Does anyone know if there is a solution to this problem? I flashed my 8525 with the vp3G 3.0 but now when I'm using the phone, the mapping of the qwerty pad seems to change to the numbers and symbols, and you cannot type letters. Does anyone know a fix?
oh shiitt!
noticed same thing. gets annoying coz i have to type with onscreenkeyboard or phonepad if im on the phone and textingg at the same time
I know that it is not a problem with just my phone because I have a friend who flashed his phone with the same vp3G rom and he experienced the same problem.
does any of the other WM6 "officiial" updates experience this same problem?
This has already been brought up in vp3Gs 3.0 Rom thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317952
Just click that ^ link and do a search on that thread only for information on this problem.
I loaded the vpg 3.0 at&t official and did a soft reset before the extended rom loaded. When I did this the numbers and symbols were maped wrong. I then HR and reloaded vpg3.0 and let the extended rom load. Problem solved for my 8525.
Oh yeah later I saw the HTcustom program under Programs/Accessories/HTcustom, and there is a tab for keyboard where you can select Cingular. I didn't need it since the extrom loaded, but you might want to try and see if that helps.
go into registry edit. hkey_local_machine\software\oem\qwerty
edit layout value to either hex:40409 or dec:263177
Nope, no PROBLEMOS with the original one. Neither with the Schap's version.........
Good luck!
p.s. there is a WIKI.......
The straight scoop
OK people, time to get the facts straight on this.
The issue the OP refers to is NOT the same as the issue whereby special symbols are incorrect on the Cingular/AT&T 8525 without the proper OEM\Qwerty setting.
The issue the OP refers to is this: While in a call, the numeric hardware keys are locked as such and are unusable as letters in applications such as SMS.
With mviana's help (and a crapload of flashing various ROMs on his part), we have determined the issue is NOT limited to my ROM. It appears to have cropped up with the latest "official" builds, starting with the Dopod 3.54 release and includes the AT&T 3.57 release (upon which vp3G 3.0 is based, of course).
That said, it has very clearly not affected everyone as on several occasions I have observed posts from two people running the same ROM -- one says he has the problem and the other says he doesn't. Even within this post Bensat noted he has no problem with the HTC or schaps, however posts can be found to the contrary.
I'm still gathering info on this, however I'm beginning to believe it may be germane to certain Hermes models -- specifically the Cingular/AT&T 8525 (aka Hermes 100). We may note that Bensat has a TyTN (aka Hermes 200).
One thing's for certain: It's not an evident nor "easy" fix.
EDIT: Found a TyTN that has the problem with the "official" AT&T (and mine).
Why bother to open a new thread for the issue taht suppost to post in VP3G's thread? Read my avatar <---------
Okay, quick question. Has at&t actually released an official wm6 upgrade for the 8525?
nope. and when they do "officially", not like "officially" as in "officially on this board" but as in "officially, and warranty supported by ATT", you will find it HERE: http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Wonder what's taking them so long to release it :\ (Sorry to trail off OP's topic)
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Hello all,
I recently purchased a Cingular 8525 and I'm really considering upgrading the phone's OS to WM6. I've successfully used the unlocker to unlock the SIM and made it SuperCID.
I did a search on this topic but really couldn't find anything that was in one spot....
I'm creating this poll for all those newbies (like myself who want to upgrade).
This poll is for any flavor of WM6....
Cheers to all...
Wow!!!!
It's pretty amazing that no one has bricked their phone while upgrading to WM6. As a newbie, I feel pretty confident upgrading this weekend...
I've printed up the guides and downloaded all the software...
I've decided to use the LVSW version.
Thank you to all for all your input and advice.
There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll
mfabre said:
There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll
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That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim
I brick and can unbrick my tytn
Yes i try to upgrade my softbank with a dopod rom, for winmobil6 LVSW, and my phone brick after a 17% but reading all wiki, i can recover so is beautiful mobile 6, i'm happy with black edition 1.1 cyu
I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim
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I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...
Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...
