Trouble with Wifi and Bluetooth at same time - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I've searched around for this and can't find anything, so maybe someone can help to point me in the right direction or let me know that at least the problem is known but not fixed yet.
I can't get Wifi and Bluetooth to work on my 8525 with WM6, currently using Schap's 3.54c rom and radio version 1.48.
I have motorola s805 stereo bluetooth headphones and would like to stream radio over my work's wifi and hear it on my headphones.
The problem is Neither wifi or bluetooth work reliably when used at the same time, (no problems individually). I have even tried reducing the bit pool, but can't take it below 24 because it sounds to bad then, but it still doesn't work.
Anyone have any ideas or can at least verify you have the same problem?

I have the same issue when trying to play internet radio over wifi with my ht820 a2dp linked to the jasjam (Sleuths v2 rom). The only time i ever got a2dp and wifi streaming to work was with the widcomm bt driver that is now extinct.
Thus i have come to the conclusion that the problem is not with the hw but has more to do with the standard ms bt stack.
If anyone has found a workaround please do share

Thats a start
Thanks, that is helpful.
I remember seeing a widcomm stack thread....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Widcomm_stack
I'm going to check that out, also if there is a specific rom that comes with the widcomm stack I'd be interested to know.

I find that with bluetooth turned on I can associate to my Cisco AP at all. As soon as I turn Bluetooth off it works fine.
I had hoped my issue was due to the way the particular WM6 was put together but now Im using offical Dopod and it is the same.

Widcomm stack
Well I found this
http://www.htc-devs.com/uploads/Univ...m_bt_stack.CAB
at the end of the Widcomm stack for Hermes development thread.
I'm not sure where it came from, but I installed it and so far I can use IE while connected to my home wireless network, and listen to music on my headphones.
The com manager will not show bluetooth as being on, but go to settings-bluetooth and you can re-pair.
Currently I'm getting some hiccups, but its working at least. I'll keep you updated and I would still like to see a rom that incorporates this stack so that the com manager works right.
It also changes the headset icon on the top bar.

Streaming!
I'm streaming SomaFM with no problems!

AVRCP problems
I didn't notice this at first, but after the widcomm stack has been installed the AVRCP functions don't work... so Im going back.

AVRCP
It works in WMP, just not audiomanager anymore.

Bricking Blog
Pretty much what this thread has turned into.
If you install that cab above, don't uninstall it, you'll get bricked.

