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Reception with S620 Excalibur

Okay, I need help, I thought my network was too blame but I think it may be the S620. I've had other phones they've all worked in my basement, but this phone keeps dropping calls.
How do I know if I'm using the right bands; that is 850/1900?
I'm getting sick of dropping calls..... It will show good sig one second and then drop to nothing. I updated my Rom to then one that is posted here and I thought it got better, but it didn't.
Other than the basement thing, the phone is perfect.... but I don't get how my A1200, L2, Vk2000, Treo 650, w810i all worked fine in my basement and not this one, is it the fact that it's a Smartphone?
Any insight is appreciated.... Thanks in Advance.
oh, I'm with Rogers in Canada.

previously some of the HTC smartphone radio firmwares were known to have problem with US GSM frequencies. Namely: HTC Tornado.
could you please post your radio frimware details, please?

SecureGSM said:
previously some of the HTC smartphone radio firmwares were known to have problem with US GSM frequencies. Namely: HTC Tornado.
could you please post your radio frimware details, please?
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ROM version: 1.11.405.4
Radio version: 4.1.13.28_02.63.90
OS 5.1.342( Build 15097.3.0.1)
Rom update version:
Operator: 5.1.342.15097
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ok, this is most recent ROm as far as I am concerned.
could you please do following:
in device Settings -->phone--> networks:
menu--> select network.
wait for the list to populate. now select the network you are with. confirm.
now change network selection form automatic to manual. confirm selection.
that should improve reception in low signal situation.
I do suspect that connection is being dropped as soon as signal level is dropped below certain level.
please let me know if that helps.

SecureGSM said:
ok, this is most recent ROm as far as I am concerned.
could you please do following:
in device Settings -->phone--> networks:
menu--> select network.
wait for the list to populate. now select the network you are with. confirm.
now change network selection form automatic to manual. confirm selection.
that should improve reception in low signal situation.
I do suspect that connection is being dropped as soon as signal level is dropped below certain level.
please let me know if that helps.
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Yeah, as soon as there is one little bump or no bumps it goes silent and the call drops. I'll try the setting you gave and go from there. Thanks.

Can you please help with my reception.
Can someone please punch in *#*#364#*#* for me and tell me what line LAC reads. I believe this is what band the phone is using.
Mine is always on 1900, which would explain my calls dropping in my basement.
Please verify.
Thanks.

Mine says 1ea3 for lac. (tmo usa)

djdanska said:
Mine says 1ea3 for lac. (tmo usa)
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so much for that theory, I guess my network is not that good with this phone. My brother's 9100 doesn't drop calls in our basement so I guess it's just my phone.

4mynikka, my Dash does this too. I really like this phone but the constant dropping calls and the calls going silent then drop (in my home with 3 -4 bars in the signal) is driving me nuts. Yesterday the only way I could get a good signal was to stand on one foot by the window. This is 2007 and the reception issues like this should be non existant in these kinds of devices period.
If I don't find a solution I'm selling my phone. Maybe it'll work better in someone else's house

tiguy99 said:
4mynikka, my Dash does this too. I really like this phone but the constant dropping calls and the calls going silent then drop (in my home with 3 -4 bars in the signal) is driving me nuts. Yesterday the only way I could get a good signal was to stand on one foot by the window. This is 2007 and the reception issues like this should be non existant in these kinds of devices period.
If I don't find a solution I'm selling my phone. Maybe it'll work better in someone else's house
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Being you live in Chicago, I would guess you might live in a brick structure? I know my reception in my house here is 100 times worse than at my parent's that have a frame house

Oh.. and btw...I have:
OS: 5.2.1236 (Build 17741.0.2.1)
Radio: 4.1.13.34_02.79.90
RIL 2.002

momentarylapseofreason said:
Oh.. and btw...I have:
OS: 5.2.1236 (Build 17741.0.2.1)
Radio: 4.1.13.34_02.79.90
RIL 2.002
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Momentary, I called into TMO yesterday shortly after I made that post yesterday. While on the phone with TMO, the tech did a test on my phone from there and then checked my area and discovered other complaints from TMO customers in this area and said the problem is due to some outages.
He asked me to remove my battery for 30 secs and power back up. After I booted the phone up, he then went on the say they should be back up and running full force by early this week and that my problems should go away...
Shortly afterward, I had my first 2 and a half hour conversation here at home. I must say, reception has been better than before now but its not perfect...doable but not perfect. I think those tests did something...whatever it was its working...

