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I have just bought a T-Mobile UK MDA III and I think my whole package is out of date..
I need a ROM update, and if possible an OS update. But I dont know how and where to find either..
I called T-Mobile, but they seemed LESS clued up than me. Can ANYONE help me out... perhaps get me the files I need to do this.
Bearing in mind that I am a TOTAL phone novice..
My Details are as follows... (I couldnt select my phone from the profile set up)
ROM version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date: 08/05/04
Radio version : 1.00.00
Protocol version : 1337.30
ExtROM version : 1.06.160 ENG
O/S Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
So, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!
sekou0 said:
I have just bought a T-Mobile UK MDA III and I think my whole package is out of date..
I need a ROM update, and if possible an OS update. But I dont know how and where to find either..
I called T-Mobile, but they seemed LESS clued up than me. Can ANYONE help me out... perhaps get me the files I need to do this.
Bearing in mind that I am a TOTAL phone novice..
My Details are as follows... (I couldnt select my phone from the profile set up)
ROM version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date: 08/05/04
Radio version : 1.00.00
Protocol version : 1337.30
ExtROM version : 1.06.160 ENG
O/S Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
So, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!
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Don't get upset but you really should read the site a bit more before posting such a thread.
Everything you need to know is right here if only some of you guys would search and have a read first.
To take the edge of the above lol here is where everything you need to know is read carefully before attempting anything you can damage your device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
Good Luck
Guys
I am on my knees genuflecting wildly..
thanks very much... and I am in NO WAY upset infact I was beginning to think it was my own stupidity as to why I couldnt find it..
But to be honest... I have searched alot.. reading loads of threads that didnt quite say what I needed..
But anyways... thanks ALOT for the pointer
CarlnAdele said:
Don't get upset but you really should read the site a bit more before posting such a thread.
Everything you need to know is right here if only some of you guys would search and have a read first.
To take the edge of the above lol here is where everything you need to know is read carefully before attempting anything you can damage your device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
Good Luck
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Hi again..
HELP!! I must be really dense.. I am not sure how I managed to procreate..
But I've downloaded the /O2_UK_XDAIIs_WWE_13100_139_10600_SHIP/ file.. and I've applied the changes as per http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_GettingStarted
Now before I actually RUN this against my working phone, I am wondering, if as well as upgrading the windows operating system, will it change my phone from a look and feel t-mobile environment to a O2 one??
Am I right in thinkng that the extended rom is the O2/T-Mobile specific programs??
Basically I am looking for My T-Mobile with the latest microsoft windows OS..
THanks for your patience and help
You're going to have to put in a bit of time and effort to get what you want.
The update has three parts, Base OS, ExtROM and Radio ROM.
The first and last will be OK, but the ExtROM is customised for each provider (ie O2, Orange etc).
It might be best unlocking your ExtROM (search for how), and save it. Work out what is OK, what needs updating and what is operator customisation. assemble a set of CAB files that match all the criteria for your phone and T-Mobile.
Replace the ExtROM with the files you have assembled and then update the base OS and radio ROMs, leaving the ExtROM as you have just altered it.
When the upgrade is finished a hard reset will run your new ExtROM with specific T-Mobile customisations you have gathered.
Although I didn't need to change the Base OS and Radio ROMs, I did manage to convert an XDA IIs to an SPV M2000 by altering the ExtROM, so the method works.
Richard
THANKS
Thanks guys..
I finally got it updated to 1.40 no less
Thanks for the pointers and the help..
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sekou0 said:
Thanks guys..
I finally got it updated to 1.40 no less
Thanks for the pointers and the help..
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and dont just stop there.....
post some feedback on how the unit works now with the new rom....
help others by posting your feedback, your challenges etc.
Hi, I'm thinking about upgrading my MDAIII cos I'll probably die/kill myself before tmobile does anything about it :evil:
What did you end up with in your external ROM to keep all the tmobile gubbins. And did it work the same as before?
The tmobile stuff might not be great but don't know what the phone would be like without it.
Also any chance of you zipping up your ext rom and putting it on the ftp?
Upgrading T-Mobile Roms
A word of warning - be careful if you use the Blackberry (Insant Email) Service with T-Mobile UK, as it has been reported that it will not work with any radio higher than 1.06.
Good luck with upgrading and please post back for us less brave MDA III owners
No worries about Blackberry here. I would remove it anyway more than likely if doing a ROM upgrade as its not doing anything for me other than taking up space.
Sure..
I am decorating the house at the moment... But I will zip up my existing ext rom this weekend.. and I;ll let you know whats working...
Theres a generic 1.40 rom floating around on this site.. when I got theres a ext rom with that... and all I did was take the T-Mob cabs from my existing rom and dropped them in the ext rom directory..
But I will take my existing ext rom from my phone and zip that up for you..
so far everything is working... havent had any real problems with the phone SO FAR!!
nacatomi said:
Hi, I'm thinking about upgrading my MDAIII cos I'll probably die/kill myself before tmobile does anything about it :evil:
What did you end up with in your external ROM to keep all the tmobile gubbins. And did it work the same as before?
