROM - WM2003SE

I upgraded to WM2003SE a while back and at the time had an Orange SIM in my XDAII and my 02 SIM in my E200 Smartphone. The extended ROM I used was Orange specific and contained all the necessary GPRS Configs etc
Anyways, I've now got a C500 with my Orange SIM in it and so the 02 Sim is back in my XDAII and I'm looking for a good External Rom dump that contains the UK 02 GPRS/WAP/MMS Configs etc and is compatible with WM2003SE.
Can anyone point me in the direction of one, I have looked and tried one or two but none have the correct configs for 02's GPRS service (Pay monthly not PAYG).
TIA

Did you get anywhere with this, Darren? I'm just wondering whether to upgrade my O2 XDAII to WM2003SE but the lack of dedicated O2 Ext.rom files (as far as I can tell) is putting me off.

I didn't but don't let that stop you, the SE upgrade is well worth it. I just removed all the O2 specific rubbish from the Ext ROM and it's fine.

Thanks for the reply.
I'd love to upgrade but without the O2 auto-config software in the ExtROM I wouldn't have a clue where to start configuring all the network, SMS, MMS etc settings for O2 pay monthly. Do you know of a guide or something somewhere?
Secondly, I searched earlier to try and find out which was the best ROM to use for those of us in the UK, but there didn't seem to be a definitive answer. Would you mind telling me which ROM you used and where you got it from if you're happy with it? I need Bluetooth headset, BT GPS, BT ActiveSync, speakerphone to work perfectly to consider upgrading. Currently my XDAII works like a charm with ROM 1.72 but some people seem to have had trouble with the SE upgrade and Bluetooth.
Thanks a bunch in advance.

I use all those BT functions alos, I used the 2.02 ROM available at the beginning of this thread.
I've left the auto config files in the Ext ROM so there is no need to manually configure anything. I have had zero issues with it since the upgrade I'm happy to upload my Ext ROM to an FTP if you want it?
The only critical noe I found was to remove the 'TPDisable' entry in the Ext ROM when performing the upgrade as you receive a lot of 'This isn't designed for WM2003SE' messages and with TPDisable enbled you can't click OK!

griffog said:
I use all those BT functions alos, I used the 2.02 ROM available at the beginning of this thread.
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Forgive me if I'm being a bit fick, but I can't see where you mean. Have you a ROM available through your pocketgpsworld.com website? Or is there only one 2.02 ROM available and I can download it from this site's FTP? I thought the 2.02 ROM was the Chinese one.
griffog said:
I've left the auto config files in the Ext ROM so there is no need to manually configure anything. I have had zero issues with it since the upgrade I'm happy to upload my Ext ROM to an FTP if you want it?
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I didn't know it was possible to upgrade the OS ROM without touching the ExtROM. I'm not a noob with the XDAII, but I've found the myriad threads and discussions on the question of 2003SE upgrades very confusing! Since there seems to be no obvious single solution I haven't known where to start.
If you have a working ExtROM for the XDAII on O2 UK and you wouldn't mind uploading it somewhere (this site?) I'd be very grateful. If you wouldn't mind pointing me to the main OS ROM image that you used as well then that'd be groovy too.
griffog said:
The only critical noe I found was to remove the 'TPDisable' entry in the Ext ROM when performing the upgrade as you receive a lot of 'This isn't designed for WM2003SE' messages and with TPDisable enbled you can't click OK!
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I guess that's achieved by editing the config file in the ExtROM once it's all installed after an upgrade?

Sorry, I thought this was the original WM2003SE thread! The download I used is at the beginning of this thread.
It's a while since I upgraded mine, I had thought the Ext ROM remained intact but reading the thread instructions apparently not. Sorry I can't help more but as I say it's some months sisnce I did it!

Aaah. OK. Thanks again, but I think I'll leave it in that case. I don't yet feel brave enough to start messing about with home-cooked ExtROMs if you don't have yours handy. It was good of you to offer though.

