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8GB MicroSDHC Card

Hi -
I purchased the 8GB MicroSDHC card from Verizon a week ago. It worked fine on my AT&T Tilt for a few days and than it lost all information! Fortunately, I was able to restore from backup, and it seems to be OK again. Here's the strange part: even though the original files and directories are gone, the card still counts them in used memory. I.e., the used memory is about 200 MB more than it should be, the amount of space I was using before the card crashed. This applies whether I check the memory on the device, connected by USB, or with the Card Adapter that came with the card.
Any ideas what might be causing this and how to recover the used memory short of reformatting the card?
Thanks!

If you could tell us what you did for it to crash it would help
You probably tried to partition it or something...?
Looks like you will have to format the whole card.
Maybe there is a simple way to do this but here is how i would do, if it helps :
- install WM5Storage on your PDA main memory
- start wm5storage with the option memory card and connect your PDA to your PC
Activsync then wont be sync'ing and your memory card will be seen from your PC as an USB-key. Open it on your PC and check to make sure it is your memory card that you see (and not your PDA main memory).
Then use whatever format tool to format your "USB key" with FAT like format, for example you can use HPtool (be carefull to format the key and not another drive !!!).
After this do not forget to turn off wm5storage, otherwise you will not be able to "see" the memory card on PDA side...
Hope it helps, let us know...

by the way maybe you could try this :
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
I've used it sometimes when i had started to format a hard drive instead of an usb key by mistake.
Windows was asking for formating everytime i wanted to open the hard drive folder. However, using this Testdisk tool, i was able to mount the hard drive and recover everything including my photos and music and stuff... Maybe you want to try this awesome tool, plus it is free and OpenSource.
Use wm5storage tool to use your PDA as an usb-key, then use Testdisk on this usb-drive, it might be able to see, list and recover all the "lost" files and heal the whole partition at same time.

Thanks for the suggestions - I'll post again when I have the chance to try them -

No luck
Had a similar problem with my Kaiser (HTC Rom). Yesterday I did something (don't know if it was memmaid - my guess, because otherwise I just installed some cabs I had previously installed in my Wizard with no problem) and my SanDisk 6 GB MicroSD was completely 'erased".
I just noticed after the Kaiser had created new folders over it (Application Data, Cookies, History and Temporary Intenet Folders). My assumption is that something destroyed my partition table (that's why I suspect memmaid, it may have cleaned something wrong) and now I have another partition over the old one.
I tried file recovery and found 1 GB good of files, but there were 5 Gigs on the card... I really wanted to find "program files" so I didn't have to re-install lots of stuff, but no luck.
Tried Testdisk as suggested above, but it never detects any partition, not even the current one. I guess I will have to reformat it and re-do all stuff.
Well, I may be saying lots of dumb stuff, but that's my guess.
Thanks if there is any possible help in this...

Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?

Guys need advise do you have to do any patch to be able to use 4-8GB mini SDHC card on your PDA?
I have a Asus P535. Have asked their support site and the reply I got is the max supported is only 4GB.

I believe I've read in more than one place that the Kaiser may support up to 32 Gig, which is the MicroSD maximum. But I may be wrong...
Fact is this has never happened with my Wizard and its 1 Gig MiniSD. Now I'm gonna increase backup and cloning so I don't have to reinstall everything...
But I'll check if there is a patch anyway. Thanks.

I am able to use Sandisk microSDHC 8GB can on Asus P535.
But need a micro adapter to miniSD

mbernstein said:
Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?
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Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -

Thanks. I tried that at the time to no avail. I did have to reformat, and then reinstall everything... Now I'm using Sprite Backup, so everything including Storage Card is backed up in case this thing happens again.
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Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -
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It could be WINXP patch
I have the Sandisk 8G , it came with a small USB reader and all was working fine. However my ASUS W5 laptop also has a built-in SD slot so I installed a patch issued by Microsoft to make it HCSD compatible, and it read and write it OK but then I suddenly got the same problem that you've described here.
The disk goes blank but the files still occupy the space, even attempting to reformat the card in the built-in slot will ignore that space,i.e it shows only 5G card.
But reformatting using the small USB card reader was fine and from now on I only use the cardreader to read and write and everything is OK. In my view the XP patch was causing that problem

