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Lots of cooking questions, found no answer...

1) I have been examining various dumped roms and some OEMDrivers are seen as DLLs folder, whereas some Dlls are well...Dll file. How do you make the Dll file a folder?
2) can you completely remove the stock dialer and replace it with the kaiser dialer?

Answers to all your cooking questions
For all your cooking needs, check out this thread:
Mattk_r's Pandora's Kitchen
Once you go Pandora, you can't go back! (that is, until someone shows me otherwise )
Cheers!
Quakie

kin0kin said:
1) I have been examining various dumped roms and some OEMDrivers are seen as DLLs folder, whereas some Dlls are well...Dll file. How do you make the Dll file a folder?
2) can you completely remove the stock dialer and replace it with the kaiser dialer?
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yes, everything you need is in Pandora kitchen =) go and take a hammer and try different things out!

I personally prefer a chainsaw and a blowtorch , but that's just my "Quakie" side...
That being said, there's lots of rom kitchens out there, and they're all very good. Unfortunately, there's just so much to learn and only so much time.
Just read a bit here and there and pick one that suits your personality!
Have a great day!
Quakie
kazuni said:
yes, everything you need is in Pandora kitchen =) go and take a hammer and try different things out!
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sorry to ask this.

first, i would like to apologise, for asking this. i dun really understand some terms used here such as "dump rom", "cook rom"...and the wiki doesn't explain much. hence, although i have something in my mind, i can't find the right instruction here. i would like to install some program on my device, then extract the rom, and flash it. so even after i hard reset it, the programs will still be there. i hope you guys know what i mean.

Kitchen = Program for editing ROMs
Cook = either refers to the person doing the editing (sometimes called the Chef) or to actually build the ROM from the kitchen
Dump ROM = create a copy of the ROM that is on the Diamond
no idea what it is all related to food lol

Create one cab file of many different cab files

Hey guys.
I am not very into the topic cabs, but is it possible to create one cab that installs all the cabs of my favourite applications ? This would make the post-flashing process much much easier.
Thanks in advance
Tobi

Cant be done man, sorry. You cant mass install like 5 cabs in one hit. All you can do is create a cab to extract 5 cabs to a location

You can get a program to install them consecutively after one another (like Sashimi), however as luckyluke1137, that's probably not possible. If it were, WIN CE CAB Manager would be your best bet for manipulating/playing with CABs.

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You can get a program to install them consecutively after one another (like Sashimi), however as luckyluke1137, that's probably not possible. If it were, WIN CE CAB Manager would be your best bet for manipulating/playing with CABs.
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What's the story with Sashimi? It looks like it's been pulled whenever it gets posted (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392983) and I can't find a developer's website (Google failed me). Any ideas? I presume it's a paid app and the developer is prohibiting distribution...

okay thank you for your answers...unpacking the cabs to one folder is not nessecary because they are all in one folder on my sd card. Just thought if there was an easy opputunity to install all of them "one-click". but seems this is not possible.

Most rom are UC compliant and it's very easy to write a quick script to install all your favourite apps as part of the customising process just after the flash takes place.
I've a script to install a few apps and also to setup my email account. You can also do loads of other stuff to if you want to such as setting power settings etc.
Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337

thank you very much crankshaft. i will have a look at it. only have to find out if the roms i use (leos) are UC compatible. but this would be exaxtly what i was looking for !!!

tobi1984 said:
thank you very much crankshaft. i will have a look at it. only have to find out if the roms i use (leos) are UC compatible. but this would be exaxtly what i was looking for !!!
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No worries mate. Most roms are UC compliant, having said that though I've just seen that Dutty's forthcoming rom will not be but I'm sure he'll get round that eventually.

Hello,
its possible with commercial software or trialware. but it's time consuming because you have to extract each cab merge the install setting files merge the registry settings file then rebuild the cab test the cab etc... i have done it one but with uc it's not important enimore.
i suse this method only to incorporate custom settings in cabs file.

