I've bought one of the adaptors to allow normal headphones to be plugged into my XDA Orbit. What I'd like to do is plug a mini USB extension into the XDA then on the other end plug the adaptor in. Ideally it would be 2m long and obviously be male - female. The main reason is that my adaptor lets me charge my XDA up aswell and I don't want lots of cables in front of me. So i'll plug the extension in and run it into my glove compartment, were I'll plug in my fm transmitter and car charger.
Hope this makes sense, i've spent ages googling to try and find one but i've had no luck, any ideas?
I was also searching for one of these and failed. Post back here if you succeed.
Mini-USB extension cable
I found a single source at
http://www.pc-mobile.net/gugf.htm. It's item number CMUE about half way down the page.
I also found some folks who seem to be prepared to make almost anything at http://www.cypressindustries.com/contact/index.html
Best regards,
Steve
3 in 1 USB Adapter HTC TyTn P3300
There is such interesting device:
HTC 3-in-1 USB Adapter
Features:
11pins to 11pins HTC adapter, with USB port and 3.5mm Stereo Head Jack, you can connect to your own headphone or amplifier for audio and the USB port, you are able to charge the device via USB cable at the same time.
Support :
HTC P4350/HTC Herald/Dopod C800/Dopod C858
HTC Trinity/HTC P3600/Qtek P3600/Orange SPV M700/Dopod D810/Dopod CHT9100
O2 XDA Orbit/HTC P3300/HTC Artemis/Qtek G200/Dopod P800W/Dopod M700/T-Mobile MDA Compact III/Orange SPV M650
O2 Xda Cosmo/HTC Excalibur/HTC S620/T-Mobile Dash/Dopod C720W
HTC S310/HTC Oxygen/Orange SPV C100/Qtek 7200
O2 XDA Trion/MDA Vario II/Cingular 8525/i-mate JASJAM/Qtek 9600/HTC TyTN/Dopod CHT9000/Orange SPV M3100/Vodafone 1605/Dopod 838Pro
HTC MTeoR/HTC Breeze/Dopod 595/Qtek 8600
Of course I can not say if it's working flawlesly with all listed devices, but with my HTC P3300 (Artemis) it works great.
I received one extra adapter as a present, so if you are in the Netherlands and interested to have it, I can sell my second adapter for 10 EUR. Please PM me with the suggestions and offers.
Mini USB extension cable
I had the same problems finding a mini usb extension. Then e-bay came to the rescue! This guy
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/techno_toys/
has just what you need, a 1m long mini usb extension cable for less than £10.00 !
Cheaper and faster than waiting for it to arrive from Hong-Kong
Bill Kelly
Thanks all, google a mini usb extender and this was the first thing that came up. Can't believe these cables are so rare!
FYI my supplier was Keven from Techno Toys on ebay UK http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZtechno_toys
those links you posted don't have USB mini female to USB mini male.
I only need it to be 3 inches.
also, would that 3 in 1 work for my wizard?
Thanks!
Ray_jai said:
those links you posted don't have USB mini female to USB mini male.
I only need it to be 3 inches. Also, would that 3 in 1 work for my wizard?
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This is a link to the current listing (as of 11 Feb 08):
mini usb extansion cable on e-bay
3 were listed, but 2 have already gone. They are 1.2m long too, not the 30cm that you need, but maybe you can cut/re-solder it? They are pretty rare though, so not sure I would risk it!
plinkykev said:
This is a link to the current listing (as of 11 Feb 08):
mini usb extansion cable on e-bay
3 were listed, but 2 have already gone. They are 1.2m long too, not the 30cm that you need, but maybe you can cut/re-solder it? They are pretty rare though, so not sure I would risk it!