Strange SD card Problem

I have been using Touch 4.02 with an 8gb card for ages now with no troubles then yesterday the storage card is no longer recognised by the phone? I tried the usual soft reset, taking the card out wiping it put it back in still no joy.
Reinstalled the sdhc cab file didnt work, Have just re-flashed with the new diamond look a like rom and still it aint recognising the card.
Has anyone got any ideas??

mikehulme1983 said:
I have been using Touch 4.02 with an 8gb card for ages now with no troubles then yesterday the storage card is no longer recognised by the phone? I tried the usual soft reset, taking the card out wiping it put it back in still no joy.
Reinstalled the sdhc cab file didnt work, Have just re-flashed with the new diamond look a like rom and still it aint recognising the card.
Has anyone got any ideas??
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Probably your card is broken....
Try to insert it in a card reader and see if it recognizes the card....

Yeh will have to wait till I get home not sure my memory card supports SDHC though?

I have a similar problem, and like you I've been happily using an 8gb card for a while, but in the last week it has stopped working correctly.
Occasionally it is fine, but most of the time access to the card is either very slow or it doesn't appear at all.
I've tried the following but with no success:
- Using another MicroSD card (2gb)
- Reading the cards in a card reader and they are fine
- Reinstalling Artemis Touch 4.02 WM6.1
- Formatting the card (FAT32)
- Shimming the MicroSD card with bits of cardboard as I've read there can be a loose fit
- Cleaning the contacts on the card reader
- Pulling the contact pins out a bit to get a better fit
Does anyone have any ideas of anything else to try?

Does WM5torage work?

I did the followings to make my 4GB Micro SD usable by my Artemis:
1-flashed it to FAT32 in my laptop (I Had to format my laptop partition D of my HDD to FAT32 to make the microSD recognizable by my NTFS system).
2-copied the "system folder" from my older 512 MGB card as it is (hidden) to the root of my 4GB
3-The 4GB is readable by my artemis by now.
4-To make sure the crad will be working good in the future, I installed the "Flashcard" Cab in my Artemis and reflashed the card to FAT32, 512 Bytes 4KB clusters.
The card is just fine under Artemis windows, but I gatta take it out when flashing any new ROMs or Radio.
Hope that'd help you.

uniqueboy said:
Does WM5torage work?
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No - WM5torage behaves the same ... i.e. occasionally works (if the phone can see the card), but most of the time it just reports an error

It is deffothe memory card just put my old 2gb back in the phone and it worked, I have tried the 8gb in my PC card reader and in y camcorder that takes sdhc and neither recognised it.
This explains why my phone started goin so slow it would take ages to do anything then the memory card was unrecognised a few days later.
Im guessing there is no way to repair these?

If you can't read it, you can't do anything...
R.I.P.... :|
Cheers

Gutted oh well

not as gutted as i am ... looks like i'll have to buy a new phone!

Just try to format it by these criteria
FAT32, 512 Bytes 4KB clusters
then let us know.

dude dont panic try to recover the card first before you format it. i am sure there are some imp data there eh?
use a disk recovery utility on ur pc
my best choice is Recover My Files http://www.recovermyfiles.com/
if you are using windows os also try to run scan disk
use pocket mechanic then on ur ppc
let us know how well u do

Sorry for posting...Wrong thread...

