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Just a thought.

I have been trolling the forums for years and have spent 1000's of hours
reading and learning and searching...
mostly searching...
I was just wondering. How taxing would it be to have links
in the forums to entries in the wiki detailing what a given subject is all about?
similar to Tomboy notes in Linux.
where no special taging in the post needs to be made.
any word that has a wiki entry would automatically link to the article.
for instance:
while reading a forum entry about flashing a ROM, there is talk about
HARDSPLs, RADIOs, CID Unlockers, Nand, HaRET, Compcache, different
versions of android Donut Cupcake Eclair etc.... Tinboot, Flash,
CustomRUU.exe the list could go on forever.
Being able to click on the word that is of interest and lead them to a
stationary section for an answer(such as a wiki), may keep the "Stupid" or
repetitive questions to a minimum and help clear up the boards.
Instead of re-explaining how to do something every time a new visitor to the
site decides to ask noob questions, a noob would see something they don't
understand and then click on that word that links them to an article that
best describes it.
the problem is that stickies don't always stay up. good explanations don't
always have their own thread, and searching the forums usually just brings
up posts of people using those words in a sentence but not necessarily
explaining in detail what it is about or how to use it.
often there are very good posts that explain in detail certain subjects.
and if you search for them you will find them.
but you will never get rid of "Lazy" people that don't want to search for hours
reading countless numbers of non-helpful or incomprehensible jibberjabber.
and its not always a matter of being lazy. sometimes it is just damn near
impossible to find what you are looking for.but it is there....
it has just got to be.
Also, if this is possible to have setup,
when there is a subject matter that doesn't yet have an entry any
knowledgeable person that has permission to create an entry can do so.
(i am guessing thats already true for the wiki)
I am sure that may be more complicated than I am seeing it. But it sure would be nice.

I like this idea. At some point we are going to have to migrate to a new wiki (the one we have is no longer supported). When we do that, I will look into this as well. Thanks.

I think not... Cause i will always click the words by accident,
If i want to know something, i will look in the wiki myself
Maybe an option so you can choose

I don't like it either. That way it looks like some ad app has hijacked your browser and hyperlinks all relevant words for you. But, if you could choose wether to turn this option on or off, it might be an idea!

Why are you calling yourself a troll? WTF does trolling mean then? You don't sound like a troll right now.

Overloaded said:
I think not... Cause i will always click the words by accident,
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What are you doing? just clicking around randomly at your screen as you read???
J/K
I know what you mean though... I always "Highlight" with my mouse while I read and I would get mad if I kept getting redirected when I do that.
for sure this would be a better thing if it was "ON" by default for noobs
and then you could turn it off in your user settings when you no longer need it.
maardiweb said:
I don't like it either. That way it looks like some ad app has hijacked your browser and hyperlinks all relevant words for you.
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I absolutly HATE those damn ads. especially when they POPUP little windows that wont go away until you click the little x.
poetryrocksalot said:
Why are you calling yourself a troll? WTF does trolling mean then? You don't sound like a troll right now.
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I consider a troll to be someone that joins a forum just to get access to a download or to frequently get info about something and never contribute back.
I don't really consider myself a troll... when I have something of value I will post. when I get really stuck with a problem I post. but I have no need to rant about BS or make comments on things that I am not really sure about.

Overloaded said:
I think not... Cause i will always click the words by accident,
If i want to know something, i will look in the wiki myself
Maybe an option so you can choose
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I agree with the above and an 'option' seems to be better.

says i have a text message but i don't

im sure this has proably been asked before. but i have the HTC Tilt 2 from AT&T and says i have a new message when i dont. i have tried deleting all the messages in my sent, deleted, inbox, and drafts but touch flow still says there is one at the bottom. i also dont have a notice for one. how do i fix this?

I have a touch pro 2 and I have the same issue. I tried calling HTC and they said to shut the phone, have someone text me an amount of times equal to what the number of text messages it says I have is, then wait 5 minutes and turn the phone on. That didn't work. I need to get around to waiting on hold 15 minutes to ask them again. :/

ive had this issue before and there is a fix for it...
1) unzip the attached file to your storage card
2) run the exe file
3) restart your phone
let me know if you guys need more help, but that should do it. it always works for me.

