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QuickGPS data longer then max. 3 days ahead?

Hi,
I was looking for a way to extend the QuickGPS data for a longer time. Standard it can be downloaded for max. 3 days. But is there a way to extend this to a week or so? Maybe through a registry tweak?

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Doesn't make sense, data is after 3 days outdated.
Theo

Coordinates of the satellites on the sky changes every 3 days or so...

i can understand that the data has to be updated....i've got no problems to update via quickgps regularly,
but the strange thing is, on my brothers kaiser quickgps data is valid for 5 days. what's the difference ?

I also read somewhere about 10days quick QPS data..

Indeed and that's why i opened this topic

i would also like to know how the kaiser gets data that is longer valid than the data of my artemis.
what i see is that my (german) kaiser has QuickGPS v1.00 (Build 615.715) installed while my artemis (meschle's lite rom) uses v1.00 (Build 327.716). maybe the newer build asks for longer-valid data? has someone tried this build on a p3300?

My TOMTOM GO keeps data for 7 days. I guess it depends on where the data is fetched from? Just a guess.

GPS data
namco said:
My TOMTOM GO keeps data for 7 days. I guess it depends on where the data is fetched from? Just a guess.
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Hi all,
it does not matter where the data is fetched from, because it will be the same data. The GPS satellites transmit the time of their build in atomic clock, and with this data, your receiver can calculate its position. The point is that the receiver needs to know what satellites to look for. This is where quickgps comes in. Instead of having to wait for a slow download of data from all the gps satellites in sight(cold starting) which would take up to minutes, that same data is taken from the internet from some server(which has it from the same satellites of course). This saves you waiting time, and it will be more effective when the data is very fresh, and it will loose its value over time. After some days, the positions of the satellites has changes that much, that this data can not be used anymore to "know" what satellites to look for first.
So in short: the more recent the data the quicker the first fix! No use in data older than a couple of days.
And: just using your receiver often, does exactly the same: it keeps recent data due to the connection with the satellites, so when using gps often (always), you don't need quickgps at all.

this is good and all...but my kaiser does very well with the 5days-old data, so maybe my artemis could also handle that data. i just wonder how i can make QuickGPS on my artemis fetch data for the next 5 days instead of 3 days. or even better how i can configure that freely. if a chosen number makes sense have to be shown by testing.

GPS Lock, anyone with issues?

Has anyone managed to get their GPS Locking in Google Maps?
I've used QuickGPS to download the database and set Google Maps to use GPS but it never gets a fix.
When in TomTom it knows theres satalites about but doesn't connect to any.
Wondering if I have a duff.... anyone else?
How fast do you connect to satalites?

Have you been out of the house? Some houses really interferre with the connection.
Also, maybe there are some settings in the application you have to change? It should get a fix pretty quick. (first time from 10 sec tot 60, after that, below 10 sec).
So you have updated the quick GPS? Did you (after running tomtom and getting the update for the first time) do a soft reset?

quarintus said:
Have you been out of the house? Some houses really interferre with the connection.
Also, maybe there are some settings in the application you have to change? It should get a fix pretty quick. (first time from 10 sec tot 60, after that, below 10 sec).
So you have updated the quick GPS? Did you (after running tomtom and getting the update for the first time) do a soft reset?
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Yeah, did a soft reset after I turned A-GPS on in Advanced Config program. Have tried it in work which usually gets a fix, but will try outdoors, just thought I'd ask the question first

why did you do it on in advanced config? maybe that's where it went wrong. Can't remember me having to put A-GPS on in advanced Config program.

I had the issue in google maps where I could not get a lock. I had to manually configure connectivity to com port 4 in settings.
After that it has worked perfectly. I cannot say if TomTom works or not as I am waiting for my ne SD card to be delivered.
I have however noticed that everytime I sync with active sync QuickGPS always moans it is out of date even thoguh I might have updated it about 1/2 an hour ago.
Its not a major issue as its connected to my PC and just downloads the data again. i'm just ignoring it.