Format SD card though windows mobile

okay so i can not get android to run on my fuze with an 8 gig class 6 card. i have tried everything but i need to format the memory card not normally a problem but i do not have a card reader that can read micro sd and the sd adapter is not working, so i need a windows program that can format the card via windows mobile, any one have any success with anything?
-----------------------------UPDATE---------------------------------------
The HP tool in post 8 worked flawlessly it saw the micro sd as the full 8 gigs right away wiped it perfectly and formated beatifully thank you very much for your help guys hope this will help others too
*i formated my sd card by plugging it into the computer and selecting to use it as a disc drive and it was perfect
and im now running android

I had the same problem... well actually I lucked out and a coworker lent me his reader. However, I'll probably use the "Storagetools" by SoftWinter next time.
Does that help you? (Sorry I'm too new to be able to post a link...

What about plugging in your phone and using it as a mass storage device? Just as good as having a reader IMHO.

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arrrghhh said:
What about plugging in your phone and using it as a mass storage device? Just as good as having a reader IMHO.
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i cant seem to get that when i make it act as a disc drive i can only view the devices memory

jul644 said:
i cant seem to get that when i make it act as a disc drive i can only view the devices memory
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Uhm... what? The devices memory as in the SD card?!? Because if you're not using Activesync and you have it acting as a mass storage device, the ONLY thing you'll see is the card in My Computer. If you see a "Windows Mobile Device" and you can explore your entire phone (internal memory and external, SD card memory) then you're Activesync'ing.

its realy weird it is only letting me format 199mb of space and when i did it comes up as storage card and then a storage card 2 pops up saying 7400 mb (aprx) of space aviable
and the suggested program is not working (it cant format the sd card or defrag it)

jul644 said:
its realy weird it is only letting me format 199mb of space and when i did it comes up as storage card and then a storage card 2 pops up saying 7400 mb (aprx) of space aviable
and the suggested program is not working (it cant format the sd card or defrag it)
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You will need a partition editor. What seems to be happening is that your card is for some reason partitioned into two. The way to repair this is to use an editor ( QTPART in linux or Disc Utility in OSX ). Sadly I believe that windows utilizes a bit switch on the card which is preventing you from using windows to manage the cards partition table. Try using a friends mac to format the drive as 1 single partition again.
I hope this helps you some!

jul644 said:
its realy weird it is only letting me format 199mb of space and when i did it comes up as storage card and then a storage card 2 pops up saying 7400 mb (aprx) of space aviable
and the suggested program is not working (it cant format the sd card or defrag
it)
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You are definitely partitioned... I don't get how people manage to keep partitioning their cards. I *think* the HP tool to wipe cards will wipe partition tables as well, I'm not positive tho. Worth a shot if all you've got is Windows.

might be a windows thing?:S but its noo big deal the portion for me as i have it as were i put games on my sd card so its fine but whats weird is i was able to run android on this card before but now nope lol

jul644 said:
might be a windows thing?:S but its noo big deal the portion for me as i have it as were i put games on my sd card so its fine but whats weird is i was able to run android on this card before but now nope lol
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Definitely not a "Windows" thing. There may be a way to partition cards in Windows, but it certainly would not partition your card by default. Let us know if you can't get it sorted.... Either way you need to wipe the partition table and start clean with just 1 partition.

The HP tool in post 8 worked flawlessly it saw the micro sd as the full 8 gigs right away wiped it perfectly and formated beatifully thank you very much for your help guys hope this will help others too
*i formated my sd card by plugging it into the computer and selecting to use it as a disc drive and it was perfect
and im now running android

Evo evowned my sd card

So I plug my 16 gig in to format it and poof. Never even recognized it. Now nothing recognizes it, namely my previous phone.
Any way to salvage it? I tried to plug it into the pc directly but no dice. Possible that the converter card was not sdhc compatible.
Suggestions?

The card is not recognized when you plug it into the PC? Methinks it's a bunk card instead of the phone borking it.

maybe, but it was a bit too coincidental being as I have been using the card since november.

When I had that problem, I went and got the thing formatted by a digital camera and it came back to life.
It's worth trying if you have one handy at least.

GPARTED is the answer to all your formatting needs... Seriously, download it, throw it in your computer, and restart. Should boot into it.

