CrAzY cHarginG ProBleMs in WM6 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I am using a generic charger with my m3100. When it is plugged into electricity my phone refuses to charge. A soft reset does not resolve this problem. When my phone is synced to computer via a USB cable the phone decides that it feels hungry and gobbles up electricity and charges itself, as if to taunt me. Its Bluetooth light flashes as if to try to intice me into doing something. I feel like Basil Fawlty and want to pick up a branch and hit my phone with it to teach it a lesson. I have not got mad..i am just frustrated with this as a major gripe with WM6 using a GENERIC charger designed for c500 but used to charge phone quite happily in WM5. The Car charger also generic also does not work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

what rom is this on?

You might want to read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277742&page=1
In order to accept a charge, the phone either has to sense data, or two pins need to be shorted together. It is possible that the WM5 ROM removed this requirement, whereas the WM6 ROMs seem to enforce it.
In my case, I had to modify the cable that came with my Garmin Mobile 20 in order to get it to charge the phone, even though it was supplying enough power. It was the stupid data/pin short check.
In fact, if you use a multimeter to beep the pins of the Cingular car charger (which charges flawlessly), then you'll find that those pins are shorted, it's at the cigarette lighter end.
-- Joe

This condition exists on both WM5 and WM6. There are charging cables that meet this standard (pins 4-5 shorted together on the miniusb side). Unfortunately most chargers don't comply.

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Where can I buy a working car charger for the Exec?

