active connection over 3G and make/receive phonecalls - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I'm sorry to put this question here, but I searched the forum, found nothing, placed my question over at the network/connectivity forum and got just one (not realy satisfying) reply...
I think this is the most active forum on xda-developers, so at least someone should have an answer to my question:
is it possible to have an active network connection (with WM6 on the Hermes, or using the hermes as a modem) and place/receive phonecalls at the same time?
I don't use 3G at this moment, but am planning on using it.
But I need my phone to be able to place/receive calls while having an active internet connection.
has anyone any info for me about this?
thanks

If you have 3G yes you can. I often use my laptop with my 8525 as it's modem to Remote Desktop into a file server while talking to the client with my BT Jawbone.
But... if you don't have 3G in your area you're limited to a single channel for voice and data.

Internet Connection and voice calls
I have tested and only is possible if you use a simple 3G connection, if you use a HSPDA connection (internet at 1,8MB if avaliable by your provider) you don't recibe or make any call, all the calls that you recive go automatically to your voicemail. I don't know if is a problem with my provider or if is a any limitation of the software/hardware.
I have a SPV M3100 with Schap's 3.54b PTG ROM, 1.50.00.00 radio and 32.83.7020.20w protocol

in my case is strictly a case of what radio version I use.
on radio 1.50 I could not receive calls both while GSM or HSPA data connection was active.
on radio 1.40.30 i can do that and on the newest 1.51 I am still testing...
my network vodafone RO.

Hello again a have flash the new radio version 1.51.00.10 and have activate the HSPDA on my Herms (by default I have the HSPDA deactivated because I have a Direct Push Mail activated and if a have the HSPDA ativated I never recive a call) and I try to make a call and recive but nothing, I don't revice and I can't make any call

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Problem with WM6 (Official) and radio 1.43