Worked. Thanks. Now to figure out why Visual Voicemail isn't working and how to fix that 1 hour 2 minute thing on the clock.

This sms issue has been discussed in at least 50 different threads on here. There is no way you guys used the search feature to solve your issue. The last thing this forum needed was YET another thread about this
If you don't know how to use the search feature (which if you look at the top of nearly EVERY page here on XDA you'll see the "search box" so I really don't know how you couldn't) that's built into the forums, in google do something like search "sms count problem XDA" and I bet you'll come up with threads that have the fix in it...
common sense goes a long way.
Regardless... glad you found your solution

If you want to turn this thread into condescending posts, I can post screenshots of Firefox's history from the last 2 days using the search feature for a handful of other things. Convenience goes a long way. Searching isn't the most simple thing. Things have to be worded correctly, versions have to match.

thanks puff601 the programs worked like a charm. and Aaron yesterday before i made this thread i did use the search function and i got so many pages that it would take me hours to look through. i looked through the first ten and found nothing pertaining to my issue.

raz1337 said:
If you want to turn this thread into condescending posts, I can post screenshots of Firefox's history from the last 2 days using the search feature for a handful of other things. Convenience goes a long way. Searching isn't the most simple thing. Things have to be worded correctly, versions have to match.
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JWJR said:
thanks puff601 the programs worked like a charm. and Aaron yesterday before i made this thread i did use the search function and i got so many pages that it would take me hours to look through. i looked through the first ten and found nothing pertaining to my issue.
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Not meaning to be condisending at all... the reality is like I said.. searching isn't hard, might take you a bit but compared to what? Making a post and then waiting for someone to search for you and post the fix that's been discussed a million times? How dare users on here call people out on that!!!!
If you do a search, even just in this sub forum you'll probably find 20 threads started by people who have less then 10 posts asking about the exact same thing... The other day I looked and at the top of the post's there were 2 threads about this... this one and another one right under it. Come on! Just for kicks I punched in what I recommened above by searching in google the "sms count problem XDA" and low and behold the third link down was a link to a touch pro 2 sms problem... the first link showed what you had to look for, the "fixunreadcount" program, as did the 3rd link. Now, am I claiming to be a genious because when I had this issue way way back I did just that and came up with the answer almost right away? No, but the fact is I looked and found it.. Luck? Maybe... but before I post anything I look and look... or if anything say I loaded on a custom rom and had the issue I would post in that thread asking if anyone had the same issue. I'm sure someone would ring in!
Google Result for sms count problem XDA
You're right.. searching isn't the most convenient thing... Especially when you don't know how to search properly I'm sure that can be a real pain in the butt.
Regardless you got your fix one way or another and that's all that matters as I'm sure it annoyed you beyond belief... maybe this post will stay at the top of the charts for a while so other people who have the issue can find it right away and not have to use the search feature...
better yet a mod should just start a new sticky thread with fixes and known issues with the phones..... Update it every few weeks and it would make the forum a lot cleaner place.

Aaron McCarthy said:
Blah blah blah
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You just don't get it. There's a difference between human interaction and the strict wording requirements of the search function. You seem to be so dead set on proving why a certain method works so well that you fail to understand the human interaction aspect of a forum.

3 gripes/bugs with new ATT Tilt 2 ROM, tweaks?, any other gripes??

Three things ive noticed since updating to the new Tilt 2 official Rom. Every time the device starts up, the "Backlight and Power" SETTINGS screen loads, as i said, every time the device starts up. Its pointless, undesired, annoying, and has done that from the start.
*(2) On the SMS tab of the new "HTC SENSE" (newer version of touchflo pretty much) whenever you get a new SMS and go over to the SMS tab, the newest message isnt ever at the top of the list (waiting for you right in front of your face) on the previous official ROM the newest SMS was always placed/focused right at top of the list for you to see instantly. Not the case with this new ROM, you have to scroll through your old messages, to the very top to read the new SMS, instead of it being right there.
*(3) Why the heck did they get rid of the task manager in the upper right corner next to the clock? Are you kidding? That was just too easy to terminate programs, and switch focus to them if youd like. They got rid of it!? Ridiculous.
Tweaks of any kind are welcome and appreciated, im sure by a few people. I am an advanced user so i would understand. If anyone else thinks of gripes with the new ROM please post here!