Best Radio ROM for T-Mobile UK

Hi, What is the best Radio ROM for my Vario II which curently has
Pro black 2.5
SPL 2.10 opli v7
Radio ROM 1.40
I use T-Mobile UK.
I don't think the signal quality is very good on 1.40 as I was on the phone and my wife said her voice was echoing...? I was using my bluetooth headset...but it never happened before the upgrade..? Before 1.40 I had 1.41 and I couldn't even connect to the network
Also, why does the start bar sometimes hide....? and how can I add a running programs shortcut on the bottom like I had on WM5..I can't seem to do it....?
Sorry for sounding like a newbie..I've looked in the WIKI but can't find it

I had some problems with 1.40, ranging from no radio at all to bricking the device.
What did you settle on in the end? I'm also on T-Mobile UK.

trapper said:
I had some problems with 1.40, ranging from no radio at all to bricking the device.
What did you settle on in the end? I'm also on T-Mobile UK.
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I'm still on the 1.40 and it works ok actually but I think it could be better.

I have had no problems so far with 1.40 radio and lvsw 23/4.

Hi,
I was using 1.40.30.00 and found it to be a great improvement over the other radio's
I mainly use my phone in West London and Central London.
I have now moved to 1.41.00.10 and will test it performance over the next few days.
Thanks
Msuk

Hi,
Radio 1.40.30.00 caused my battery to drain very fast. Since updating to version 1.41.00.10 I have had no problems.

I tried 1.41 but found it to be a bit less stable than 1.40 which I have gone back to. That seems to be about the best in my experience but they all have an issue with dropping calls/being unable to make receive calls if the phone is having problems switching back and forth between GSM/3G.

I found 1.40 my signal strength was very weak, compared to previous version i'd used, especially 1.38.
But i have just installed 1.41 and it seems better again, i'm going to stick with this for a while and see how i get on.
ps. i'm not sure the WM6 forum is the best place to be discussing radios

Thats wierd. I have the same setup as some of you guys and when I put 1.41 in my network didn't come at all. I don't really want to try it again. But i'm thinking if I should

I am using 1.38.30.1 - it feels much better than 1.40.. in terms of battery life and reception is stronger than my experience with all the other radios tried. Speed seems fine, HSDPA works fine. However I stay mostly on GSM to save battery due to poor reception at home and switch to 3G/ HSDPA only when really needed.

T-Mobile UK and 3G problems
Guys, please note that if you have problems with 3G coverage - for example missed calls or problems with making calls - it is probably network's fault, not necessarily Radio ROM. I was experiencing such problems while using original T-Mobile's WM5 ROM. People couldn't reach me while I've had full 3G coverage in Central London, and I also couldn't place any call at all. Switching manually to GSM-only mode solved all problems. I've complained to CS about that, they admitted to have some 3G issues, and gave £25 discount of my bill. Also, friend of mine having Nokia N70 also reported similar problems with 3G, he switched to GSM-only and is far more happy now.
Anyway, I was using 1.38 Radio for about 2 weeks with no problems whatsoever. Since yesterday I have 1.41 - so far, so good.

I agree. Switching manually to GSM used to solve the problem. In some areas it looked like GSM and 3G were changing every 2 seconds. But I do need 3G for fast browsing.

It may be network problems but you'd expect a radio to be able to switch seamlessly without impact the voice service though wouldn't you.

t-mobile UK radio trouble

I'm on radio 1.47 with black satin on tmob UK.
My mobile phone is useless when i speak to people all i can hear is a lot of crackle interspersed with words! I think they can here me.
Where can i find a radio to downgrade to and which is best for tmob uk?
ta
bb

No joy...
I have tried Black Satin on my phone and had no reception problems.
I have just tried my current set up (see sig.) using my T-Mob sim...I did not have any problems with reception.
There is the 1.48 radio from the AT&T rom listed in WIKI perhaps that will help.