Hi,
I am using a T-mobile vario 2 in the UK. I recently flashed the radio rom to version 1.43 and replaced the operator rom with the official dopod wm6 rom. Most things are working ok but I have run into a few problems; hopefully someone here can help me.
First (minor) problem when the phone is first turned on it asks you to select a country. UK is not on the list, only countries in south pacific area. Does this prevent me from connecting properly to my local provider? ie do I show up as roaming?
Next problem is that I can't receive my voicemail. I phoned T-Mobile to check the number and setup etc but everything is correct. The phone just tells me "The number you have dialed is not recognised" or something to that effect.
Finally my phone frequently looses its data connection. When you open internet explorer a popup message shows saying: "Unable to connect to network for an unknown reason..." I checked all of the settings and they are ok. The only thing that fixes the data connection is to reset the phone. Probably I am also dropping calls whilst the phone is in this state.
So can anyone help? I think it is most likely the radio rom at fault but it could be related to not being able to select the correct county.
Thanks for your help
Matt
-Matt- said:
Hi,
I am using a T-mobile vario 2 in the UK. I recently flashed the radio rom to version 1.43 and replaced the operator rom with the official dopod wm6 rom. Most things are working ok but I have run into a few problems; hopefully someone here can help me.
First (minor) problem when the phone is first turned on it asks you to select a country. UK is not on the list, only countries in south pacific area. Does this prevent me from connecting properly to my local provider? ie do I show up as roaming?
Next problem is that I can't receive my voicemail. I phoned T-Mobile to check the number and setup etc but everything is correct. The phone just tells me "The number you have dialed is not recognised" or something to that effect.
Finally my phone frequently looses its data connection. When you open internet explorer a popup message shows saying: "Unable to connect to network for an unknown reason..." I checked all of the settings and they are ok. The only thing that fixes the data connection is to reset the phone. Probably I am also dropping calls whilst the phone is in this state.
So can anyone help? I think it is most likely the radio rom at fault but it could be related to not being able to select the correct county.
Thanks for your help
Matt
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try radio 1.47 which comes with the dopod wm6
Ok I followed the suggestion and have upgraded to radio 1.47 but I still get the same problems. At least I have only checked the voicemail so far but get the same message. It actually says "You have dialed an incorrect number..."
Any other suggestions?
Download and install the provider Cab settings for your provider.
Search the wiki for more information
I have already done this. The settings are correct.
Hmm, thanks for the advice... now sms doesn't work either. PS. whilst flashing radio rom I also changed to JJ's black satin.
Please can somebody suggest a radio rom that is known to work well on T-Mobile in the UK. ie. no dropped calls, GPRS, 3G and HSDPA all working, voicmail and sms working, I don't care about video calling.
Thanks
Matt
Mat,
I am on TyTn and I had the same problem after installing Dopod WM6 version + 1.47 radio - on the second day majority of programs requiring internet connection were returning in message 'Unable to connect due to unknown reason...'. Even Wi-Fi was not responding. Only Resco Radio was working ?!?!
Solved this by removing the GRPS Internet settings and updating them manually.
As to the dropping calls, did you try to switch to GSM (instead of 3G). This is a common problem if your 3G covergae is bad?
Since upgrading the radio rom from 1.43 to 1.47 I have not had the "Unable to connect.. for an unknown reason" message. So I guess this was either due to some screwed up settings before, or some bug that has been fixed between releases.
I don't know how to switch from 3G to GSM but I am not convinced that this is the problem since my push email works just fine.
Incidentally I have noticed that my phone seems to default to 3G but as soon as I open a page in explorer it jumps into HSDPA, once it finishes it goes back to 3G. Is there a way to make it stay in HSDPA or is this a bad idea for some reason?
With the above observation in mind I could be wrong in thinking 3G was not my problem. Perhaps my phone jumps into HSDPA to receive push email.
So how do you force GSM or even GPRS over 3G?
Please forgive my ignorance.
Matt
Ok found a setting in com manager/phone/bands/ changed from auto which was putting me on umts to gsm. Was this what you meant? I have gone from 2 bars of 3G and 2 bars of HSDPA when in use to full bars of GPRS. Internet browsing was definitely faster with HSDPA but do you think I should be able to receive texts now? I know I have missed some and they still have not come through.
This is weird, after changing to GSM my htc home plugin reports 2 unread text messages but when I open up the SMS/MMS folder ther are no messages at all.
???
I find the best radio rom for Tmobile UK is 1.27 - see the wiki.
For your voicemail, set the phone to dial your own number, it works.
Ive tried all the new radios and always go back to 1.27. I am currently running Schaps lates WM6 rom (3.57a I think)
Rob
robt2379 said:
I find the best radio rom for Tmobile UK is 1.27 - see the wiki.
For your voicemail, set the phone to dial your own number, it works.
Ive tried all the new radios and always go back to 1.27. I am currently running Schaps lates WM6 rom (3.57a I think)
Rob
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I must admitt Ive always end up going back to 1.27 too
Hi i'm on T-Mobile Uk Vario II currently using Black Satin & Radio 1.43 3g, hsdpa, sms, mms, voicemail all working.
Can only suggest reflash rom with somthing like Schaps 3.57a use his operator setting tool to set T-Mobile settings and use radio 1.43 and see what happens.
Cheers
It would appear that WM6 dialer strips the leading zero from the T-Mobile voicemail number +440507... giving +44507...
I have not figured out how to fix it yet.
For the voicemail thing, the dialer does indeed strip out the leading zero on the voicemail number - I spent hours trying to fix this and in the end, it was easy - just put an extra zero in the number (in network services) ;-)
I use Black Satin with Radio 1.47.00.10 and have no problems whatsoever but I'm still evaluating - I don't know if I've tried 1.27 yet so I think I'll look into that and report back the comparison.
You say you were having problems with data "unable to connect..." - I used to have this a lot and invariably, it was because my conection had somehow developed a proxy server - turned this off and it work after that (it usually happened after I synced it with my work computer)
Could the SMS messages be on your SIM or something? Not had this problem but have a look in SIM manager see if that can find anything.
The thing about HSDPA is that it isn't on all the time - the phone will stay in 3G until you or your phone initiates a data connection, then HSDPA will kick in for the duration of the connection then fall back to 3G - this is normal as your phone cannot receive calls and stuff while HSDPA is connected (I think - i'll look for clarification on this point - the phone will should drop the HSDPA when a call comes in).
Some people do report that data speeds etc seem faster when they mess with the band settings but I've not been able to confirm this and just leave it as it is.
If you don't get anywhere with your SMS problem, you could try the threaded apps that I've customised for t-mobile (links in my SIG) but be warned - any texts you have in your current SMS inbox will be inaccessible until you uninstall the threaded app. I'm using the WM6 one on mine at the moment and it works just fine for SMS and MMS.
Smiffy
Thanks for the replies guys!
I am now very happily running the 'normal' version of JJ's Black Satin rom and radio rom 1.48.
Everything seems to be working fine now. Adding the extra 0 into my voicemail number did the trick; so easy once you know how!
The data connection can still be slow occasionally. I think this is because if you have a weak 3G signal this overrides a stronger GPRS one. Sometimes the 3G signal is so weak it can't transfer any data and the phone just keeps trying in 3G rather than switching to the stronger GPRS signal which would work. This is easy the fix, just go into com manager and disable 3G (on the black satin rom at least).
Generally I am very happy and my device is finally working the way I wanted it to.
Once again, thanks for your help
Cheers
Matt
I use whats in my sig and it works well. I get the 3g/gprs battle at my house alot. Complain to tmobile regularly and they'll sort it out eventually.