@ tylwith okay sounds very hard to do. i think i will stay with UC then. Even if i will test dutty´s new rom because it looks great

New Old style kitchen based on Bepe's tools

Hi here i release an OLD style kitchen based on Bepes tools
I have taken bepe's kitchen and created some batch files to make it a one click extract and one click build and flash
I was so used to the old style kitchens and when they stoped working (failing at xip extract) i was looking for something that worked that i could use easly.
I found bepes kitchen, and it was nearly the same so i ported the batch files from diamond kitchen 0.4 to make this.
this kitchen uses the new style packages but has the look and feel of the diamond kitchen 0.4
I am still looking for the package creater that makes these NEW style packages but can't seem to find it now so if anyone has it please drop me a link so i can include it in the kitchen tools
download link ---->
http://rapidshare.com/files/217781904/Kitchen.rar
Instructions
1 place you RUU_Signed.nbh in the baserom folder
2 click on !Begin
3 Dont touch anything until extraction is finished (approx 5-10minutes)
4 Modify your packages
5 click on !Cook
6 wait until the htc rom tool loads
7 select diamond in device, os.new.nb as the source OS and save as kitchen/RUU_Signed.nbh
8 close htc rom tool and Custom RUU flash tool will load
9 flash and enjoy
......

will this kitchen group the OEM and SYS files properly. im having difficulty in using the new format or everything's in SYS\MSXIPKernel folder.

Is the Rom dump protected after cooking?

DefJamz said:
will this kitchen group the OEM and SYS files properly. im having difficulty in using the new format or everything's in SYS\MSXIPKernel folder.
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this dumps the rom into the OEM, SYS and ROM Folders if you want the EXT folder download Bepe's tool below OEM2EXT

RideTheTube said:
Is the Rom dump protected after cooking?
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not had time yet to try and test if i can rebuild a cooked rom, will have a go tonight and post my findings.
This is Bepe's Kitchen automated by batch files so he is the best person to talk to about protection
sorry to be a little blunt but i am a noob when it comes to cooking that why i found something that worked for me and made it a little easyer to use,

Protected Rom? Almost Rom when rebuilding, it will delete all dsm file, so you can't use package tool.

ok i have now tried the flashing, and the cooked roms won't pass the splash screen page, not getting the device info in bottom right corner.
anybody there who uses bepe's kitchen mind having a look for me.
also i can't open a re-cooked rom

garymeg said:
ok i have now tried the flashing, and the cooked roms won't pass the splash screen page, not getting the device info in bottom right corner.
anybody there who uses bepe's kitchen mind having a look for me.
also i can't open a re-cooked rom
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I had the same problem and it was a XIP "mess-up". however I can't help you more than this.
try asking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3575850&postcount=131

i simply do NOT understand why build a tool that deletes stuffs that are important for cooking. isnt rom cooking supposed to be an open project for ALL? i mean some chef have the donate button in their sigs. but their rom's locked. it isnt fair to those (like myself) trying to learn how to cook a rom. i mean, i try to compare official roms and custom roms insides. what are the difference. it's by comparing that people learn to differenciate. and i would say BAHHH to missing rgu and dsm files!!

My thoughts exactly... Alas...
it is ironic, that NONE of the chefs who lock roms/doesn't supply kitchen/ask for donation wrote the code themselves. In short - everybody operates on stolen/leaked or any other way obtained code.
Ok, there are authors who created tools. And those guys have full right (and reason) to ask for donations fro that - TOOLS.
Otherwise - it's just funny. it's like stealing a car, and then asking police to protect it....

no panic.
at normaly old style kitchens never delete dsm'S.
and if you delete manualy dsm'S, you get all files in folder.
i think, with protect rom it means, no recookable roms.
it stops at point 1 or in the first step by using BEGIN! with a message like
"rom is smaller/bigger than/at starts" or so. excuise me, i've forgot the exactly words.
for checking of recookable rom i checked it with "htcRIE_0.5.0.12.exe".
it shows you all files with oem/sys - folders. but the oem can be empty. you find the oem-files than in sys-folder.
these points are my thinks that i see/learned by beginning flashing and cooking until now. other people can see/learn other thinks so dont dismiss me, if you are not my oppinien - but you can dismiss my english

Htc rom tool
Is it possible to use this for the Fuze?
EDIT: I found HTC tools with support for more phones on this thread a couple posts down

Help For updating wm6 XIP to wm6.1

First thx for helping me
I was trying to port a XIP from Touch Cruise
Yet it cant even boot in the system [only suck at the screen with the red words at the bottom]
Any clear tutorial for me. Thank you

You cannot just use the XIP from another phone.
You must get the XIP split into OEMXIPKernel and MSXIPKernel so that you can combine the new MSXIP with your existing Trinity OEMXIP.
And most of the time you would need to use the new build's SYS packages that go along with that new MSXIP.
What kitchen are using? Ervius Visual Kitchen?

