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Lots of cooking questions, found no answer...

1) I have been examining various dumped roms and some OEMDrivers are seen as DLLs folder, whereas some Dlls are well...Dll file. How do you make the Dll file a folder?
2) can you completely remove the stock dialer and replace it with the kaiser dialer?

Answers to all your cooking questions
For all your cooking needs, check out this thread:
Mattk_r's Pandora's Kitchen
Once you go Pandora, you can't go back! (that is, until someone shows me otherwise )
Cheers!
Quakie

kin0kin said:
1) I have been examining various dumped roms and some OEMDrivers are seen as DLLs folder, whereas some Dlls are well...Dll file. How do you make the Dll file a folder?
2) can you completely remove the stock dialer and replace it with the kaiser dialer?
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yes, everything you need is in Pandora kitchen =) go and take a hammer and try different things out!

I personally prefer a chainsaw and a blowtorch , but that's just my "Quakie" side...
That being said, there's lots of rom kitchens out there, and they're all very good. Unfortunately, there's just so much to learn and only so much time.
Just read a bit here and there and pick one that suits your personality!
Have a great day!
Quakie
kazuni said:
yes, everything you need is in Pandora kitchen =) go and take a hammer and try different things out!
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[TUT]ROM for everyone (video tutorial to cook the ROM )

Hi all
I was looking for the way to cook my own ROM. There is a heaps of info for a Kiser but not a Diamond. I had decided to start a thread that will show and explain in plain language how to do it on the Diamond. The aim is to have perfectly clean ROM without any unwanted applications or tweaks. The ROM will only contain bare minimum to run PDA. Everything else can be installed with cab files. Also registry tweaks can be applied after installation.
What is more important I want this thread to be a simple to follow guide to cook a ROM so everyone can make one for themself. Since I’m not an expert I welcome any help from anyone.
I had managed to cook my 1st ROM. I had removed some applications without modifying anything else.
I have tested it and it worked ok. However you perform it on your own risk and I take no responsibility if you stuff it up. Do not remove everything at once. Remove 2-3 application and see if it works. If yyou unsure just leave it alone. When you are confident you can remove the rest of apps. Also if you want to remove Opera and TouchFlo you need to change a setup files so lets leave it for now.
You need a Kitchen and the ROM file.
Video Tutorial (rigt click and Save target as)
Extract kitchen files directly to C drive (not to desktop as shown on the screen shot)
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Extract rom files into BaseROM folder in the kitchen.
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Open !BEGIN and choose option 1
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Just follow the prompts and press ENTER when asked. When you get to screen below just wait till asked to press ENTER again. This might take a while.
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When you arrive to this screen
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your rom preparations are complete.Hit the ENTER to close window.
Go to Kitchen folder and you notice that rom files and packages are extracted.
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To remove unwanted applications from rom look into OEM and SYS folders. You need to delete all folders related to paticular application. (create separate folder and move all packages there instead deleting. Later on you can convert them to .cab files and install them if needed)
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If you have some cab files and would like to add them into the rom you will need THIS application. Just start it, make sure that Remodule option is deselected, open cab file and program will create new folder containig packagage file. Make shure that PACKAGE_Diamond_ is in front of the filename. For example if you converted TomTom cab you should rename it to PACKAGE_Diamond_TomTom. Now copy the folder to OEM folder in the kitchen. Repeat process till you add everything you would like to have in the ROM.
When you delete/add everything you want start !Cook file
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This will start OS building application. Just hit a green button and wait till it finishes. It will create os-new.nb file needed later. Close window on top (never close a DOS window) and rom building application will start.
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Fill all the info as shown on the screenshot.
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Use apropriate version rom (ie FR, ME etc...). As for the system select os-new.nb which is in the kitchen folder. Also you can select boot images and radios but for now we leave as it is. When ready hit Build ROM button.
Name your new rom (anything you want).
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And hit SAVE.
A while later you should see screen below
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Hit OK. Wait till everything finishes. Just press ENTER when asked. On the end you get message that rom is ready to flash. Hitting ENTER closes a window. All you need to do is flash it to your device.
PS Everyone is welcome to help. I need information how to update Framework and OS and where I can download it. Please post suggestions, registry tweaks and links to updated cab files for the apps removed from the rom. I will make a video tutorial after I have all info needed. I want to make easy for everyone who wants to have personalized rom.
Credits: Thank you to all who provided these great tools and these that helped in this thread.
EDIT: If you manage to create your own ROM please do not flood forum with new ROMs (unless it is something we never seen). There are experienced cooks that created really nice ROMs. Lets keep this forums clean.

