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I just upgraded to WM6 and I installed the same applications which were installed back when I have WM5. One of them if SpB Plus, whereby I put the RAM icon (for running program) at the 1st tab.
I noticed that after running the same applications I typically used back in WM5 (messaging, Pocket Information, SpB Insight, Phone Alarm, etc.), WM6 didn't release the memory back as much as WM5.
Example (after running the above program, then closing all of them - NOT minimizing:
WM5: ~21 Mb
WM6: ~ 18 Mb
I tried this about 4 times with 2 separate 8525, one running WM5 and the other WM6.
Forgot to mention: the file that seems to keep growing after opening/closing application is filesys, checked using MemMaid.
Anyone experienced this?
Which version of WM6 are you running?
I am using LVSW Edition (2007-03-15). I haven't tried the 2007-03-20 since I get really tried re-installing different WM6 ROM and re-installing the apps over and over again. Sooo.. I am waiting to see if other have the same problem with various version of WM6 before plunging myself for another 4 hours of reinstalling everything.
lanwarrior said:
I am using LVSW Edition (2007-03-15). I haven't tried the 2007-03-20 since I get really tried re-installing different WM6 ROM and re-installing the apps over and over again. Sooo.. I am waiting to see if other have the same problem with various version of WM6 before plunging myself for another 4 hours of reinstalling everything.
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try this ROM and let me know how you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1180792&postcount=1
I was about to, but I held back because I want to ask if anyone, who have either the LSV or the Black WM6 ROM can tell me if they have the same issue, simply just by looking at the RAM level.
Not that I am lazy, but I have gone on installing ROM so many times it's just not fun anymore and hoping that someone can just post about the memory issue.
UPDATE: I found out that using SkTools "FreeRam" tool, I can free up the memory, but not by much (extra ~1-2 Mb).
lanwarrior said:
I was about to, but I held back because I want to ask if anyone, who have either the LSV or the Black WM6 ROM can tell me if they have the same issue, simply just by looking at the RAM level.
Not that I am lazy, but I have gone on installing ROM so many times it's just not fun anymore and hoping that someone can just post about the memory issue.
UPDATE: I found out that using SkTools "FreeRam" tool, I can free up the memory, but not by much (extra ~1-2 Mb).
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well y dont you install the ROM... and use Task Manager to see how much memory each program is using... and do bechmark tests like every hour or so if your really worried about it that much...
Read my post above: installing ROM and re-installing everything is not a 30 minutes gig. Plus, a real testing will involve normal usage, not just running 1-2 apps and watching the screen.
I merely asking for the community assistance for those who have installed the Black version or has noticed similar problem.
Why are you giving me nasty remarks? TIred of installing ROMS?
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Read my post above: installing ROM and re-installing everything is not a 30 minutes gig. Plus, a real testing will involve normal usage, not just running 1-2 apps and watching the screen.
I merely asking for the community assistance for those who have installed the Black version or has noticed similar problem.
Why are you giving me nasty remarks? TIred of installing ROMS?
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calm down... im not giving nasty remarks...
was mierly suggesting that you try it out... and leave task manager running and open the applications you are worried about to actually see if it is releasing the memory or not...
i also am sick of flashing ROMs everyday... but thats how you get to learn about different ROMs and their flaws...
I would suggest bringing this to SPB's attention as you seem to have a difference with WM5 and WM6. If this is a must app for you, then until SPB updates their software to be more friendly with the yet-to-be release crossbow OS, you should probably stick to WM5... think of all the extra time you'll have left over to do other things than install and test... especially if it's not fun for you.
Since the first WM6 ROM was made available, I've received WM6 compatible released software from SBSH, Wisbar, CE-Star (Chinese), Conduits, and CodeCity.
Here's one example:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10476
We got our hands on the ROM before developers got their hands on the SDK. He got the SDK 06MAR and identified challenges posed by the new theme. 10MAR confirmed he'll a new rendering engine for the WM6 product t WBL. 16MAR released the update. Nicely done Chris.
And many thanks to the Chef's who continue releasing build improvements that address both shortcomings of the original ROM and additions that make some of the features more convenient.
Walshieau, many thanks to you also for your many informative and helpful posts and contributions to the XDA community.