The tmobile stuff might not be great but don't know what the phone would be like without it.
Also any chance of you zipping up your ext rom and putting it on the ftp?
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Hi,
did you get chance to upload the ROM yet? I've had a look round on the ftp and can't find it. Don't mean to be an a*?e chasing you if you haven't had time yet, just wondering if its me being stupid not being able to find it :?
Dude!
I am really sorry it took so long, I have had a really bad week..
Well the good news is that I have just zipped my external rom for you.. but for some reason I cant upload it to the ftp site.. (mind you I am not entirely sure where to put it)
It comes in at 12MB so I cant email it.. so the alternatives to me finding it is you giving me an msn messenger Id and I could send it from there..
i will continue to look to find a way to upload it..
nacatomi said:
Hi,
did you get chance to upload the ROM yet? I've had a look round on the ftp and can't find it. Don't mean to be an a*?e chasing you if you haven't had time yet, just wondering if its me being stupid not being able to find it :?
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happy days...
I just uploaded it to xdaupload.. stupid me was using xda.. duh!!
theres a winzip file TMobile_UK_Cooked_Extended_ROM_sekou0.zip
thats my current external rom.. with the tmobile bits included...
let me know if you need anything else...
nacatomi said:
Hi,
did you get chance to upload the ROM yet? I've had a look round on the ftp and can't find it. Don't mean to be an a*?e chasing you if you haven't had time yet, just wondering if its me being stupid not being able to find it :?
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Hi all, my new BA arrived finally! I have decided to keep it afterall. I am a total n00b at this stuff, and really struggle to understand the Wiki site. However, I did manage to download XDA tools and backup my ROM.
I then downloaded the PDA2k_WWE_14000_176_11200 ROM from the FTP site. It said it was going to update my Radio and Ext. ROM too. Anyhow, it comes up with the country code error.
I added that line of script into the file but it still has the error. Any ideas? I thought the iMate 1.40 ROM was supposed to work on the XDA2s.
I really want a more stable device. Are there any other ways to do this? I tried using XDA Tools to upload the NK part of the iMate ROM separately, but it said it needed to be an exact size to work.
What is the best ROM? We couldn't even figure out how to cook and Ext. ROM so if anyone could give me a hand it would be much appreciated. The Wiki assumes you know what you're doing but I really have no idea.
Cheers guys - Mike x
You don't need to use XDA Tools it you're using a standard manufacturers ROM, just the No ID program for the device ID shortcut.
I had to add the country code ID in too, but after that it was golden. Not sure what's up with you...
Chris
If you are on O2 UK and want the imate ROM that also has O2 settings for GPRS, MMS etc, have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24000&highlight=
It's a set of instructions that I made using the wiki, as well as info other members had given me, particularly mdaIIIuser to upgrade a UK O2 XDA IIs to the imate 1.40 without having to enter GPRS settings etc manually afterwards, and still keeping the country code to O2 (which means you can use an official O2 upgrade later , without any problems, if they ever get their arses in gear!)
If you need any more help, let me know and I'll do what I can. If you have an ftp site you want me to upload my upgrade files to, PM me with the details and I'll send it you. I'd put in on the ftp here, but i don't think it's worth taking up so much space with a customised ROM.
HTH,
Fin
OK guys, I managed to upgrade my device to the latest iMate ROM, and the 1.13 radio ROM
Problem now is cooking my Ext. ROM. I know I can't update the Ext. ROM that came with the iMate ROM. I want to put my 02 settings in, but I really don't know how. It won't let me put my old 02 image back on the phone, it says the USB is not connected properly
Does anyone have the .nb1 of the 02 Ext. ROM?
Sack that. I downloaded the newest 02 Rom I could find and extracted just the ext. Rom file from the .exe
I am learning
which o2 rom did you use? if it was the uk rom you will have problems as it is 1.31 and your rom is 1.40. you need to unlock the extended rom and copy the base rom 1.40*147 then add your o2 cabs and anything else
hth
fin
Hey thanks Findus, your guide was great.
Yea, I put the 02 1.3 extended ROM on. I didn't know what else to do.
Do you mean the base extended ROM of the iMate 1.40 ROM I put on? I tried that, and there is no Config.txt in the iMate extended ROM.
Sorry, I don't understand this too well
Hey thanks Findus, your guide was great.
Yea, I put the 02 1.3 extended ROM on. I didn't know what else to do.
Do you mean the base extended ROM of the iMate 1.40 ROM I put on? I tried that, and there is no Config.txt in the iMate extended ROM.
Sorry, I don't understand this too well
I did not do anything with upgradetools.rar but the device seems to be working fine. I haven't made a call yet as I'm cut off. Does this mean I don't have to do it?
Chers -Mike
Glad to have helped, although I can't take credit, I got all the info from thw wiki and other posts!