1.40 ROM for XDAIIs

Does anybody have a copy that I can have which involves not messing with and that I can flash to my XDAIIs with no country error and no o2 stuff on it so it looks like the i-mate :?:

erm...................no
1.read the wiki
2.read the wiki
3.read the wiki
if above dosnt work try contacting your doctor about your brain......

lol, yeah, please read the wiki, you cannot go wrong, just follow the simple instructions, dont worry, you WILL be fine, if you get a country error then dont worry about that either, just keep trying, 8)
we have faith in you man!!!
8)

Dude do what this say's.
I've just done it: UK XDA IIs, on Orange network, running i-mate 1.40 ROM.

Slightly going OT...
I am quite keen to do the upgrade from my standard O2 XDA2s 1.31.00 WWE ROM, but I am a little unsure on what 1.40 ROM to download from WIKI. I think I need:
i-mate 1.40.176
I know my device is a Blue Angel, Rom as above, extended ROM as 1.31.139 WWE
Can anyone confirm the correct download please?
Also, has anyone had any problems installing on XDA's the same as mine?
I have read the install tutorial, but would like to get an idea of if I am going to run into problems.
Oh, one more thing... What advantage does ROM 1.40 have over my existing ROM apart from bug fixes (oh please! daily lockups!!!)?
Many, many thanks.

O2 XDAIIs Upgrade
I used the i-mate 1.40.176 upgrade for my O2 XDAIIs. All in all its pretty stable, with only the Bluetooth stability (memory issues and BT Manager & Settings "disappearing") as the main issue. Much better than the O2 1.31 ROM (will they ever get that 1.40 update out...!?) You will need to use the "MAUpgrade" rather than "BAUpgrade" utility, as the 1.40.176 ROM was built for the i-mate rather than the xda2s.
One problem I did have with this ROM at the start, was that GPRS would not stay connected. This seems to be a sporadic problem among those that upgrade, but if you experience it after upgrading to this ROM, you can correct the problem by replacing the "CallerID" cab in the extended ROM with the older version (1.17) This version of the file is available on wiki also. This will involved unhiding and unlocking the Extended ROM and replacing the file. Look at the wiki instructions under Blue Angel for "Cooking Your First Extended ROM" That said, you may not experience this problem, so upgrade the ROM first and see how it goes.
All in all a much better ROM. I am trying the new O2 Asia WWE ROM with a modified extended ROM and this is also pretty good. Slighty better Wi Fi switch on and off in my opinion. This one is on wiki also, but you will probably need to "cook" the extended ROM here a bit more than the 1.40.176 version.
Hope this helps
Chris

Anybody tried the imate 1.40 rom on O2 XDA IIs purchased from Singapore?
I am facing problems to using any 'Today Plug-ins' like IP Dashboard, O2 Plus beta, Lexisgoo English dictionary etc. The problem is after say 30 minutes or after more, my keyboard input will only be selectable, cannot select CE-Star chinese keyboard or Intellipad.
What do I have on my O2 XDA IIs?
1. CE-Star
2. Intellipad and Intellidialler
3. Lexisgoo English dictionary
4. SKTools
5. Sprite backup standard
6. Cal89A calculator
7. MDict 1.21
and many more.
Please help anyone.
Thanks.

my exerience with this device and all the ROMS has been that the fewer Today plugins you have the better. SPB Pocket Plus V2.5 caused a lot of lock ups. Not sure about new version 3.0 Seems multiple Today plug ins cause conflicts. Hard to pinpoint all the interactions and what affects what... Not much help I am afraid :-[ I would just try to keep them to a minimum.
Regards
chris

You said it man!
I'm down to zero 'Today Plug-ins' now and it seems to keep my IIs from needing to 'soft reset'.
Any others from Singapore who had used the Imate 1.40 rom?

Two major problems that I am facing with 1.40 ROM include:
1. wifi can't be connected after disconnecting GPRS.
2. bluetooth problem (memory error) or storage card disappear after disconnecting BT.
Anybody experience these?
Cheers,

zard said:
You said it man!
I'm down to zero 'Today Plug-ins' now and it seems to keep my IIs from needing to 'soft reset'.
Any others from Singapore who had used the Imate 1.40 rom?
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Me !!
I had used the Imate rom before but, there has been many casses of terrible lag. When i updated to 1.40 and radio to 1.13 wooo... just very very fast...