Do not use A-gps.
I have my TP2 fixing with no problem without it: first fix in 55", then always under 10".
Try and use for first fix Quickgps.

ninja.rogue said:
Do not use A-gps.
I have my TP2 fixing with no problem without it: first fix in 55", then always under 10".
Try and use for first fix Quickgps.
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Brilliant, turned off A-GPS and loaded TomTom 7.915/Google Maps, got a lock, even indoors.
Spot on, thanks for that!

Turn off A-GPS?
I keep seeing that to make the GPS work better, while also using QuickGPS, the A-GPS should be turned off?
How do I do this?
I have only had the Touch Pro2 for a few days, but have not been able to get a satellite lock in Google Maps even when standing outside away from many buildings.
If it would work better with A-GPS disabled, please tell me how to do this!
Thanks,
Dazzer

Dazzer said:
I keep seeing that to make the GPS work better, while also using QuickGPS, the A-GPS should be turned off?
How do I do this?
I have only had the Touch Pro2 for a few days, but have not been able to get a satellite lock in Google Maps even when standing outside away from many buildings.
If it would work better with A-GPS disabled, please tell me how to do this!
Thanks,
Dazzer
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It should be turned off by default, I turned mine on using a program called Advanced Config.

nicelad_uk said:
It should be turned off by default, I turned mine on using a program called Advanced Config.
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Ok, thanks, just going to go try Google Maps again to see if I can get a lock. Maybe I just wasn't outside long enough, or far enough away from buildings last time.
Hopefully I can make GPS work soon

Ok, I just sat outside for about 20 minutes, in the middle of a field, away from any buildings, and was unable to get any GPS lock!
What is wrong here?
I have not touched the GPS Port settings in the control panel, but Google Maps only says Seeking Satellites (0) all the time.
If I do change Google Maps to use COM 4 Baud 4800, it gets worse and says Seeking Satellites (48037656) or some other equally stupid number! At least 0 makes sense, as there are not millions of GPS satellites, only about 20!
Please help, surely there is some way to make GPS work?
Thanks,
DW

Hi all,
AGPS is not currently supported by any UK Networks, so should be turned off if in the UK.
Cheers,
Beasty

i think i ended up setting all mine to com0 but i think it wasn't working originally coz i was sitting in the car and it badly needs a wash (yes that bad). Just stuck it up by window for around 2 mins and it had 8 satellites but i've reset it so often since i last used the gps i wouldn't have been surprised with around 5 mins ... 20 on the other hand is a bit daft

Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong with settings somewhere, as in 20 minutes outside it never indicated a single satellite in Google Maps.
I have downloaded the Advanced Configuration tool, and it says that A-GPS is Disabled, which is correct for the UK, so there is nothing to change here.
I have tried changing the Port settings, but I don't know what I should change it too. The Hardware GPS port is blank!
Getting close to giving up for the day, but I really want to get GPS working soon!

Dazzer said:
Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong with settings somewhere, as in 20 minutes outside it never indicated a single satellite in Google Maps.
I have downloaded the Advanced Configuration tool, and it says that A-GPS is Disabled, which is correct for the UK, so there is nothing to change here.
I have tried changing the Port settings, but I don't know what I should change it too. The Hardware GPS port is blank!
Getting close to giving up for the day, but I really want to get GPS working soon!
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Ok, I had the same problems, have you updated Quick GPS? Are you using Google Maps?
If you go into settings and go to External GPS my GPS Program Port os COM4 next page GPS Hardware Port is none and Baud Rate is 4800.
Make sure settings are same and restart phone.
Have you installed anything since getting phone? Might be worth doing hard reset and trying is "out of the box" so to speak.