Cheers to All
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I would suggest bringing this to SPB's attention as you seem to have a difference with WM5 and WM6. If this is a must app for you, then until SPB updates their software to be more friendly with the yet-to-be release crossbow OS, you should probably stick to WM5... think of all the extra time you'll have left over to do other things than install and test... especially if it's not fun for you.
Since the first WM6 ROM was made available, I've received WM6 compatible released software from SBSH, Wisbar, CE-Star (Chinese), Conduits, and CodeCity.
Here's one example:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10476
We got our hands on the ROM before developers got their hands on the SDK. He got the SDK 06MAR and identified challenges posed by the new theme. 10MAR confirmed he'll a new rendering engine for the WM6 product t WBL. 16MAR released the update. Nicely done Chris.
And many thanks to the Chef's who continue releasing build improvements that address both shortcomings of the original ROM and additions that make some of the features more convenient.
Walshieau, many thanks to you also for your many informative and helpful posts and contributions to the XDA community.
Cheers to All
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happy to try and help...
I don't use SPB anything, any after about a day or so, I get about 19MB free. A fresh soft reset, gives me 25MB free.
@darkjedi
If the task manager icon is present in the settings menu (go to start>settings>system(tab)>task manager) then tick the top two boxes and when you press the X button it will actually exit the program you are using. You may have many programs running in the background which you are unaware of, by soft resetting this clears the memory and the programs present are those on startup.
@lanwarrior
Version 0.2 of WMXL has a memory cache fix cab, not sure if this will work on LVSW but it is worth a shot, the memory usage improves after installing this, might be worth a shot....if all else fails perform a hard reset and then maybe flash a different WM6 ROM (Black v1.2 or WMXL 0.2??).
I'm actually using the HTC Task Manager, and am closing the apps. I'm using LVSW 3-15-07 ROM. It's working great. It's not really a complaint honestly, just a little annoyance.
I used to love SPB Pocket Plus mainly for its X Button app, Battery meter and quick launch on today screen.
I did find it used to chomp extra resources and every time I returned to the today screen there was always a second or 2 pause while the today screen plugin refreshed.
I've since switched to Batti, Scott Seligman's Launcher and the HTC Task Manager. Same functionality but way less on system resources and memory.
gurubumsmack said:
I used to love SPB Pocket Plus mainly for its X Button app, Battery meter and quick launch on today screen.
I did find it used to chomp extra resources and every time I returned to the today screen there was always a second or 2 pause while the today screen plugin refreshed.
I've since switched to Batti, Scott Seligman's Launcher and the HTC Task Manager. Same functionality but way less on system resources and memory.
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Thanks for mentioning alternates to SPB PP, which is a disaster on Black v 1.2, in my and other's experience. I am going to get them and give them a try.
I mentioned SpB plus because I use their memory meter to monitor the memory usage for the device, irrespective of the applications, SPb or not.
I am going to remove SPB Plus, but I think this is not the primary cause. I have SpB Plus running overnight with no other applications running (today's plug-in or messaging auto-connect) and the memory usage didn't change.
I think it's more of opening and closing applications, whatever they are.
Those who are using NON-SPB applications but monitor their memory using whatever you have, let us know if the memory usage decrease far more than WM5 over time when you open and close applications.
I mentioned SpB plus because I use their memory meter to monitor the memory usage for the device, irrespective of the applications, SPb or not.
I am going to remove SPB Plus, but I think this is not the primary cause. I have SpB Plus running overnight with no other applications running (today's plug-in or messaging auto-connect) and the memory usage didn't change.
I think it's more of opening and closing applications, whatever they are.
Those who are using NON-SPB applications but monitor their memory using whatever you have, let us know if the memory usage decrease far more than WM5 over time when you open and close applications.
If you want to run SPB Pocket Plus, do not try Black edition. It has compatability issue. (I personally will not try any Black Edition again unless more than 10 people confirm the issue has solved.)
I need my phone device for work, can't be beta tester all the time...(more than 15 reflash on same Black Edition. Even the creator of ROM indicate the fixed, but he hasn'y really test it.... Personally, I like Black edition the most, but....)