helpful reading

Related

BLUETOOTH STACK - please please help me

I have read every post about MS bluetooth stack vs widcomm etc....
I know someone can build a cab file that will uninstall the MS one and replace with the newest widcomm stack.
I LOVE my universal but I carry TWO phones with me because the universal's connection via bluetooth is not PERFECT for phone calls like the blackberry (oh i fking hate the blackberry for everything else).
I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to use only my Universal but the static on bluetooth KILLS me because I am on the phone 10 hours a day.
PLEASE please help me. Fish
This file fix Blue Tooth
Bluetooth stack
I would second Fish's comments about the Univerasl and the Bluetooth stack. I have bluetooth in my car and it is great WHEN it works. When it doesn't work it takes a lot of tinkering to get the car to recognize the phone again. I'm of course not sure if the issue is on the Universal side, but Bluetooth turns it self off, so there is some kind of problem. I have tried different radios, currently 1.13 (tried 1.14 as well, but went back). I'm very interested in finding a solution (not using two phones), can you please provide some detail on what the CAB file does to Bluetooth?
Thanks,
Sven
Logout. said:
This file fix Blue Tooth
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What exactly does this file fix/change ?
I've just installed the WM6 crossbow helmi_c version
do I still need this file ?
This is a Stack changer to change from MS BT stack to Cambridge Silicon Radio BT stack. Originally developed for Dell AXIM (about what I've found). Seems to work fine there, but need to uninstall/reinstall after every soft-reset because of a volume lock bug.
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=392&more=1
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=108767&page=1
UPDATE
Do not install this patch yet. It is over a year old.
Follow the development/information on Widcomm BT Stack instead. Following links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003
SO this is a different BT stack then the original MS and the widecomm ?
Daelyn said:
UPDATE
Do not install this patch yet. It is over a year old.
Follow the development/information on Widcomm BT Stack instead. Following links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003
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True
reading the posts in the forum he linked:
12-12-05, 09:57 PM
I'd rather go with the widecomm BT
I installed the Hermes Widcomm BT stack on my Universal. Sound is great, but the rest is troublesome. We need a developer to fix the code for us so it works on the UNiversal .
Check my thread in UNiversal/accessories. Or move that thread over here please!
Daelyn said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419&page=20
Tried out BT Stack change for Hermes patch/program.
TEST RESULTS ON UNIVERSAL WITH WM6 (Midget aka Helmi unreleased)
Sound IS great. But other than that, this program does not work very well on my device. Of course this is designed for Hermes but I gave it a shot.
Issues:
1:
Screen flickers (only when this BT is turned on).
Flickers really bad and unable to use device.
Fix: set the device to standby (power button) and wake it up again. Flickering gone
2:
Once BT is deactivated for a few minutes I can't start it again.
Fix: No fix found yet. Only a Soft-reset and directly activate BT works.
3:
I can't use my GSM/UMTS connection anymore. Trying endlessly. Even after soft-reset's I can't connect. WiFi works fine though.
Fix: No fix found yet.
4:
Unable to uninstall this program. Tried several times. I get to the "Soft Reset Device Yes/Cancel". I soft reset, program still there and working.
5:
Hard-Reset, complete setup with WAP, MMS, MAIL etc.
Installed Widcomm BT Stack again.
Soft-reset:
Screen flickering (fix)
No 3G/UMTS connection avalible anymore. Even when BT stack is completly shut down.
We need a specific one for our Universal. Who's up to fixing this for us?
KEEPING this post updated.
EDIT 06: 18:40 @ 21/01/07
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Quoted from my A2DP/AVRCP thread in accessories.
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
xixfishxix said:
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
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try this link
it may help
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/increase_bluetooth_volume
frz
Thanks for the info
I changed the channel in the registry of the device to channel 5 as suggested on that webpage. It was the same quality. I then tried a few other channels and the same results - connection quality still staticy.
Thank you very much for trying to help me though. Fish
xixfishxix said:
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
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I'm also worried with the same issue, because I've exactly the same problem. But I don't think only altering of BT stack should fix the problem. My understanding is, something is also to be done in radio (rom) side itself. Because I was using a different radio rom last year at about May or June and my BT headset worked perfect. But I can't remember now about what build that was, because later on I've updated my radio to few other releases.
Radio rom has NOTHING to do with the Bluetooth or Wifi - It's ONLY the firmware for the GSM chip.
xixfishxix said:
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
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We know the MS BT stack is crappy. I found out today that Helmi_c is developing one. But, still, this thread should be more about how to resolve the BT stack change (or just shut it until our friend Helmi_c finishes his school stuff and gets back to being the ROM-N3rd in need of more RAM that we all love so much) than bringing up more issues about the MS BT stack.
Thanks.
guys,tried almost all roms on my universal,some of them works a few days,after 3 months i flashed with the good old official rom,better and stable than all
anyway,the only reason for this waste of time was this a2dp issue,being not able to listen music to my motorokr(tested with 2 laptops and 2 htc,working great)
so i think is just some kind of incompatibility motorokr-universal(yes,i try all the a2dp hacks/registry editing found here