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*(3) Why the heck did they get rid of the task manager in the upper right corner next to the clock? Are you kidding? That was just too easy to terminate programs, and switch focus to them if youd like. They got rid of it!? Ridiculous.
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Try this. i have not tried it yet so i cant tell you if it works but people have said it works on tp2 w/ sense!

Thank you, i will definitely check that out. i appreciate the helpful input, instead of being told where and how to post like a lot of other people seem to like to do. I sincerely appreciate your time and efforts. Looks like a good suggestion by just checking out the screenshots.

There's already several threads going regarding this ROM in the ROM Development forum (where this belonged and has been moved to). Had you taken a moment to look you could have found them and posted your drivel in one of them instead of having yet another thread on the same subject scattered around the forums. Your Task Manager gripe is among the most well-known and easiest to fix as a cab is posted in those other threads for it. Forums have certain etiquette that members are expected to abide by and not searching and starting superfluous threads will make others call you out on it. I was not rude to you in any way.

not sure why you posted the same question.
in two different sub-forums.
but...
please refer here.
enjoy.
sh4d0w86.

sh4d0w86 said:
not sure why you posted the same question.
in two different sub-forums.
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I know why...

Miami_Son said:
I know why...
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...doesnt matter why.
just didnt want to post my response twice.
so. gave a linky to my post on his other post.

[Q] HTC TyTN II does'nt boot with Android

Hi, I have read and follow al the steps in the thread "How to replace Windows Mobile with Android (Guide)", including the step by step "HowToInstallWithAtoolsNand" in SourceForge.net but I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.
I have my TyTN II with 3.34 HardSPL and the latest Radio ROM that I use to load alll the Windows ROM without any problem. But when I flash my ROM with and Android build what it happens is that afterward it installs it, when the device is booting it appears a message saying "Intall module for this kernel" and the boot process stops there.
Y tried putting inside /andboot folder directly the "androidinstall.tar" that I downloaded from the thread's build (for example the "Incubus26Jc's Super E Cmod 5.0.8 T4 Beta 3". Also I tried to open that "androidinstall.tar" in atools, mix it with 2.6.32 modules and generating a new androidinstall.tar and putting it together with install-seq.sh inside /andboot following all the steps explained in "HowToInstallWithAtoolsNand" but always happens the same.
Can anybody know what could be happening?
Thanks in advanced.
Guido.

Common problem answered here 10.000 times... just try to search...
Perhaps you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848921

To start, use a newer build. Then you won't need any updates. The latest builds from thoughtless kyle,clemsyn,scoot and I all have the necessary fix needed. If you want Cyanogen Mod then use scoot or mine. Our builds are based on CM 6.1 which is much newer with more features.

When you participate in a forum, you always have the posibibility to not replying or do it. If you are gonna do it, try to reply something clever. Nobody is putting a gun against your head to reply. If you don't feel like replying, just don't do it.
I have a problem, I do a quick search and if I don't find what I'm looking for, I just open a new thread. I don't have all my life to look for the answer of the problem. If you like to spend all your time indise this forum, go ahead, nobody is gonna stop you. I don't like to do it. I look for answers, no foolishness.

guido_7701 said:
When you participate in a forum, you always have the posibibility to not replying or do it. If you are gonna do it, try to reply something clever. Nobody is putting a gun against your head to reply. If you don't feel like replying, just don't do it.
I have a problem, I do a quick search and if I don't find what I'm looking for, I just open a new thread. I don't have all my life to look for the answer of the problem. If you like to spend all your time indese this forum, go ahead, nobody is gonna stop you. I don't like to do it. I look for answers, no foolishness.
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You you get all your answers from quick searches, you start to become lazy and unable to search properly. This is a BB, where all forums, threads, and posts are permanent. Available always. They are, so that others can come, read, SEARCH, and if, and only if they don't find the answer, open a thread.
Now, if we didn't wanted this... perhaps the dev's would have opened a chatroom on IRC and we could all be there to answer THE SAME ANSWERS over and over again.
Oh by the way, please explain how can you participate in a forum... without ever replying ? And he did answer something... as you putted it yourself... clever.