I am currently running LVSW late edition, very stable. I am running OS only with more space edition. Radio 1.38.0.10 seems to enhance the battery life. Maybe I am using Black Edition's black theme.
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If you want to run SPB Pocket Plus, do not try Black edition. It has compatability issue. (I personally will not try any Black Edition again unless more than 10 people confirm the issue has solved.)
I need my phone device for work, can't be beta tester all the time...(more than 15 reflash on same Black Edition. Even the creator of ROM indicate the fixed, but he hasn'y really test it.... Personally, I like Black edition the most, but....)
I am currently running LVSW late edition, very stable. I am running OS only with more space edition. Radio 1.38.0.10 seems to enhance the battery life. Maybe I am using Black Edition's black theme.
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everyone has a right to post chump... but did you try the workaround and remove the Safe Mode?
if your going to bag someone's ROM... y dont u do it in the ROM's thread insdead of cluttering others???
Penske MB said:
......can't be beta tester all the time........
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Since these cooked WM6 roms available (Vanilla, WMXL, Black, LVSW, 3DES.1) are all based on early (possibly beta) versions of WM6 you WILL be beta testing them until we can get a fully stable version.
Its thanks to hard working individuals like Kyphur, walshieau, jasjamming, lvsw, olipro, pof et all ~(apologies if ive missed anyone out that REALLY should be mentioned) that these ROMs are getting more and more stable every time a new version is released, if you dont like using them then revert back to WM5. But dont go wragging on the authors just because software DESIGNED FOR WM5 doesnt work on them.
Id suggest cooking your own WM6 version as it may help you appreciate the work put into these releases....free of charge may i add.
Hello all,
With all the awesome chef's in the kitchen it is hard to ask this question... but I will.
I would like to know what the most stable WM6 rom is, In your opinion.
I have used Black 2.0... for 2 weeks (seemed flawless)
Then I tried Tried 2.5 then LVSW, and even Custel's ROM but get random freezes, I grab the phone and its froze, missed how many calls?? I can't have this.
Something I might be doing you say, possible but I have even installed no additional apps, and only sync to exchange. I see others having some various issues with differnet roms. So this prompted me to ask the question I have.
So whats the most stable ROM?
i use black 2.5 with his new memory.cab and works great no problems. what programs are you using b/c it may be related to them. maybe use sktools to delete some unneccesary programs from starting on boot and go from there.
Black 1.2 with a weeks+ of working it to perfection. No need to flash anything else for me until WM7 comes out. lol
Coming back to a froze device sounds like you have the sd card lockups, and not rom related, but if you dont have a card installed, dismiss my post.
I was using Black 2.5, I have a lot of freezes in particular when I activeSync and I do activeSync A LOT, (freeze about every 3rd time I activeSync). A few miss call, and call which I have no audio.
I switch to LVSW 4/23 (FULL version), currently with the same applications installed on Black 2.5, my phone seems to be running well, no freezes yet for half a day already. (ActiveSync more than 10 times already)
I am not saying there is any problem with Black 2.5 rom. A lot of people are very happy with Black 2.5. What I am simply saying is that with the set of applications that I need (a few of them are beta apps), LVSW seems more compatibility than Black.
P.S. Using PhoneAlarm, PocketInformat, CEStar, ISilo, Cyberon Voic Speed Dial, and SplashID
I've had no freezing issues, only app I install is im+
I am running Black 2.5 and I too am having similar ActiveSync problems. And it freezes every third time as well. Strange....
noop said:
I was using Black 2.5, I have a lot of freezes in particular when I activeSync and I do activeSync A LOT, (freeze about every 3rd time I activeSync). A few miss call, and call which I have no audio.
I switch to LVSW 4/23 (FULL version), currently with the same applications installed on Black 2.5, my phone seems to be running well, no freezes yet for half a day already. (ActiveSync more than 10 times already)
I am not saying there is any problem with Black 2.5 rom. A lot of people are very happy with Black 2.5. What I am simply saying is that with the set of applications that I need (a few of them are beta apps), LVSW seems more compatibility than Black.
P.S. Using PhoneAlarm, PocketInformat, CEStar, ISilo, Cyberon Voic Speed Dial, and SplashID
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Previously I was using Black 2.0 and never had one freeze. But since I upgraded to 2.5 I get random freezes like couple times a day, I suspect this could be due to the new OS build? Once I have time I would probably reflash it back to 2.0 cuz it's rock stable for me.