There is a thread in this forum which has a simple to use kitchen. Using it is just easy as Steps 1-2-3.. But it doesn't work for some ROMs, atleast for me. By far, it is a great tool simplified in batch files.
Are you using the same tool or your own customised one?
Regards,
Carty..

lolek74 said:
Hi all
I was looking for the way to cook my own ROM. There is a heaps of info for a Kiser but not a Diamond. I had decided to start a thread that will show and explain in plain language how to do it on the Diamond. The aim is to have perfectly clean ROM without any unwanted applications or tweaks. The ROM will only contain bare minimum to run PDA. Everything else can be installed with cab files. Also registry tweaks can be applied after installation.
What is more important I want this thread to be a simple to follow guide to cook a ROM so everyone can make one for themself. Since I’m not an expert I welcome any help from anyone.
I had managed to cook my 1st ROM. I had removed some applications without modifying anything else.
I'm off to bed now. I'll post screenshots and info tomorrow. Please register your interest.
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Could do my... i just finished my one yesterday a perfect clean rom not staffed wth litter....i used the surface kitchen and based on ce 0s 5.2 20273 wwe a bit customized the manila that's all....

Is it a clean ROM with most apps removed? Do you want to share please.

Good initiative!
I really want to know what is the true performance of the Diamond, running it with just the minimum required.
Even when disabling TF3D and other extras, I find it so slow compared to other WM phones having less MHz... I just don't understand why.

Uploading my ROM now. It is slow. I will post the link tomorrow.

Just a tip, A clean rom is very good if you going to stick with what you got in the rom and possible a few otther apps by cabs, If your going to installed the same apps which are in a full rom then the clean rom with those apps in will make you lose valuable storage space rather than them cooked in and sometimes device will start to feel sluggish but it all depends on how many cabs youre going to re-install.
TIps , there are certain apps which are cooked in doesnt take up any storage space but if install by cab you will then use up valuable space.

duttythroy said:
Just a tip, A clean rom is very good if you going to stick with what you got in the rom and possible a few otther apps by cabs, If your going to installed the same apps which are in a full rom then the clean rom with those apps in will make you lose valuable storage space rather than them cooked in and sometimes device will start to feel sluggish but it all depends on how many cabs youre going to re-install.
TIps , there are certain apps which are cooked in doesnt take up any storage space but if install by cab you will then use up valuable space.
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Really? Dutty, could you please explain that a little bit further? Don't we have a set amount of storage space? i.e. If you cook some apps in, then you lose some of that space. If you add them later, you lose some of that space. But at least you could uninstall them.
So please correct me if I have misunderstood and I'm only guessing, but are you saying there is a part of the ROM that is only available to the OS 'image', and cannot be accessed in the normal way once the device is up and running? And are you using that space to install some apps? If so, how much space in the 'OS image' part of the ROM is available for that purpose? I would like to start cooking my own ROM's, but I don't want to waste ANY storage space that I am not forced to.
I would really appreciate if you could shed a little light on that for me! Cheers

Thanks, this is great.

salada2k said:
Really? Dutty, could you please explain that a little bit further? Don't we have a set amount of storage space? i.e. If you cook some apps in, then you lose some of that space. If you add them later, you lose some of that space. But at least you could uninstall them.
So please correct me if I have misunderstood and I'm only guessing, but are you saying there is a part of the ROM that is only available to the OS 'image', and cannot be accessed in the normal way once the device is up and running? And are you using that space to install some apps? If so, how much space in the 'OS image' part of the ROM is available for that purpose? I would like to start cooking my own ROM's, but I don't want to waste ANY storage space that I am not forced to.
I would really appreciate if you could shed a little light on that for me! Cheers
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bascally there some programs which ar cooked in for e.g Remote desktop, If cook this in its 1.45mb I think, I will only use up only about .45mb and save 1mb of storage space, If i install this by cab I would use up all of the 1.45mb storage space

Perfect
I was hoping/loocking fopr a thread like this! BUT
Could anybody explaine to me how to dump a rom?
The one I am using right now is pretty good and I want to modify
it and loose all the unwanted programs...
But what happens to all the .cab programs I have installed at the moment?
Do they "get dumped" as well so I can preserve them as OEM? Or do I only dump the "base ROM"?
And what about the Reg tweaks? Do they get dumbed aswell?
Thanks for the help...

bascally there some programs which ar cooked in for e.g Remote desktop, If cook this in its 1.45mb I think, I will only use up only about .45mb and save 1mb of storage space, If i install this by cab I would use up all of the 1.45mb storage space
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Thanks for the reply, so what is the reason behind that... How can that 1MB be shaved off? Is it compression?

duttythroy said:
bascally there some programs which ar cooked in for e.g Remote desktop, If cook this in its 1.45mb I think, I will only use up only about .45mb and save 1mb of storage space, If i install this by cab I would use up all of the 1.45mb storage space
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And to top this, apps that are cooked run faster than an installed cab.
But for some, a ultra light rom works becouse they have not ,uch progs to use, and need to install less cabs.
gr.