I could confirm the GPS is working and flawlessly! Much quicker than my old HTC P3600i and the locking is done in the CBD area!
I used the QuickGPS (download the latest update) and then using my GPS software called TechrificWay for Australian (it's a rebrand of NavNGo iGo MyWay 8)
Very happy ^^
(I need to set the TechrificWay application settings to find the GPS unit on COM4 though)

I actually spoke to HTC today and they think it's actually a fault with the hardware, possibly the internal antenna for the GPS is not connected properly.
Slightly annoying as I now need to send it back to get a replacement, or have it repaired, but good in that it's not a problem with me using it! There definitely is something wrong that I can't fix, I just can't wait to get one that works now!

I can get a lock, but get bad lag, and it wonders off course regularly. I wonder if it could be that the radio is not that great for GPS, as many other HTCs have suffered with GPS performance that has gotten better with certain flashed radios?
HTC gave me a generic response of "check these settings" (which were all as they should be in terms of com port and baud rate etc... So I think I'll have to call them if it keeps crapping out on me

(Fortunately) For me it turned out to be a genuine hardware fault causing the GPS to not work. I spoke to HTC and they believe I was the first in the UK to need to get a replacement due to a genuine hardware fault, which I guess is an honor (just a very annoying one!).
Even with the GPS not working for the week that I used it, I loved the handset, can't fault it, and can't wait until tomorrow when I should be receiving my brand new replacement, hopefully with working GPS and no faults!
Thanks for the suggestions here though, I needed to make sure it was a hardware fault before sending it back for a replacement.

I've tested three over 30km trips with Tom Tom 7 installed on the device.
Haven't lost a signal once. So it works fine here in Finland.
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Quick GPS not working

Hi,
I have an unbranded UK TP2, ROM 1.19.401.1, Radio 3.46.25.30 (The latest ROM and the radio with the GPS fix) however I cannot get quick GPS to work.
On the surface quick GPS seems to work correcly, it will connect and download the required data, it will then show that data is valid for seven days, however it has no effect on the time to first fix from a cold start.
I have tried the following experement, hard reset and install only HTC GPS tool, (no tweaks). Then go outside to get a clear view of the whole sky. Then use HTC GPS tool to perform a Cold start. GPS lock takes 5 mins 40 sec without QGPS, Then exit GPS tool and update QGPS and perform GPS cold start again, again GPS fix then takes 5 min 30 sec.
Hot start performance is fine, sub 10 second and warm start is also satisfactory 30 sec(ish)
Does Quick GPS make any difference to a cold start for anyone else? (after all it main purpose is to speed up cold starts.)
Cheers
Tom

When i looked at the reg settings for GPS, A-GPS is disabled by default so quickgps data isnt used - my ROM is same as yours.

ag_woodward said:
When i looked at the reg settings for GPS, A-GPS is disabled by default so quickgps data isnt used - my ROM is same as yours.
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Quick GPS is different to A-GPS, I agree A-GPS is disabled by default in the ROM (it also has a dummy ip address in the settings so would never work if enabled). However Quick GPS is a separate entity, it seems like the GPS driver is not utilising the ephemeris data from the xtra.bin file downloaded by the QuickGPS app.
Can anyone confirm that Quick GPS is working on their TP2 (Cold start only)
Cheers
Tom

ag_woodward said:
When i looked at the reg settings for GPS, A-GPS is disabled by default so quickgps data isnt used - my ROM is same as yours.
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That's rather scary. Is there any way to get A-GPS to actually work?

Although I see what you mean about it's scary, I really dont experience any lengthy delays in getting a fix, even on a poor weather day I get a fix in around 1 min (never timed it but I am impatient so it would be obvious )
I use Copilot - which I must say v8 is a bargain compared with other offerings.
The only irritation I do have with HTC is their inability to get rid of the GPS lag....so sick of trying things but you learn to live with it - specially as the new BT stack prevents connection to external GPS receivers (they can be paired but CP7 and TOMTOM7 wouldn't communicate with them). 1 step forward, 2 back!