[HTC 8525 + WM6] Bluetooth keeps disconnecting

Hello!
I do not know if someone has the same issue. I upgraded the WM6 to my HTC 8525 and bluetooth just keeps disconnecting all the time. It happened without any reason at all. I am using "Plantronics 510". The headset is fine, just phone switches the bluetooth off and I need to go to settings to switch it back on. I saw some people have a problem with car-enabled bluetooth. Not sure if it is the same problem.
Any advice? Does someone get the same problem? Any patch or solution?
Thank you!
viva_unix said:
Hello!
I do not know if someone has the same issue. I upgraded the WM6 to my HTC 8525 and bluetooth just keeps disconnecting all the time. It happened without any reason at all. I am using "Plantronics 510". The headset is fine, just phone switches the bluetooth off and I need to go to settings to switch it back on. I saw some people have a problem with car-enabled bluetooth. Not sure if it is the same problem.
Any advice? Does someone get the same problem? Any patch or solution?
Thank you!
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which WM6 ROM are you using?
I had this problem with my Audi A4 car phone. The ROM versions using build Build 17745.0.2.3 were not good for that. Now, I'm using the Black Majik ROM and that works like a dream for the BT connections.
walshieau said:
which WM6 ROM are you using?
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I have Cingular HTC 8525 [HERM100]
ROM Version: 3.30.2.1
ROM Date: 04/17/07
Radio version: 1.41.00.10
Protocol Version: 32.74.7020.18H
viva_unix said:
Hello!
I do not know if someone has the same issue. I upgraded the WM6 to my HTC 8525 and bluetooth just keeps disconnecting all the time. It happened without any reason at all. I am using "Plantronics 510". The headset is fine, just phone switches the bluetooth off and I need to go to settings to switch it back on. I saw some people have a problem with car-enabled bluetooth. Not sure if it is the same problem.
Any advice? Does someone get the same problem? Any patch or solution?
Thank you!
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Did you manage to solve this? Is so how?
Thanks
Msuk
i started having the same problems but i noticed it after i installed the voice command.. the rom that i use is the gm360 gold. the problem ive got was whenever i was in a phone call using my blutooth and i received a text message it would deactivate my headset. if ur having somewhat of the same problem try disabling ur voice command software...
Multiple AT&T/HTC WM6 ROMs?
My 8525 with the WM6 ROM can no longer route the audio to the BT headset (a Moto HS850 - but this is irrelevant, I suspect).
Basic BT headset usage was fine with WM5 (excepting the known issues with VoiceCommand).
I thought that perhaps the issue was related to the various little registry tweaks and sw patches. However, I had to do a reflash (for other reasons) and currently have just the default WM6, no registry tweaks, no BT sw patches, and MS VoiceCommand 1.6 installed (but set to NOT use the BT headset).
Pairing works fine. So does activation recognition (i.e. the little headset appears in the notification area when I open the boom on the headset and I can hear the background establishment of the BT channel). But audio (dialing tones and Connected call audio) do not reach the headset. The audio also doesn't go to the phone's speaker.
So, are the official ROM updates that repair this? Or, is the cost of going to WM6 the abandonment of BT headsets?
By the way, VoiceCommand 1.6 works fine--if I tell it to stay away from the BT headset.
Pays WM6 Roms
I had the same BT disconnecting problems with my original german Vodafone WM5 and also still have them with Pays WM6 ROMs (2.02 - 2.15) in my Audi A6 MMI.
With the original german HTC WM6 ROM BT worked very well.
Everything else on Pays ROMs is really great. He´s doing great jobs.
Any idea?
I have the same problem with my 8525 and I use plantronics 520. It did the same thing even with other headset too, and also happens in WM5.0, 6.0 and 6.1.
I am tending to believe its a hardware issue, but dont know how to prove it!
ai6908 said:
I have the same problem with my 8525 and I use plantronics 520. It did the same thing even with other headset too, and also happens in WM5.0, 6.0 and 6.1.
I am tending to believe its a hardware issue, but dont know how to prove it!
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Come On, experts on the XDA portal, no solution?? noooo way!!??
My friend had the same issue with an tytn2 and last schap's rom in french language.
After an hard reset i get BT work fine with his OPEL.
But before i made lot of test desinstalling soft check registery key with no result. I still do know why BT was disconecting woth no reason.
Cheers.
Audi Bluetooth hands free
I had the same problems in wm6 with some roms.
I use the official HTC TyTn wm6 with excelents results, also Schaps 4.31 work very good (No disconection at all).
Now I am using Pay WWE 4.30 with many disconections.
BTW I have the audi TT bluetooth option.
On my 8525 Hermes I use the latest Pays Rom and it was disconnecting all the time (Parrot BT) - BUT then I decided to TURN OFF THE WAN and it improved greatly. Other thing I noticed is that the Hermes has to be in DIRECT LINE OF SITE of the BT device at all times or it is erratic.
BT
It seems there are differences in the WM6 versions. As said earlier in this thread for me original HTC and Schaps WM6 ROM versions are running without any BT disconnections.
Tried several WM6.1 versions now and every single one is working fine with my Audi MMI.
Similar problems handing BT control between applications
Hi all, I've been experiencing similar problems since changing ROMs. Originally with Schaps 3.60a I was able to make a call whilst listening to music all using my BT headphones. The Call would pause the music & resume afterward. It worked great! However since changing to Schaps 4.0, 4.2 & now CRC's PHKv12r9, I've never had the same. On a couple of rare occasions it has all worked fine but more often the bluetooth has to be turned off & back on again to reconnect. it seems to relate to what other programs are also running. I suspect there must be registry settings which control the bluetooth operational modes which are brought into play by the various programs running.

