How to use a second Line on SIM? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hi!
I have two phone numbers assigned to my SIM card which can be called from outside without any problem. Both numbers ring the same SIM
But how can I switch between them when doing a call? I know this feature from Sony Ericsson mobiles where I have "line 1" and "line 2". Is there an application to do that? Or is there a built-in function? I am using Schaps 3.57a Windows Mobile 6 ROM.
Thank you!

Haven't used it, but maybe this app does it?
http://www.smartphone.net/software_detail.asp?associateid=279&id=2328
Try the demo and see...

Hmmm. It seems that this software would do what I want, but if I understand it right, this is for Smartphones...
I have a HTC TyTN, so I'm not sure if it runs on my phone. I also do not really need all the other stuff, so it would be great to find a small piece of software which simply does the part of "Twin SIM Switch" of SmartTweaker.
Thank you!

isnt there something to control what line you are using from the sim menu?

I used to have a sim menu on my mobile phone but I missed it when changed to JASJAM WM5. However I upgraded to WM6 (Official Dopod) and now I have a sim menu in STK service where I could switch from one line to the other with automatical call fwd.

The only thing I have, is a SIM-Manager in Programs, which is mainly for managing SIM-contacts. There's nothing like a SIM menu :-(

I have STK Service in Programs menu and when I click on it a sim menu provided by my GSM operator starts. I have the following options in this sim menu: voicemail (operator provided), line switch, operator menu, accounts management & customer services. But contents of this menu may differ depending on your operator. Have you ever used your dual line sim card on a a Nokia phone? Have you received your dual line sim card from your operator or get it copied by a third party software by using smart card reader writers?

I do not have such a service in my programs menu. I also have to tell you, that I have a native HTC TyTN without any provider services as my provider does not sell the TyTN.
Ad copying SIM-cards: I was not aware that this is possible. I have an original SIM card from my provider.

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Dual sim/software switching??

Ok - some mobiles had option I believe(unconfirmed) that with 2 sim cards installed, a piece of software on the phone allowed switching between sim cards - saves turning them on/off - any idea if the xda has this option?
Reason being - I have a personal sim card, and now I have a work one BUT would prfer just one phne and do prefer the xda
Scott
yep
I use "wivit" sim switcher, works just fine on my xda2s, xda2 and xda2i
http://www.wivit.com/products/SSS.shtml
wivit
Wivit doesnt works on WM05
I know this is a longshot - but anyone know with this type of software if the software will tell you that a call is coming in on say on 1 sim card, so that you can then switch to that sim card???
Cheers
Scott
Very long shot - It doesn't work. Only one SIM at a time is connected. What I do is set up a divert from one to the other, so that I can always received all my calls whichever SIM is active & then simply switch to the appropriate SIM when making calls

CSP/CPHS, (Orange)Simcards and Voice Mail Indicator / Number & ALS menus

Hi
I found some discussions about problems with the Voice Mail Indicator (currently used by e.g. Orange (UK) and T-Mobile (UK)) in Windows mobile 6, and an rather "quick and dirty" solution to handle this issue by using a Windows Mobile 5 dll.
The VoiceMail indicator settings are stored in the CSP (Customer Service Profile), which is part of the CPHS, which is both found in a dedicated space on the Simcard.
The CPHS is an extension to the GSM-Standard.
For further information, please refer to:
http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/tsg_t/WG3_USIM/TSGT3_15/docs/T3-000450.zip
Now, here is the point.
Not only the Voicemail Indicator is stored in the CSP, but also the Voicemail-number and the ALS status (Alternate Line Service actived/not activated).
Now, here we come to some further issues:
If the simcard does not support CSP, the Voicemail number cannot be stored on the card, and can therefore not be used in the today-screen in Windows mobile. This issue is discussed rather often, but no solution so far.
Another problem is the AlternateLineService. While Windows Mobile for Smartphone supports this feature, Windows Mobile Premium Phone (touchscreen) does not. What would happen if one copys the refering dlls responsible for reading out CSP/CPHS from the Smartphone version? Could this enable the ALS-capability on Windows Mobile Premium Phone?
However, it would be even smarter to manually enable the ALS feature instead of letting it be controlled it by the simcard.
To use the ALS-service, it is necessary to activate this service as well on the simcard AND on the network.
A lot of orange simcards are preconfigured to use the ALS service, even though it is not activated on the network - this results in having a rather anoying Line number presented in the Win-Mobile status bar, but no possibility to switch it off!
Vice versa, it might happen that you have the service activated on the net, but not on the sim, which in that case means, that you cannot properly use it!
Therefore it would be the best to have a tool which allows enabling/disabling ALS services and storing the Voicemail number indipendend from the information stored on the simcard, like the famos tool "Logomanger" does on Nokia phones. (so called "CSP-override)
Did anybody ever get a bit deeper into this stuff?
Thanks,
Chris

unlocking second line menus (CSP-override)?