No GPS Lock on Tilt 2 (Any ROMs)

Hey guys, is there any particular reason why I wouldn't be getting a GPS Lock on any ROMs when using things such as Google Maps or GPS Photo in the Camera.
I've tried all sorts of ROMs and they are all the same. Google Maps keeps doing the Searching for Setellite thing with 0 results.
I've tried various Radios too but still no go. I wonder if it has anything to do with SIM Unlock I did with Olipro's utility.
Any help is appreciated, otherwise I may have to return the device.

+1
I flashed NRG's Leo Manila 2.5 ROM that has footprints, and I can't get a fix. I've tried googlemaps, gps photo, trapster, and footprints. I left my phone for almost 20 minutes and still no fix.
I'm gonna try the fix I found in one of the threads in the Rhodium general thread. we'll see what happens.

Did you have any luck with the fix?
I have tried the T-Back ATT aGPS Fix but still no go!
Anybody have any ideas?

Have you tried turning on aGPS in the settings/system? also can try updating to the latest radio which worked wonders for me to get My location working.
Make sure you use quick GPS also which helps lock faster.
Remember sometimes it can take awhile to get your first lock.

Well, so far, I've tried turning on aGPS in Settings/System. I've also tried downloading the latest info with QuickGPS and trying it that way. Still no luck!
I got an email from Olipro saying that it could take up to 40 mins to get a lock. How in the world is this at all acceptable???? 40 mins is toooooooooo long.
But I will let it sit there for a while today and see what happens.

are you trying it out in the open? testing gps indoors is a no-no.

Mesquire said:
are you trying it out in the open? testing gps indoors is a no-no.
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Well that's about the only thing thats left to try. So I'll give that a shot and see what happens.

What?! Don't tell me you have been trying it inside a building! That's worse than trying to catch a tan through a window
Also, if you live in the city, buildings will also block the line-of-sight to satellites so it will take longer to synchronize.

On my phone, the GPS is much, much improved over the Fuze, using stock AT&T ROM. It takes about 12 seconds to get a lock with Garmin Mobile XT--and that's indoors.

Mesquire said:
What?! Don't tell me you have been trying it inside a building! That's worse than trying to catch a tan through a window
Also, if you live in the city, buildings will also block the line-of-sight to satellites so it will take longer to synchronize.
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haha Well I thought it'd take a little longer than if I was outside but...not 20-40 mins longer!! Hopefully that'll be the issue is not being outside....and not that the device is defective.

Since GPS requires line-of-sight to multiple statellites, it depends on the building you are in. I get no signal at all when I'm in my house or travelling through tunnels.
Then there is a difference between cold and warm start. Cold start is when you first load the GPS app and sync to satellites, warm start is a reconnect after you lose your signals for short periods (say through tunnels). My fastest cold start sync was less than 30 seconds on a program called MapKing, all out in the open of course.

GPS don't find sinal

Hi, i'm trying to use my gps, but i cannot find any satellite, i've already tried iGO and iGO Primo, Google Maps, i had tested with HTC GPS TOOLS and no sattelite was fixed, what I have to do?
Thanks

even i use igo(NDRIVE) it does but it take time to connect, go in an open space..

Have you updated the GPS data with QuickGPS on the phone?

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Have you updated the GPS data with QuickGPS on the phone?
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Just wanted to ask that

Are you outdoors, with a clear view of most of the sky? Is this a new phone? If brand new, it might take several minutes for initial lock, but then will find satellites much faster after that.
Have you messed with the settings at all? Or fresh out of the box?
Make sure your HTC GPS tool is set to port COM4.

Hi there,
I use this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571266
With this "GPS mod" my device will find satellites even when i'm indoors and reletively close to a window. The fix will usually happen within 10 seconds and it will fix on 6-12 sats (even when it's extremely cloudy/rainy).
I useTomTom 7 and it works extremely fast with almost no lag at all.
Read the instructions in the first post, they are easy and well documented.
Good luck!