Hi truffle1234,
You may want to create a new thread asking your question. The intent of this thread is to find out the installation success rate for people who have already tried to upgrade to WM6.
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Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...
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joel32137 said:
I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
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Well...I guess after I successfully flashed LVSW without bricking my (almost) new 8525 I thought what the hell and flashed Black v1.2 on the spur of the moment...my wife says I have impulse control issues. But I'm glad I did. It seems to run smoother, quicker response and better handling of some of my 3rd part apps.
I've done ALOT of trial and error. I have hard reset my phone (of my own volition) 5 times over the past week. I'm a bit OCD and after trying out programs to see how I run it seemed like the memory went back up all the way. So I hard reset to start over again.
I finally have it working the way I like and the Black, from my low-level of experience, seems stable and more functional than the Palm I used t carry.
I have the following installed:
Weather to Go (working construction/realty I need accurate Wx)
BattMemory (I'm anal about checking program memory and its a small plug in)
O2Plus (great for hitting a button and seeing what apps are open)
Palm threated SMS (I hate the native SMS program on the 8525)
MORTGAGECalc (REALTOR, nuff said)
GoogleMaps (REALTOR, nuff said)
Batti (I like the top bar that shows charging status and level no matter what app I'm in
ClearTemp (cleans out settings and temp filed quickly)
VibraSwitch (allows me to switch between vib and sound a la Treo 650)
PTTFix (allows me to remap the PTT button)
I've tried some other apps that did not go so well...SPB, Mobile Shell worked well a few days then slowed everything down...I liked the tabs and the plug in but it kept slowing the system down...and a bunch of others.
I'm not a big media user so I don't need TCMP or any other cool multimedia gadgets so I kept it to what I need. I keep my laptop with me normally so I don't need to watch movies or do any of that stuff. Most of my business work is done on the laptop. I have avvenu (www.avvenu.com) on my desktop so I can pull any file from my desktop from my phone via IE, which is a nice feature.
I soft reset every morning when waking the system up and it runs alot smoother than my T650 did.
I've not missed a single call since getting the 8525, the Push email is alot better than 3rd party apps for Palm, the 3G rocks where I am, and I get better reception. On my T650 I would get 1-2 bars or no service sitting in my house but with the 8525 I get 2-3 3G bars as a rule.
JIm
Impatiently waiting for Black v2.0 to be released!
aatjitra said:
I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...
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Check out the Hermes Section and look for "Palm SMS" thread or something like that. It goes over the MMS settings quite in depth.
just follow the guide and it should be fine. I am a beginner to this too but do some research and reading and follow the GUIDE! the guide is excellent!
Well everybody, just wanted to give a brief update that I was able to upgrade my Cingular 8525 to WM6 No problems on this end. Would definitely recommend the update to all.
Which flavour did you upgrade to??
Black is back in
I had no problems with either Black 1.1 or 1.2. Upgrades went like a charm. Not waiting for Black 2.0
Used Mr Vanx's guide to upgrade my HERM200 to the LVSW edition (25/3 version). I encountered no problems at all.
Device seems to work fine, though in Surinam we don't have all the advanced mobile phone features as in europe (like gprs etc).
First time upgrade
During call I can type only numbers with buttons where they are. When call is stopped keyboard goes to normal. This is really annoying when you try to write note when speaking...
lol try searching around for it man
Not seen any resolution to the Number keys stuck while in-call. Doesn't seem to be resolved yet per the last post I saw on it:
"8/04/2007 Originally Posted by schaps: Not yet, this problem also occurs on official WM6 ROMs so it doesn't help me to focus the problem. But for sure this issue is not caused by the keyboard driver."
Yes, I actually asked whether the new 3.60 Schap's Rom fixed the problem, but have not heard an answer one way or the other....
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Yes, I actually asked whether the new 3.60 Schap's Rom fixed the problem, but have not heard an answer one way or the other....
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If it's based on any of the new WM6 ROM's probably not. Although I have heard that some people are not having the issue at all.
the new 3.60 Schap's Rom does not fix this problem... Let's wait then.
this question is going to get as annoying as "I just flashed ??? rom and now my function keys aren't right!"