I would like to get a car charger that works with the O2 Exec when I am running navigational programs such as Garmin Que and TomTom. I have tried more than 5 chargers but no luck thus far.
If anyone has any to recommend, do let me know. I am located in Singapore.
i use my car charger from my gps that is the Holux 236, the only think i have to do so that it starts charging is turn it off on the button and the led will change to orange, i have tried one other charger that has a usb plug and it worked fine ! So has long as it has a usb plug you'll be alright and if you do not find one look for the Motorola car plugs that it will probably work on Uni since it has a mini usb plug
The charger from M3000 works fine with my Uni
And the Motorola Mini-USB chargers doesn't work...
Hi, I found that this issue is connected with proper usb cable not with charger itself (usb mini have 5 connector but in some cables only 4 are connected and in some other cables all 5 are connected and so are the difference). I was also trying many chargers and no luck. But I ve tryied charger with other cable and suddenly all chargers start charging my jasjar.
Anyway, the bad thing is it stops whitout any reason so now charging jasjar in my car is a real mystery for me.
regards,
Piotr
Be careful if buying one with a double USB output - I bought a few different models hoping to power both Exec and the Holux GPSlim-236, but all failed. They would power the Exec, but as soon as the Holux was connected, it would always cause the Exec to continually reboot - fortunately "soft". Make sure the supplier will take them back if it doesn't work.
Try a car charger with a USB socket on the end that takes a separate Sync/Charge cable.
The problem is, the exec is very power hungry, especially when the batt is dead !! you need a high current charger at least 1A (1 amp) the charger used with the blackberry (I forget which model) is suitable as is the genuine exec charger obviously.
use O2 Atom car charge
O2 Atom car charge will work with O2 Exec as well as A/C charger from Atom
Exec/SPV car charger...
Got an o2 branded one today for the Exec/Mini - works like a charm (Charges my SPV and runs Tt at the same time) but cost me £14.99 for the privelage!
could you post a link to the website? I would love to purchase one but am currently located in Singapore and so far all the charges don't seem to work for me.
vapor said:
I would like to get a car charger that works with the O2 Exec when I am running navigational programs such as Garmin Que and TomTom. I have tried more than 5 chargers but no luck thus far.
If anyone has any to recommend, do let me know. I am located in Singapore.
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I have one brand new that Imate sent me for a delayed process when i got my JASJAR repaired.Never used it either.Let me know if you are interested.Regards
southernint3l said:
I have one brand new that Imate sent me for a delayed process when i got my JASJAR repaired.Never used it either.Let me know if you are interested.Regards
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I would love it but can you confirm that it would charge the phone while running navigational programs?
You can email me at [email protected] to discuss the price and shipping.
vapor said:
I would love it but can you confirm that it would charge the phone while running navigational programs?
You can email me at [email protected] to discuss the price and shipping.
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Yes it does.I have TOM TOM navigation and IGO that i use.I have a 3800 Li-Ion battery.I plugged it in to see if it worked and it does.Has a green light and all.I will email you tmw.As i have just got done with a long day of data entry for work.FYI
Whatever you are doing with the phone,it charges while its plugged in.
southernint3l said:
Yes it does.I have TOM TOM navigation and IGO that i use.I have a 3800 Li-Ion battery.I plugged it in to see if it worked and it does.Has a green light and all.I will email you tmw.As i have just got done with a long day of data entry for work.FYI