Have just been trying to upload my Extended ROM, it is a modified version of Cooked ERK 1.4x Base that can be found in the wiki under ERK 1.40 . This version of the EXT ROM does have a config.txt, you were probably looking at 1.40.176? All I did was add the 6/7 O2 CABS to the config.txt of the base rom, then changed the caller id cab to 1.20 from the link below:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/CAB_Files/Caller ID/IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB
You will probably have some problems with the Ext ROM you have on at the moment, because you haven't got any of the patches for 1.40 which might mean GPRS etc might be unstable.
I will try and upload my Ext ROM again later if you want, all you will need to do is unlock your ext rom, delete the files, and copy over the new files. DO a hard reset and you're away!
Good luck!
Fin
OK, I don't understand.
I just delete all the files (aside from the 02 setup ones) of my current ROM and put these ones in? I don't need to upgrade the Ext. ROM bith the BAUpdate thing?
No, you won't use the BA Upgrade itility- that is for reflashing, which if you had a ms_.nbf file(extended ROM installation file) you would need. There is no tool to edit ms_.nbf files on Blue Angel, instead you have to unlock the Ext ROM manually, copy/delete files, update the config.txt then do a hard reset. Takes some getting used to- I was used to using er2003edit with my Himalaya to make a custom ms_.nbf file, but hey, this method works too!
Good luck,
Fin
Hey man, I already did it! Well good! It's based on the Qtek ROM you reccommended with the o2 stuff added in and the caller ID updated.
now running:
ROM version: iMate 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/10.05
Radio version: 1.13,00
Protocal version: 1337.42
ExtROM: 1.40.147 based on the Qtek cooked for use on 02 UK
My phone hasn't required a single hard reset all day and is still recieving calls (with sound) and messages
Thanks everyone!
-Mike
Hi
I am about to get an XDAIIs to replace my falling apart PDA2K.
I want to use it on Vodafone.
Is there a real 'idiots' guide to putting the latest and greatest ROM onto the XDAIIs.
(I really do mean idiots guide by the way).
Cheers.
Robin
Hi All,
I have looked all over the place but i can not find any rom updates for the Vodafone V1620 (PH20B2) Device - can anyone point me the the right place.
I have tested various files but i just keep getting errors and i don't want to make a paper weight out of my PDA just yet.
My PDA also has the qwerty keyboard for info.
Looking forward to a responce. Thanx in advance.
Pedro Goncalves said:
Hi All,
I have looked all over the place but i can not find any rom updates for the Vodafone V1620 (PH20B2) Device - can anyone point me the the right place.
I have tested various files but i just keep getting errors and i don't want to make a paper weight out of my PDA just yet.
My PDA also has the qwerty keyboard for info.
Looking forward to a responce. Thanx in advance.
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have read this ???
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
because this is a German ROM "CE Rom 1.40.01" Does it mean that the operation system will be in German? if so is it possiable to get an english version.
Thanx for your help.
because this is a German ROM "CE Rom 1.40.01" Does it mean that the operation system will be in German? if so is it possiable to get an english version.
Thanx for your help.
I'm getting ERROR 120: Country ID ERROR 44-44-45-45 with "gm_vodade_14001_206_11300_ship.exe" if it helps.
hanx for your help in advance.
Pedro Goncalves said:
I'm getting ERROR 120: Country ID ERROR 44-44-45-45 with "gm_vodade_14001_206_11300_ship.exe" if it helps.
hanx for your help in advance.
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used this tools
http://semrawut.net/indra9110/mda_ROM/upgrageNoId/UpgradeNoId.rar
put all the file: ms_.nbf/nk.nbf/radio_.nbf on that folder and put your BA to Bootloader and makesure activesync not active ... and then just start upgrade....
I'm getting ERROR 120: Country ID ERROR 44-44-45-45 with "gm_vodade_14001_206_11300_ship.exe" if it helps.
hanx for your help in advance.
Pedro Goncalves said:
Hi All,
I have looked all over the place but i can not find any rom updates for the Vodafone V1620 (PH20B2) Device - can anyone point me the the right place.
I have tested various files but i just keep getting errors and i don't want to make a paper weight out of my PDA just yet.
My PDA also has the qwerty keyboard for info.
Looking forward to a responce. Thanx in advance.
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Hi Pedro
If you ever get a solution that works PLEASE let me know.
I have one of these devices as well and the bloody thing keeps slipping into 'divert all calls' without any input from me.
Also poor Blue Tooth sound is REALLY annoying.
Robin
Hi indra9110,
I now get an error 123: Radio Image File Checksum Error.
Vodafone are bloody useless.
I have just spent 27 minutes on the phone with Vodafone trying to persuade them that they actually sell this phone and should support it.
The latest they have suggested is that they will replace my V1620 with a Qtec 9090!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a waste of time and effort....
Robin
I did the same when they gave us the qtek 2020i, we had so many issues with the devices so they gave us these new ones and basically told us that there is no support available for it.
They will just keep replacing them then i guess.
Pedro,
Trying to help, but really confused...
You're in the UK, so I assume you got your V1620 from them. I'd never heard of that, so I typed it in their web search engine and it comes up with... nothing...