bingobob said:
I'm on radio 1.47 with black satin on tmob UK.
My mobile phone is useless when i speak to people all i can hear is a lot of crackle interspersed with words! I think they can here me.
Where can i find a radio to downgrade to and which is best for tmob uk?
ta
bb
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bb,
I am on T-Mobile UK with the radio version 1.47 and have no problems at all. I am not sure that there was any advantage with the move to this radio from 1.43 and I have seen others indicate that 1.43 was a radio optimised for the UK so it might be worth changing to that.
All the radios are on this site here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms. You will also find links to the posts related to them so it may be worth a read. However, given your problem (which seems strange from what I have read and seen myself) I'd recommend checking you have HardSPL first then giving 1.43 a go. The highest numbers are certainly not always the best for everyone.
Good luck

t-mobile UK radio Problem
Try using radio 1.48, Im on t-mobile UK and using Schaps lastest 3.57a ROM with radio 1.48 its brilliant, no problems what so ever.

bingobob said:
I'm on radio 1.47 with black satin on tmob UK.
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Radio 1.47+Black Satin+T-Mobile UK = perfect for me.

i tried radio 1.47 and hardly got any signal so now using 1.43 wich is very good, did try 1.48 before and seemed very good holds on to 3g more than 1.43 i think so i'm going to go back to 1.48 very soon.

DT39 said:
i tried radio 1.47 and hardly got any signal so now using 1.43 wich is very good, did try 1.48 before and seemed very good holds on to 3g more than 1.43 i think so i'm going to go back to 1.48 very soon.
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So many of use are in doubt about the best radio - now if only we had a tool that monitored actual radio performance over a day or week of normal activity that could provide some form of objective assessment of performance of one radio and circumstances against another.
I find that for every 10 people in favour of a particular radio there are likely to be 10 more that think it is poor. Clearly locality (country/band/Edge/GPRS and 3G/HSDPA are all factors but? Can anyone create a capability to record forum user input for any given radio that also took account of location and provider - then we might more clearly see trends.
It is all too easy to be tempted by the latest radio and sometimes our assessments might well be clouded by anticipation rather than reality. I find that the apparent performance of the T-Mobile network is variable for even a given static location - that makes it difficult to make a sound judgement.
Ho hum... Shall I go back to 1.43 or give 1.48 a try?

I tried using 1.4.7 with Black Majic but it just didn't work that well.. I could here the other person perfectly however they could not hear a word I said.. I've upgraded to 1.48 and Black Satin and the reception is perfect (best yet) on T-Mobile UK.. only problem now is the wifi.
I've got a wireless N network and the signal in the house is full strength when connected however I have to manually click connect everytime using the option in the network settings.. The network is only using Mac Filtering so not sure what the problem is. I''ve tried to indicate that it is a hidden network but without joy. Anybody have any ideas?

1.46 is good for me (batt life is good too)
1.47 had issues,

Would it be possible to give your locations were you are experiancing these radio issues or bad call qaulity iusses please
Maxim123

Suggestion
Hi
Also T-Mobile UK - i have had problems with all custom roms - seems fine for a while then data dies requiring a reboot.
This changed with the new dopod release and 1.47.10 radio, then the latest sleuth 3.1 dev rom which is faultless for me.
I think the problem varies dependant on where in the uk you are, the sort of coverage you get - for the record im in Durham.
Steveapp

I'm in Cardiff, but I had issues in all South Wales with custom roms. The only one that worked fine with me is Orange 1.38.00.01 (I didn't even feel the need to try 1.48)

steveapp said:
Hi
Also T-Mobile UK - i have had problems with all custom roms - seems fine for a while then data dies requiring a reboot.
This changed with the new dopod release and 1.47.10 radio, then the latest sleuth 3.1 dev rom which is faultless for me.
I think the problem varies dependant on where in the uk you are, the sort of coverage you get - for the record im in Durham.
Steveapp
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agreed, but I'm still running an older radio and its working fine also. The Dopod rom is the nuts.
Neil.

Hi All
Im on Tmob UK and live in the Southampton area. I get a good signal in the area and frankly all the ater radios I have tried work ok. My particular problem is in builbding coverage in that I work in a large communications centre and inside the signal is poor to non existant. This is where I find the difference shows in the roms and the best for me is 1.27. It is one of the few roms that seems to reliably deal with a loss of signal and then reattaching the data connection after a period with no signal. It also seems to have the best poor signal acquisition.
Ive tried them all and have always gone back to 1.27, no others have been better and most have been worse.
Rob

