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What are the SDMicro size limitatations on cooked WM6 Roms

Looking to go big on my next SD Micro purchase. What are the limitations with the various cooked Hermes Roms on this forum? For example will a 8Gb work ok with my Schaps 4.01 Rom?

No limit as of yet. 8GB MicroSD cards work fine

32GB is the SDHC limit.

se1095 said:
32GB is the SDHC limit.
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No offense, but how do u know??
can u give me some explanation?
some facts or any details?

http://www.steves-digicams.com/pdf/sdhc.pdf

32 GB indeed Check this out:
http://www.sandisk.com/sdhc/SDHC.pdf

bchau said:
32 GB indeed Check this out:
http://www.sandisk.com/sdhc/SDHC.pdf
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should have gone to specsavers

Would love to buy, if only...

I used to have an I-mate JasJar and I loved it!
The reason I sold the device is becouse it had only 64 MB of ram and that was not quiet enough for me!
However, if it is at all possible to uppgrade to 128 MB or even to 256 MB, I would buy a new one in an instant!
So please tell me, is it possible?
Also I would like to know if I can use a sdhc memory card so I can have at least 8 GB of memory, would be cool!
The reason I am asking for this is becouse I love the device and I especially LOVE the keybord!
I bought an HTC Advantage, and I think that the keybord sucks on that device!

I'm going to update my qtek9000 to 128M soon I hope it will work well, I will update you after I will do it.
Regards the SDHC, I'm using 16G SDHC and its working just great.

128Mb
Hello,
I have a 128 Mb Uni and it's wonderfull for me, a new Universal, more stability, quick response, no more soft reset, big games launch ...I also use 8 Gb SDHC without problems.

Thats great guys!
Then I will watch out for a new device to buy!
Oh, buy the way, how is watching videos on the device?
Is it lagging (skipping frames) or is it working ok?
I live in Sweden, do you think if I buy that someone else can do the uppgrade for me? I am not good at this!
Also would like to know if it would be possible to uppgrade to 256MB of ram instead of 128MB? (That would really be GREAT!
Thanks in advance!

Read this post
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382177"

Is it really worth the upgrade?

Hello everyone!
I now have a I-Mate JasJar and I love it!
However, it is a 64 mb unit and I am considering the upgrade!
So I wanted to ask everyone that has already done the upgrade if they think it was worth it?
Also I would like to know where you can see the improvment the most?
I like Nav n go Igo 8 navi program and my device clearly
does not have enough memory to run it properly, will it help to do the upgrade or is it so that the graphic card is not quiet up for the challenge to be able to show 3d terrain and everything else in Igo8?
So basicly I want some coments from you guys, what works after the upgrade and what does not work?
For me I am considering either to do the upgrade or to buy the Touch pro when it cames out, but the thing is that I like this device to much to sell it!
So is there any hope for it? Is it going to be as good as the rest of the devices that has more memory (like tytn II), or is it just not worth it?
Oh and buy the way, I do own a tytn II so I know all about the missing drivers and stuff, the fact that it has a gps is great but somehow I dont mind that my universal does not have gps becouse I have an external gps anyway and it is much better then the built in gps in tytn II!

not get mine upgraded yet but I won't even though the xda exec might be stronger and faster / more stable? I have no idea but I never want mine to be disassembled or replaced sth. I want it to be still original and untouched inside, I love software and OS modding but no hardware modding seem to be interesting to me.

Well, I have send my Qtek9000 yesterday to the shop in Germany to get it upgraded...
Why, becose I am running IGO8 and have not enough Ram to run it properly.
I hope it solves the problems I have running IGO8 like the 3D map wich somethimes dissapears after a while...
I let you know my experience after the upgrade...!

Actually, if you install many softwares then ROM is more important because even though you can install the softwares to the memory card but many programs would install either in part on in full to the ROM
You'll reach a stage whereby you cannot install programs even to the memory card because you'll face 'Storage Memory Low' error
I wonder whether it's possible to upgrade the ROM too say to 512MB?