Installing the latest Pocketplus with my 1.40 ROM makes my device hard-reset itself.
I need a way of getting IE to be able to save pictures. Anyone know of an alternative way to do this?

I have no problem with pocketplus 3.0.
Which version you are using?

1.40 ROM has serius today screen problems with me too (That's why I still use 1.31).

I have no problem with pocketplus 3.0.
Which version you are using?
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My ROM configuration is in my sig.
The SPB pocketplus version is: v3.0.0.3652
I really want the mods it offers. (particularly 'save picture as' in IE).

UNIVERSAL: NEW ROM: Orange UK 1.30.90

Out today to download from here:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...c=PaDPage&cid=1044130840493&mid=1044129390154
Discuss in the relevant forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=249806

hi
whats up with the radio rom version on this update???
1.03??? thats so 2005!!!

Hi, i have an Orange M5000,
my ROM is:
ROM: 1.13.49 WWE
ROM Date: 09/20/05
Radio version: 1.03.00
Protocol version: 42.36.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.130 WWE
do you think its worth me installing this upgrade, is the only thing it changes is the ability to use push E-mail?, whats the best radio version to have?
thanks for your help

Hi I did the update a few hours ago and I'm loving it, the only thing I don't realy like is the fact that the battery icon has moved2task bar, but its all working,plus there is no silent pause everytime I pick up a call

I have found one problem, it could just be me but im not sure what else i can do, but i cant install SPB PocketPlus 3, im lost with out this software, i think its the most usful program i have

spv-m5000
radio version i have on spv-m5000 is 1.09
if any one wants it ill send them
its to process :
1 fromn 1.03 to 1.06
then 1.06 to 1.09
about 70 mb.
rgds

Re: spv-m5000
motin said:
1 fromn 1.03 to 1.06
then 1.06 to 1.09
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Why would you need both?! you can go straight from 1.03 to 1.09!
and it's on the ftp...

radio upgrade
gd luck if u can do it
on my spv-m5000
i could not do it and hed to do 1 by one.

Hi, lastnight i upgraded my radio from .03 to .09 and it worked perfectly, as normal i had to make sure the phone was in bootloader mode to make t work, i got the files from this sites FTP server, XDA-Developers site is all you need!
Thank you to everybody that gives there views and advice freely!
P.S i got Pocket plus to install after i did another hard reset, phewwww

Don't want to sound stupid but ...
.. is upgrading your ROM an easy thing to do for a non teckie ?
Do you need to hard reset etc etc. ?
Is there a guide out there ?
Don't wanna take the plunge and mess things up. I've got loads of software and tweaks on my SPVM5000 - will Sprite Back up re-install with a new ROM. I'm also on 1.13.49 same as jab1a.

Hello All,
If i replace my xda exec rom to orange rom, it will be locked?
Another question, where can i get the radio rom 1.09 to flash the orange rom?
Thank you,
racerx

Hi Rick GM,
the ROM upgrade is pritty easy and the Radio update is aswell, everything you need to know or might not need to know about the update is in the WiKi and forum. its real easy.
As for backups, im not sure how this works but for good measure before i did the upgrade i did a FULL backup, then i did a non-rom backup (i.e i just backed-up the things i had installed on the m5000) then i did a PIM and message backup (note: i only ever have problems with a restore when i decide to restore the messages databases so unless you realy need to i would only backup the PIM(contacts) database). I think if you tryed to do a full backup and then do the upgrade and then restore the full backup you might run into a few errors or incompatability. it only takes about 30mins to do the update and about another 20mins to re-install all your software and then the rest of your life to get all the setting you want just right! lol
I am sure you will do fine, after all this is the best site in the world for PPC so im sure someone here would be able to help you if it all goes pear shaped

Moved thread from news section

Thanks for that jab 1a
I haven't taken the plunge yet but it's coming !
I think your 20 minutes to re-instal software is a bit optimistic even if all goes well. I reckon it will take me an hour plus to sort out all the cr*p that I've got on my device. (I keep a copy of everything but some's on my home PC and some at work).
I'll update you when I finally pluck up courage / find the time.
BTW - I'm only going to do it because you can. Isn't that what these devices are all about ?