Black 2.5 is working sweet as for me.
Couple of freezes with LVSW and XDA Live, but nothing major, i had freezes with the OEM rom, its just what phones and computers seem to do these days!!
I;ll stay Black, but at the end of the day, use the rom, which you think you will get the best community support, has the best community friendliness and if you ever do have troubles, you shouldnt be troubles trying to fix them!
keep in mind that these ROMs are essentially beta (even if based upon the "final" WM6). they do not undergo the rigorous testing that a carrier would provide.
if you are unwilling to deal with this (and RTFW for answers), then you might be better sticking with the factory shipping WM5 roms...
I like Custel's rom, support is there, and rom is quick n smooth
LVSW 4/23
The full version of LVSW 4/23 is the most stable so far for me. This is the first of the WM6 ROMS I can open and run Netfront, Newsbreak, Pocket IE, Messaging, Camera, Resco Explorer, get a phone call at the same time and still have no freezing. I did a little tweaking to it, but out of the gate it is just fine. All I really needed to install in the Keyboard fix and the Cingular settings.
noop, the reason you freeze alot or crashes alot is becoz of CE-Star..all i know is LVSW does not have the problem, but all other rom does...
Don't use the one from WM5, i remember there is a lite version on this fourm (topic x01ht showing chinese or sth)
Why i know, coz i just install ce-star on black, it will never work..it will crash almost anything...The guy who made the lite has a re-edit version of Ce-star for crossbow, that you have to try your own..since all i need is viewing~
They are all good!
4bc said:
...but at the end of the day, use the rom, which you think you will get the best community support, has the best community friendliness...
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We are all one big happy community here at XDA Developers!
For me with the earlier round of ROMS LVSW 4/23 worked the best. Zero problems. Haven't finished trying out the latest batch yet so I can't say. The bottom line is that with these ROMS you really do have to try them all and make your decision on which one best meets your needs when coupled with the software that you use.
All of these cooks are turning out some nice ROMs, the problems are more frequently caused by programs that are not yet certified for WM6 and the cooks, of course, have no control over this.
I would also suggest not to use any program to clean your OS, e.g. memory maid as it seems become unstable for all rom after cleaning the system with this kind of software.
Hi all,
Thanks for all your responses. I agree support from this forum family is awesome. I also agree with trying several roms to find the one that best fits my needs (but I don't yet know what they are, I just moved from a treo 650, and prior was a treo 600)
I am on LVSW now, I will try it for a bit and see how it goes. I do like Custels as well... Hmmm decisions, decisions. lol
Well thanks again for your responses and thant you Chefs for all your diligent work. You're the Kings in my book.
Comparison Page???
Would it be posible for the creators of the roms to tell us ALL of the bells and whistles that each of them has on it, and someone could compile a chart or page to compare them all? Obviously, the Voice Dial function is important to me, and I dig the Space Invaders, but there is so much more. I would be glad to do it if I could get the info on each with which to begin. As for Stability; is there a way to do a survey that would allow us to rate them according to the opinion of the users here regarding speed of boot/reset and stability and whatever anyone else can think of?
I recently moved to the Dutty Premier Windows Mobile 6 - Full Edition - Version 1 and So far I am very happy with it. And it appears to have all the tools and toys I want and need . . . so far.
Thanks,
If one doesn't already exist, someone please set up a wiki page for comparisons and we'll sticky it.
V
vijay555 said:
If one doesn't already exist, someone please set up a wiki page for comparisons and we'll sticky it.
V
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This is the best there is at the moment.
Not my work just bringing it to your attn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
(bottom of page)
Custel Cingular 1.2
The only WM6 ROM I have upgraded to is Custel's Cingular 1.2. It was a problem free upgrade and I have not experienced a single freeze and the only soft resets I have done were those required to install other applications. Unless someone, including HTC or Cingular, comes out with a version that adds features that I can't live without (and are not added to these cooked ROM's on this forum as CABs), I will be happy to stay with my current version.
i m using artemis touch 4.0 full with cube from meschle
i was not facing such big memory leaks as they were on toms B&B 5.0
just a few days ago i installed SPB mobile shell 2.0 (got it frm development n hacking forum)as i had the spb now screen i disabled the htc home n surprisingly now the device gives around abt 23 mb free memory n it never leaks!!!!!!!!!!
is the htc home responsible for memory leak ????