You list your device as a PH20B2. That's what I've got, and it's a Blue Angel, so replacing it with a QTek9090 is pointless as it's the same thing!
VF UK did rebadge the Blue Angel (aka QTek 9090) as the VPx, starting sometime around a year ago, but only users who berated their lack of a PDA strategy seemed to get one. As you can see, it still has never made their website, comes up as unknown.
For your info, if you go to the xda-developers Blue Angel site, use the QTek 9090 1.40 WWE ROM (which includes the 1.12 radio). I can confirm that that worked on my PH20B2.
One quirk I'll also alert you to is unlocking. First, check that your unit is indeed simlocked, as some weren't. Second, "maimach's" universal unlock code works with PH20B1's but not the (seemingly rarer) PH20B2's.
FYI - I'm having some difficulty with the 1.13 ROM update, but that's a minor irritation, and probably something I'm doing wrong.
Hope this helps.
br
Well I have a Vodafone box with Vodafone labels all over it and all the details say it is a V1620.
As did the brochure.
But talking to anyone at Vodaphone about it is a total waste of time.
The problem is I am not savy when it comes to these updates.
I need something REALLY simple that says 'install this' and it will all work.
I have not seen that yet for my device.
Oh it IS simlocked to Vodafone but I don't care as I am ON vodafone.
Robin
OK, first port of call is:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade
Have a good read of the how to's... print 'em...
I selected the Qtek 1.40.147 download, as recommended by 'jbn' who gave me the confidence to do it (top bloke).
Just follow the instructions...
Make sure you back up everythin before you start as it wipes the PDA.
Also, write down the Vodafone GPRS/CSD settings etc. Saves a call to VF helpdesk...
Takes 10 mins. Well worthwhile...
Any yes, Vodafone UK did release a device they don't understand, are too afraid to market mainstream, don't have anyone to support, and don't provide updates... There's no sign of a specialist internal tech group, despite months of trying. Something to remember when your contract is up.
I'm not bitter, but I was a little bent out of shape till I discovered this site! Now I'm OK.
br
I GOT IT SORTED OUT :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'LL POST IT WHEN I GET A LITTLE TIME I'M CREATING THE STEP BY STEP NOTES FOR IT.
Pedro,
Nice job. Before you go set the thing up just so, try and add the Radio 1.13 ROM, as it requires a hard reset. That will save you wasted time. Let me know how you get on. br
Okay have not done Radio 1.13 ROM yet oops, need to look into it.
Thanx for the reminder - any ideas on how to add it on it's own or do i have to do the whole process again?
You can just add it on its own - as in the Wiki link I sent you. I have not done this yet, as I made the mistake of putting everything back as I liked it after the 1.40, then realised the Radio ROM required a hard reset. Planning unfortunately really was the last phase of implementation!
br + good upgrading.
Thanks bossye....
There seems to be no plan by Vodafone to upgrade the VPx or V1620. Development of WM2003 does not have much priority compared with WM5 and there is precious little chance of them providing such an image for these models. Personally I am not yet convinced that we are missing anything there.
As noted, although these are the PH20B2 and differ slightly from other models that are more widely supported on this site (for example the SP unlocker does not at time of writing handle this model, but you can always ask), the generic images for iMate PDA2K and Qtek 9090 seem to be reasonably OK. I have tried both and currently run the PDA2K image. However I did not bother with the radio upgrade. I would only be interested in solving the problem of echo when used with Bluetooth car kits and this is not solved with that upgrade according to most users.
Pedro, the upgrade steps are documented in Wiki, including the use of the MaUpgradeUt_NoID.exe. This may save you some writing.
Hope this helps.
i can't upgrade the Radio 1.13 ROM or anything now it's not accepting anything, it just says congratulations and do a hard reset but everything remains the same.
i'm just a newbie with HTC. i do know a lot about Symbian phones specially Nokia models. I just purchased a XDA II mini, and i've heard i cut put applications, tools and games with it as well.
i'm already collecting stuff for that. then, i encounter that I could also upgrade, WWE, Radio and Extended ROM.
i have no idea on that, can some1 explain me how this things works... pls. pls. pls... thanx
i have download some ROM, and Radio. i've used it following instructions listed on the site. and have seen my new XDA being updated. but i don't have an extended ROM????? how to install one??? tnx again and more power to all...
The Radio ROM is responsible for your normal GSM function (it doesn't handles WiFi). It is like the firmware of your normal (say) Nokia (non-symbian) phone. I think you need to specifically upgrade the Radio seperately (e.g. not included in ROM package). Some say that upgrading the Radio will improve things such as phone related speed and reception quality.
A ROM usually comes in a package (that is, it includes Ext-ROM). Depending on how you upgrade your ROM, you probably already upgraded your Ext-ROM as well. Probably that's why you didn't see Ext-ROM to be downloaded. However, there are user forged ExtRom that suppose to have all the goodies in it, such that, every time you perform a hard reset, you do not need to seperately install your favourite/essential software.
