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Which has a better sound quality voip and skype?
Thanks in advance,

better!?
rgelfand said:
Which has a better sound quality voip and skype?
Thanks in advance,
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SKYPE

Skype!!!!!!!

Skype Version
g35driver said:
Skype!!!!!!!
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Which version Skype are you using?
Tks,

both the same! when you have a good voip program and a good provider for voip, than it's much better than skype! why? because it's cheaper to phone to people in foreign countries when you have a provider of the country you call to.
and when you need skype you have to pay for every bullsh... when you want to make calls not to a skype client you have to pay, when you want a mailbox you have to pay, when you want to recive calls not of a skype client you have to pay, ...
so i think voip is much better!

komodor86 said:
both the same! when you have a good voip program and a good provider for voip, than it's much better than skype! why? because it's cheaper to phone to people in foreign countries when you have a provider of the country you call to.
and when you need skype you have to pay for every bullsh... when you want to make calls not to a skype client you have to pay, when you want a mailbox you have to pay, when you want to recive calls not of a skype client you have to pay, ...
so i think voip is much better!
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How do you go abount finding good providers? I live in US.
To add to what you said, I like convinience of voip where it integragtes with wm6 seemlessly. This way you could use voice command etc... and you don't need wired headset.

rgelfand said:
How do you go abount finding good providers? I live in US.
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a good provider should have good prices, good sound quality and no disconnects or traffic problems while talking. besides there should not be a monthly fee, when you don't need a flatrate to talk
how i find a good provider?
first i search for a list with all voip providers in the hole state. than i think about where i wanna call cheaper and i compare some provider prices. when i have a list of providers with good prices i look for services they have. so some have a mailbox, or some have 50 free sms a month and others have cheaper hardware when you make a deal with them.
when i decided for 1 or 2 providers i search in the internet for reports of users, using the provider.
when this is to much work, there are some german sites on which you can compare a list of voip providers and as result of the search you get a grid with all providers which have that what you are looking for.
for example on this site you can compare voip providers worldwide http://www.voipreview.org/

Skype vs VoIP?
Sorry to be a nit-pick - Skype is VoIP. I think you mean:
Skype versus SIP (integrated with WM6) or
Skype versus H323
I'm not sure of the nitty-gritty of Skype, but most of the VoIP I've seen uses standard codecs over a real-time channel, usually using UDP e.g. G711, G723, G729, GSM etc. The difference here is the control plane i.e. SIP is text based markup versus Skype which is proprietary.
Personally I think the integrated SIP client in WM6 sucks. Its nice in the fact that its integrated with the dialler, but the support for G711 only/jump through hoops to get the provisioning working makes it a last resort for me. Counterpath has a good SIP client that even supports GSM, G729 but its a standalone app and not integrated into the phone.
My $0.02