problem with HTC tytn hermes 200

I bought an unlocked HTC TYTN Hermes 200 from a private party. He lives about 40 miles away from where I live and he used it with T-Mobile in California (I live in California also). Before I bought it, I tried it out (while I was in the same city that he lives in) with my T-Mobile SIM and made a phone call and the reception was clear.
Since I got home, I've had problems in 2 places (home and work which are about 5 miles apart) where I have 1 bar of reception and if someone tries calling me, it doesn't even show an incoming call on my phone, it goes straight to voice mail and if I try to call someone, it doesn't ring even once, it just says call ended. When I am at other places, I usually get decent reception (but not always).
I have tried flashing all of the recent radio firmware but nothing has made a difference. I also tried inserting another T-Mobile SIM and had the same problem. My previous phone (unlocked Treo 650) had really weak reception in those same areas but not this bad. The phone is not warrantied, according to HTC. I have made sure all my network settings are correct. It's running Windows Mobile 6. I think it might be a problem where the HTC antenna doesn't pick up a signal as well as weak T-Mobile reception.
Any ideas of what I can do about my problem ?

radio version?

I've tried every version from 1.38 to 1.48 and nothing changed with all of them. Right now I am using 1.40

Hmmm...
apparently there are no TyTn HW reason that can cause this problem...
Other peoples in that areas have low signal? (obviously yes)

vulkanxxv
well no not exactly....
wife has a razr with t-mo and it gets reception just fine. i dontknow anyone else with an htc.

towlieban said:
vulkanxxv
well no not exactly....
wife has a razr with t-mo and it gets reception just fine. i dontknow anyone else with an htc.
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Have you checked to make sure all the bands are active; like it is not set to only use certain frequencies and not others?

I have the band set to GSM (vs. Auto) and band is set to GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850). None of the other band settings seem to work.

oh and I updated the radio to 1.50. There is a small improvement where my phone rings half of the time when i call my cell from another phone.

HEY
I have had a simmilar problem in California, it doesnt make sence but what I did was flash the radio to the newest 1.50 and then re-install a new rom, and make sure you set the band selection to AUTO on both. NOT just the GSM-UMTS, but also the band frequency. and then power off the phone by pressing the off button and then turning it on. I have a TYTN too and HTC should warranty it, its guranteed for 2 years. Hope this helps.

jackieboy,
thanks for the tip. what rom are you using ? I am using black satin.
where abouts are you located ? I am about 1 hour east of los angeles I just want to get an idea if you are roughly in the same area as me.
Are you with T-Mobile also ?
After you did this, how many more bars of reception did you get ?
by the way, I changed network type from GSM to Auto and the band to Auto and no difference in reception. I haven't flashed a new rom yet though.

Try oficial ROM it cames with radio upgrade and is work very good for me.Also batery time increased .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320829

Why is my phone slow to find a network?

I have never had this problem with this phone before. But, after changing the radio to 1.54.70.11 it worked great... for a while. Then, it suddenly got really slow to find a network. I flashed back to the last ATT radio (1.54.07.00. Now it takes about 3-5 minutes to sign onto the network.
Any thoughts?
CRC's 13 NBS
radio: 1.54.07.00
AT&T northeast Florida.

data issues fixed.
Still very slow though

papageoff said:
I have never had this problem with this phone before. But, after changing the radio to 1.54.70.11 it worked great... for a while. Then, it suddenly got really slow to find a network. I flashed back to the last ATT radio (1.54.07.00. Now it takes about 3-5 minutes to sign onto the network.
Any thoughts?
CRC's 13 NBS
radio: 1.54.07.00
AT&T northeast Florida.
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Not sure how big florida is, but the doctor seems to have better luck with a 1.47.30.10 radio.

I had issues with 1.54.07.00 taking a while to get a signal after being inside a building or in a rural area that had no service. Sometimes I had to turn the phone off and back on in comm manager.
1.47.30.10 fixed that issue, but I am testing 1.54.70.11, just flashed it last night. I had been getting some dropped calls and such. Hopefully I don't have those issues. I'll be going back to 1.47.30.10 if I do.
btw I am on Cincinnati Bell Wireless in Ohio, and from everything I read, it seems to be very similar results with people on T-Mobile here in the USA.

zocster said:
Not sure how big florida is, but the doctor seems to have better luck with a 1.47.30.10 radio.
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I think at some point I had that one too. I couln't remember what revision it was though. I shall reflash with that one now and see how it does.

Anyone know of a mirror to the radio page? I can't seem to DL any of the files there. Just get 'page not found' errors at the rapidshare site.
Nevermind: Found this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400800
WOW!! That is a night and day difference. Thanks everybody!