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These wont carry the audio though. They are only 5 pin and carry data only. Ive got one of these cables and the 3 in 1 adaptor. The adaptor is extusb and has 11 pins, and this cable is regular usb with only 5 pins. Not only that, they dont actually fit together as a male extusb is a slightly different shape to the female regular miniusb. Obviously Female Extusb to male miniusb would work, but this cable is the wrong way round for that.
made my own
I was also looking for one to use in my car. Couldn't find any so I made one. Used a vga cable, cut the htc usb charger/2.5 headphone splitter that came with my touch, and soldered the cables together. I'll post pics tomorrow if i get a chance. Btw, i got lucky, because while trying to solder one of the last cables, the yellow cable that connects to the end of the 2.5 headphone jack came off. Luckily, it wasn't the cable that was for left or right channel.
I couldnt find an 11 core cable small enough to look good. VGA cable isnt too thick though... tempting.
pics of htc supplied usb to usb/2.5 extended
Nice, I wish i had soldering skills. everytime i try to solder, the solder never bonds.
I tried heating up the wirers, but the solder always bonds to the tip or combine with the solder coil again.
Schooleydoo said:
These wont carry the audio though. They are only 5 pin and carry data only. Ive got one of these cables and the 3 in 1 adaptor. The adaptor is extusb and has 11 pins, and this cable is regular usb with only 5 pins.
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OK, sorry, I had used it OK with my Motorola phone, and that did the audio OK. Didn't realise there were more pins in the PDA cable.
11 pin extension cable
how many wires are needed for power and Stereo?
I am Guessing 1 for right, 1 for left, 1 for Power, and for ground. I am asking because I want to make my own, but I do not want a big diameter cable.
I have the 3 in 1 splitter, so it has everything I need except for length. Is a 4 wire cable all it really needs?
Anyone?...
Here is another source for Mini USB Extension
Man are these cables ever hard to find. I have been looking for such a cable for a long time since I recently found this other guy on ebay. He has 2m (6ft) and 3m (9ft) versions, all USB 2.0 compatible: kabelbaron on ebay I think he ships worldwide, too...
(I think you can also get to his recent items through http://www.kabelbaron.de).
Eggbert said:
I have been looking for such a cable for a long time since I recently found this other guy on ebay. He has...
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They look like standard 5 pin extensions to me.
People in this thread are looking for extUSB extenders that have 11pins.
Ray_jai said:
Nice, I wish i had soldering skills. everytime i try to solder, the solder never bonds.
I tried heating up the wirers, but the solder always bonds to the tip or combine with the solder coil again.
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What works for me is to melt a tiny bit of solder on the tip, then touch that melted solder to the wires. It will transfer heat to the wires and you can add more solder from another angle. Wipe the tip on a wet sponge after every use. This leaves a thin layer of clean solder on the tip. If you let the tip go uncleaned for too long it turns totally black and conducts heat poorly. If you buy tip cleaner you can sometimes get the black off.
Also, if you have tiny things to connect and little space to work, put a bit of solder on both things first, then touch them together and the heat will transfer into both of them, melting them together. Keeping them steady after you pull the tip away is key to a strong join. If they're trying to pull apart as the solder cools, the solder will look more dull than shiny and be easy to break.
Also, be absolutely sure you get 63/37 (63% tin, 37% lead) solder instead of lead-free because lead-free doesn't melt till a much higher temperature and that's more likely to damage your electronics. Also, I could barely melt the lead-free solder with three different irons I tried and it was very hard to make it bond to things.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder for more.
[email protected] said:
how many wires are needed for power and Stereo?
I am Guessing 1 for right, 1 for left, 1 for Power, and for ground. I am asking because I want to make my own, but I do not want a big diameter cable.
I have the 3 in 1 splitter, so it has everything I need except for length. Is a 4 wire cable all it really needs?
Anyone?...
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USB power uses a +5V and ground pin on the top row.
Audio uses 3 more pins along the bottom: left, right, and audio ground. There's also two mic pins along the bottom you might want to tap into.
See http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ExtUSB
I found a good source for mini usb extensions of all kinds. This site really was the best site for USB and Firewire cables. I got mine today.