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Nimbuzz vs Fring

Hi,
This is a new thing for me (yes, I am too late in this kind of VOIP service).
Which one is better for Android, judging for the client app?
If I read from the Nimbuzz at Cyrket, a lot of users complaint about the new version 1.4, Facebook got hacked, etc.
Fring also does not look satisfying.
So, if you are using this, which one do you recommend? and why?
For me, client reliability and network / connectivity are the most important.
Thanks for sharing !
Damn ...
I found that NimbuzzOut is not supported on Nimbuzz Android app
I want to use it to make international calls to land-line / mobile ...
calling to mobile and landlines works. just tried it. it took cash from my skype account
edit: i see. nimbuzz have their own system.
So, if I buy Skype credits ... then I can make call to mobile and landlines using Nimbuzz client, right? Because there is no native Skype client for Android ...
I prefer Nimbuzz own call system (NimbuzzOut), because it is much cheaper compare to Skype.
JaykaySLO said:
calling to mobile and landlines works. just tried it. it took cash from my skype account
edit: i see. nimbuzz have their own system.
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Yes if u have a skype account you buy skype credits and in nimbuzz justr login to your skype account .Voila.
Can you send SMS with either?
Nimbuzz says it sends it but it actually doesnt. havent tried with Fring.
..I read in the other thread about Nimbuzz that "it´s is always connected and it does not support push notification, so is draining alot battery.."
Well I used fring before, which was enough for my needs to have several account (skype,icq...), than I tried Nimbuzz and liked to have my Faceb. account, cool..BUT: the drain is real! Fring need much less battery!..but no FB
nimbuzz doesnt appear to have sip support in android client yet, big turn off for me, since im trying to consolidate messenger/communications apps.
sipdroid sounded like crap on my phone
fring seems pretty good, sip aim msn support and sip sounds really good quality, except its UI is ugly as balls, anyone know a way to skin it differently?
ive been using google voice with a gizmo5 number and setting up the sip account in fring and it connects pretty nicely for voip, its nice so far when i am home and have no cell reception and someone calls my cell(google voice number) and it sends the call to my sip client(fring)
I've tested both for making Skype-out calls. Both work fine. I'd prefer Nimbuzz because of the interface. But is it just me, or is there no dialer in Nimbuzz? This is the only reason I'm sticking with Fring at the moment...
I gotta say that I tried both and Nimbuzz was a clear winner for voice quality over wifi to Skype friends. Fring also has a slight delay in audio.
But I've kept Fring because of fring-a-ling (SIP calls) which work fine.
Does anybody know of any VOIP calling to international numbers for absolutely free for windows mobile. Cause im sick and tired of 200 dollar bills coming into my mail.
Thanks.
youngWMuser said:
Does anybody know of any VOIP calling to international numbers for absolutely free for windows mobile. Cause im sick and tired of 200 dollar bills coming into my mail.
Thanks.
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Absolutely free. I'm sure we would all want that.
Free calls to landlines don't exist. But what's wrong with Skype? The rates are ridiculously low.
http://www.skype.com/prices/callrates/
I've used fring. My landline is much cheaper. But if you add up all the minutes, It becomes expensive, especially to germany and UK. It's like 29 cents/min. Thats ALOT.

[Q] SipDroid and Google Voice

anyone else here find this combination as awesome as i do? i mean, you get 2000 minutes of free calling over wifi/3g data with this. pretty damn good deal in my opinion. it allowed me to drop my plan from the simply everything to the 450min/everything data plan.
How does it work?
I get unlimited minutes thanks to Google Voice and Sipgate One. I just use Fring for a SIP client instead, since it's a good deal more stable and clearer.
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How does it work?
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it initiates a voice over IP call with either wifi or your phones data connection instead of using cellular minutes. just like if you have phone service through your isp.
i use pbxes.org. i just configured fring with it and they sound about the same to be but sipdroid is a little spotty sometimes. we'll see. i tried sipgate one and couldnt get it to righ through to my phone or make outgoing calls. any suggestions?
client discussion- sipdroid vs fring
I tried sipdroid and it's GV integration which works fine (when it works) but it's not reliable enough to use regularly. Specifically, much of the time on incoming calls it rings but when I answer there's no sound on either end so no go...
Fring and sipgate has proven more reliable. I forward my GV number to my sipgate number (voice mail turned off) and fring will ring. This allows all my incoming calls to go over data. The quality is not landline good but it's intelligible and in general better than sipdroid. Plus, so far I have had no audio issues with Fring. I'd prefer to use sipdroid but no go unless it's more reliable. If someone has figured out the audio issue please let us know. I don't think it's a codec problem or at least modifying them didn't have any effect on the reliability.
reference below- just set up sipgate credentials in fring then have GV forward to your sipgate number. Just add it as a landline, etc as with any other line. You can test when GV calls the line to verify it. So fring in this configuration works reliably- much more reliably than sipdroid. The quality isn't perfect but it's "tin can" ok. My guess is Fring is using some very low bandwidth codec and the quality is a good as it's going to get over mobile data lines.
I got this set up.....but I have the SIPgate/SIP Sorcery through pbxes.org going to SIPDroid. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff, but it works really, really well. I tried fring, and it would always drop out. Without the pbxes.org, the audio was not the best...