Rick GM said:
BTW - I'm only going to do it because you can. Isn't that what these devices are all about ?
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Ahh thats the spirit!
yep looking at it now i think it would take more than 20mins
let us know how you get on when you do it

jab1a wote
let us know how you get on when you do it
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Well I upgraded with the ROM from the Orange site (1.30.90) - no problem. That's good news.
Sprite Backup V5.1 is newly released this week and boasts cross ROM/Device backup capability after capturing your old ROM in .sbu file immediately after hard reset and prior to ROM upgrade.
It hasn't worked - it won't recognise my .sbu file (Invalid Upgrade File) or words to that effect so it looks like a slog to put everything back on (unless Sprite can restore (no pun intended) my faith in them and come up with an answer. Might have a go at the Radio Rom next.

I have the new ROM from Qtek into my Universal. Is it worth the upgrade to this new Orange ROM?
best regards,
Deiota

Rick GM said:
jab1a wote
let us know how you get on when you do it
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Well I upgraded with the ROM from the Orange site (1.30.90) - no problem. That's good news.
Sprite Backup V5.1 is newly released this week and boasts cross ROM/Device backup capability after capturing your old ROM in .sbu file immediately after hard reset and prior to ROM upgrade.
It hasn't worked - it won't recognise my .sbu file (Invalid Upgrade File) or words to that effect so it looks like a slog to put everything back on (unless Sprite can restore (no pun intended) my faith in them and come up with an answer. Might have a go at the Radio Rom next.
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Sprite really screwed up here.
When they released 5.1, they re-introduced their killer rom upgrade proof restore feature. It even works for the new self-extracting restores. How cool is that?
Now, today, I had to have my SPV M5000 replaced (same model) because of a screen problem, and knew the replacement would be AKU2, so I purchased Sprite 5.1 to back up with. I looked around all the different pages I could find showing how to use Device Upgrade Mode. All had links to the same GetUpgradeData.exe. So, even though I had that nagging developers' intuition that this must be wrong, I assumed it was the right version. I only had twelve hours to puchase, get the file down, and do all the backup stuff.
Then I exchanged devices with the courier. (Orange care is great (mostly!)). However, when I tried to restore, what a surprise: "Invalid Upgrade File". Checked back on Sprite Site - ONE page out of the five or six links to GetUpgradeData2005.exe. Howl !!!! :x
Can someone please post an UpgradeData.sbu, from a clean vanilla Pre-AKU2 M5000, dumped with the new GetUpgradeData2005.exe, otherwise someone at Sprite is just gonna have to die. Lots.
Many, Many thank yous in advance!

Update: Sprite have kindly offerred to provide an sbu for 1.13.53 WWE.
Unfortunately, as best as I can remember, mine Rom was 1.13.49 WWE.
Can anyone please tell me of an identifying characterstic by which I dould have distinguished the two versions (bearing in mind - I don't have the device any more), or even better an upgrade file (sbu) for 1.13.49 WWE?

Mutant
I too used the GetUpgradeData.exe as advised by Sprite. After registering my problem they advised me to use the GetUpgradeData2005.exe and sent me a copy. Unfortunately I'd already upgraded the ROM so didn't have the .sbu pre upgrade. I've since got a clean 1.13.49 from a colleagues Orange SPV M5000 but the backup still didn't work. Sprite recognised the .sbu but just messed up the device (after partially restoring) requiring several hard resets. If you want the .sbu, I think I've got it stored somewhere. Let me know.

Newbie anxiety!