Whatever you are doing with the phone,it charges while its plugged in.
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sounds great. I have gotten your email and replied. Hope we can come to a decision soon and I can get my hands on the charger.
if anyone else has any for sale, do let me know as well.
Car Charger for UNI - how to make working
Hi All!
I've also tryed 2 diferent car chargers and 1 USB Pluggable Car Charger (some noname chineese 3-rd party) with 3 diferent cables, and one 3-rd party AC Power Charger. They ALL worked strange.
I can confirm that to make them all work I should:
1. Switch off the Universal;
2. Plug in the chgrer in to Universal;
3. Wait until the Red Light on.
Now I may turn the Universal On, and see the "Charging" battery status.
The reason and how to fix:
As you may see I used different adapters. All they have from 0.5 to 1.0A output circuit. But, the USB ports I used with my laptops have only 0.5A output and always start charging the Universal.
So, I dont think the output power is the reason.
The most likely - it is the "5-th pin" issue, which is mentioned above here. Can somebody provide information about power connection for the Universal?
It seems the solution is about to interconnect/short circuit 2 wires in the car adapter' cable to make the Universal charging in a usual way with any of my (your) "non-working" car adapters.
Also, I've noticed, that in a case the battery level around 30% and I plug in the "non working adapter" and no red light and system not is in the "Charging" state -- the battery is charging anyway!
Also, let me remind you about another issue that the Universal have: Active Sync (older versions) would not sync (USB Device not recognized error) if you plug in the Universal if the power is On.
To workaround that you have to switch off the Universal, plug the cable and after that you could successfully sync. The same symptoms? May be the same reason?
I would advice anybody not to mess with interconnections in USB, I mean stop soldering and checking because its shortest road to bricking Your precious jasjar. It can be done with proper cable and you have to find the right one ;-)
Secondly - I found that jasjar Rom is also responsible for charging issues. As I stated earlier I finally found good usb cable but later on I lost an ability to charge Uni. in the car. After upgrading to the Aku3.2 rom it start to charge immidiatelly. Same charger and cable - one time it charge, second time it dont. So additionally to cable theres something with soft with preventing Uni. from charging.
man why is it such a complicated issue to get the universal to charge? and it seems that this charging problem only happens to the universal and not any other device, am i right?
nabuhonodozor said:
I would advice anybody not to mess with interconnections in USB, I mean stop soldering and checking because its shortest road to bricking Your precious jasjar. It can be done with proper cable and you have to find the right one ;-)
Secondly - I found that jasjar Rom is also responsible for charging issues. As I stated earlier I finally found good usb cable but later on I lost an ability to charge Uni. in the car. After upgrading to the Aku3.2 rom it start to charge immidiatelly. Same charger and cable - one time it charge, second time it dont. So additionally to cable theres something with soft with preventing Uni. from charging.
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YESSS! I Have upgraded to on of that Aku3.2 recently! May be it is the reason! But, my original Power adapter still charges my Uni so does the USB conndction to the laptop...
To ALL: Could you please confirm that you can use third-party adapters with the older ROMs?
hopefully we can get some updates soon.
Are all chargers alike?
Are all chargers the same? I would think that the USB power rating would be the same. So, I should be able to charge the Jasjar using a charger for a Motorola RAZR (if I weren't so afraid of blowing up the Jasjar)

What's with the car charger problem and cooked ROMS.