The Ext-ROM is the area that phone-operators put their customized stuff in. Example, both operators O2 and T-Mobile may have the same ROM for their respective HTC-Magician model, but they surely have different Ext-ROM. This Ext-ROM determines how the phone looks like what the operator wants it to be (e.g. theme and colour of O2, GSM related settings, GPRS settings).
If your phone (or the ROM you upgraded) is from the same operator (e.g. O2, T-mobile) or distribtor (e.g. Qtek, iMate), you may not see much of a difference as both Ext-ROM may actually have the same packaging.
Tell us how you upgrade your unit and we may able to tell you if you already Ext rom upgraded.
WWE is World Wrestling Entertainment which...
Seriously, WWE is a code that shows you which region the particular ROM is for. WWE is for World Wide English (I think) which is generally the default for most phone. However, if you like, you can get other region ROM to installed on your device (make sure they are compatible). You can basically guess that region they are from by guessing these code (you can find - but difficult - them on the web), e.g. Italian ones might be ITY, Spanish on might be SPN, etc.
Big thanx...
thanx thanx for the reply.. for the efort... and much mor for the time...
anywys like your meaning of WWE! hehe.. but i do understand that already as some indications of language/region settings of the ROM package.
i'm having problem with EXT-Rom because, after flashing, when i check Device information, it says about my ROM version, my RADIO version, but my EXT-ROM is blank. i downloaded the package ROM from this site. the 1.12 package for magician, have downloaded also the separate Radio package (1.13), but the ROM package doesn't seem to install the EXT-ROM.
i tried downloading EXT-ROM on separate folder of the FTP, but as i cud see it is not like the ROM files and Radio Files that comes in package. the 2 EXT-ROM i downloaded was a chunk of CAB files and ZIP/RAR files... i was wondering if i should copy all of them to my XDA and manually install..
is there a built in package EXT-ROM??? or is there a program that automatically install them???
again thanxs so much... hopefully when i fully understand the XDA world i could contribute and share my stuff... thanx to the group! =)
Your unit runs on W2003 while mine runs on WM5. So, I can't really give details on your missing ExtRom.
However, yes, ExtRom usually comes with a bunch of CAB files and come XML or config files. What you need to do is, try to search for unlocking Ext rom in this forum or the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ to check on how to unlock the ext rom.
As for magician, there is a thing called Big Storage, which seems to handle ExtRom differently. I don't have the details, someone with a Magician big storage may able to help you on this. Anyway, check to see if your ROM is a big storage enabled version. If it is, it should be very obvious (stated on the page/rom somewhere) as this big storage thing is a hit in Magician. You may have to treat the one with/without big storage enabled one differently.
Anyway, advise is, look for the unlock ext-rom for Magician. Follow the instructions carefully (though ext rom fiddling is usually non fatal), and see if can have it unlocked. You should then have a seperate 'partition' or folder that you can write on normally. Just copy everything into the 'partition' and you had your very own ext-rom. That's why extrom looks different than the ROM itself.
thanx thanx again..
yup i did download one of the big storage rom in the xda-developers ftp site with ver 1.12
i did flash that to my phone, and always get Ext-Rom error to my device... ROM and Radio is ok, but EXt ROM is a failure.. anyways, following your advice i downloade a separate Ext-ROM files and hit the autoconfig, and from there everything was ok.... =)
you did mention that your device runs WM2005, and mine 2003... is it possible to upgrade that as well??? is there a tool to do that??? and is that different from the ROM files to upgrade the device???
---(having problems) for the last 2 days, i can't access the FTP folder of xda-developers... "page can't be displayed", r we experiencing problem with the site??? can u pls post a link on how to access it directly??? same with wiki.xda-developers...
BIG Thanx! =)
Big storage version may not have ExtRom, probably that's why you are having problems with it. Anyway, the method you've done is just simply installing the Ext Rom stuff into your device. Upon the next hard reset, you have to reinstall the ExtRom stuff again manually (as oppose to if you have Ext Rom, the stuff will be install automatically upon hardreset). But I guess since you don't hardreset it everyday, it is the same.
No. Repeat. NO. you can't upgrade your device to WM5. It has been well proven that Magician cannot be upgrade to WM5. And do not try to install ROM from other devices (e.g. Charmer) which looks very similiar to Magician. They are different in hardware and hence the ROMs are not compatible. And you may kill your device. So, repeat again, do not attempt to upgrade your Magician to WM5. You can always stay here and read new threads. WM5 in Magician is a superb news that if there is a possibility, it will be a hit in this forum.
BTW, on the bright side, you can see that Magician is a better device than Charmer although the latter runs WM5. Magician is superb in almost all the tasks given. Take a look at this thread to see the advantages of Magician vs Charmer. So, able to run W2003 is not such a bad thing at all. Probably WM5 will slow the Magician down.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55153&highlight=
Hi all
I've taken a good long read throughout this Upgrade to WM6 subforum, I like the idea of it a lot and want to go ahead and do it, but having never re-flashed a PDA Phone before (I've done my PSP lots of times tho but thats easy in relation) I think its very difficult to find anywhere to even begin from!