Hi all
I've taken a good long read throughout this Upgrade to WM6 subforum, I like the idea of it a lot and want to go ahead and do it, but having never re-flashed a PDA Phone before (I've done my PSP lots of times tho but thats easy in relation) I think its very difficult to find anywhere to even begin from!
Can anybody just give me a total-overall-topdown-summary-breakdown of the steps I need to perform on a fresh T-Mobile MDA Vario II. Doesn't have to be in detail, just all the basic steps required.
The forums, whilst being great for regulars seems to just confuse me the more I read them because of all the new issues raised and the individual cases on different vendor models of the Hermes.
My phone isnt a new Vario II, but I've done nothing to it except install apps, and it is showing REALLY old bootloader (I think 1.04) and radio versions (cant remember) in the system information. I'm presuming it'll require a radio upgrade at the least.
I would really appreciate a summary of everything and I think all newbies would benefit a lot.
Specific areas of confusion and concern -
-I would like to be able to grab the existing memory contents as an image off the phone just in case I choose to return to WM5 in future, and have a way of easily restoring it with no fuss. Exactly like ghosting a PC will return the whole OS, and all files and apps. Any recommendations how?
-I cant choose which custom third party WM6 ROM to use or just use HTCs official one if I should.
-I dont know if I'll still be able to use TomTom Navigator and some games plus I'm running TCPMP with the YouTube FlashVideoBundle. Will this still work?
-Should I upgrade the radio and bootloader before thinking about moving to WM6? Is there any other areas I should be flashing/rejigging before upgrading? Eg whats this about the ExtRom and gaining more space (obviously good)?
-The vendor lock on the firmware concerns me. Is there one on the UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II? Also about what I read somewhere about how disabling the lock with one of your tools might brick the phone (or am I getting confused somewhere along the line).
-As the community moves on with further developments, the divide between n00bism (me) and l33t (you) increases - case in point - kitchens??? I'm not saying though that it shouldn't happen!
Many thanks for everybodys work.
Stu

I'm basing my comments on Vp3G's ROM,
Begin by reading over
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=26
(1) MUST DO: Download and install SPL (Bootloader) version 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
(2) Optional: Download and install an updated Radio. I'm using 1.54.07.00
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697
Pick out a ROM and download it. I'm currently running vp3G's
ROM version: VP3G's v3.62
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
Install the ROM.
Study your phone, read, study your phone, read. Very soon, all of this will become second nature to you.

Heliosphan said:
Specific areas of confusion and concern -
(1) I would like to be able to grab the existing memory contents as an image off the phone just in case I choose to return to WM5 in future, and have a way of easily restoring it with no fuss. Exactly like ghosting a PC will return the whole OS, and all files and apps. Any recommendations how?
(2) I cant choose which custom third party WM6 ROM to use or just use HTCs official one if I should.
(3) I dont know if I'll still be able to use TomTom Navigator and some games plus I'm running TCPMP with the YouTube FlashVideoBundle. Will this still work?
(4) Should I upgrade the radio and bootloader before thinking about moving to WM6? Is there any other areas I should be flashing/rejigging before upgrading? Eg whats this about the ExtRom and gaining more space (obviously good)?
(5) The vendor lock on the firmware concerns me. Is there one on the UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II? Also about what I read somewhere about how disabling the lock with one of your tools might brick the phone (or am I getting confused somewhere along the line).
(6) As the community moves on with further developments, the divide between n00bism (me) and l33t (you) increases - case in point - kitchens??? I'm not saying though that it shouldn't happen!
(7) Many thanks for everybodys work.
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(1) No idea, but why would you want to return to WM5. Once you have WM6, you'll never go back. I'm sure there is probably a WM5 somewhere.
(2) I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
(3) Hit and miss. But probably.
(4) Upgrade the boot loader. Radio is optional, but I recommend it to.
(5) News to me
(6) Welcome to the world of custom, "free", ROMS. You like it or you don't. Download, support and enjoy, or move on
(7) You're Welcome

gwtx2 said:
I'm basing my comments on Vp3G's ROM,
Begin by reading over
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=26
(1) MUST DO: Download and install SPL (Bootloader) version 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
(2) Optional: Download and install an updated Radio. I'm using 1.54.07.00
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697
Pick out a ROM and download it. I'm currently running vp3G's
ROM version: VP3G's v3.62
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
Install the ROM.
Study your phone, read, study your phone, read. Very soon, all of this will become second nature to you.
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That's basically what I just did last night after getting my 8525. I did the unlock before the above tho.
pretty easy and quick.
now I need a keyboard skin that is grey... schap's version (I think it was his) does not work for me dunno why.