Memory leak
I am facing this huge memory leak with AJE 2.0 French Rom.
Need to softreset every 2 or 3 days.
Tried to disable HTC home. (Did it from "parameters, today, elements, unchecking HTC Home). Then i softreset and get 23MB.
After a while goes down to about 20MB. Start some applications one after the otherphone, calendar, contacts, MioMap, Wifi, Bluetooth)
went down to 18MB. Run Oxios hibernate, and i am back with 20MB.
Seem to stay here at 20 MB. Will see with time.
You are right "HTC Home" has something to do with memory leak, but
is it alone? Is this pb from HTC, Microsoft?
I do not understand why this pb is not yet solved! If this will not be fixed soon, everyone having this anoying pb, will switch to Iphone!
Thank you "sheennick123456" reporting this case. I cannot understand the silence from AJE, Tom, about this.
Eric
me too
Meschles 'old' ROM didn't have that problem... Will try to reflash and then do it even twice...have heard that this sometimes is helping
fun0815 said:
Meschles 'old' ROM didn't have that problem... Will try to reflash and then do it even twice...have heard that this sometimes is helping
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This is a problem of all WinMobile6.1 ROMs...
Italian team is working to solve it!
cesconoa said:
This is a problem of all WinMobile6.1 ROMs...
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maybe i think the problem is with HTC Home & HTC Cube
ive seen this problem on most of the cooked wm6 ROMs but it was not there in my factory o2 wm5 & wm6
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sheennick123456 said:
maybe i think the problem is with HTC Home & HTC Cube
ive seen this problem on most of the cooked wm6 ROMs but it was not there in my factory o2 wm5 & wm6
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After disabling HTC Home was still leaking but slower.
Will try with HTC Cube disable, will see.
Memory leak confirmed
Hi sheennick123456, I have been using all the ROM's posted here for the last 2 years, [a BIG thanks to all developers who posted these fine ROM's for us all to play with..] and have found the same memory leak as reported by you, thanks for starting a very good thread to discuss this issue.
Since your post I decided to test my ROM's starting with my original O2 WM6 ROM (RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.50_03.06.90_Ship) which I have been using for a few days now, and with the below programs to test each ROM installed, and so far I have had only a minor 1Mb leak that is almost all recover using Hibernate program.
I am now going to try the Artemis Vanilla 4.01 ROM tonight with the same programs and will report back friday, UPDATE- same as original ROM with no leak I coulden't recover using hibernate.
O2 ROM Free RAM Approx: (Storage 43 - Program 23) minimal leak 1Mb
Artemis Vanilla 4.01 (Storage 47 - Program 24) minimal leak 1Mb
Programs used whilst testing:
izen QuickAcces Today 1.01
UltimateLauncher 1.2
BatteryStatus 1.05.001 (build 0272)
Task Manager 2.0 (build 30995)
Radio Scheduler 01.00.01
Google Maps 2.0.0.12
Thanks again to all at XDA-Developers for providing all the info and tools for us all to use...
Now testing next 2 ROM's..
As per my previous post there were no notable memory leaks with the original O2 rom and the Artemis Vanilla 4.01 rom, (no cube installed on these)
I am now going to test the versions of Black & Blue v5 without Cube, and then Artemis Touch 4.01 Vanilla without cube.
Will post results after a day of testing with each ROM.
@ gadjet
hey man ive used black & blue 5.0
has a terrible problem with memory leak sometimes it goes down to 12mb no option other than soft reset
currently i m satisfied with touch 4.0 full with cube ive disabled htc home n cube n no leak & it is much faster than official o2 wm6
In my humble oppinion the memory leak occurs from WM6 or WM6.1 itself.
The more I browse my "programs" and "settings" menu the less memory I have. It could be from the memory it uses to display the folders/icons/links. Even Oxis Hibernate can't free the memory from this.