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You cannot just use the XIP from another phone.
You must get the XIP split into OEMXIPKernel and MSXIPKernel so that you can combine the new MSXIP with your existing Trinity OEMXIP.
And most of the time you would need to use the new build's SYS packages that go along with that new MSXIP.
What kitchen are using? Ervius Visual Kitchen?
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Yes i am using Ervius Visual Kitchen
What i do is using the xipporterex to port the xip.
I even tried to follow the bepe tutorial from darkforceteam with bepe kitchen.
Yet same error occured.
Would u mind giving me a clear step for making it workable?
thx

Sorry but I have always used pre-extracted XIP/SYS bundles from people like Da_G that I then put into my kitchen. So I am not sure I can give you a full step through for porting the TC xip/sys from scratch.
One thing about the OEMXIP though, whenever I have used xipporterex I usually discard the generated ROM\Trinity\NEWBUILD# and replace it with a copy of my existing ROM\Trinity\OLDBUILD# (I just rename the folder to the new build number). It is just the ported ROM\Shared\NEWBUILD# folder that you want.
Again, you are also using the SYS\NEWBUILD# folder aren't you?

the.decoy said:
Sorry but I have always used pre-extracted XIP/SYS bundles from people like Da_G that I then put into my kitchen. So I am not sure I can give you a full step through for porting the TC xip/sys from scratch.
One thing about the OEMXIP though, whenever I have used xipporterex I usually discard the generated ROM\Trinity\NEWBUILD# and replace it with a copy of my existing ROM\Trinity\OLDBUILD# (I just rename the folder to the new build number). It is just the ported ROM\Shared\NEWBUILD# folder that you want.
Again, you are also using the SYS\NEWBUILD# folder aren't you?
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Oh man! You are genius!!!
My rom comes bootable after renaming the folder!
That's so fantastic
Yet the xip of the system seems hasn't update [still the old build ]

Update
I used the old Build.. therefore, my device is bootable....
Yet when i choose back the new build, ext xip and sys as the neew version,
it suck again at the screen...
Thx man i know u have tried a lot to figure out my problem.
Is it possible or better, if i upload my kitchen for u to check?

OPzero said:
Oh man! You are genius!!!
My rom comes bootable after renaming the folder!
That's so fantastic
Yet the xip of the system seems hasn't update [still the old build ]
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Oh thats easy. The "Rom Version" (that shows on boot) just needs to be patched (it is reading it from the copied OEMXIP).
Just go back into the Porting window then click the button "Find Date/Version on \ROM\Xip\"
That will populate the Rom Date and Rom Version fields.
You can then edit those fields and click each of the "Change" buttons to patch the newer Date/Version into the OEMXIP
You can also set the PagePool value using the "Change PP to Mb" function (it is not possible to query the current PP value however it does tell you what it previously was when you change it). You could always set it to something sensible like 4 or 6 and see what it was before that.
EDIT: If you were actually talking about the CE OS build number that shows in "About Device" then that is much harder to change. It is embedded somewhere within the MSXIP (requires hex editing I am not familiar with - and that is effectively make a "fake" build anyway).

OPzero said:
Update
I used the old Build.. therefore, my device is bootable....
Yet when i choose back the new build, ext xip and sys as the neew version,
it suck again at the screen...
Thx man i know u have tried a lot to figure out my problem.
Is it possible or better, if i upload my kitchen for u to check?
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Oh, sorry just saw this ... yeah probably better to just do that.
Just curious but why on earth do you want to port some old TC 6.1 rom anyway?
There a plenty of functional WM6.5 xip/sys bundles that we can/have ported to Trinity. Even if it has be WM6.1 there are surely newer releases of 6.1 xip/sys to choose from?
EDIT: Just a heads up but I am about to go offline for the night (end of the work day in my timezone) so if you do upload I will not reply until tomorrow.

the.decoy said:
Oh, sorry just saw this ... yeah probably better to just do that.
Just curious but why on earth do you want to port some old TC 6.1 rom anyway?
There a plenty of functional WM6.5 xip/sys bundles that we can/have ported to Trinity. Even if it has be WM6.1 there are surely newer releases of 6.1 xip/sys to choose from?
EDIT: Just a heads up but I am about to go offline for the night (end of the work day in my timezone) so if you do upload I will not reply until tomorrow.
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It's ok, would u mind pm or post some link which release those stuff?
Thank you very much!
I will still upload my rom and pm to u~
Check it when u hav time
really really thx