Wow!
Thanks guys that was lightning quick!
I'll take a proper ganders at your responses tomorrow.
Thanks
Stu

ikkoku said:
That's basically what I just did last night after getting my 8525. I did the unlock before the above tho.
pretty easy and quick.
now I need a keyboard skin that is grey... schap's version (I think it was his) does not work for me dunno why.
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go to programs\advanced config (or system tools, cant remember)
Find advancedconfiguration options, go to keyboard, then select Cingular out of the list
I had to do the same thing on schaps with my 8525
heheheh...this is post # 69 for me!

intrglctcrevfnk said:
go to programs\advanced config (or system tools, cant remember)
Find advancedconfiguration options, go to keyboard, then select Cingular out of the list
I had to do the same thing on schaps with my 8525
heheheh...this is post # 69 for me!
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are you talking about system tools\ htc custom?
it's already on Cingular
Also, anyone know how to get rid/change the second startup screen (Blue and Green with Windows Mobile)

Whoa, subject hijack...
...oh well, not to worry.
Anyway, in response to gwtx2, I might want to go back because some little thing I need might not work, and I might require some T-Mobile support, I'm sure they'll not touch a phone thats been reflashed with unofficial fw.
Also T-Mobile might release an official WM6 Hermes upgrade too.
Besides, have you never heard of this 'take backups = a good thing' thing?
Besides, it must be relatively easy, how else would all these custom hermes firmwares be built from?
How do these guys do it?
Thx
Stu

sorry .. didn't mean to hijack

Upgrade process.
gwtx2 et al.
Many thanks for pointing me towards MrVanx's Hermes Guide site.
Are you sure its fine to be using the VP3G firmware for my phone given it was derived from and is in general use with a US model AT&T 8525 (A hermes 100)?
My phone is a UK model T-Mobile MDA Vario II (A hermes 300)? Thats three differences I see (Country, operator firmware, hardware revision)!
Although MrVanx guide says the Vario II is suitable on the first page, I'm thinking its worth going for a different ROM derived from the Vario II for luck.
If I choose to go with another that was derived from the HTC official one, I'm presuming the general instructions are the same then?
eg.
#1 take down settings and xfer files.
#2 reflash HardSPL bootloader
#3 reflash radio version
#4 reflash ROM.
#5 restore settings & apps.
Am I right?
Many thanks again.

Done some stuff!
Hi all again.
Right, I've been perhaps too brave for my own good, but it turned out well!
I've installed HardSPL 2.10.Olipro on my phone, plus I've gone the whole hog and picked a very up to date radio version 1.54.00.10, I think it was originally ripped from a french firmware, I figured a Euro fw would be best suited for my UK model Hermes.
I was right I think - I now see a good fast T-Mobile home webpage, and sites load pretty good once it finds it. I also tried YouTube on TCPMP player, that seems quicker but I couldn't be totally sure.
One point I should note - When running the RUUWrapper app, AutoDetect flashed up a YES NO question on the PDA screen to accept running the program. Problem is I didn't catch it in time, so instead it threw up an autodetect error. Now after closing RUUWrapper and re-running it, it never throws up the YES NO question any more in any radio flasher (even after rebooting the PDA and the PC)! Instead I had to choose the HardSPL tickbox and the SPL 2.02/2.10 fourth option down, to continue. Slightly concerning but it worked.
Now all I need to do is up to a WM6 firmware when I choose one, it's gone well so far so my luck is bound to change!
QUESTION PLEASE-
Does anybody know the T-Mobile UK 3G Cellular Line access point password? I know the username but would need to fill in the pwd. The username is t-mobile but the pwd is ****** and wont copy paste of course! Its in the bit where you see the access point address - general.t-mobile.uk.
Many thanks to all for helping me this far.
Stu