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Actually, if you install many softwares then ROM is more important because even though you can install the softwares to the memory card but many programs would install either in part on in full to the ROM
You'll reach a stage whereby you cannot install programs even to the memory card because you'll face 'Storage Memory Low' error
I wonder whether it's possible to upgrade the ROM too say to 512MB?
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Don't know if you are familiair with the memory of computers, but...
See the SD-card as the harddisk. That's clear.
See the ROM as memory that you cannot use for your own (exceptions are Flash and extended memory, but those are 'hard disks' too)
So, all 'hard disks' are used to store stuff onto. This can be programs, images, databases, whatever.
See the RAM as usable program memory (the RAM of your computer - might be 1Gb or 2Gb or 4Gb)
The 128MB is RAM, so only to be used as program memory, memory used while running programs.
Each program that is installed costs NO RAM, except when you (or the OS) run it. Drivers only consume program memory when they are loaded.
So, installing eg. a large game won't change anything to your RAM.
Most programs can be installed to SD. Only a few cannot. However, often can be tweaked (eg. Opera, Wisbar) to run from SD without any problem.
I would very much like to have 128MB too... I was under the impression that the store in Germany would not do this anymore (it is not on their web site)
So, CFDS, when you get the Universal back, please inform us of its state!

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I think you're mistaken
I'm referring to the storage memory vs the program memory.
The Uni has 128 MB Flash ROM and 64 MB SDRAM. Similarly, the SAMSUNG SGH i900 has 256 MB Flash ROM and 128 MB SDRAM
Here's the spec for the Uni (QTEK 9000)
http://www.qtek.nu/europe/products/9000/specifications.aspx

Are they really doing the upgrade?
cfds said:
Well, I have send my Qtek9000 yesterday to the shop in Germany to get it upgraded...
Why, becose I am running IGO8 and have not enough Ram to run it properly.
I hope it solves the problems I have running IGO8 like the 3D map wich somethimes dissapears after a while...
I let you know my experience after the upgrade...!
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Thanks for your reply, yes Igo8 is why I am considering the upgrade myself!
Please let me know when you get your device back, I would really like to know how it works with Igo8!
Also I would like to know to what shop in Germany you sent your device?
The only shop I know of is this: http://www.srsgmbh.de/en/index1.html and I dont see that they can do the upgrade anywhere on their site!
I wrote them an email asking them if they can do it and what the cost will be, but so far I have not recieved any answer!
Is this the shop you are reffering to or do you know of any other in Germany that will do the upgrade?
Also do you know what the price should be and how long it should take?
Thanks in advance!

Please confirm this?
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I think you're mistaken
I'm referring to the storage memory vs the program memory.
The Uni has 128 MB Flash ROM and 64 MB SDRAM. Similarly, the SAMSUNG SGH i900 has 256 MB Flash ROM and 128 MB SDRAM
Here's the spec for the Uni (QTEK 9000)
http://www.qtek.nu/europe/products/9000/specifications.aspx
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Ok, so you mean that if one does the RAM upgrade one will not get more PROGRAM MEMORY?
Please confirm this, it would really be shame to spend money on the upgrade only to not recieve any additional "program memory" which I think is equaly important!
I tought that by doing the upgrade it will be equalent to a Tytn II device both in "RAM" and in "program memory"! So please confirm this!
Thanks in advance!

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"Ok, so you mean that if one does the RAM upgrade one will not get more PROGRAM MEMORY?"
As I mentioned the Uni has 128 MB Flash ROM and 64 MB SDRAM. If you do a RAM upgrade you'll get 128MB SDRAM and that means you'll have MORE program memory but your storage memory remains the same at 128 MB Flash ROM
For comparison, I've taken a look at the SAMSUNG SGH i900 running WM 6.1 at its default installation and found that the FREE storage memory is about 30+ to 50+ MB. If you're the type who wants to install many programs then I think this amount is inadequate. The SONY EXPERIA X1 might be a good alternative giving 512 MB ROM and 256 MB RAM.
FI, my QTEK 9000's FREE storage memory is about 3 MB so can't do software installation even to the SD card because I'm facing the 'Storage Memory Low' error during installation of programs
Program memory is important for program running. Generally, if you do have 20 -30 MB of FREE program memory it's adequate to run most programs smoothly. However, certain programs may require more to ensure stability and smooth running.

Yes, this is the shop I send my Qtek to in Germany: http://www.srsgmbh.de/en/index1.html
He confirmed a couple of weeks ago that he's able to do the Ram upgrade on the Qtek9000. He charges 119€ for the upgrade and it would take a week excluding shipping...
Can hardly wait to get it back...!