The memory leak has nothing to do with HTC Home or Cube, or at least it's not the only cause. I cook my own ROMs and have memory leak too. I don't use Home or Cube. I use SPB products and still have a memory leak. As stated it's probably a problem of windows mobile itself.
There exist programs for freeing up memory for Windows XP too. Some programs stay in memory for a certain time to make the program start faster if you open it again. No idea if that's the case for WM too. This problem could be solved if every program you close sends a hibernate signal.
I noticed that if you open 5 programs in a row and close them one after another and hibernate after each you get more memory back than when you close all five in a row and hibernate after all of them are closed!
is there any other hibernating program than oxios
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After disabling HTC Home was still leaking but slower.
Will try with HTC Cube disable, will see.
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I've not HTC cube installed, the problem is in OS, what I've seen is a different memory use...
When I power-on my pda in the morning, my program's memory capacity is about 26MB, in the evening it is about 22-23MB...
But performances are not so different!!! I think this "problem" is created by the use of 3.13 drivers (biuld for WM6.0) in WM6.1, but this system has a different resources gestion (for example: is different also the battery status indication)
Still testing.
**Please note all my testing is on a XDA Orbit, therfore results may differ between devices etc**
Phew, flashed my O2 orbit about 30 times in the last 3 days, tried all the posted WM6 ROM's first, then went onto the WM6.1 ROM's. The only 2 ROM's which I found don't have a major memory leak are, 1-Artemis Vanilla 4.01 WWE ROM and 2-my original O2 ROM (RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.50_03.06.90_Sh ip), there is a neglabable leak of about 1Mb on these 2 ROM's, but is almost all recovered via the Hibernate program.
I am now concentrating all my testing on these 2 ROM's to see if the leak gets bigger when various programs like HTC Home installed etc.
Keep reporting back as this is a very important topic, I was amazed overall at the leak on most of the ROM posted here, which is a shame because of all the hard work gone into creating these excellant ROM's by the top developers, respect to all.
While testing all the ROM's I stumbled on a program that you can program the time of events like the time on and off for flight mode and soft reset's etc, its called CyberHorse AutoFlight v5.3.0 (http://cyberhorsen.go1.icpcn.com/autoflight.htm), so if you wanted to keep one of the top ROM's with a leak just program in a daily soft reset to recover the lost memory etc. Hopefully a solution will appear soon.
Be in touch soon if I don't kill my O2 Orbit with all this ROM flashing.
Still leaking
emottier said:
After disabling HTC Home was still leaking but slower.
Will try with HTC Cube disable, will see.
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With HTC Cube Disable, memory leak continue. As mentionned by one of you here, appear to be a WM6 pb. With WM5 i had also this leak. I do not have experience with WM6.1.
Does somebody knows if Microsoft and/or HTC are aware about this problem? I cant find
a description about this case by them!
Thank to all of you reporting here this annoying pb, which does not remove the excellent
job done by all "Rom Makers".
Eric
Leak with v3b3?
Est-ce quelqu'un peut mentioner si v3b3 a encore ce défaut?
Does somebody knows if v3b3 still experience this pb?
Merci d'avance.
pda viet wm6.1 rom,v3.62.61.18/CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 19199.1.2.0
vanila version,veeeeeeeery fast and stable.
download link 1:http://www.4shared.com/file/38244597...ified=7ed9855d
download link 2:http://www.mediafire.com/?ct2mnbmzjhl
Cool
Just flashed and errored out at 100%. I hit the reset button and it booted fine. So far it's quick.. will leave for the night and let you know more tomorrow when i've run with it a while.
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pda viet wm6.1 rom,v3.62.61.18/CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 19199.1.2.0
vanila version,veeeeeeeery fast and stable.
download link 1:http://www.4shared.com/file/38244597...ified=7ed9855d
download link 2:http://www.mediafire.com/?ct2mnbmzjhl
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any more data on this rom??
memory??
screen shots??
thanks
edward
info
Not big storage
Program: 23.93 free
Storage 62.11 free.
Comes with:
Adobe Flash Lite
Adobe reader
Audio manager
Display Switcher
PsShutxp
Voice Speed Dial
Office 07, Missing one note
advance config
Flashlight,
WM5torage
PHM Regeditor
PIM Backup
Synchro Time
HTC Home
standard games
Looks extremely similar to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376223
that said I'm going back to the other rom because it's Big Storage
it's A good ROM, not as fast as faria, all is working.