Heliosphan said:
gwtx2 et al.
Many thanks for pointing me towards MrVanx's Hermes Guide site.
Are you sure its fine to be using the VP3G firmware for my phone given it was derived from and is in general use with a US model AT&T 8525 (A hermes 100)?
My phone is a UK model T-Mobile MDA Vario II (A hermes 300)? Thats three differences I see (Country, operator firmware, hardware revision)!
Although MrVanx guide says the Vario II is suitable on the first page, I'm thinking its worth going for a different ROM derived from the Vario II for luck.
If I choose to go with another that was derived from the HTC official one, I'm presuming the general instructions are the same then?
eg.
#1 take down settings and xfer files.
#2 reflash HardSPL bootloader
#3 reflash radio version
#4 reflash ROM.
#5 restore settings & apps.
Am I right?
Many thanks again.
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The general answer to the first part is it doesn't really matter which provider gave you your Hermes as long as it is one. (Actually, there are some differences between Hermes models but honestly don't worry about that for now.)
Don't worry about going for a ROM that's derived from T-Mob. Basically, all the different network providers get given the latest working versions of Windows Mobile from time to time for them to either check and have a play with or to customise and release as an upgrade or in the newest issues of their phones (or as a download for current users).
My Hermes is Orange UK (i.e. SPV M3100) but I've ended up at various times having WM6 versions derived rom AT&T, T-MOb, HTC et al. The only thing that matters is that it's Windows Mobile for the Hermes.
As to going back to WM5, I think it's worth having the original ROM about. If you search around the Hermes Wiki (I'd do it but it's late and I honestly can't be bothered, soz!) you'll find a list of original ROMs available for download. Note your current version and go download it so it's there ready for you to pit back on should you ever want to. (Warranty-claim time can be a good time for that.)
I'd suggest the following as a routine, myself:
1. Note down any details you might need later such as ROM version etc. Anything that comes up briefly after soft-reset or in Device Info and About in settings and any network setting for acessing GPRS or 3G etc.
2. Download the OliPro bootloader and install. The reason for this is to protect yourself as much as possible against problems.*
3. Have a gander at all the current cooked ROMs. I'd advise initially going for a lightish version as you can always add to it with cab files for your preferred extra bits.
4. Don't go for the Kitchens yet. It's best to mess with installing ROMs before trying to make one. The people eho run the kitchen threads, and the people who wrote the tools they use, have all worked very hard on making it possible for people who don't know much to make their own version of WM6 easily. It's easy but do it later.
5. Radio is absolutely optional and in most cases not very unnecessary. Like everyone else, I always want the latest of everything just in case there's a tiny, incremental improvement but if you have no problems with reception or internet access then worry about that last, if ever. Not every radio version is 'better' than the previous. The most recent version always has the highest version number obviously, but new versions are often brought out to deal with issues in a particular geographical area (usually country-specific AND network-specific, though it may or may not be better for other users elsewhere). The latest version of radio may be better for you but it might be worse and it might stop your internet of wifi working or something. Leave it for now if you have no issues with any kind of radio-related functions.
6. Installing your apps and settings is obviously something you'll do when the phone itself is done.
*There is another BRILLIANT touch to make sure you're extra super-safe and it's particularly easy: follow this link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing . Basically, if you keep a copy of the a ROM image (renamed to HERIMG.nbh) on your microSD card (check the wiki item for specifics) then you can flash your phone at the touch of a button (well, two butons) from there in an emergency. even if your house loses ekectrical power during the flashing process whilst it's connectedto your PC and your Hermes won't even THINK of booting with half an OS flashed to it, you can very nearly always restore the ROM by flashing from the card.
It's all dead simple one you get into it, it's just a tad worrying before you start to take a scalpel to a new toy you just paid good money for.
You'll be fine mate.

Aha! Your success story must've appeared whilst I was busy typing!
Nice one. Ah well!