Can anybody just give me a total-overall-topdown-summary-breakdown of the steps I need to perform on a fresh T-Mobile MDA Vario II. Doesn't have to be in detail, just all the basic steps required.
The forums, whilst being great for regulars seems to just confuse me the more I read them because of all the new issues raised and the individual cases on different vendor models of the Hermes.
My phone isnt a new Vario II, but I've done nothing to it except install apps, and it is showing REALLY old bootloader (I think 1.04) and radio versions (cant remember) in the system information. I'm presuming it'll require a radio upgrade at the least.
I would really appreciate a summary of everything and I think all newbies would benefit a lot.
Specific areas of confusion and concern -
-I would like to be able to grab the existing memory contents as an image off the phone just in case I choose to return to WM5 in future, and have a way of easily restoring it with no fuss. Exactly like ghosting a PC will return the whole OS, and all files and apps. Any recommendations how?
-I cant choose which custom third party WM6 ROM to use or just use HTCs official one if I should.
-I dont know if I'll still be able to use TomTom Navigator and some games plus I'm running TCPMP with the YouTube FlashVideoBundle. Will this still work?
-Should I upgrade the radio and bootloader before thinking about moving to WM6? Is there any other areas I should be flashing/rejigging before upgrading? Eg whats this about the ExtRom and gaining more space (obviously good)?
-The vendor lock on the firmware concerns me. Is there one on the UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II? Also about what I read somewhere about how disabling the lock with one of your tools might brick the phone (or am I getting confused somewhere along the line).
-As the community moves on with further developments, the divide between n00bism (me) and l33t (you) increases - case in point - kitchens??? I'm not saying though that it shouldn't happen!
Many thanks for everybodys work.
Stu
I'm basing my comments on Vp3G's ROM,
Begin by reading over
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=26
(1) MUST DO: Download and install SPL (Bootloader) version 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
(2) Optional: Download and install an updated Radio. I'm using 1.54.07.00
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697
Pick out a ROM and download it. I'm currently running vp3G's
ROM version: VP3G's v3.62
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
Install the ROM.
Study your phone, read, study your phone, read. Very soon, all of this will become second nature to you.
Heliosphan said:
Specific areas of confusion and concern -
(1) I would like to be able to grab the existing memory contents as an image off the phone just in case I choose to return to WM5 in future, and have a way of easily restoring it with no fuss. Exactly like ghosting a PC will return the whole OS, and all files and apps. Any recommendations how?
(2) I cant choose which custom third party WM6 ROM to use or just use HTCs official one if I should.
(3) I dont know if I'll still be able to use TomTom Navigator and some games plus I'm running TCPMP with the YouTube FlashVideoBundle. Will this still work?
(4) Should I upgrade the radio and bootloader before thinking about moving to WM6? Is there any other areas I should be flashing/rejigging before upgrading? Eg whats this about the ExtRom and gaining more space (obviously good)?
(5) The vendor lock on the firmware concerns me. Is there one on the UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II? Also about what I read somewhere about how disabling the lock with one of your tools might brick the phone (or am I getting confused somewhere along the line).
(6) As the community moves on with further developments, the divide between n00bism (me) and l33t (you) increases - case in point - kitchens??? I'm not saying though that it shouldn't happen!
(7) Many thanks for everybodys work.
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(1) No idea, but why would you want to return to WM5. Once you have WM6, you'll never go back. I'm sure there is probably a WM5 somewhere.
(2) I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
(3) Hit and miss. But probably.
(4) Upgrade the boot loader. Radio is optional, but I recommend it to.
(5) News to me
(6) Welcome to the world of custom, "free", ROMS. You like it or you don't. Download, support and enjoy, or move on
(7) You're Welcome
gwtx2 said:
I'm basing my comments on Vp3G's ROM,
Begin by reading over
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=26
(1) MUST DO: Download and install SPL (Bootloader) version 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
(2) Optional: Download and install an updated Radio. I'm using 1.54.07.00
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697
Pick out a ROM and download it. I'm currently running vp3G's
ROM version: VP3G's v3.62
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
Install the ROM.
Study your phone, read, study your phone, read. Very soon, all of this will become second nature to you.
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That's basically what I just did last night after getting my 8525. I did the unlock before the above tho.
pretty easy and quick.
now I need a keyboard skin that is grey... schap's version (I think it was his) does not work for me dunno why.
Wow!
Thanks guys that was lightning quick!
I'll take a proper ganders at your responses tomorrow.
Thanks
Stu
ikkoku said:
That's basically what I just did last night after getting my 8525. I did the unlock before the above tho.
pretty easy and quick.
now I need a keyboard skin that is grey... schap's version (I think it was his) does not work for me dunno why.