Can anybody post any other download links? The link above are veeeerrrryyyy slow so cannot download
I'm wondering where the newer build came from, or if it's faked like the BA ROM that was released under the same name. I'm not saying this one is, but it has happened before.
jdc said:
I'm wondering where the newer build came from, or if it's faked like the BA ROM that was released under the same name. I'm not saying this one is, but it has happened before.
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PDAViet's 6.1 ROM for The BA is not faked. I've been using it for a week or two. It's one of the best BA ROMs. For this reason, I might give this one a try.
rambo6 said:
PDAViet's 6.1 ROM for The BA is not faked. I've been using it for a week or two. It's one of the best BA ROMs. For this reason, I might give this one a try.
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Sure, it's not a WM5 or 6 made to look like 6.1. I should explain what I'm referring to.
There is a PDAViet WM 6.0 release for the Blue Angel (I still have my angel) with a faked build number (hex edited to make it look like a later build than it was). Since this build number is later than all the others available, I was wondering if the same thing was done.
If it works, great and dandy. I'm just suspicious of a ROM that's been edited to make it look like it's a later version, and slightly suspicious of any other ROM's from the group or person who did the editing previously. Really, I see no reason to do this, so I have to wonder what the motivation is.
Jdc:
I think you're right. I think PDAViet dummied up some earlier WM5 ROMs to make them appear like WM6 when they were not. He may have also copied some of Helmi's stuff and was criticized on this forum.
However, this guy has earned some credit. His WM6.1 for the BA is nothing short of superb. It's the first version which doesn't wake up all the time to keep the bluetooth working. It's simply the most stable WM6 ROM for the BA. Xplode's is good too. Enough about the BA.
I just flashed this ROM to my wife's Hermes. At first I could not connect to AT&T's network at all. Something in the extended ROM was making it so it wouldn't connect. So what I did was go into settings and used the "Clear Storage" function. As it rebooted, I soft reset it so that the contents of the Extended ROM did not load. After that I was able to get the phone signal and configure my device manually for AT&T.
I've flashed a bunch of ROMs on my wife's Hermes. I've only been messing with it for an hour or so but so far everything works and it's fast. I'll post more as I take it through the paces. I really like the threading Text messages. They take up less space and are easier to follow.
After trying this ROM for a day, I find it very fast and stable. The only fault I find is that there's no MMS. I tried to load Arcsoft 5.0.31.7 but it does not show all the settings necessary to us it.
This ROM even works with TCPMP so that one can view videos on YouTube.
All rom chef's
Hello, seeing this rom and not knowing who "Viet"(no offense) is, makes me feel like cooking mine up and putting a link from rapishare down 'er.
I do have a suggestion - that all ROM chefs make a post, where they put their Cooking resume down all we can check their credibility (if they cooked it themselves). and also to give us (people who like to use their ROM's a feeling of safety, before actually downloading anything.
Just a suggestion.... i hope other's agree with me, considering our hardware.
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
Well, so my questions:
is there a diamond theme for spb3.0?
i ve seen there s one for 2.1, but it s not working on 3.0
Should I put a ROM for my diamond?
I want it to be as fast as possible (and possibly the touch screen to be more sensitive)
Which ROM would you advise me? (and can it be compatible with SPB3?)
I m not asking how to do it, just the latest ROMS avail that are faster and smoother.
i haven t properly understood how i can see what is inside each rom.
basically i want GPS working, i want tasks and calendar, internet and wifi and radio.
maybe a better video player cause the ones i have do suck.
That's it, thanks guys!
EDIT:
i have WM 6.1 how should I update to 6.5? is it easy? free?
i can t update weather data with SPB MS 3.
I have internet, it works.
but when I click UPDATE it does nothing...
Yes its free.
Yes its easy.
Run hardspl on ur diamond, and download one of the roms in this forum, then connect ur phone via activesync, start the program.
Then ur set to go.
Sry if that was a little hard to read, but i just woke up
ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
iorga1 said:
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
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Flash ANYTHING else than the stock ROM and you will see about speed and smooth... And THEN compare it with SPB...
iorga1 said:
ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
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Win 6.5 is NOT OFFICIAL YET, so you can't have it in "preshipped" roms. What;s' out there is leaked betas.