WM6 ROMs upgrade = frequent bluetooth headset disconnects...

Hey all. I've tried searching over and over for the forums, but I can't find an answer to my specific problem. So, here's the deal:
I use a regular/mono bluetooth headset. I have a Cingular 8525 which originally had WM5. I had no problem with my bluetooth headset. Ever since the WM6 ROMs have been made available, I've tried a few different ones. No matter which one I've tried, my bluetooth headset now starts randomly stops pairing/dropping the call in a middle of a conversation.
It's strange because technically a bluetooth headset disconnect shouldn't drop my call at the same time, but it seems to do both. I have a good signal strength, so that's not the issue. I've tried the different radio ROMs (now I'm on ROM 1.50.00.10 or something), and it still does the same thing.
I've read where maybe it's the A2DP settings that is messing up with my headset, but I'm not sure if that's it. What do you guys recommend or is anyone having a similar problem? It's very annoying that I keep getting my calls via headset dropped, and I'd like to avoid just reverting back to WM5 to fix the problem...
Thanks.
I had similar problems with some of the initial builds of the WM6 ROMs. But I am now running vp3G's fantastic ROM and have had zero problems/drops from BT. I can't promise you won't have problems but for me it's been great.
having the same problem
not as bad as you are. But when i want to make a call the headset is not connected to the phone. Im using the jawbone. Like you no problems with wm5. Now I have to soft reset 3 or 5 times a day. Im also using VP3G rom
I've had similar issues, I have a moto h500 and h700, and I've had the problem with VP3G and the new TNT ROM.
I've noticed this particularly with the MS VC 1.6 (I'm using the "BT Fixed MS VC 1.6 8525" cab which from what I've seen is the only one that consistently transfers audio to the headset) so I'll do the inital voice command which usually works, but then after the first ring or so the headset disconnects (still paired though). I can then go into the menu during the call and choose "Use Headset On" and get the audio back, but I shouldn't have to do that in the first place.
I've had the same issue with both roms and with radios 1.48 and 1.51
If anyone has a similar setup working as it should, which radios/roms/headsets/and VC installs are you using?
Thanks!
I've found part of the issue almost appears to be a 'timeout' of sorts, where if the phone rings for awhile without a connection, it disconnects the bluetooth....does anyone know of any registry settings etc for this?
Other than general WM6, it doesn't seem to be ROM-specific for me. I've tried a few different WM6 ROMs and they all do the same thing. Interestingly, radio 1.40.30.00 seems not to do it as much as the other radios. So, I've stuck with that one after trying everything else. I thought maybe part of it could be the AD2P settings in WM6 causing the problems.. because I don't have a stereo headset, but I'm not sure what the WM5 settings are for the bluetooth or if there's a way to turn off AD2P and that would make it work...
with radio 1.40.30.00 though i don't get any more of the disconnects... only when I put my landline phone (connected via bluetooth to the cell) on speakerphone does it drop the call... weird, but it does it pretty consistently. using the landline phone regularly without speakerphone i don't get a drop call.
p.s. i'm using cingular's 8525, in charleston, south carolina. currently running Sleuth's 3.54c ROM with radio 1.40.30.00