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go to programs\advanced config (or system tools, cant remember)
Find advancedconfiguration options, go to keyboard, then select Cingular out of the list
I had to do the same thing on schaps with my 8525
heheheh...this is post # 69 for me!
intrglctcrevfnk said:
go to programs\advanced config (or system tools, cant remember)
Find advancedconfiguration options, go to keyboard, then select Cingular out of the list
I had to do the same thing on schaps with my 8525
heheheh...this is post # 69 for me!
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are you talking about system tools\ htc custom?
it's already on Cingular
Also, anyone know how to get rid/change the second startup screen (Blue and Green with Windows Mobile)
Whoa, subject hijack...
...oh well, not to worry.
Anyway, in response to gwtx2, I might want to go back because some little thing I need might not work, and I might require some T-Mobile support, I'm sure they'll not touch a phone thats been reflashed with unofficial fw.
Also T-Mobile might release an official WM6 Hermes upgrade too.
Besides, have you never heard of this 'take backups = a good thing' thing?
Besides, it must be relatively easy, how else would all these custom hermes firmwares be built from?
How do these guys do it?
Thx
Stu
sorry .. didn't mean to hijack
Upgrade process.
gwtx2 et al.
Many thanks for pointing me towards MrVanx's Hermes Guide site.
Are you sure its fine to be using the VP3G firmware for my phone given it was derived from and is in general use with a US model AT&T 8525 (A hermes 100)?
My phone is a UK model T-Mobile MDA Vario II (A hermes 300)? Thats three differences I see (Country, operator firmware, hardware revision)!
Although MrVanx guide says the Vario II is suitable on the first page, I'm thinking its worth going for a different ROM derived from the Vario II for luck.
If I choose to go with another that was derived from the HTC official one, I'm presuming the general instructions are the same then?
eg.
#1 take down settings and xfer files.
#2 reflash HardSPL bootloader
#3 reflash radio version
#4 reflash ROM.
#5 restore settings & apps.
Am I right?
Many thanks again.
Done some stuff!
Hi all again.
Right, I've been perhaps too brave for my own good, but it turned out well!
I've installed HardSPL 2.10.Olipro on my phone, plus I've gone the whole hog and picked a very up to date radio version 1.54.00.10, I think it was originally ripped from a french firmware, I figured a Euro fw would be best suited for my UK model Hermes.
I was right I think - I now see a good fast T-Mobile home webpage, and sites load pretty good once it finds it. I also tried YouTube on TCPMP player, that seems quicker but I couldn't be totally sure.
One point I should note - When running the RUUWrapper app, AutoDetect flashed up a YES NO question on the PDA screen to accept running the program. Problem is I didn't catch it in time, so instead it threw up an autodetect error. Now after closing RUUWrapper and re-running it, it never throws up the YES NO question any more in any radio flasher (even after rebooting the PDA and the PC)! Instead I had to choose the HardSPL tickbox and the SPL 2.02/2.10 fourth option down, to continue. Slightly concerning but it worked.
Now all I need to do is up to a WM6 firmware when I choose one, it's gone well so far so my luck is bound to change!
QUESTION PLEASE-
Does anybody know the T-Mobile UK 3G Cellular Line access point password? I know the username but would need to fill in the pwd. The username is t-mobile but the pwd is ****** and wont copy paste of course! Its in the bit where you see the access point address - general.t-mobile.uk.
Many thanks to all for helping me this far.
Stu
Heliosphan said:
gwtx2 et al.
Many thanks for pointing me towards MrVanx's Hermes Guide site.
Are you sure its fine to be using the VP3G firmware for my phone given it was derived from and is in general use with a US model AT&T 8525 (A hermes 100)?
My phone is a UK model T-Mobile MDA Vario II (A hermes 300)? Thats three differences I see (Country, operator firmware, hardware revision)!
Although MrVanx guide says the Vario II is suitable on the first page, I'm thinking its worth going for a different ROM derived from the Vario II for luck.
If I choose to go with another that was derived from the HTC official one, I'm presuming the general instructions are the same then?
eg.
#1 take down settings and xfer files.
#2 reflash HardSPL bootloader
#3 reflash radio version
#4 reflash ROM.
#5 restore settings & apps.
Am I right?
Many thanks again.
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The general answer to the first part is it doesn't really matter which provider gave you your Hermes as long as it is one. (Actually, there are some differences between Hermes models but honestly don't worry about that for now.)
Don't worry about going for a ROM that's derived from T-Mob. Basically, all the different network providers get given the latest working versions of Windows Mobile from time to time for them to either check and have a play with or to customise and release as an upgrade or in the newest issues of their phones (or as a download for current users).
My Hermes is Orange UK (i.e. SPV M3100) but I've ended up at various times having WM6 versions derived rom AT&T, T-MOb, HTC et al. The only thing that matters is that it's Windows Mobile for the Hermes.
As to going back to WM5, I think it's worth having the original ROM about. If you search around the Hermes Wiki (I'd do it but it's late and I honestly can't be bothered, soz!) you'll find a list of original ROMs available for download. Note your current version and go download it so it's there ready for you to pit back on should you ever want to. (Warranty-claim time can be a good time for that.)