SEARCH
Its a known problem.. hopefully it gets fixed!
Hi,
Just tested and the keyword worked just fine.
I'm using the Schaps 3.60a BETA rom.
Regards,
Hello everyone,
I did a search already and I couldn't find the fix so don't flame me.
When Im typing, the [email protected]#_- and the rest of them are all mixed up.
How do I get the buttons to represent the symbol that they are supposed to?
Thanks for your help
Jim
Qwerty
If you're on cingular US..
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=dword:263177
Several answers
Schaps builds a form of this into his roms. There's one by Shadowmite called HTCustom and I believe that the latest version is 1.7 (search the posts).
The code is freeware if I remember correctly so make sure to check out your options before deciding on one specific install.
I use Schaps v3.60a, which has it built in. Just look for the "Cingular" option under the keyboard section if you are using a Cingular/AT&T 8525, which I'm just guessing you are since I have had/heard the same complaint many times.
I'm using Schaps' 3.60a...I found it in Advanced Config icon where the HTC Custom icon was.
So it's Programs\system tools\Advanced Config. Then it's the Misc. Tab there is a drop down to select Cingular Layout for keyboard.
For my 8525
So, I upgraded my 8525 to the standard HTC WM6 ROM. It's all GREAT except that when using the hardware slideout keybard the symbols are not on their assigned keys.
I must have a diferent country layout somehow?
I've tried a few of the reg hacks that are suggested but none seem to work. Anyone have a any great ideas?
Thanks in Advance
Cingular has a different keyboard layout than anyother HTC reseller, if you have Schnaps you can change the config in advanced settings (not sure about other cooked roms) or you can use a cab fix (HTC custom will let you change it to). The cab fix is attached to this post.
aaronsmckee said:
Cingular has a different keyboard layout than anyother HTC reseller, if you have Schnaps you can change the config in advanced settings (not sure about other cooked roms) or you can use a cab fix (HTC custom will let you change it to). The cab fix is attached to this post.
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That is an unbeleivably fast answer! Thanks a lot ... I'll try it now.
Cheers
bricking your device does void your warranty.
unbelievably fast because most of us read for a few hours before flashing... if you do not know what you're doing you can end up with a 600 dollar paperweight ...and wouldn't 8525 be damn cool paperweight!?
even if you flashed other devices (motherboards, dvd drives, ipod...etc.) but never a pda with a cooked rom, 2 hours spent reading would be a minimal amount of time before flashing ...all mattering on what you read, how fast, and how smart, including mastering the "search feature" ... its up to you to know what you want, how to do it, and not how to destroy your device.
...and isn't the fix for the 8525 keyboard fix on here about a gazillion times?
Closing Thread.
To allow it to depreciate instead of becoming a discussion on not reading or searching..
Question asked & answered
Hi'all !
I'm quite interested in the WM6.1 Rom, but I own a German TMo MDA Mail with a German keyboard layout...I wouldn't mind using the English ROM, just wanna know how to tweak it to the German layout...any idea?
Cheers,
vivid
Nobody? if its just sth in the registry, would somebody mind explaining it to me^^
WM6.1 running on german XDA cosmo
Hey,
I've got a german XDA cosmo (= Excalibur), running with the Kavana 080408 WM6.1-ROM.
I am using eT9 (link as found in Kavanas thread: http://movie.99msn.net/kavana/eT9 Full.cab) with the attached keyboard layout (copy to Program Files/eT9).
It's working fine. The only problem, is that the zero key doesn't work in numeric mode. But you can switch to alphabetical mode and type the zero there. I'm also not able to type a TAB, but who needs ;-) Probably it's not hard to fix, the kmap-file structure is very simple.
Good luck ..
... and to minimize the cultural shock you can set your locale to german in "settings" -> "regional settings". This affects time / number -format and currency. Feels a lot more like at home afterwards ;-)
The automatic "Connections Setup" in "Start Menu" -> "Accesoires" does also know the german operators. It has set up cellular data connections for me (works fine), but I haven't tested the MMS setup yet.