Fast 6.1 Rom - Nataly (check Pietrucci's benchmarks), comes with kitchen so you can set it up the way you want.
Fast 6.5 rom - well, they are not THAT fast and consume more memory.
If you have manila CFC compressed, and a fast rom, then SPB doesn't offer any real advantages. It's just something different. I tried it, and, hmm... came back to TF3D. it's functional, smooth, etc. I tried to put out "i got used to it" factor, as you can get used to spb shell too. it's just that I didn't found any real (speed or memory) reasons to use SPB. And fork extra money for it on the top of it... TF3D is free after all....
As well, when it comes to the applications -you install what you want, don't expect to have tomtom in rom, apart from other things it's illegal.... ROM is a base. then you customize it (in kitchen ) or install what you want after.
Good luck in search for optimum config!
thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
SPB is just a today app, u can still use spb after installing new rom.
Belive me, if u install other roms like Energy ROM, it will be faster, smother and better.
After installing new rom just install SPB again.
Even if it looks like its older roms here, it aint.
Hope this answer will help you.
Cheers mate!
iorga1 said:
thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
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I STRONGLY suggest the use of searh feature:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512505
It helps ENORMOUSLY....
And in general - from the posts above I would suggest that you do first some reading. there's a lot of decent FAQ's here, as well as tutorials. Just read for 2 -3 evenings. It will be VERY beneficial to you, I hope.
After all, none of us was simply born with the knowledge.. And all of us had the 1st day with diamond, then some time on this forum, and then a lot of things became self-explanatory...
Good luck!
thanks guys
i read all this info a long time ago, did not upgrade, so I forgot a lot.
But I understand the ideas and the vocabulary
You said 2 things:
- upgrade the HTC site ROM. ok but it is not recognised when I type in my serial number. cause telefonica movistar SPN is a bit annoying for this.
as far as i remeber my readings, this would be solved when hardspl and ROM flashed.
- the numbers taht appear on the table, do not correspond to mines. So I guess this means I should get one of those, and try to proceed to the upgrade.
Is is worth? (i think it s better to get rid of that annoying logos and themes and crappy heavy processes shipped in the movistar ROM and grab the ENERGY one, or another one like Rhodian (have to read)
Anyway thanks for your answers.
I ll try to flash the ROM. First have to make a backup.
also i might have a dump of the ROM for guarantee purposes, done few months ago
cheers,
Hi,
Because speed is important, My suggestion is BsB ROM Specially Version J.(Windows Mobile 6.5)
Version L is slightly slower (Because of 10mb pp instead of 16mb-not big difference)
I'm using BsB ROM+SPB Mobile shell V3 and it works like a charm.
Good Luck!
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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I agree, but I must say that SPB 3 with a standard rom is a lot faster than any rom with TFLO that I've tested.
mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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Hi,
Thanks for the benchmark, but i have to say :
1) Bsb 6.5 ROM isn't in benchmark . i also can't see Energy WM6.5 ROM in this benchmark. These two are fastest available 6.5 ROMs for diamond (in my opinion)
2) in my personal experience, spb mobile shell 3 on Bsb ROM, is faster than any Other 6.5 or 6.1 ROM.(specially if you change pp to 16mb-default is 10).
3)I think Bsb ROM is Quick because of Excellent Memory Management. with Mobile shell 3 running, i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB.
Give it a try, i'm sure that you won't be disappointed.
Good Luck!
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
And about memory - so you say "i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB." hmmm. In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
SPB Benchmark Results for BsB 6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell
mjaxa said:
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
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Hi,
I agree that it comes to personal preference Completely.
SPB benchmark Results : (first after a full day working , second after soft reset)on BSB6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell 3 Running
Keep it in mind that Nataly is WM6.1 and BsB is WM6.5.
1)
Spb Benchmark index 741.55
CPU index 1766.19
File system index 344.06
Graphics index 3551.07
2)
Spb Benchmark index 765.9
CPU index 1776.53
File system index 359.16
Graphics index 3336.17
I also attached XML Result Files.
Good Luck!