Thanks for the great feedback. I'll let y'all know how it goes when I get back to my comp.

you might of formated it as ext instead of fat

One trick is to format the card in a camera, then back to your phone.
Also, what brand card is it? Transcend has an auto-format utility that may fix your card. Also Transcend has a lifetime warranty for flash type cards and will replace your card with a new one, you just need to start an RMA on their website and mail it in.

Installed Fresh 0.2 and was FC like mad, then finally no sd card. I then ran RUU to back to stock with no problems. Started to use mybackup and would not work. The phone reported a blank sd card, formatting failed to report any actions, not sure about this but thought something would display ie progress. Removed it and put it in my Windows7 64bit desktop and nothing, showed disk but not formatted. Put it in my Windows7 32bit Netbook and all was good. Back into phone and Astro showed everything was there, I am at a loss here but something is going on with these SD cards or the rom! Weird business this is!

download the SD Format tool?
http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/

Retiredfinally said:
Installed Fresh 0.2 and was FC like mad, then finally no sd card. I then ran RUU to back to stock with no problems. Started to use mybackup and would not work. The phone reported a blank sd card, formatting failed to report any actions, not sure about this but thought something would display ie progress. Removed it and put it in my Windows7 64bit desktop and nothing, showed disk but not formatted. Put it in my Windows7 32bit Netbook and all was good. Back into phone and Astro showed everything was there, I am at a loss here but something is going on with these SD cards or the rom! Weird business this is!
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Was this the 8GB card that came with your Evo?

It was the one that came with it. I gave my son the Hero with an 8gig thinking I was good. It is a Scandisk so figured it was ok, same as Hero anyway. I tried the SD formatter, older version I see so thanks for that update. Just weird that nothing worked until I put it in the Netbook with 32bit 7.

[Q] My 16gb card shows as 1gb after a crash in a middle of partitioning with gparted

Hello,
My rom(iNsertCoin) has crashed today for an unknown reason, and entered nonstop bootloops.
I have tried to reflash the iNsertcoin zip but it didnt work for some reason, also it told me it cant mount the sd-ext (I am using ra-desire 2.0.0).
I have turned the phone off, and when I returned home I put my A-Data 16gb Class 10 Microsd (which was bought from newegg, so it cant be fake) in my card reader, and I started to partition the card like this: 1gb ext4, 300mb ext4, 100mb linux-swap, rest to fat32.
all of a sudden the program just crashed and from that point it tells me the card has 1gb unallocated space, in windows 7 it keeps asking me to format the card but it never succeeds, and it says the card uses raw file system.
I have tried chkdsk, and it told me its not available for raw filesystems.
I have also tried a number of programs, the HP partition tool, SDFormatter, nothing really helped.
Also, I tried using diskpart -> clean all command on the card but it keeps giving me weird error messages but usually it tells me its not ready, and it looks like the card is not responsive, although the pc recongized it.
I have tried doing this from a number of computers, another W7 computer and a XP computer. nothing worked.
I cant allocate space in gparted, and it tells me to create a partition table, and when I try that, the program just hangs.
Oh yeah, and I tried to put the microsd card into an adapter and put it in my dad's dslr and tried to format it, but there was an error.
Have I killed my microsd card? :/

Are you using gparted through an ubuntu livecd? Maybe try using the disk utility (system > administration > disk utility) to format the card with a new MBR scheme.

I am having the exact problem. Have you come up with any solutions?

toan76 said:
I am having the exact problem. Have you come up with any solutions?
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Well, no.
I have sent the card to a-data for repair service and they have sent me a new card.
Anyway, slow speeds in almost any data2sd / data2ext roms still occur, so last week i have given up and got me an iPhone 4 from my carrier.

hfg666 said:
...so last week i have given up and got me an iPhone 4 from my carrier.
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Bloodflame said:
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Yeah, I couldn't believe I did that either, but I was really fed up messing around with the desire.

the same thing happend to me once, after trying to get it going(formated on sunday and needed the card) it all went straight to hell until i tried it in another cardreader on my mac and the card is still working with no problems=