WM6 related internet problems with T-Mobile

After upgrading from my XDA IIs to my new 8525 I immediately flashed the Schaps 3.54b WM6 ROM. After setting up the connection settings just as I had had them on my BA I noticed the internet didn't work. I thought it might be a T-Mobile issue since with the T-MobileWeb service you must use the proxy server to route HTTP traffic. I put my SIM back into my BA and the internet works! Next my thoughts are that this being a new Edge capable device that they could detect this and block service. Well just today I flashed the Dopod Lite rom, internet still broke. But then I flashed Black X b2 and low and behold its working! I did think that the Dopod Lite "6mb PP" was a bit faster than black so I'd like to use it but why won't the net work on those two roms? Any ideas?
I Got near same Problem,
I was a Happy user with an old WM5 Black Rom. I checked the forums and found a discussion About a WM6 Black od Schnap's Rom. Schnap's in is favour. I tried the 3.54b Full Rom and wasn;t able to connect to the T-Mobile atenna. I kept on searching, when i changed to Manual Network selection I was able to connect.
When I tried GPRS it worked, when i went outside to get 3G you see the switch of reception from G to 3G in the Topbar, butt when trying to surf it doesn't work. Looks like some kind of block or setting.
I also tried 3.57a Full Rom it will connect butt then again no Data is comming in the Browser Windows. When i Switch to GPRS only it works.. I was ble to use the automatec network selection.
Very Strange and annoying...
Regards Tom
fyi...T-Mobile USA has no 3G; only EDGE access. They told me they plan on having 3G later this year and they are testing it. My EDGE gprs internet access works great with schaps 3.54c.
When trying another SIM from KPN I have no problems.
It's strange, i flashed to another ROM 3.54c from Schap's again I ran into trouble. When i poppe in a SIM from another provider KPN, it worked inmediately. This KPN provider has gprs / umts and hsdpa.. You see the icon performing seamless handover for the data connection. When creating traffic if switches to hsdpa and when there is no or less traffic it goed back to UMTS, you see the icon switcing between 3G and H.
When putting back the T-Mobile SIM i have trouble connecting with the GSM antenna's you see the Antenna symbol seraching. Normally it fixes to the provider within 3-10 seconds. T-mobile only has GPRS and UMTS, also my UMTS subscription is trothled down to max 224 kb/sec (This is cheaper for monthly costs). Maybe the trotheling is the problem?
When it does connect sometimes, after driving to my home or after several warm resets it's hard to connect to 3G. My work is situated in a building which has coated windows. So inside the building I only have GPRS reception. GPRS is no problem, when i walk outside, it switches to 3G (UMTS) allmost instantly except there is no data connection handover. I'm unable to get any bit from the 3G connection. It appears to be a solid connection because you see the solid 3G above the reception indicators.
Puting back the KPN sim and everything works as it should.
Regards Tom

WM6 Internet calling working over WiFi but not 3G

Hi there. I'm new to the forum and scratching my head on how to resolve a problem with VoIP over 3G.
I'm running the LVSW WM6 rom (great work by the way) on my iMate JasJam in order to take advantage of the integrated VoIP client. I used shaun33's SIP Config Tool to configure the SIP settings, and over WiFi it works like a charm!
The problem comes trying to use VoIP over 3G. When WiFi is turned off I get the "searching" message on the Today screen for a while, and then it changes to "No Service". I've used the config tool to enable VoIP over 3G/GSM, checked registry settings but nothing I try seems to make any difference.
I'm using the 3 network in Australia by the way, an the area of Sydney that I live in has good HSDPA coverage.
I've been scouring the forum and the web generally over the last few days trying to find an answer, all to no avail.
Is there anyone out there that can help?