You could extract the 23102 wm6.5 build from my last kitchen release:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5547181#post5547181
I have modified EVK slightly to allow it to build either p3600i or Trinity ROMs from the same kitchen but still there is a full QVGA xip/sys bundle there for 23102 (give or take a few sys packages).
Got to go, will try and be more helpful tomorrow

the.decoy said:
You could extract the 23102 wm6.5 build from my last kitchen release:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5547181#post5547181
I have modified EVK slightly to allow it to build either p3600i or Trinity ROMs from the same kitchen but still there is a full QVGA xip/sys bundle there for 23102 (give or take a few sys packages).
Got to go, will try and be more helpful tomorrow
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Yes I got it~ Thx
it is great
OK and now i am going to mod it~~
Yet just before i start, would u like suggesting me some post that is most updated and clear enough for me such a newbie to work around it?
Thx

OPzero said:
Yes I got it~ Thx
it is great
OK and now i am going to mod it~~
Yet just before i start, would u like suggesting me some post that is most updated and clear enough for me such a newbie to work around it?
Thx
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Go and find SuperSport's Tutorial Video for using Ervius Kitchen.
I have broken up the EXT packages into categories to make it simpler for new chefs but the basic concept is the same.
I have included pre-built ROM profiles to make it very simple to build ROMs out-of-the-box.
Just got to "Load ROM", choose one for your phone (P3600i or Trinity) and the click "Create ROM" to build it.
Load a few different profiles and look at what changes in the settings. That should help you see what is going on.
Check out this thread for more tutorials and guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669414

the.decoy said:
Go and find SuperSport's Tutorial Video for using Ervius Kitchen.
I have broken up the EXT packages into categories to make it simpler for new chefs but the basic concept is the same.
I have included pre-built ROM profiles to make it very simple to build ROMs out-of-the-box.
Just got to "Load ROM", choose one for your phone (P3600i or Trinity) and the click "Create ROM" to build it.
Load a few different profiles and look at what changes in the settings. That should help you see what is going on.
Check out this thread for more tutorials and guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669414
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1 more question
I downloaded a XIP SYS Pack from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650783
However there are 5 Folders
How can i port them into the kitchen?
Thx for that

OK, this technically requires more time than I can spare to explain thoroughly ... but maybe if I just outline the steps you can do some google searching to work out exactly how to do it:
- First you need to clean up the SYS for you needs. For Trinity you need to have QVGA sys structure so that means only 96DPI and 320x240
- That means sorting the SYS package folders into an EVK SYS structure and removing the other DPI and resolution folder structures.
- Go get XIPDumpSoter (or whatever it is called now) by teh penguin so that you can use it to automatically sort the folders. Then delete any that are for other DPI or RES (eg: 192DPI or 640x480, etc). You _only_ want 96DPI and 320x240 (and of course any that are non-res specific)
- That should give you the folder structure to put into \SYS\NEWBUILD#\
- You will need to copy over the WINCENLS sys package from your existing SYS as that will not be in the new SYS (there are other replacement folders like SQM_DUMMY, and also some that we often just delete but you can learn that stuff later)
- We have already discussed what you need to do with the MSXIP
- Lastly, (and this is really very much the "art vs sicence" part), you will need to go through and "recmod" a certain number of "modules" within certain sys packages.
I simply don't have the time right now to get into recmod but if you google you will find plenty of helpful posts explaining it. I think there is even a basic recipe of what to recmod for 64M users done by JooJooBee ... that would get you going.
Put simply, at this stage you need to read read read read read lots of chef threads to pick up the finer details. Sorry I am too busy at work to be any more help than this.
Good luck.

Thank you for spending time on me
I know it is rather annoying to explain a few things
Really Really Thank you for helping me
I hope that my post could be a guide for others
Update:
The rom is still unbootable after a day of trying.
Does the OEM section be edit before updating the build?
Such as initflashfiles.dat [I read the in the tutorial that it should change to the native 6.5]
May be i started from the wrong step?
What i concern is that wm6 may not suitable to update directly to wm6.1 or wm6.5
Thank you for spending much time on helping me
If it can be google, simply give me the keyword,
I will finish the entiry
And finally, thank you!!