How did you send it?
cfds said:
Yes, this is the shop I send my Qtek to in Germany: http://www.srsgmbh.de/en/index1.html
He confirmed a couple of weeks ago that he's able to do the Ram upgrade on the Qtek9000. He charges 119€ for the upgrade and it would take a week excluding shipping...
Can hardly wait to get it back...!
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Did you just fill in the form and sent it? I dont see anywhere to fill in country!
Is this how you sent it or did you do any other way?
Thanks

FOSA said:
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"Ok, so you mean that if one does the RAM upgrade one will not get more PROGRAM MEMORY?"
As I mentioned the Uni has 128 MB Flash ROM and 64 MB SDRAM. If you do a RAM upgrade you'll get 128MB SDRAM and that means you'll have MORE program memory but your storage memory remains the same at 128 MB Flash ROM
For comparison, I've taken a look at the SAMSUNG SGH i900 running WM 6.1 at its default installation and found that the FREE storage memory is about 30+ to 50+ MB. If you're the type who wants to install many programs then I think this amount is inadequate. The SONY EXPERIA X1 might be a good alternative giving 512 MB ROM and 256 MB RAM.
FI, my QTEK 9000's FREE storage memory is about 3 MB so can't do software installation even to the SD card because I'm facing the 'Storage Memory Low' error during installation of programs
Program memory is important for program running. Generally, if you do have 20 -30 MB of FREE program memory it's adequate to run most programs smoothly. However, certain programs may require more to ensure stability and smooth running.
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Ok I understand now, but is there a way of upgrading the storage memory as well or is it just possible to upgrade RAM?
Also does anyone know if 128 MB Ram is the limit or is it possible to upgrade even more, perhaps 256 MB?
Thanks

Info on the 128Mb Upgrade
I have do the 128Mb upgrade to my Uni. Was it worth it, well that depends, I think it was for me. You will not notice any big change in app loading speeds, but if you are running heavy weight app's like sat nav were you see lock ups or 'low resource' warnings them yes it is wroth it. It wont get you any more stroage space but it does give you more program running space.
Currently 128Mb is the max M-RAM that can be fitted to the Uni, I beleive due to ROM image limitations. The chips are also obsolite and can be hard to get hold of have a look at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128_Shop for places that sell and upgrade. To do it yourself will require specialist equipment, so unless you know what is involved get it done for you.
Dave

D.Apsley said:
I have do the 128Mb upgrade to my Uni. Was it worth it, well that depends, I think it was for me. You will not notice any big change in app loading speeds, but if you are running heavy weight app's like sat nav were you see lock ups or 'low resource' warnings them yes it is wroth it. It wont get you any more stroage space but it does give you more program running space.
Currently 128Mb is the max M-RAM that can be fitted to the Uni, I beleive due to ROM image limitations. The chips are also obsolite and can be hard to get hold of have a look at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128_Shop for places that sell and upgrade. To do it yourself will require specialist equipment, so unless you know what is involved get it done for you.
Dave
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Ok thanks for then info!
Have you or do you plan on testing your upgraded uni with Igo8 to see if it works properly? That is why I am considering the upgrade in the first place so it is very important for me to know if it works or not!
Thanks in advance!

I enclosed a letter in the shipment(registered mail) which explained my request, contained all details from my PDA and personal details. I also send him an e-mail with the same request...
Lets hope that all goes well!!!
Ciao!

D.Apsley said:
Currently 128Mb is the max M-RAM that can be fitted to the Uni, I beleive due to ROM image limitations. The chips are also obsolite and can be hard to get hold of have a look at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128_Shop for places that sell and upgrade. To do it yourself will require specialist equipment, so unless you know what is involved get it done for you.
Dave
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Not so sure, Universal also works with 256 mb BGA RAM chips from Notebook memory

Win_XP said:
Not so sure, Universal also works with 256 mb BGA RAM chips from Notebook memory
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Really? How can I get it upgraded to 256 mb?
Just think about it, 256 mb on universal, how cool is that?

If you are going to run Igo8 on your Uni then the answer to the question is YES, get the upgrade done.

Received my Qtek back today from its Ram upgrade...
86,5mb free of prog mem after reset...
Tried iGO8 on it...it used up to 65mb of prog memory but it ran very smooth...had all selected-3D building/terrain etc...
So far after 2X 30 min of usage/navigating I did not lost my 3D map...will see how it behaves when I use it for an 2.5hrs/250km trip...