Listen...why don't you spend your time answering my question instead of bla bla bla about forum uses.
Do you like to spend all your time making searches, searches, searches and more searches?? Go ahead...Let others do what they want. If you don't agree, just keep your mouth closed and go to another thread more important than mine.

guido_7701 said:
Listen...why don't you spend your time answering my question instead of bla bla bla about forum uses.
Do you like to spend all your time making searches, searches, searches and more searches?? Go ahead...Let others do what they want. If you don't agree, just keep your mouth closed and go to another thread more important than mine.
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You don't like to read
Your question has already been answered
I like to solve the problems on my own
If i can't, i like to read. I don't want to solve it, i want to understand it
This is XDA devs. We develop, and help to develop and test. You wan't answers ? Call microsoft, htc, or whatever.
this is NOT your support forum. No one, owes you nothing here, except for respect.
Respect, you showed NO ONE when you don't even try to read the posts others have put here for you.
Now, stop being like that, go to the sugested thread, and learn how to fix your problem and to have some humility and respect.

daedric said:
You don't like to read
Your question has already been answered
I like to solve the problems on my own
If i can't, i like to read. I don't want to solve it, i want to understand it
This is XDA devs. We develop, and help to develop and test. You wan't answers ? Call microsoft, htc, or whatever.
this is NOT your support forum. No one, owes you nothing here, except for respect.
Respect, you showed NO ONE when you don't even try to read the posts others have put here for you.
Now, stop being like that, go to the sugested thread, and learn how to fix your problem and to have some humility and respect.
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I understand why your "thanksmeter" is in cero.
Please...shut up and don't write any more in this thread...From now you are not allow to write a word in this thread.
Go to c++ forums if you like to develop.

guido_7701 said:
I understand why your "thanksmeter" is in cero.
Please...shut up and don't write any more in this thread...From now you are not allow to write a word in this thread.
Go to c++ forums if you like to develop.
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Well... if a mod/admin forbids me, i will. You have no authority here.
As for the thanks meter, i have no comments.

lol now its not zero.

aceoyame said:
lol now its not zero.
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cause that is what the real community is ment to be or not?

So this guy thinks devs are forced to solve his problem? Have some selfesteem and try to solve it by urself, even my toddler could do it... Im starting to realize one of my college proffesors is right.... Windows stupifies people! (look at win7 logo: your PC simplified) Its like a black box when you cant see whats going on inside, you only have to now the input and output part of the system, ubuntu in the other hand forces users to learn some basic commands... the world would be a better place to live if we all had linux on our computers...

I just love it when people think that every site that offers something is required to offer support.
Not true, infact in the real world almost EVERY company in the U.S. of A does NOT have their own support, in fact it comes from 3rd party.
Same concept here, infact on this site, the userbase is filled with hardware tinkerers, software programmers, developers, IT professionals, etc, etc. They provide this stuff to you at no cost, and without warranty, meaning NO support unless it's something on their end (ex. programming error, etc), and then they provide fixes, which in case they did provide a fix in terms of a update package for android to fix the modules error.
I was the unfortunate one to run into this problem as well, and tried frantically to search for a reason why until I made a post explaining I couldn't find the source of the problem, and then they pointed me in the right direction and I went from there. Granted I ran into a second problem of my device running out of memory trying to apply the update, but that was an entirely un-related issue that I solved myself.
I myself am a hardware tinkerer, I love to break things, then fix them. I repair PCs, Laptops, hell even TVs in my spare time.
In retrospec. Things don't always work 100%, but for 95% of the people here, they go out of their way to try and fix it themselves and solve it themselves.
Everyone's right, there is a search button on these forums, and it takes probably 2 clicks to run a search, very simpl..... oh wait, Windows 7 can do it in 1 click, so I'm guessing 2 clicks is too complicated for you....