I flashed the official WWE rom repackaged by Mr Vanx and the car charger worked OK
I flashed Schaps early version 3.57a and it charged OK in the car. New 3.57a doesn't :-(
Black satin and Sleuths new ones don't work either with car charger.
This a a major problem for me with Tom Tom on for several hours at a time, and I do not want to go back to WWE repackaged after seeing so many nice ROM's ;-)
Is there a fix for this?
I tried searching before posting but could only find one question on this and no answer #335 in Official AT&T thread.
Also see #35 in Farios ROM thread (WM 6)
Al
i had no problem with anyone of the ROM you talk about (all tried) and car charger
I have had the car charger problem too! Except I had it back with the stock WM5 ROMs as well, so I don't think it is related to the cooked ROMs.
Sometimes my car charger simply would not power the device, unless I did a soft reset. This happened using both the Y-connector and direct mini usb. I don't seem to have the problem nearly as much with the WM6 cooked ROMs.
Anyone know where this problem comes from?
I just thought it was a dodgy car kit, i find a soft reset sorts it out.
non-HTC chargers can be modified to work 100% without any software modification.
Simply pry open the mini-USB male plug and link/solder pink 4 and 5 together.
Pin 4 & 5 are the pins on the right side (when the pins are facing UPWARDS)
I did this with one of my mini-usb cables and now it can charge my HTC with any USB power source.
Laptop in stand-by mode
USB wall charger
2xAA USB portable charger
USB car charger
etc
I have the HTC car charger which was offered as a promotion with the Cingular 8525 when it was introduced late last year. This charger does not pass enough current to keep up with high current draw situations like a very low battery (and possibly heavy device use?) I think it may only put out 500mA. I would try a charger which puts out 1,000mA first and see if that fixes the problem.
Did work before WM 6
The charger I am using worked perfectly before WM6 flash, so I doubt if it is a current problem.
Only other possibility is that wm6 changed the USB somehow (unlikely)
UPDATE _ Well a soft reset and it now charges. I just hope it doesn't require SR regularly when travelling in the car
Al
The Cingular charger that I have makes the phone charge every time, flawlessly, no soft reset required.
My Garmin GPS 20SM on the other hand does not connect pins 4 and 5 together, and thus will not charge the phone. If I do a soft reset after connecting it to the phone, it is fine. Trying to connect the pins in the charging cable together resulted in blowing up the charging module (in the GPS, the phone is fine). There is the possibility that I screwed up the solder job somehow. The funny thing is that I opened up the mini-USB connector side of the Cingular car charger and probed it using a multimeter - the same two pins that I connected together in the Garmin charging cable were shorted (either in the cable, or at the cigarette socket end, the pins were not connected together in the USB end).
I have actually sent an e-mail to AT&T requesting that they fix the software restriction preventing car chargers that send enough power to charge the phone (like my Garmin GPS 20SM). Whether or not they ask HTC to do it, that's up to them. HTC apparently will not fix this issue without prodding from the individual operators (that's what their e-mail to me said).
-- Joe
I've an old Black 2.0
The same problem for me with the car charger....sigh
I'm running Majick & get the same. All was fine before I upgraded from WM5, but now the charge light stays on only if I've done an immediate soft reset or once it goes to stand-by. My BT headset connection also drops after about 5 mins of non-use, unlike when it's charging.
i think this issue is only related to the pin of the USB car charger connector. First time i put my hermes in my old car charger i used with my Wizard, i get this issue... i change the ROM several times, and every time i get the issue... then, after some research i buy a charger for hermes, and after this, i never have seen this issue with all the ROMs i have tried... and tried every ROM Now i'm on Sleuth 3.1 and, of course, no problem with the charger.
Seems also that somes ROMs have something modified to bypass this issue by software, but don't know wath...