That is GREAT news!
cfds said:
Received my Qtek back today from its Ram upgrade...
86,5mb free of prog mem after reset...
Tried iGO8 on it...it used up to 65mb of prog memory but it ran very smooth...had all selected-3D building/terrain etc...
So far after 2X 30 min of usage/navigating I did not lost my 3D map...will see how it behaves when I use it for an 2.5hrs/250km trip...
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This is great news, please tell me how much did the upgrade cost you?
Oh and I would also like to know exactly how you sent it for the upgrade, becouse I have so far not recieved any answer from them!
Thanks in advance!

help!!memory card question

i have xda neo...mysterious 1.0.....what is the highest capacity of card i can use in it....32gb might be out of question(or is it), what about 8gb....or at last 4gb...i dont know much of these so could u help me...

Prakrista said:
i have xda neo...mysterious 1.0.....what is the highest capacity of card i can use in it....32gb might be out of question(or is it), what about 8gb....or at last 4gb...i dont know much of these so could u help me...
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4GB SD card ONLY
NOT SDHC ~~~~

thats it?
4 gb @ most?? cant any driver upgrade or anything can help??

Prakrista said:
4 gb @ most?? cant any driver upgrade or anything can help??
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The hardware does not support this.

ok
then i have 2 buy a 4gb card... any suggestion on brand Ridata,transcend,kingston....i thought all brand were alike until i went 2 shop... which one to buy??whats the difference...coz theres 2 to 4 $ difference

Prakrista said:
then i have 2 buy a 4gb card... any suggestion on brand Ridata,transcend,kingston....i thought all brand were alike until i went 2 shop... which one to buy??whats the difference...coz theres 2 to 4 $ difference
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This is about accessories rather than "Prophet".

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l3v5y said:
This is about accessories rather than "Prophet".
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ok then which brand is most suitable for prophet.....
(now its part of prophet right!!!)

Prakrista said:
ok then which brand is most suitable for prophet.....
(now its part of prophet right!!!)
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So long as it's not SDHC, there should be no differences between brands. (also, since it's an extra for the Prophet, and not integral to the Prophet, it is an accessory )

ok thank u

i using Transcend 4GB 133x for my Prophet no problem running smooth n fast

cuoreboy said:
i using Transcend 4GB 133x for my Prophet no problem running smooth n fast
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Must be of the non-SDHC variety.

What if we use super glue to fix the card in the slot? Would it be an accessory, a Prophet component, or simply, really, awsomely, unthinkablely sTuPiD?!?!
Now for the serious part:
Anyone knows if there is any problem with the 4GB 150x or 200x SD cards?
Oh, Kingston has livetime warranty on some cards...
But Toshiba are sometimes faster...

Note 7 promotion - fast ass micro sd card

I just received mine. Holy ****, it's pretty fast.
It's this one:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computing...vo-256gb-memory-card-w-adapter-mb-mc256da-am/
95/90 MBps read/write speed.
Is that what you guys got?

Did you benchmark it? I have a Lexar Class 10 128GB card I paid $39 for. It's listed for 95mbps when I benchmarked it I got 56 read & 18 write.
For the cost compared to what Samsung says the 256gb card is work, the $39 card any my Fit Gear 2 work fine.

ryant35 said:
Did you benchmark it? I have a Lexar Class 10 128GB card I paid $39 for. It's listed for 95mbps when I benchmarked it I got 56 read & 18 write.
For the cost compared to what Samsung says the 256gb card is work, the $39 card any my Fit Gear 2 work fine.
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Here are the benchmarks:
http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_evo_plus_256gb_microsd_memory_card_review
How do they compare to your Lexar?
P.S. I haven't opened the packaging yet. It looks so pretty inside the pretty packaging. And I'm still thinking about what I'm gonna fill it with. I only have 112GB of favorite movie collection and a few gigs of music - don't know what to put on it.

I bet the benchmark varies by phone. Open it and check it out. I used A1 SD Bench to check it.

ryant35 said:
I bet the benchmark varies by phone. Open it and check it out. I used A1 SD Bench to check it.
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Stop shifting the blame here!

nabbed said:
I just received mine. Holy ****, it's pretty fast.
It's this one:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computing...vo-256gb-memory-card-w-adapter-mb-mc256da-am/
95/90 MBps read/write speed.
Is that what you guys got?
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Oh god those cards are slow as hell...i love the storage capacity but awful speeds...write in particular.
I use this one, WAY faster.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...800r_128gb_professional_uhs_ii_microsdxc.html
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force70 said:
Oh god those cards are slow as hell...i love the storage capacity but awful speeds...write in particular.
I use this one, WAY faster.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...800r_128gb_professional_uhs_ii_microsdxc.html
Sent from my SM-N930FD
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I just put 120GB on mine over usb 2.0 - 1 hour or so. Write speed was 30MBps. How fast is yours?