I'd suggest the following as a routine, myself:
1. Note down any details you might need later such as ROM version etc. Anything that comes up briefly after soft-reset or in Device Info and About in settings and any network setting for acessing GPRS or 3G etc.
2. Download the OliPro bootloader and install. The reason for this is to protect yourself as much as possible against problems.*
3. Have a gander at all the current cooked ROMs. I'd advise initially going for a lightish version as you can always add to it with cab files for your preferred extra bits.
4. Don't go for the Kitchens yet. It's best to mess with installing ROMs before trying to make one. The people eho run the kitchen threads, and the people who wrote the tools they use, have all worked very hard on making it possible for people who don't know much to make their own version of WM6 easily. It's easy but do it later.
5. Radio is absolutely optional and in most cases not very unnecessary. Like everyone else, I always want the latest of everything just in case there's a tiny, incremental improvement but if you have no problems with reception or internet access then worry about that last, if ever. Not every radio version is 'better' than the previous. The most recent version always has the highest version number obviously, but new versions are often brought out to deal with issues in a particular geographical area (usually country-specific AND network-specific, though it may or may not be better for other users elsewhere). The latest version of radio may be better for you but it might be worse and it might stop your internet of wifi working or something. Leave it for now if you have no issues with any kind of radio-related functions.
6. Installing your apps and settings is obviously something you'll do when the phone itself is done.
*There is another BRILLIANT touch to make sure you're extra super-safe and it's particularly easy: follow this link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing . Basically, if you keep a copy of the a ROM image (renamed to HERIMG.nbh) on your microSD card (check the wiki item for specifics) then you can flash your phone at the touch of a button (well, two butons) from there in an emergency. even if your house loses ekectrical power during the flashing process whilst it's connectedto your PC and your Hermes won't even THINK of booting with half an OS flashed to it, you can very nearly always restore the ROM by flashing from the card.
It's all dead simple one you get into it, it's just a tad worrying before you start to take a scalpel to a new toy you just paid good money for.
You'll be fine mate.
Aha! Your success story must've appeared whilst I was busy typing!
Nice one. Ah well!
WOOOHOOO! I'm on WM6!!!
Many thanks chunkymunky for all your comments, its nice to know some fellow brits are on here too. Which phone do you have?
Its also nice to know that any hermes ROM will work on my phone, and I'm definitely going to have a go at this SD card reflash at some point now I'm gaining confidence in reflashing. Having said that, I have an old HTC Blue Angel (Orange SPV something) and that used to occasionally crash and do a full hard reset, erasing everything. My hermes has never done that so SD reflashing could be moot.
As it goes I'd like to share my experiences - late last night I flashed my Vario II with Fun_Keys 1.5.2 thats based on the 3.62 WM6 ROM. It reflashed fine, and I am utterly over the moon!!!! My phone has been reborn into something far better, faster in lots of areas. T-Mobile UK be damned for not releasing an official WM6 upgrade (yet) because WM6 is noticeably faster, looks really great with the shiny black theme. etc etc etc.
And because of all the work the ROM authors have done, I now get full on HSDPA access on my phone, I get the H icon on the top bar and everything! I know the H Icon being present now doesnt mean that I didn't get HSDPA before on my original WM5 firmware, but I'm pretty sure it is muchos faster.
Besides, a while back, a guy on T-Mobile UK tech support said I'd only get HSDPA when using my phone as a modem for a laptop, not via PocketIE on the phone itself. That made me feel I'd been a bit ripped off.
Oh and TCPMP with FlashVideoBundle works fine too and the phone downs YT Videos really quickly. I don't even have a serious problem with the ATI Imageon stuffs.
I'd like to mention that after a good while using radio versio 1.54.00.10 that it works fantastically on a UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II. HSDPA access included. Not unexpected since it was on 1.05.05.00!!!
Also TomTom works fine with two different bluetooth GPS receivers I have. WM6 has granted me access to the 'External GPS' option in the control panel I was missing originally (bloody operator firmware!) - as a result Google Maps can now use my GPS too!!!
As a techie by profession, I'm also loving all the extra tools Fun_Keys put on, like the advanced configuration tool, the task manager, regedit etc.
Countless other advantages I've gained has basically brought my phone a new lease of life, now I definitely dont plan to upgrade to a newer phone any time soon.
Who would have thought such a simple thing would bring such happiness!
The only disappointment was with having to up to ActiveSync 4.5 which killed my partnerships! No biggie, and nothing to do with WM6.
a big Thank You to the XDA Developers forum in general for your tireless efforts.
Stu
every time i tried to update the rom or radio i've got the
260 error...why is that?...i have a htc mda basic t-mobile...and its sim locked to austria....can somebody tell me how to unlock it?
Hi all....
1st.. dont flash any full stock ROM cause it includes SPL and radio those (most important radio) are the first thing to brick a device...
2nd.. many times i flash back to wm6 just to test the performance, is ok but you must to stripp the stock rom and guess what?... is hard... so i suggest if you all want to go back to wm6 use the stripped att stock rom