Edited: This cables are 5pin, just for data and power not for audio.
http://www.usbfirewire.com/
I can't find the cable that came with the phone.
The headphone cable which fits the same hole is a very snug fit and doesn't look like a normal mini usb as has gold rails on both sides on the inside rather than a normal mini usb which only seems to have them on one side.
When I put a normal mini usb cable in, it feels a bit loose and whilst it charges my Orbit, it doesnt get recognised by the PC for synching.
Thoughts????
The actual body of the connector is a slightly different shape with the headphone connector being better matched than a normal mini USB plug, that said using a standard mini USB will not harm the device, I use whatever is available to charge my units, I would have thought it would sync to the PC though mine certainly do - Mike
Its designed that way.
Its quite a clever solution really - it allows the standard 4 pin usb cable to connect, but also has the additional pins for the special headphone connector.
I'm still stuck. My cable charges but won't let me synch?
Anyone got any other thoughts?
Where are you plugging in to the PC? try a direct connection rather than a hub, also make sure no other devices are connected using Active Sync. What version of Active Sync have you got installed on the PC - a few pointers to look in to - Mike
Has anyone ever come across a male to female ExtUSB extension lead?
Google and ebay throughs up nothing. Perhaps someone knows of a company (UK ideally) that makes bespoke USB cables? I think I'm going out on a limb with this one.
First, I dont have any exact solution for your problem, but I'm wondering, why are you looking for that?
If you were to do an extension on the data cable, you can get yourself a standard USB extension lead, and have the data cable extended.
If you were to do an extention on the audio cable, you can get those extUSB-to-3.5/2.5mm audio-jack and get a standard audio cable/earphone for the job.
UPDATE: Ok, I see what you are trying to do in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342382
Can you elaborate the 3-in-1 thing you mentioned there? it is just a splitter/hub, which uses extUSB for all?
Great investigative work Hanmin. As you saw the objective is a car 'install' with one wire leading to the device (kaiser), and the 3-in-1 adtaper hidden away. So the extension needs to be about 1meter and carry the HTC ExtUSB spec of power and audio signal (hands free doesn't matter to me though).
In actual fact, a 3-in-1 adapter with a 20cm lead would be sufficient, but none of them seem to be longer than 5cm.
The extension can be found here. Or image attached.
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Anyone come up with an EXTUSB extension cable? I'd really like to have just one cable coming out of the phone when in the car, and keep the splitters tucked away neatly behind the dashboard.
wkearney99 said:
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Anyone come up with an EXTUSB extension cable? I'd really like to have just one cable coming out of the phone when in the car, and keep the splitters tucked away neatly behind the dashboard.
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See the first link in post#3... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293357
I just ordered two of them, but haven't received them yet. They emailed that they shipped from Honk Kong the next day. however!
Hope this might work for you!
***UPDATE*** I just received the cables today (1/4/08). Just what the doctor ordered! I use it with the Motorola Mini-USB "Y" adapter SKN6222A to power both my phone and a bluetooth GPS head from the same power plug. The extension lets me keep the phone mounted on a dash vent and the GPS on the top of the dashboard.
Posted in the thread linked above as to why that doesnt work for me, anyone come up with a way to extend the 11pin extusb? Im crap with a soldering iron, but if it comes to it...
Im in the exact same boat as the OP, have the 3 in 1 and it looks horrible with the 3 cables dangling out of it, want it hidden behind the dash.
Again, not exactly what you are looking for but maybe of use. The Brodit HTC Touch Pro Holder with 3-in-1 Adapter (http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=173938) is a mount with an included 15cm extUSB to 3 port adapter. Not sure if the 40cm cable is long enough, but it could be taken off of the mount i would think. A bit of a waste to have to buy a mount just to get a cable, but might be your best option.
I don't understand why no-one has made an extUSB extension cable or a longer extUSB to 3 port cable.
german company sells the plugs, so you could make your own cable...
wanna order a few and let us know how it turns out?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2973835
German custom usb cable assembly
foaf said:
Has anyone ever come across a male to female ExtUSB extension lead?