force70 said:
Oh god those cards are slow as hell...i love the storage capacity but awful speeds...write in particular.
I use this one, WAY faster.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...800r_128gb_professional_uhs_ii_microsdxc.html
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Wicked! That's kills my slow ass Sandisk. Just ordered one off Amazon. Thanks for the heads up!

nabbed said:
I just put 120GB on mine over usb 2.0 - 1 hour or so. Write speed was 30MBps. How fast is yours?
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In my laptop 100, in my note 7 around 80
30 is terrible.
Your read speeds probably wouldn't even match my write speeds with this lexar card.
As i said love the storage capacity hate the slow speeds.
Cant wait until we can get a 256gb version with better write speeds
Sent from my SM-N930FD

nabbed said:
I just put 120GB on mine over usb 2.0 - 1 hour or so. Write speed was 30MBps. How fast is yours?
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I read somewhere its the fastest microsd for its size in the world and supposedly its the little brother to the new micro cards being made by samsung
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3092...orage-cards-could-replace-micro-sd-media.html
There was a rumor that the sd card readers in the note 7 were supposed to be compatible with these but that it didnt make the final schematics.
BTW I love your dont tread on me pic, its hillarious and awesome.

force70 said:
In my laptop 100, in my note 7 around 80
30 is terrible.
Your read speeds probably wouldn't even match my write speeds with this lexar card.
As i said love the storage capacity hate the slow speeds.
Cant wait until we can get a 256gb version with better write speeds
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Just benched it in my Note7. 73 read, 63 write. That's with the same Lexar you have.

Didn't think it would work Because it was for a s7 promotion on the link ; but i input all my info and everything checked out with my note 7 purchase
It asked if i wanted a 256 micro sd card or a gear VR..
I opted for the gear vr of course (yes , i know the micro sd cost more) I asked my self do i really need over 300 GB of space ? I said na , Il opt for a gear VR .. i have the first model for my s6 and it was amazing minus the pix quality but the whole 360 vr experience is something to experience..

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Didn't think it would work Because it was for a s7 promotion on the link ; but i input all my info and everything checked out with my note 7 purchase
It asked if i wanted a 256 micro sd card or a gear VR..
I opted for the gear vr of course (yes , i know the micro sd cost more) I asked my self do i really need over 300 GB of space ? I said na , Il opt for a gear VR .. i have the first model for my s6 and it was amazing minus the pix quality but the whole 360 vr experience is something to experience..
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With the Gear VR, i realized I do need 300gb of space on my phone

GibMcFragger said:
Just benched it in my Note7. 73 read, 63 write. That's with the same Lexar you have.
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It will vary a bit from test to test but thats not too far off what i see though.
Thats more than double the write speed of 99% of the cards out there though.
Too bad the note couldnt match the speeds in my laptop lol...read mid 200's, write at 100 or so lol
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force70 said:
It will vary a bit from test to test but thats not too far off what i see though.
Thats more than double the write speed of 99% of the cards out there though.
Too bad the note couldnt match the speeds in my laptop lol...read mid 200's, write at 100 or so lol
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It's better than the 15 write I had with my previous Sandisk. I'll take it, lol.

balistaman said:
With the Gear VR, i realized I do need 300gb of space on my phone
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Good point.. that's why i opted for a 64gb samsung evo plus for $20 via Amazon which boosted my space from 64-128 GB
Can i ask you put on your gear vr storage ?

Vic35 said:
Good point.. that's why i opted for a 64gb samsung evo plus for $20 via Amazon which boosted my space from 64-128 GB
Can i ask you put on your gear vr storage ?
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I made a folder in sd named Milkvr folder and i have all my videos there

balistaman said:
I made a folder in sd named Milkvr folder and i have all my videos there
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What type of vr videos do you save

Vic35 said:
What type of vr videos do you save
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from the oculus home, or you can find some from oculus rift videos online thats compatible. I download everything because streaming sucks

For my recalled Note 7 purchased August 19, I opted for the 256 Micro SD card. Then when I returned My Note7 and purchased the "New Note 7 with out the battery issues I opted for the Gear VR. So Now will have the Gear VR with the Storage space to save Games and Video. I also have 2 of every accessories that the phone came with becase all they wanted was the phone, so I was able to keep the original accesories and the new accessories that came with the new phone. I also kept the s-Pen so I have a back for that! All in all, for all the headaches with the recall, I think I came out O'tay!
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