Trying to get Sipgate + Gvoice set up.

Hey guys, I have a sipgate + google voice set up and it's all going great, but I happen to live in a very low quality reception area and will pretty much always be on EDGE and with only a 15-25 kbps download speed.
I would love to use wifi, but I live in a dorm where there is no public wifi (or wifi at all for that matter).
Anyway, my question is, are there any ways to lower the quality of the calls incoming and outgoing? I tried making a call earlier and the other person heard the message literally almost 15 seconds after I said it and it was almost completely garbled. Aren't there ways to make a voice call only use like 8kbps?
I am using the built in SIP client with Gingerbread and a sipgate account. I have no problems switching SIP providers as long as it's free.
This is very important to me, because I need it to call my parents back in the states for free because I am in Israel studying for a year.
I'm not positive because I haven't tried it myself, but I believe you can use pbxes to route communications between your sipgate account and your SIP client. Pbxes allows the use of other codecs and lower bitrates, so it should allow for a little better quality when you have a poor connection. Accounts are available at http://pbxes.org/.
You should do a Google search on pbxes, sipgate, and Google Voice. I know there are some guides out there on how to set it up...

[Q] Best Google Voice setup for VOIP calls

What is the best setup you found for incoming/outgoing Google Voice VOIP calls on a (Sprint) Galaxy Nexus? Interested in apps that work very well over wi-fi only, not over mobile data.
I'm looking for something that has great voice quality and also integrates seamlessly with the native dialer so that when not on wifi it makes phone calls over the cell radio and when on wi-fi it makes VOIP calls using Google Voice.
I see pbxes.org mentioned a lot. Is it worth the trouble given that they store the GV password on their server and then from what I understand they have to re-code from the GV codec to whatever codec the SIP client on the phone negotiates with the pbxes servers - I hope my understanding of how it works is correct.
Other options I've seen mentioned: Groove IP, Spare Phone, Talkatone.
Not sure which approach works best, maybe the experts here can save me some research time.
And as a SIP client, what works well? I tried the native phone SIP client with a SIP VOIP service and it sounded terrible, not sure why the native one doesn't work well.
Thanks for your help.
I use groove IP no problems
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Anyone else? What's your great Google Voice setup?
I use GrooveIP as well. But I really want to get my pbxes.org working on my call setting. That is what I am going to work on today.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684550
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684550
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Thanks, this is interesting but unfortunately it is too cumbersome to use by the person I'm setting up the phone for. I'd like a solution that's fully automated, use 1 dialer only (either native or a different app) that can smartly route calls via GV when on wifi (at home) or cell when not on wifi.
You can setup your PBXes account just like the tutorials (with SIPdroid) and then put the account info into the regular dialer. I think the extra steps to use the stock dialer were in a wiki somewhere or some external webpage (not on this forum).
You only need SIPdroid to create the free extension on PBXes and follow the tutorials to get all setup. Then you can go into the stock dialer and put in accountname-200, password, and then pbxes.org as the domain. You can choose to receive calls on wifi only or while on a data connection with a checkbox. I've heard that the codec used with the stock dialer isn't that great, though. It's one of those things you'd have to tryout for yourself.
One dialer to send and receive calls. It even lets you know if it's a data call or not. Maybe this is something you wanted to look into?
What SIP client pairs well with PBXes? I know the stock dialer SIP is very poor, I tried it with another SIP service and the call quality was mediocre, while their dedicated client worked very well, so at least I know it's not the phone hardware, it's the software.
I also read about potential latency issues with PBXes because they only have 1 server in NY. Is that still the case or the latency issues have been resolved? I guess in general I'm looking for a fairly reliable service though I'm prepared to accept occasional hiccups.
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sirxdroid said:
What is the best setup you found for incoming/outgoing Google Voice VOIP calls on a (Sprint) Galaxy Nexus? Interested in apps that work very well over wi-fi only, not over mobile data.
I'm looking for something that has great voice quality and also integrates seamlessly with the native dialer so that when not on wifi it makes phone calls over the cell radio and when on wi-fi it makes VOIP calls using Google Voice.
I see pbxes.org mentioned a lot. Is it worth the trouble given that they store the GV password on their server and then from what I understand they have to re-code from the GV codec to whatever codec the SIP client on the phone negotiates with the pbxes servers - I hope my understanding of how it works is correct.
Other options I've seen mentioned: Groove IP, Spare Phone, Talkatone.
Not sure which approach works best, maybe the experts here can save me some research time.
And as a SIP client, what works well? I tried the native phone SIP client with a SIP VOIP servic e and it sounded terrible, not sure why the native one doesn't work well.
Thanks for your help.
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Mr.binglejellsx2 is almost correct. I have been deal with more than 15 apps to get best. create a account by using sipdroid. make sure you have got green dot and place one out going and incoming call via sipdroid. Exit sipdroid from your phone. go to pbxes.org and login under extension under sipdroid 200 (from left) than right, under device option retype your password. (means you are get ride of sipdroid and ready for new sip). in your phone open sipdroid and make sure your got yellow and exit. in your phone call setting, add new account, your username-200 password, server is pbxes.org under option make sure your port is 5060 and not uda must be tcp. hit back and your phone should say receiving call. If not working go to pbxes.org and re type password same extension and under personal data enter your password two times where required and submit start (means, you dont want sipdroid, the second sip and now ready for any new getaway which will be your native sip) this must work. I don't see best call quality anywhere. this is awesome especially for wifi. just like your carrier. I use this everyday for international call.. let me know if don't work. If works just enjoy..
Thanks for your reply. I've been using Groove IP with very good results over wifi (that's what I care about, Sprint 3G mobile data is so bad anyway that it can't carry a call). The paid Groove IP integrates nicely with the native dialer too, so the experience is good.
sirxdroid said:
Thanks for your reply. I've been using Groove IP with very good results over wifi (that's what I care about, Sprint 3G mobile data is so bad anyway that it can't carry a call). The paid Groove IP integrates nicely with the native dialer too, so the experience is good.
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You are very welcome. Glad that you have got the good one. Good people always have good only..