many of the recent windows mobile devices support the network feature "Alternate Line Service" ("ALS") (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_line_service) which allows to have two phonelines on one simcard.
One can easily switch between the lines with a dedicated menu, as seen here:
http://www.se-community.com/div/X1/line_change.jpg
(on a Xperia device).
The appearance of the second-line menus relies on an entry in the Customer Service Profile (CSP) of the subscriber simcard.
For instance, the menus appear when using simcards of Orange(UK) or One(AT), but not with T-Mobile or Vodafone simcards.
As some people find these menus annoying, especially when they are not subscribed to the ALS-service, they can easily remove them by setting the registry key "ShowALSPage" in HKLM/Software/OEM/PhoneSetting to "0".
Now, I have a particular problem:
I want the menus to appear even though my simcard does not have the necessary entry in the CSP. I am subscribed to the service with eplus(DE). However, this operators simcards only support a preliminary ALS-standard which was introduced in collaboration with Siemens almost ten years ago. Since Siemens mobilephones have vanished from the market, it would be nice of eplus if they would eventually update their simcards - what they still reject, unfortunately.
The eplus simcards hold the value 0x55 in the CSP, while, according to the final standard, 0x80 is expected for ALS capable sims. Till now, the only mobile phones interpreting eplus(DE) sims correctly are Siemens and the most recent Sonyericsson UIQ phones.
Other mobilephones would still work with eplus(DE)-ALS service. For instance, on Nokia phones one can easily unlock the menus using CSP-override. Some Motorola phones simply always display the menus.
Is there any way to make the ALS-menus appear on Windows Mobile 6.0 devices, like the Xperia X1?

[Q] Data features on the HTC M8 dual Sim

Dears,
Am in the process of researching/buying an HTC M8 dual SIM phone, can someone please advise if it is feasible to STOP Mobile DATA on a certain line (Ex: Line1) and ENABLE Mobile Data on the other line (Ex: Line2).
Thanks for all your help.
Regards,
H
Bad dual sim management
Better late than never, right?
You find "dual sim management" in the phone's settings.
This is where you can activate and deactivate each sim and where you set the preferred sim for mobile data.
So, yes, you can easily switch the sim that's being used for mobile data.. However, the BIG restriction is, that the sim 2 radio only supports 2G (up to EDGE). So, in order to use high speed internet from the provider whose sim is located in slot 2 you actually have to swap the sim cards. Also, there's no way to automatically switch to the other network's mobile data in case you lose mobile data coverage on the preset network . You really have to tell the phone manually which network to use.
Another big issue for me is that I can't preset the network I use for calls. So, my sim 1 is for data only. sim 2 is for voice calls and texts. Remember: it has to be this way because only sim 1 supports 3G/4G. Now, when I initiate a call via voice or via my car's bluetooth unit the phone automatically tries to use sim 1 as the default for calls. I can't set it up to use sim 2 as the default call handler and there's no dialogue asking me which sim to use like when I dial manually. That's really bad, all other companies that offer dual sim phones have better management options in their software's settings.
I tried using alternative phone apps which give you the option of choosing a default sim for calls but this only works for voice-dialing; bluetooth still overrides the alternative dialer and always goes with the stock one.
I hope this helps - so actually I'd advice agaist the M8 dual sim despite it being beautiful and having really good hardware.
digitalhug said:
Dears,
Am in the process of researching/buying an HTC M8 dual SIM phone, can someone please advise if it is feasible to STOP Mobile DATA on a certain line (Ex: Line1) and ENABLE Mobile Data on the other line (Ex: Line2).
Thanks for all your help.
Regards,
H
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Dual SIM

Thinking of getting a 5T (or maybe 6 depending on timing) and have never had a dual-SIM phone. I would have one SIM card for my U.S. Cricket account and use the other slot for a pay-as-you-go "travel SIM" for use in Europe.
So are there settings or a built-in app provided so that I can activate one card at a time? I know it's possible to have both in "standby," but that's not practical in this case since I wouldn't want one of the cards causing the phone to be searching for a tower constantly -- a real battery-killer. I also would want to be able to assign one or the other for data, etc. (The particular travel SIM I have in mind will actually work in the U.S., but then I'd be paying per call, text, and data chunk).
You can enable or disable each card independently. You can choose a default SIM for calling, messaging, and data. The built in messaging app also lets you choose what card to send from with a convenient button in the text entry field. I have attached some screenshots that show the SIM options in the settings menu. I've been using dual SIM for a few days now and find it very easy to manage. Hopefully this answered all your questions.
Perfect answer. Thanks!

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