So my recomendation is that you look for one specificaly hermes charger and not one with the USB cable removible.
Good luck.
More on my charging woes - ROM Chefs - help needed
Well today I plugged my phone into the car charger and nothing happened again. I did a complete restart (hold off button then confirn shut down) and after restarting it worked again. Take the charger plug out and put it back in, then nothing.
I may look for a Hermes charger but expect they are expensive. Until then I think it will be back to the boring official release as I can't be bothered with an SR every time I get in and out of the car.
My charger is not a removable cable type but a cigar plug one end and a solid USB the other. I don't think it is current related either since I had it working with TomTom on a low battery on several occasions on the WM 5 rom.
Perhaps some of the talented ROM chefs can figure it out ;-)
Al
@Alabama,
When you experience this problem is it after having had the phone tethered or connected to your computer via the usb? I ask because this is a known problem with the 6700. It has something to do with the unit converting from one current to the other. Personally I suspect it has something to do with the SPL version. I'm afraid the soft reset is the recommended fix. I have seen this with a couple of the Black ROM's.
Currently I use vp3G's v3 and it has gone away.
I asked Faria about this in one of his threads and he said it has something to do with the power management settings in the ROM itself. If we can edit that, then the car chargers will work.
jcespi2005 said:
i think this issue is only related to the pin of the USB car charger connector. First time i put my hermes in my old car charger i used with my Wizard, i get this issue... i change the ROM several times, and every time i get the issue... then, after some research i buy a charger for hermes, and after this, i never have seen this issue with all the ROMs i have tried... and tried every ROM Now i'm on Sleuth 3.1 and, of course, no problem with the charger.
Seems also that somes ROMs have something modified to bypass this issue by software, but don't know wath...
So my recomendation is that you look for one specificaly hermes charger and not one with the USB cable removible.
Good luck.
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I actually have the Cingular charger, and it works fine with my phone. But, if I want to use it and the GPS 20SM at the same time, then I need two cigarette lighter outlets, and my car only has one. So, I'm getting by with using a splitter to power both units simultaneously.
It just sucks having to do that when the GPS 20SM is providing a perfectly good power signal that can be used. And after proving to them that they need to provide a cable that works specifically with the Hermes, they have mysteriously become silent on the issue. My only hope here is that HTC fixes the firmware as to not block it (as the same cable works with a T-Mobile SDA).
-- Joe
car charger problem
just to confirm same issue here, subscribing for the toping and awaiting resolution
In Schaps' thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318849&page=75
schaps said:
I also asked Faria, he told me that he can't remember what he changed in power management settings... I will look for it later.
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We'll just have to keep our fngers crossed...
i found a trick. if you plug the car charger and then turn off the phone it starts charging even if you turn it on again
Assuming that you are talking about actually powering down the phone (hold the power button, as opposed to just a quick press, which "suspends" it), this is roughly the same thing as the soft reset trick. Suspending the phone and then bringing it back on does not work (with vp3G's ROM anyway).
My only beef with the soft reset trick is that the phone takes 30-45 seconds to boot, which is a pain when I want to use the GPS application.
-- Joe
Yes, but only when the phone restart (hold the power button) the charge
re-work (and the orange led turn it on...)
There is no solution when the led turn off...plug..re-plug the cable, unplug all the charger....Turn off the car...and (google translation...) "come down from the car to take one fresh air puff"… ahahah