Just a short notice, lolek:
I see you've extracted the kitchen to your profile folder.
You'd better extract it to the root of your drive, like C: or D:
batch files have a tendency to disliking spaces in file/folder names as well as names longer than 8+3.

surface_rom said:
And to top this, apps that are cooked run faster than an installed cab.
But for some, a ultra light rom works becouse they have not ,uch progs to use, and need to install less cabs.
gr.
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exactly also if you look at some of the benchmarks as well the lite roms are not much better or even some of the full roms are faster, so its all about what u really need in the rom, if your going to install everything back in your rom with cabs, its better to go with a full rom

Thanks for the input. This is what I was hoping for. The aim is to have simple tutorial for anybody to create their own ROMs. I'm off to work tonight but I'll update 1st post tomorrow.

I have updated 1st post. It shows how to convert cab files to packages and add them to the rom. I apologize for the slow progress but I'm still learning myself.
I have asked around how to update framework and OS. As soon as I get reply and test it I’ll post it here.
I know there many experienced cooks so please don’t be shy and help create this guide.
When guide is complete I’ll make movie showing whole process.

lolek74 said:
I have updated 1st post. It shows how to convert cab files to packages and add them to the rom. I apologize for the slow progress but I'm still learning myself.
I have asked around how to update framework and OS. As soon as I get reply and test it I’ll post it here.
I know there many experienced cooks so please don’t be shy and help create this guide.
When guide is complete I’ll make movie showing whole process.
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very nice man, keep it up!

this is very good idea to put together a tutorial to cook the ROM! cant wait to cook my own ROM with this.
thanks a lot man!

Having a Slight problem with the surface kitchen.
During the process of extracting a rom at the stage of '2a.ExtractDumpIMGFS.cmd'
'Recmod.exe' crashes.'
anyone know why and how i can solve this?
Thanks in advance

Teach US How To Cook

All you great cooks out there is the any way you guys can get togather, and make a tutorial to teach us newer guys the method on creating our own custom work to share.

prometheus9000 said:
All you great cooks out there is the any way you guys can get togather, and make a tutorial to teach us newer guys the method on creating our own custom work to share.
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SYS:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=320656&postcount=6
XIP:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=378506&postcount=10
Best regards,
-boggsie

prometheus9000 said:
All you great cooks out there is the any way you guys can get togather, and make a tutorial to teach us newer guys the method on creating our own custom work to share.
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Sorta like these??? Start with the bottom one, and work your way up...
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Follow this link to get to my tutorials on Customizing Custom Rom's:
Creating Today Theme OEM's for your Custom Rom - Tutorial
This tutorial will allow you to include a custom Today Theme in your customized rom. Again, written to help the aspiring Chef of tommorrow!
PPCKitchen.org BuildOS Friendly!
Tutorial: Adding Registry Entries to your Rom (RGU Method)
This Tutorial will allow you to include your registry entries into your rom. I wrote this for the aspiring Chef of tomorrow! After all, Subtle Tweaks make all the Difference!
PPCKitchen.org BuildOS Friendly!
Customizing Rom Sounds - Sound Themes Tutorial
Have you ever wanted to customize the Sound Theme in your ROM? This tutorial will show you how to customize the Sounds in your Custom Rom!
PPCKitchen.org BuildOS Friendly!
Customize your StartMenu for PPCKitchen.org's - BuildOS - Tutorial
Have you ever wanted to customize the Start Menu in your ROM? This tutorial will show you how to customize the StartMenu, even those pesky ones like Help, Internet Explorer, Phone, Contacts, and Calendar that show up when you tap on the Start Menu!
PPCKitchen.org BuildOS Friendly!
Customizing Your Rom: Adding Personal Files & Other Stuff
Do you have certain files that you must have with a new flash or hard reset? Ringtones, Office templates for work, or others? Ones you can't lose if you have the dreaded "Corrupt Storage Card" issue, then this tutorial will show you how to insert your files into your rom and copy them where you want them so you will always have them!
PPCKitchen.org BuildOS Friendly!
How to Customize a Custom Rom: Adding/Removing Programs
Does your favorite Chef include files/programs that you don't use? This will show you how to delete those programs you don't use and insert the ones that you do use! (This method doesn't always work with a PPCKitchen.org custom rom).
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Thanks
Thanks for the help guys.
I will read all your guys tutorials.