Q & A huh? Okay I have a question, about the new format here. What the heck?

Yeah, um. I don't know how to say this without sounding offensive. But the new format this page has. SUCKS! Oh yeah, I gotta ask a question. Alright, here goes. Why is it that I can enter something in the search bar here up to the right, and get NOTHING on a subject that I know for sure is here on XDA? I don't get it, and suddenly feel retarded everytime I try to use it since. It's a good thing I have a buncha bookmarks on my PC or I'd get totally lost within your search parameters. Believe me I already have more than a few times. Yeah, I'm obviously frustrated with it enough to write this little note for all you Admins, Moderators, whoever it is thats running things around here. Look, I should be able to enter something into the search bar and find it. But someone decided to change something that wasn't broke to begin with and now it's being difficult! Take this for an example. I'm researching a project I want to start. So, usually I would first start out in the search bar. Now go ahead, I dare ya! Enter this: Samsung Galaxy S Relay. That's an "exact" search parameter. Again with the no offense but, can any one of you tell me why I get directed to some page not even related? Where'd it lead me too? How to Root Any Device. Please fix your search parameters!

Casper Young said:
Yeah, um. I don't know how to say this without sounding offensive. But the new format this page has. SUCKS! Oh yeah, I gotta ask a question. Alright, here goes. Why is it that I can enter something in the search bar here up to the right, and get NOTHING on a subject that I know for sure is here on XDA? I don't get it, and suddenly feel retarded everytime I try to use it since. It's a good thing I have a buncha bookmarks on my PC or I'd get totally lost within your search parameters. Believe me I already have more than a few times. Yeah, I'm obviously frustrated with it enough to write this little note for all you Admins, Moderators, whoever it is thats running things around here. Look, I should be able to enter something into the search bar and find it. But someone decided to change something that wasn't broke to begin with and now it's being difficult! Take this for an example. I'm researching a project I want to start. So, usually I would first start out in the search bar. Now go ahead, I dare ya! Enter this: Samsung Galaxy S Relay. That's an "exact" search parameter. Again with the no offense but, can any one of you tell me why I get directed to some page not even related? Where'd it lead me too? How to Root Any Device. Please fix your search parameters!
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Sorry you're having trouble, but I get relevant search results using Samsung Galaxy S Relay.
Try clearing your cache? A different xda theme? Or to test, try another browser?
You can browse the devices section too, https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s-relay-4g
Good luck! :good:

Darth said:
Sorry you're having trouble, but I get relevant search results using Samsung Galaxy S Relay.
Try clearing your cache? A different xda theme? Or to test, try another browser?
From my tab, this is vastly different. I have to say, impressive compared to what I see on my pc. I'll clear cache. Thanks.
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Casper Young said:
Try clearing your cache? A different xda theme? Or to test, try another browser?
From my tab, this is vastly different. I have to say, impressive compared to what I see on my pc. I'll clear cache. Thanks.
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Next to the search bar , there's a button called "search plus" , click on it and you'll have the right search bar ( the little one you were using is to search between article from XDA Portal)

Okay, I'm back for a follow up, because this seems to be an obvious difficulty and I'll bet I'm not the only one that may be having issues with this. It's a navigation thing about the current format I see here on XDA. I noticed it a few weeks ago and it's not my cache. When I'm on my tablet I can navigate fine, but when I come here on my PC it's another story, and it's very frustrating. That's why you got this question before you in such a way. You guys who may understand it having set it up know how to get around. As I mentioned before it used to be fairly easy, now it's stupid not to belittle you. The problem is that it has suddenly become difficult to search for things in a normal maner. I use the search bar, which should dirrectly link me to what I am "specifically" looking for and let's put aside the search plus for the moment. If I'm searching for something that I know is there and I type in certain words that should bring me right to it, my question is, why aren't they! I'm getting redirected to some page, often of no relevance. And here's where I'll bet this is happening to others. So what's going on? There's a problem with your search bar, and I'm letting you know it's kinda frustrating. I can navigate through here with other ways, that's not a problem. I got some bookmarked, subscribed to, ect. The issue is that the search bar in itself is broken! Whatever you guys did to it, I saw it, pointing it out! Now fix it please. This might help. I noticed a difference about two weeks ago. Not sure what it is or was. I even cleared out from my PC anything that would suggestively lead to it being my PC settings. Being a good enough percentage to say it's not, it's therefore XDA.
On a side note for all you Admins and Mods. I've been coming here over 10 years now, I got questions and suggestions. But right now my suggestion is to please eliminate some obvious confusion I've noticed that affects an average user to navigate through your search areas.