Google and ebay throughs up nothing. Perhaps someone knows of a company (UK ideally) that makes bespoke USB cables? I think I'm going out on a limb with this one.
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See posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2973835#post2973835
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3033031#post3033031
Hey all. I resell ProClip products and have been trying to help out some customers with solutions for their Hero in the car. Looks like no one has any stock solutions for a longer cable to create a cleaner install outside of buying one of these:
ww_w._proclipusa.com/image.aspx/media/images/products/devicecradle/843773.jpg-225x
(sorry. can't post links yet. how do I go about getting verified?)
and disassembling the cable. So who'd be interesting in buying that 15.75" cable separately? I'm working on getting them to sell the cable separately. That'll be the first solution for HTC owners. My second attempt is getting them to make an adjustable holder for HTC phones and see if they can make the height of the connector adjustable. Since they'll never make that kind of cradle for all HTC phones, at least they can cover all their bases with that type of cradle.
Let me know if anyone has interest, and I can keep you posted.
Ryan
i will be keen on the extension cable! I have the same problem as trying to hide the fm transmitter and also an adaptor (to charge the fmtalk & phone at the same time...) in the car.
extension cable
I would love to buy an extension cable
Hi. I have the following problem: the miniUSB jack, the pins are bent. I can charge the cellphone, but activesync does not work, windows recognizes the device as an unknown device. I do not know how I see the the pins are properly bent. Is there a trick? I hope you can help me. Pascal
Same Problem, USB Jack pins for charging bent
I got a used Prophet from a customer wich doesnt charge
or sync's to Active Sync.
I recognized the two bent Pins and the task is now:
does any one know where to get a new USB jack?
I will solder it in my selfe but i need the partnumber of these
usb jack or i have to finde an identical one. (maybe I disassamble
one of the dead Prophet's in my collection ;(...) but getting this SMD
usb jack off the Mainbord without any damage is a bit difficult,
so i prefere a new part for these repair.
Does someone know where to get a
partlist / Boardlayout with partnames on it.
You need this
just correct it with the stylus .......
Insert the stylus or a toothpick to the port and straighten the 5th pin
cheers!!!
Aju
I know this is not a cell phone, but the principle seems to be the same if you have a phone with a proprietary USB charger that is missing.
Someone gave me a swimming, underwater Finis Neptune MP3 player but the problem is the charging cable was not included. Since this is a waterproof MP3 player the cable is proprietary and it is impossible to find a cable (from the company or otherwise) without buying a second unit on eBay with the cable.
My 1st question: Is there a way to cut apart an old USB cable and make my own charger/transfer cable? How do
My 2nd question: There are four contacts on the bottom of the MP3 player. How do I map each one to know what is positive, negative, ground and data transfer? (Photo of pins attached)
Thanks!
iKokomo said:
I know this is not a cell phone, but the principle seems to be the same if you have a phone with a proprietary USB charger that is missing.
Someone gave me a swimming, underwater Finis Neptune MP3 player but the problem is the charging cable was not included. Since this is a waterproof MP3 player the cable is proprietary and it is impossible to find a cable (from the company or otherwise) without buying a second unit on eBay with the cable.
My 1st question: Is there a way to cut apart an old USB cable and make my own charger/transfer cable? How do
My 2nd question: There are four contacts on the bottom of the MP3 player. How do I map each one to know what is positive, negative, ground and data transfer? (Photo of pins attached)
Thanks!
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Certainly, just find some wiring diagrams/schematics that show the order of the pinouts for the motherboard/USB port on the device(you should be able to use the device's model number to find the correct diagram for the device), then find a diagram of the pinouts for the charger block(this diagram may or may not be as easy to find or you might figure it out yourself).
With those two diagrams, you should be able to easily improvise a cable, it obviously won't have the waterproof functionality unless you use a connector made the same way the stock connector is made.
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