Create one cab file of many different cab files

Hey guys.
I am not very into the topic cabs, but is it possible to create one cab that installs all the cabs of my favourite applications ? This would make the post-flashing process much much easier.
Thanks in advance
Tobi

Cant be done man, sorry. You cant mass install like 5 cabs in one hit. All you can do is create a cab to extract 5 cabs to a location

You can get a program to install them consecutively after one another (like Sashimi), however as luckyluke1137, that's probably not possible. If it were, WIN CE CAB Manager would be your best bet for manipulating/playing with CABs.

kareem9nba said:
You can get a program to install them consecutively after one another (like Sashimi), however as luckyluke1137, that's probably not possible. If it were, WIN CE CAB Manager would be your best bet for manipulating/playing with CABs.
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What's the story with Sashimi? It looks like it's been pulled whenever it gets posted (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392983) and I can't find a developer's website (Google failed me). Any ideas? I presume it's a paid app and the developer is prohibiting distribution...

okay thank you for your answers...unpacking the cabs to one folder is not nessecary because they are all in one folder on my sd card. Just thought if there was an easy opputunity to install all of them "one-click". but seems this is not possible.

Most rom are UC compliant and it's very easy to write a quick script to install all your favourite apps as part of the customising process just after the flash takes place.
I've a script to install a few apps and also to setup my email account. You can also do loads of other stuff to if you want to such as setting power settings etc.
Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337

thank you very much crankshaft. i will have a look at it. only have to find out if the roms i use (leos) are UC compatible. but this would be exaxtly what i was looking for !!!

tobi1984 said:
thank you very much crankshaft. i will have a look at it. only have to find out if the roms i use (leos) are UC compatible. but this would be exaxtly what i was looking for !!!
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No worries mate. Most roms are UC compliant, having said that though I've just seen that Dutty's forthcoming rom will not be but I'm sure he'll get round that eventually.

Hello,
its possible with commercial software or trialware. but it's time consuming because you have to extract each cab merge the install setting files merge the registry settings file then rebuild the cab test the cab etc... i have done it one but with uc it's not important enimore.
i suse this method only to incorporate custom settings in cabs file.

@ tylwith okay sounds very hard to do. i think i will stay with UC then. Even if i will test dutty´s new rom because it looks great

auto configuration tool diy

Well, I've seen many chefs who use this tool to install various programs. How can I utilize this tool? I have searched all over to no avail

I'm assuming you mean the User Configuration (UC) feature. If not, then I apologise. I did a search and found an old thread explaining it here.

steviewevie said:
I'm assuming you mean the User Configuration (UC) feature. If not, then I apologise. I did a search and found an old thread explaining it here.
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Nah thats not it, but thanks for trying =P
What i'm looking for is how to use the customization tool that comes up after flashing a rom. In several roms after the first boot it will say Wait a few minutes for customization to complete or something like that. I'm looking for a tut explaining how to use this tool to cook certain programs into my rom without converting them into ext, Thanks for your help though Stevie.

ok, I thought that was it, UC can be used to run cabs and stuff. But sorry for my misunderstanding, hope you find it soon !

husker91 said:
Nah thats not it, but thanks for trying =P
What i'm looking for is how to use the customization tool that comes up after flashing a rom. In several roms after the first boot it will say Wait a few minutes for customization to complete or something like that. I'm looking for a tut explaining how to use this tool to cook certain programs into my rom without converting them into ext, Thanks for your help though Stevie.
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I'm not sure about your kitchen, but when I used the JoshKoss/TwoPumpChump Kaiser kitchen to cook ROMs, you would place all the applications in a special folder and create a text file called config.txt in that special folder pointing to the location of all your .cabs. You would then cook the ROM, and all the .cabs in that folder would end up in \Windows on the device after a flash. On first boot, it would install all of the .cabs you'd referenced in that file.
I would check in your kitchen's thread, as there will probably be questions from people like you. Try searching for config_operator.txt, config_PT.txt, or config_AP.txt in that kitchen's thread. Alternatively, you could very politely PM a ROM cooking veteran like NRGZ28 or joshkoss (or another chef) and ask how to do this. Sorry I couldn't be more specific to your, but hopefully that'll point you in the right direction.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm not sure about your kitchen, but when I used the JoshKoss/TwoPumpChump Kaiser kitchen to cook ROMs, you would place all the applications in a special folder and create a text file called config.txt in that special folder pointing to the location of all your .cabs. You would then cook the ROM, and all the .cabs in that folder would end up in \Windows on the device after a flash. On first boot, it would install all of the .cabs you'd referenced in that file.
I would check in your kitchen's thread, as there will probably be questions from people like you. Try searching for config_operator.txt, config_PT.txt, or config_AP.txt in that kitchen's thread. Alternatively, you could very politely PM a ROM cooking veteran like NRGZ28 or joshkoss (or another chef) and ask how to do this. Sorry I couldn't be more specific to your, but hopefully that'll point you in the right direction.
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exactly what I needed to know, Thank you very much. I'm using ervius visual kitchen but the config.txt and such work in a similar manner. Thanks again