Receive / Make Calls Whilst Using Gprs/edge

Whenever my friend is connected to net on a laptop using a WM6.1 machine with Internet sharing on a USB link and GPRS/Edge Internet connection she gets a Voicemail reply to any callers? Is this a problem with the phone or GSM provider.
It´s a network thing. Some providers set higher priorities to voice calls, so an active GPRS data connection is interrupted, others (like the one I have) unfortunately send incoming calls to voicemail and hold the data connection active.
Thought as much, thanks for the heads up.

new HTC user here having a weird problem

hey guys
ok so i have the TP2 running WM 6.5 professional
ROM 1.86.401.0 (67102) WWE
ROM date 25/9/2009
radio 4.49.25.17
protocol ver. 61.44tc.25.32U
my service provider is Etisalat in the UAE
the problem that im having is that when i set the BAND to AUTO, it picked up the the 3G network...but problem is that it keep shuffling between 3G and EDGE. because of that it wont recieve calls. one fix i was told was to manually select GSM BAND. the call problem was solved because of that.
but since i have done this, i been having another porblem. after using internet to say update the weather tab, i cant make or recieve call, or send sms or anything. everytime i use internet on the TP2, i have to switch to AIRPLANE MODE and then back to PHONE its driving me nuts
anyone facing the same problem? or has a fix to this?
Switching between 3G and Edge is normal, because not everywhere you have good service.
But just to make sure:
When you set band to AUTO and you are switching between 3G and Edge, can you call someone?
I had problems with my HTC Kaiser in the UAE. Etisalat and Du told me they only can provide mobile internet to BlackBerries and IPhones...
yeah, when it is switching between 3G and Edge, i cant make calls and i cant recieve calls either. they say my cell if off while its actually on
denlopviper said:
the problem that im having is that when i set the BAND to AUTO, it picked up the the 3G network...but problem is that it keep shuffling between 3G and EDGE. because of that it wont recieve calls. one fix i was told was to manually select GSM BAND. the call problem was solved because of that.
but since i have done this, i been having another porblem. after using internet to say update the weather tab, i cant make or recieve call, or send sms or anything. everytime i use internet on the TP2, i have to switch to AIRPLANE MODE and then back to PHONE its driving me nuts
anyone facing the same problem? or has a fix to this?
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Go into the Bands page (where you manually select the bands). Press "WCDMA" to enable 3G only. That will keep you in 3G, but if you go into a non-3G area, you won't get any signal at all.
EDGE can only handle one thing at a time. If you don't have an active data connection, you can use the phone (call, SMS). If data connection is active, you can't use the phone functions. So, if you're on a webpage and someone calls you, their call won't go through.
3G allows you to use phone functions and data at the same time. So if you're on a web page and someone calls you, you can answer it.
ok that was surprisingly simple.. thanks
Edge can only handle one thing at a time? I routinely get and make calls and browse at the same time (or get emails via active outlook push connections, etc). And this is both when I'm in Edge areas (eg when I go to my cabin in Montana (heck - ANYWHERE west of Milwaukee) or when I have 3G (around here).
This does, however, appear to be a feature strictly of AT&T. But I don't believe the inability to do simultaneous data and call is a hardware or even Edge technology limitation - I believe its a network specific limitation.
Having said that, my money would be on an incorrect radio or DLL hanging around in the phone...
(Standard disclaimer: I know nothing about non-US carriers or their oddities. I reserve the right to be wrong- a right I exercise somewhat frequently )
well i upgraded to WM6.5 so the radio is the one that came with the upgrade.nothing else has been changed.
have a feeling the problem is with the phone as my pervious phone, sony ericsson's P990i had absolutely no porblems switching from data to call and back to data without having to do anything.
one thing i noted is that once i start an internet session, it keeps running unless i turn the switch to airplane mode to force a connection break.

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