WOOOHOOO! I'm on WM6!!!
Many thanks chunkymunky for all your comments, its nice to know some fellow brits are on here too. Which phone do you have?
Its also nice to know that any hermes ROM will work on my phone, and I'm definitely going to have a go at this SD card reflash at some point now I'm gaining confidence in reflashing. Having said that, I have an old HTC Blue Angel (Orange SPV something) and that used to occasionally crash and do a full hard reset, erasing everything. My hermes has never done that so SD reflashing could be moot.
As it goes I'd like to share my experiences - late last night I flashed my Vario II with Fun_Keys 1.5.2 thats based on the 3.62 WM6 ROM. It reflashed fine, and I am utterly over the moon!!!! My phone has been reborn into something far better, faster in lots of areas. T-Mobile UK be damned for not releasing an official WM6 upgrade (yet) because WM6 is noticeably faster, looks really great with the shiny black theme. etc etc etc.
And because of all the work the ROM authors have done, I now get full on HSDPA access on my phone, I get the H icon on the top bar and everything! I know the H Icon being present now doesnt mean that I didn't get HSDPA before on my original WM5 firmware, but I'm pretty sure it is muchos faster.
Besides, a while back, a guy on T-Mobile UK tech support said I'd only get HSDPA when using my phone as a modem for a laptop, not via PocketIE on the phone itself. That made me feel I'd been a bit ripped off.
Oh and TCPMP with FlashVideoBundle works fine too and the phone downs YT Videos really quickly. I don't even have a serious problem with the ATI Imageon stuffs.
I'd like to mention that after a good while using radio versio 1.54.00.10 that it works fantastically on a UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II. HSDPA access included. Not unexpected since it was on 1.05.05.00!!!
Also TomTom works fine with two different bluetooth GPS receivers I have. WM6 has granted me access to the 'External GPS' option in the control panel I was missing originally (bloody operator firmware!) - as a result Google Maps can now use my GPS too!!!
As a techie by profession, I'm also loving all the extra tools Fun_Keys put on, like the advanced configuration tool, the task manager, regedit etc.
Countless other advantages I've gained has basically brought my phone a new lease of life, now I definitely dont plan to upgrade to a newer phone any time soon.
Who would have thought such a simple thing would bring such happiness!
The only disappointment was with having to up to ActiveSync 4.5 which killed my partnerships! No biggie, and nothing to do with WM6.
a big Thank You to the XDA Developers forum in general for your tireless efforts.
Stu

every time i tried to update the rom or radio i've got the
260 error...why is that?...i have a htc mda basic t-mobile...and its sim locked to austria....can somebody tell me how to unlock it?

Hi all....
1st.. dont flash any full stock ROM cause it includes SPL and radio those (most important radio) are the first thing to brick a device...
2nd.. many times i flash back to wm6 just to test the performance, is ok but you must to stripp the stock rom and guess what?... is hard... so i suggest if you all want to go back to wm6 use the stripped att stock rom

WOW....that was wierd!!!

My Dash has been running WM6.1 080408 Final For Excalibur WWE with English - By Kavana without any issues for months. Then rather spontaneously I was unable to access some of the settings and would get a message saying the settings couldn't be opened. So I re-installed the ROM. It fixed the settings access, but only for a couple of days and it went back to not being able to access the settings. I searched the forum and found one thread that recommended deleting a registry folder, which I did without luck. Any ideas? I am presuming that this is a software issue rather than a hardware issue.
Thanks in advance.

Why don't you try switching to another ROM? Mabye this one; |ROM||WWE|| ** EnergyROM Series 1.0 21040 - HTC Snap based ROM ** || Build 50909 |

Thanks Bigmannyjr, but that ROM looks like it is still owrking out the bugs. I need something that is solid now.

you wouldnt by chabne be doing a restore using sprite backup would you? sprite backup while being a good restore program, has done things like this to me too after i switched to WM 6.1.
On a side note.... BOOMER!
sorry for the plug.

Actually was using Sprite, but did not re-install after the second ROM update so I don't think we can consider it related to Sprite.
SOONER!!