Cheers mate! So I just copy the eT9-cab with the kmap into the directory u have given there?
You install the cab, like you do with any other program (copy to the phone, and start it through the phone's file manager).
It installs to the directory I mentioned (the installer creates it). Afterwards you can copy the kmap-file there (overwrite the old). I'm quite sure it just worked afterwards, since I can't remember modifying the registry But you will probably need to reset the Telefon
I've got the keymapping from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2121806&highlight=german+kmap#post2121806
You can also do a search for "german" and "kmap" or "eT9" and "kmap "in the kavana thread.
Maybe you'll have to activate eT9 through Fn + Space in a text field.
Thx Probably was juz too lazy to scan 1700 posts in that thread... But thanks anyways! Another question concerning the 6.1 ROM: I wanted to update to rickywatt's edited ROM, but seem to get an error 270 anytime i try...any idea?
You're too lazy again .. the "search this thread" button does magic
Seems, that others had the problem, too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2154892&postcount=181
So you should make sure to have unlocked first .. (if so, I have no idea)
Haven't tried Ricky's ROM yet, maybe when the wheather gets worse
I'm afraid the ROM is full of blingbling, but slow as hell with little space .. Ricky's feature list scared me so maybe you could report, how you like it to clear my doubts
Well yea it is completely unlocked I am afraid...thats what i saw before already...
I actually dun have time in the moment myself, lots of exams going on but I always take myself time for my lil' excalibur
Does CAP key works with your kmap?
Well no..^^ it did for Kavana's ROM; but somehow for ricky's it doesnt. Quite odd actually.
Oh, and @fruchti, i got rick's OS working...if u overclock the OMAP you gonna be fine. Just disable all the panels u dun need: for me that was myfaves, internet etc...
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Well no..^^ it did for Kavana's ROM; but somehow for ricky's it doesnt. Quite odd actually.
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I was able to solve this issue for Ricky's build. I installed eT9Full.cab, restarted the device and selected German using Fn+Space.
Now it finds "für" "über" and so on. CAP works, too.
Please keep in mind that you have to reboot the device after installing cab. Without rebooting - german settings will not work.
Hope this solve your issue, too.
Really? Thats odd...i installed the et9full also...and the overwrote the old kmap with the edited one...i have the right keymap but CAP still does not work and he only finds "fur" and "uber" as an example, although the xT9 German is activated...
Maybe i should just re-install that completely...mh...
EDIT: Did u insert the new kmap as well?
Ohhh alright, no need for the kmap..thats the thing that seems to cause all the interferences But nice that it works now
After I restart my phone, the CAP error is on again and I have no idea why...the keyboard works apart from the bespoken CAP issue...it also doesnt find "uber" and so on anymore...that really sucks...
German T9 not integrated in Ricky's WM61 build
vivid22 said:
After I restart my phone, the CAP error is on again and I have no idea why...the keyboard works apart from the bespoken CAP issue...it also doesnt find "uber" and so on anymore...that really sucks...
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I confirm. Trouble comes back after rebooting the device. It's some kind of funny that german T9 is not inside this rom. Maybe the german guys don't cried loud enough in the past ;-).
Please link this to Ricky's ROM thread. Ricky is a freak and will be able to fix this with V2x. I'm sure.
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I confirm. Trouble comes back after rebooting the device. It's some kind of funny that german T9 is not inside this rom. Maybe the german guys don't cried loud enough in the past ;-).
Please link this to Ricky's ROM thread. Ricky is a freak and will be able to fix this with V2x. I'm sure.
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Yea well that should be cuz the ROM by Kavana isnt actually a WWE yet, and probably only a leaked one from somewhere So either we just wait and see till the official WM6.1 WWE comes out, or Ricky finds a fix for us...so far, we have 3 guys with the problem : RICKY PLEASE HELP US
Me too. The CAP key isn't working so I have to write only with small letters...
Wish a solution for this problem will be available soon. Writing a message without caps are classified as "unfriendly" for a lot of people in Germany.
i'm too
need it for some passwords and business mails
PLEASE fix it