OPzero said:
Thank you for spending time on me
I know it is rather annoying to explain a few things
Really Really Thank you for helping me
I hope that my post could be a guide for others
Update:
The rom is still unbootable after a day of trying.
Does the OEM section be edit before updating the build?
Such as initflashfiles.dat [I read the in the tutorial that it should change to the native 6.5]
May be i started from the wrong step?
What i concern is that wm6 may not suitable to update directly to wm6.1 or wm6.5
Thank you for spending much time on helping me
If it can be google, simply give me the keyword,
I will finish the entiry
And finally, thank you!!
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I'm actually going to bed before 3am tonight, so I will not be long here, but I just had a thought. When you cook the ROM, are you checking "Real WM 6.5 AKU" in the Kitchen? Don't do that. You cannot actually use a Native 6.5 Kernel on the Trinity as one does not exist. Also, as mentioned by the.Decoy before, you MUST have 'wince.nls' in your Kitchen somewhere or it will not boot. Thirdly, try cooking a version without ANY Extended packages. Only the original XIP and SYS and see if that boots. When you get that going smoothly, start adding EXT packages. Good Luck!
I'll check back in a couple days to see if you've made any progress. If you'd like to send your kitchen to me also, I'd be happy to look it over and see if I can find anything wrong in there.

Again and Again
I keep remind myself that Native 6.5 Kernel should be checked
OMG The Bug is here
And Thanks Decoy
Thank You
Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Update:
I saw a folder called 0_ROM_Version in EXT Shared
What is it and what function does it have?
Thx

OPzero said:
Does the OEM section be edit before updating the build?
Such as initflashfiles.dat [I read the in the tutorial that it should change to the native 6.5]
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Ummm are you trying to use a freshly extracted OEM from an official ROM?
If so then yes, there is a massive amount of conversion that must be done to it before you an cook it into a rom. Even before you break it up in to components and edit all the reg and dat files ... you first need re-sign everything with an SDK cert because you won't have the official cert that HTC built them with.
Seriously. If you are just starting out then use an existing chef's OEM (use mine or anyone else who has posted a kitchen).
Even I have not yet ever had the time to complete build an OEM from scratch (not that I don't want to one day). I was always just adapting the OEM that Chanvi had provided us in his kitchen, primarily because he had already done all the work to make it mesh with WM6.5
OPzero said:
Again and Again
I keep remind myself that Native 6.5 Kernel should be checked
OMG The Bug is here
And Thanks Decoy
Thank You
Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am bit confused by what you said there
As Supersport explained, we do not have a Native 6.5 kernel for Trinity.
So that option should not be checked.
OPzero said:
I saw a folder called 0_ROM_Version in EXT Shared
What is it and what function does it have?
Thx
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Again, this is why I said to try "Load ROM" and see what happened
Those are just simply EXT packages which contain 1 single provxml. Each one sets the registry value for "ROM Version" (the info that comes up in "About Device" in Settings). There is one for every type of "Saved ROM" you can build from that kitchen.
I created them so that people could build each of the several types of rom from my kitchen but never need to edit the provxml files to change what the version info was.
If you are going to try cooking your own roms, the best advice I can give you is find a text editor you like and just start opening up ALL of the REG DAT RGU and PROVXML files you can find and see what they are doing.
You can even do it from within EVK. Select the type of file on the left panel called "Editors" (or just select "All") then click "Show Editor". You can open the files it finds by double clicking them in the panel on the right.
Anything custom that ever happens in the setup of a rom is controlled by these files.
If you want to see how something works (or what it does), just open up the files and read them

Sorry, wt i mean is that my rom become bootable after unchecking it
~~ That is so amazing ~~
Now i am Reading the horrible, endless.....etc tutorial, [I can finally have my own rom ]
1 Question, I am trying to put a new wince.nls which content much more countries in the rom. Yet it comes unbootable after i have repalced it.
I googled around and found several solutions.
1 is that i should put it in OEM rather than SYS [I havn't ried it yet i think it won't work]
2 is that i should mod the size of the xip.bin
Therefore it is big enough to store it.
3 Adding in some registry with my selected country code
Thanks for helping me ~~

Sorry can't help you there.
I have never ventured beyond WWE lang for my kitchens.
OPzero said:
1 Question, I am trying to put a new wince.nls which content much more countries in the rom. Yet it comes unbootable after i have repalced it.
I googled around and found several solutions.
1 is that i should put it in OEM rather than SYS [I havn't ried it yet i think it won't work]
2 is that i should mod the size of the xip.bin
Therefore it is big enough to store it.
3 Adding in some registry with my selected country code
Thanks for helping me ~~
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