Oh! Okay, there's the sudden difference!
[QUOTE( the little one you were using is to search between article from XDA Portal)[/QUOTE]
Wow. Really? Let me ask you something about what's that all about and why did this change and for what possible reason. And then why isn't there some notice the the search bar is no longer effective as it's says it is. I'll point for you guys that the search bar says QUOTE; Type device or find apps, ROMs & more. It does not say, "This is where you go to find stuff barely relevant to what you're searching for". Does it! Sorry that this may sound offending buuut. Bad words! To me, the search bar suddenly became a joke, and a bad one at that! Articles are nice but that's not what I was looking for. And in no way was I expecting to end up there.
Okay, so here's a basic question. let's put this on the table so to speak. I don't know why you put a link to articles in the search bar in such a way to begin with. It doesn't really make sense to me. Especially with your nifty new format of where everything is, except articles I'm going to guess. So you put them in the search bar with no notice of. Can you explain all that to me? Cuz right now I'm sorry to admit, I'm kinda laughing at this. I can just imagine all you went through, even deciding on how to change the old format to what I see now. It's good. However, when it comes to the search bar, whatever idea you went with. It's one that didn't notify anyone that the search bar isn't what it says it is~!

Ignoring your saltiness, why dont you use google and append each search with xda..

Casper Young said:
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Wow. Really? Let me ask you something about what's that all about and why did this change and for what possible reason. And then why isn't there some notice the the search bar is no longer effective as it's says it is. I'll point for you guys that the search bar says QUOTE; Type device or find apps, ROMs & more. It does not say, "This is where you go to find stuff barely relevant to what you're searching for". Does it! Sorry that this may sound offending buuut. Bad words! To me, the search bar suddenly became a joke, and a bad one at that! Articles are nice but that's not what I was looking for. And in no way was I expecting to end up there.
Okay, so here's a basic question. let's put this on the table... !
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You seem to be angry and it's a pity. Did you try the suggestion provided by RaiZProduction in a previous post? Does the Search Plus button (see my screenshot attached) allow you to find what you are usually looking for on XDA Forum?

You might want to step back a second and read carefully!
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You seem to be angry and it's a pity. Did you try the suggestion provided by RaiZProduction in a previous post? Does the Search Plus button (see my screenshot attached) allow you to find what you are usually looking for on XDA Forum?
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I'm far from angry. But check this out. This is the Q & A section is it not? So i'm askinfg a question about a difference I noticed and the A's I'm getting are a joke! Really? Hey Wood Man? You're deflecting. Step off unless you got something relevant to say. To those of you at XDA I now have a minor complaint! You people need to read what I said. I said I noticed a difference with the search bar and could someone tell me whats wrong with it. The answer I got was a confirmation that the search bar was not functional as it says it is and that's it. So. Mr Wood Man. Did I follow the suggestion you mentioned? Ahem! Are you asking to get put down blatantly or what? I made a post, RaiZProduction made a suggestion, what may I ask you is the post after that? Mine! A follow up. Before you decide to jump in there, you might wanna inform yourself better.. This here Q & A asked, "Rather than sending a PM to an individual Moderator, please feel free to ask questions in need of Moderator or Admin assistance. We will all be monitoring this thread, and someone will reply without much delay." Well, I obviously came to the right place didn't I? Everyone has a personal preference and I used the search bar a lot.

OK, I'll stop this here.
Answers were given, some with ideas, others saying all is fine for them. And also your opinion on the search is noted. However, it seems to work for everyone else, so not sure what more to say.
And honestly, your aggressive posts are getting a bit much, so I'll end this before lines get crossed. I suggest a more respectful approach in the future Sir. :good:
Thread closed.