Car charging issues

I have found that when charging my HTC phone (Kaiser now, used to be a Blue Angel) in my car, if I use a cigarette lighter splitter (So that I can charge another device too) that even if nothing else is plugged into the splitter, the phone will not charge properly. It seems to get enough power to maintain charge, but if I am low on batt, then charge the phone and use it for satnav while I drive, when I finish the journey, the phone has not charged.
This does not seem to be the case if I plug the phone charger directly into the cigarette lighter socket instead of via the splitter.
Knowing a little about electricity, I guess the splitter is running the sockets in parallel or something and dividing the power between the sockets?
Any ideas on what I could do? I would imagine a car battery has plenty of power, maybe it just isn't being distributed properly. I guess the splitter is possibly limited such that it can't pass too much power if only one device is connected?
All the devices I want to use can power from USB, so I am guessing that the solution is maybe a USB hub designed for car use. I have 3 items typically that I want to be able to charge, so a 4 port hub would be nice. Anyone know where to get one in the UK?
I've got the same issue with my car charger (HTC Mogul phone), although for me it doesn't matter whether I use a splitter. Where did you get your charger? Maybe it just isn't supplying enough power.
While it's true that having two devices in parallel causes half the current to flow to one and half to the other (assuming they have the same resistance), the power supplies should be more than capable of pushing enough current for each device, especially when the car is running (and you're getting your electricity off the alternator).
well I thought it could be a dodgy cable but I just got an official HTC car charger for my kaiser and am observing the same thing.
It could have been the cigarette lighter->USB converter or the retractible sync cable I used to use, I will do some more tests and see if I can work out which bit is causing the problem - it wasn't until just recently that I had an official end-to-end solution (ie one HTC car lighter to miniusb cable) so I will try connecting it up various ways, but it isn't exactly quick to test if it is good or not as you need your phone low on batt and to be driving around for an hour or two to see if it is charging properly.
Flat Batteries
Seems XDA has software to prevent charging batteries which are too flat. (Perhaps to protect internal circuitry).
I recommend this thread which has a solution:
http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/2013#comment-3808
I made it work OK but it is a fiddly job. An external charger for these batteries would be great but I can't find one.
Good luck !
I have the same issue. The battery has refused to charge when its below 40% or so. I now carry a spare in the car, especially as I often depend on Sat nav working!
yeah I had that low batt thing happen with my BA once or twice.
Actually, now I have kept an eye on it, it doesn't seem that bad with my kaiser. I no longer use my car lighter usb adapter though - I use the HTC car charger into a 3-in-1 splitter (usb, extusb, 3.5mm audio) and from that into my Kaiser and it seems to charge the kaiser ok (albeit a little slowly) even when I have a cigarette lighter splitter also powering an RF transmitter.
So I think maybe the weak link was the car lighter to usb adapter, maybe it was outputting too little power on the USB rails.
Car Charger died
I'll jump on an old thread...
My HTC branded car charger (that I got from sending in the post card) worked fine for my Cingular 8525 until a few weeks ago. Then it got flakey and now it doesn't want to work at all.
My 8525 will still charge on my laptop connected cradle and the AC charger.
Has anyone seen any failures in these chargers?
Any recommendations on chargers that are reliable?
Dave.

TyTN won't charge with car charger??

Hi,
I recently bought a car charger (actually, it's a 3-in-1 kit, with USB-2-miniUSB cable, plug-in car charger, and travel charger). This set seems not to work with my TyTn, but work perfectly with other HTC pda's - Touch, Cruise etc. However, that cable works nicely when plugged to PC.
Anyone have a clue? Maybe, I should change some power management settings in the TyTN?
Thanx
Hi,
I have the same problem.
Sometimes is charging O.K. (when the screen is off and Hermes is in Standby). But if I have a Phone Call, or if I use the car navigation, charging won´t work.
(Everythink was O.K. with WM5, I think, but WM6 and WM6.1 has this problem on my Hermes - I tried many ROMs, now I use CRCs PHKv12r9, Radio 1.47.30.10)
Get an inverter from Maplins http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=48723&criteria=inverter&doy=3m4 for £19.99 you can then use your home charger...
Ah OK scratch that idea I didn't look at the flags before posting...
I have one, but the question is, why car charger won´t work.
I use the inverter with everything up to 300W without any problems.
I dont understand WHY people have this problem.... I bought a CHEAP little car charger that allows me to use a usb cable. I plug in, leave for a minute or so and it starts charging. Make/ recieve calls, use GPS software and never have a problem. I would say that the charger was made good BUT its a generic "made in china" charger.... Must've been BLOODY LUCKY to find it...
I had this problem with mine, sometimes it would charge, other times it would need to be restarted before picking up the charger? This was using the same sort of charger that plugged into the lighter socket, then the USB-to-MiniUSB plugged into the charger.
I started using a spare charger for a TomTom One which worked perfectly.
In fact, I have 2 car chargers to which I plug USB-mini cable, both not working. I just wonder why... Can it be hardware or software problem? I suspect you all use WM6.... OK with WM5?
I can't find the post now, but there have been a couple of discussions about the charging issues with the TyTN. My TyTN is very picky about the charging cable. It has something to do with a requirement that the data pin in the USB cable either be connected to something live(like a computer) or that the data pin be jumpered to the ground pin.
I have tried a number of charging solutions and keep going back to the AT&T store for a charger that works. I have an external battery for my laptop from Battery Geek, Inc that has both a USB port on it and a mini USB charging cable. Both don't work with my TyTN but work with my wife's Wizard. Actually they work with my TyTN about 2% of the time, just enough to make me think it is going to work.
Someplace back in the archives I've seen a description of how to modify a USB charging cable to work with the TyTN, but I can't find it right now.
Rick
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Brodit active car holder won't charge the S2