Can N7 2013 3G/LTE make calls in some way?

Hi, I've got a Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi only but this device is very nice and having a 7" device with me everyday is not a problem, so I'm thinking to sell my smartphone, sell my Nexus and buy another Nexus 2013 3G/LTE.
Is there a way to make calls? Maybe installing a ROM or doing some hack, everything...
If yes, what must I do?
Thank you and sorry for my bad, bad, bad english.
You could use Google Voice? That's what I use allows text as well.
ty949 said:
You could use Google Voice? That's what I use allows text as well.
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No, I can't: here in Italy no one use Google Voice, my friends and my family use Vodafone IT and we call each other free with some offers.
I'm looking for some way to make regoular calls.
Thank you
I think the only way to make calls is to use VoIP. You can set in the app that when you call from VoIP it will show your real number.. but people will not be able to call you back. Or maybe you could leave your phone at home, and set call forwarding to an VoIP number?
They don't need Google voice for you to use it.
With voice+ on cm11 you can text through Google voice to any regular phone number.
There could be a way in the future with some modification, I read the other day that AT&T and Tmobile are testing VoLTE (Voice Over LTE). Sounds like the ATT could be out sooner than Tmobile. Maybe we will get something at the end of the year.
ty949 said:
You could use Google Voice? That's what I use allows text as well.
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I use a playstore free app called Fongo...has all of the free services of a home Voip service...echo is an issue though but works great with a set of headphones. Unlimited free calling to all major cities in Canada...ANY phone. Only in Canada though.
It is impossible. U only make call through apps such as Skype, Viber or Whatsapp :v
koller1994 said:
It is impossible. U only make call through apps such as Skype, Viber or Whatsapp :v
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use VOIP apps, gry grooveIP or bria tablet

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