Widcomm+BT GPS+A2DP equal weird problem

Hello,
I'm new here, but I recently got a Axim X51v. I decided to immediately (after playing around with it for a while) to flash it to the WM6 Football ROM. It works well and so far that part I haven't found any problems with.
Everyone recommends the Widcomm BT Stack so I installed it and have very odd results. With Widcomm I am able to use A2DP well and the pairing and setup is easy and great. Somehow it cripples my ability to use my BT GPS Receiver (Holux 236). TomTom 6 will not detect the GPS signal at all, but the GPS reciever is paired and everything.
If I don't use Widcomm then A2DP does not work. I use a pair of Kyocera BT headphones and it will pair with the normal BT setup and it is recognized as a headset. When I try to use it with Windows Media I will hear the first second and then nothing. The player continues to play, but I just hear dead air. The GPS receiver works well when Widcomm isn't installed. It automatically detects it and TomTom gets the signal to work.
I really like the Widcomm BT Stack, but I kind of need the GPS. I've read some articles on different setups, but I can't find many on GPS problems and if I find some they don't have any answers. If you have any advice on what I could then please post. From my search I haven't found anything here either, but if I'm wrong then please point me to the right direction.

XDA Orbit 2, TomTom and Bluetooth

Hi,
I have the following problem:
I am using XDA Orbit 2 and a car-radio Maqma MQ-106BT. This radio offers Bluetooth-connection to my XDA. It supports the BT-headset (A2DP) and the handsfree profiles.
After pairing the car-radio is shown with both active profiles in the settings-screen of the XDA.
I want the car-radio to play the radio program and to give the TomTom-voice using the car-speakers. The system works very well for the phonefunktion. But if I start TomTom the radio sound stops and only the voice of TomTom is to be heard but nothing between the TomTom comments. It seems, as if TomTom uses the BT-headset Profile and thus the radio is always waiting for sound from the XDA.
Are there XDA-settings which would help me or is there a possibility to force TomTom to use the handsfree profile, thus only muting the radio if there are comments from the navigation?
I hope here are some experts who are able to help me!
Best regards from Luebeck
Micha
Hi,
I can't believe it: Not even one answer?
Is it really such a special task? I have thought that here in this forum there are only XDA-specialists???
Please, if there is someone who has an idea, please help!!!
Regards
Micha
Bump, I have a similar question in the Athena forum. Best guess I have is to mess with the registry to force the tomtom commands to not go through A2DP, but through HCP (phone signal) - that way priority is assured, but you may have to physically hang up the signal to get back to radio. At least the signal would start automatically....
As far as i know to allow the radio to be played in between tomtom voice commands you would need a fixed wired connection and also a car radio system that allows line in input to be switched on and off. The problem isnt the PDA the problem is the radio system in the car.
As far as i know to allow the radio to be played in between tomtom voice commands you would need a fixed wired connection and also a car radio system that allows line in input to be switched on and off. The problem isnt the PDA the problem is the radio system in the car.
i have the same issue with the tytn2, i cant get my tomtom sound over my radio.
I'd appreciate it if anyone could help!
fwiw, I am still searching the forum for a solution. I have found some old bluetooth posts, that may hold the key:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281977
in particular, message #2 of thread, concerning BTAudioNav hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1046077&postcount=2
Some of this info is dated, so I haven't tried anything yet, and as the posts indicate, it takes 2 to tango. The WM6 device may be doing everything right, but the equipment you are pairing to may not be able to be configured correctly....
Update, BTAudioNav is not working, I assume that it is for PocketPC and I am running WM6
?!? Tomtom commands
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I have the same problem.
Phone: HTC tytn2
Bury Wired Handfree
Perfect Sound Quality for Calls but: No system Sound, no TomTom Sound.
Yesterday i drive on the Highway, Tomtom was on and a call was incoming but the tytn2 was rebooting by him self .... AND NOW IT WORKS !
I hear all tomtom commands! I don't no why but it works!!!
Update, it seems that tomtom goes over the a2dp signal and not the handsfree profile.
If it was handsfree profile, it would cut into the car stereo music. A2dp doesn't have priority though with most car stereos.
Had I known this, I wouldn't of purchased tomtom....

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