Hey guys,
I got my brodit active car holder now for a few days and it seems it doesn't supply enough juice to the S2 while in use :-(
While navigating with navigon, it even loses charge, though it's connected .... that's really disapointing, since brodit normally supplies quality products.
Anyone else got the brodit active holder with the same problems?
boba
Not got the Brodit, but I have the same problem when using CoPilot and charging via the USB cable attached to a car charger. It can keep the charge at current level with CoPilot on, but will only charge with CoPilot off.
Also noticed if SII has less than 50% charge, it won't charge at all with CoPilot on.
Taking a punt on one of these to see if it makes a difference:
http://www.buyincoins.com/details/d...-for-ipad-iphone-4g-ipod-2a-product-2748.html
Which holder do you have exactly? Can you make a photo?
Does it toggle car dock in the S2? You can see a steering wheel in notification bar.
ALexander
I was thinking exactly the same thing this lunchtime. I have the cigarete lighter active Brodit mount and - if i makes any difference - a 2004 Vauxhall Astra H. I as wondering if I would have to turn off the nice things [like satellite view, etc] on the phone for it to survive the journey. Not happy.
boba23 said:
Well I don't know the exact reason yet, but it seems the S2 doesn't accept enough juice from the charger,
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Is the S2 in USB AC Mode?
Take a look here: Einstellungen - Telefoninfo - Status
Yesterday I modified a Brodit active car holder from the good old htc HD2 to fit the S2. Now I have fast charging (AC) and Car-Mode.
I currently own some chargers. Not the original one, well the UK Version with no use in Austria.
A 1A HTC Charger with USB socket, a 450mA noname charger with USB socket and a no name car charger with micro usb.
The car charger and the HTC charger show charging(AC) whilst the noname 450mA charger shows charging(USB)...
It would be interesting to measure the exact mA taken by the phone...
ALexander
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ALexander
Hi all,
Okay, I've now tried four different chargers, and I've also had the phone replaced. Today, in a last attempt, I bought an official Samsung charger.
NONE of them work - even though the phone says "charging on AC" for all of them.
The only thing I haven't tried is a different car (which I'm going to do, once my neighbour gets home).
The one sensible suggestion I've read is that Samsung have screwed up somewhere in software and the phone can't draw enough juice.
Electronics is beyond my little brain, so I don't get why the GS2 charges from my netbook (even when it's only on battery) but won't charge in the car.
And I'm not talking when I'm using satnav. It won't charge at all. In fact (weirdly) it actually DISCHARGES much faster than it does if it's just sitting in my pocket.
I've logged this with my provider (Voda UK), because I refuse to get stuck with a useless phone for the next 18 months if this isn't sorted out. It's ludicrous. If I can't charge the phone in the car it's as good as useless to me.
UPDATE:
Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly
Do you have any chsrger with a led?
If the led stays dark the cigarette lighgter of your car might need a new fuse.
Which car?
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Ive ordered one of these mounts and will report how it behaves in my 2008 Civic
barneypooch said:
UPDATE:
Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly
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You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.
eddablin said:
You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.
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ROFL!! Genius!
Brodit mount arrived and looks great. Fit and design excellent and seems to charge as I would want.
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So what charger do you guys advice? Which charger does charge the phone, even while navigating with Navigon?
I got the Brodit active charger (BR512...), there isn't a problem with charging at all.
I think the issue you got is really car related. My guess:
a) your cigarette lighter port is poorly wired -> Measure voltage at the port with a voltmeter, it should be at least 12V DC (Edit: Even if it does there is still the possibility that your wiring is bad, showing 12V doesn't mean it can handle the current this charger needs)
b) your cigarette lighter port doesn't make a good contact to the brodit plug. Check for corrosion of the contacts, dust, dirt, etc. Some ports go bad after lots of plug in / out cycles.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about here, I'm pretty sure every car mechanic can fix your problem for a small amount of money
Edit: it's very possible this plug works with other chargers and phones and still fails with the S2 charger. The reason for this is the different ways chargers convert the car's 12V DC into 5V DC. Some might work down to 7V input, some already **** up at 11.8V
I have the same problem with my GSII trying to charge it with my 12V Ipod adapter...
I just arrive from a short travel with my Citroën Xsara and i almost got lost cose the phone discharged all the time while using IGO on the phone...
I don't think this is car related because there are so many people with different cars having this problem... so... Samsung wants me to buy a new car to be able to use their phone in travels?
Hi guys, just thought I'd try to clear up a few of things:
1. All phones can use more power than they can draw. Note that the more apps you use, the more juice you draw depending on their features.
2. Not all CLAs are the same. Most modern devices will need 2amps, but the majority of CLAs on the market are 1 - 1.2amp units.
3. Your device will stop charging if it reaches a certain temperature, without giving you any further indication that it is too hot. This is a common scenario if you've got a phone on the dash giving guidance, with the sun rays beating a back. And yes this does mean dedicated satnav devices have a greater operational temperature range than phones, usually a 15-20 degree difference (celcius).
4. If the CLA is being tripped out due to poor isolation (a lot of cars suffer from this) it will also stop charging.
5. In general terms, the lower the battery level of the device, the more juice it pulls. This is why you may find you ha email no problems getting a small charge when you start with a battery at 85%, but your phone dies if the battery is 50% or less.
Hope that helps.
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OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.
LazyPawn said:
OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Thats strange, in the first place i thought a faulty micro-usb or charger. But you got it replaced so can't be the problem.
I have a brodit with charger too, but i use it in a different way, meaning i can remove my holder and unplug it without unplugging my charger. ( near my holder i have a small connector that i can unplug).
What i did is cutting the cable from the charger and i did put a male usb port on it ( regular male usb port) and i have a Belkin charger with a usb port, this charger deliver 1A charging current and charge my phone even when i use my navigation. ( with bluetooth and gps on).
Your phones micro-usb seems to be fine too because it charge with other brands of chargers.
Your BMW delivers enough power i guess at your cigarette lighter plug, because it doesn't charge at the Toyota either and both not delivering enough power would be coincidence.
Anyway mine works perfect the way i did it and if i can remember it worked too with my original plug attached too. ( though the original one doesn't provide enough power sometimes to keep it charged while using navigation).
The only thing i can think of is that there is some stress-pressure on your connection between phone and holder connection and that one pin isn't connected properly, with the universal charger you only plug the micro-usb plug in your phone and the micro-usb plug can adjust freely to your phones micro-usb port.
Try to wiggle a bit with your phone when in the holder and see if the power comes on. Or try to connect a little device on your holders micro-usb port ( if you have something small that charge over micro-usb) and see if that works.

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