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Please, please WM6 with working Blackberry Connect

I realize that BBC is very low on most people wish list here but until our company upgrades to Exchange 2007 later this year, I am forced to use the Blackberry Connect client if I am to carry my preciouse 8525 instead of a blackberry. I just got the BBC working on WM5 in 3G and am thrilled. However, having tasted the great WM6 Roms here, I must have it!
Does anyone have a good WM6 rom that the Blackberry Connect client actually works on without having to hack the OS? I'm fairly technical since I manage our IT facility and can reg edit, etc, but I don't feel too comfortable with the OS hacking I've seen in some threads to make the BBC client work. I am almost sure I'd brick my device.
If anyone could point me in the right direction I would be very grateful. Thanks for your time. - EH

BB Connect works fines for me.
First post, but have been reading the boards and enjoying the benefits for months.
I'm using the radio that was released with the Cingular 2.06 ROM, but it might work with others. I didn't have to do any OS tweaking. I just installed the Desktop Activesync program and the BB Connect for WM6 that came with WMXL v0.20 and everything worked. Of course, I called Cingular and had them change my data plan to the PDA Connect for BB Connect Unlimited.

So excuse my ignorance but I haven't been able to find this. You are using a radio version not included in the WMXL .20 rom? How do you keep your orignial rom? Oh, and thanks for the quick repoonse.

evilhomer said:
So excuse my ignorance but I haven't been able to find this. You are using a radio version not included in the WMXL .20 rom? How do you keep your orignial rom? Oh, and thanks for the quick repoonse.
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easy... you cook a Radio ONLY upgrade using Dutty's NBHTOOL1.0... you can find the thread by using the find function or reading the wiki...

WMXL v0.20 doesn't come with a radio upgrade. Using the Wiki, you can find the available radio upgrades, of which mine is one of them. Just flash the OS and the radio independently.

evilhomer said:
Does anyone have a good WM6 rom that the Blackberry Connect client actually works on without having to hack the OS? I'm fairly technical since I manage our IT facility and can reg edit, etc, but I don't feel too comfortable with the OS hacking I've seen in some threads to make the BBC client work. I am almost sure I'd brick my device.
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If you don't feel confortable I would say don't use any of these WM6 updates since NONE are official.
But if you want WM6.. Why not use WM XDA Live .20.
It's got the OS # changle already done to allow BBC..
(At least as far as I know.. I don't use it...)

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WMXL v0.20 doesn't come with a radio upgrade. Using the Wiki, you can find the available radio upgrades, of which mine is one of them. Just flash the OS and the radio independently.
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So let me see if I have have this correctly. I if I use the WMXL .20 rom, it will not change the radios? I will have the same radio verison after the upgrade or will need in reinstall the radios as well? Forgive my ignorace. I just want to make sure I have the right Cingular radio version to keep the Blackberry Connect going.

evilhomer said:
So let me see if I have have this correctly. I if I use the WMXL .20 rom, it will not change the radios? I will have the same radio verison after the upgrade or will need in reinstall the radios as well?
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only the OS will be changed. the rest u leave alone and will remain as was before an OS upgrade.

Depending on what you have now you probably want to upgrade the radio.
Not only will get better data connections as well as less problems.
But some WM6 things like the connection Icons require radio 1.27 or higher to work properly.

Ok. Thanks guys. I'll give that a go. The only concern I had was using a radio or OS version that locked out BBC. I have read the other users lost BBC connectivity after upgrading their OS to WM6. I would like to use the lastest radio versions for the improvment as long as they don't kill my BBC.
Thanks again for all of your responses.

BBC
try this maybe working for you

@EH
I am running WM6 v.21 and my radio, etc. is as in my sig. BBConnect was (briefly) an issue with WM6 on v.1, but since the update to .21 and the hacked BBConnect (also listed on the initial post) it works a treat.
Hope this helps - feel free to PM if you have any questions

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@EH
I am running WM6 v.21 and my radio, etc. is as in my sig. BBConnect was (briefly) an issue with WM6 on v.1, but since the update to .21 and the hacked BBConnect (also listed on the initial post) it works a treat.
Hope this helps - feel free to PM if you have any questions
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Thanks! Can you tell me what you mean by the "hacked BBConnect"?

@EH - sorry, I mean v.21 is hacked for BBConnect.
I run BBConnect client 2.1.2.31, but I also believe you can run .52 (someone correct me?). I had to dig around for .31 (.exe file, got it on local PC, so could email) but you can get .52 from the FTP on here.
Here's a link to a BBConnect thread that may help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294218

Ok. Cool. Could you email that to me? I am running .52 but it won't start. Also, I assume by v.21 you are using the WMXL v.21 or am I off on that? My email is [email protected]. Thanks again for your help.

I am also using BBConnect client v 2.1.2.31, works like a charm.

Well, I guess I'm beat. I have installed:
WXML v.20
Radio: 1.33.31.00
Rom Version: 3.22.110.1
Can't get it to work. :-(
Jakirkla: What version of BBConnect are you using?

Ok. I'm just freaking excited now! I did this reg edit that I found posted in another thread. It was in the LSVW build but I used it on the WMXL build and it worked. Not only that, but previously, my BBC would disconnect while I used the web, messaging, etc. And I had to wait awhile for the BBC to reconnect after the browsing was done. NOW, however, they are running simulatinously over the 3G network. The BBC icon stay completed connected and I receive mail WHILE web surfing. This was what I did.
Changed HKLM\System\Versions and edit the Aku string from .0.0.0 to .2.3.0
Restarted Hermes (holding power button)
Installed BBC 2.1.2.54
Install Blackberry Desktop 2.1.1.21 (for BES users)
Forgive me if this is old news but I haven't seen or heard of this working before. I'm so excited that I can seem to have BOTH services running now and on WM6. I'd like to thank everyone again for their reponses.

Hermes exclusive???
Hi man,
The ability to use both BB service and browse the internet is exclusive on the Hermes (because of HW capabilities) or can it be done in other PPCs?
I had never heard of such a thing until now!!! I am impressed...

evilhomer said:
Well, I guess I'm beat. I have installed:
WXML v.20
Radio: 1.33.31.00
Rom Version: 3.22.110.1
Can't get it to work. :-(
Jakirkla: What version of BBConnect are you using?
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HAve you looked in the extras section for WMXL?? There is a version of BBC in there, I dont use it so im not sure if it will work but that is the one most people are using in WMXL, as said before the CE build version in WMXL v0.2.x was modded to allow for BBC to work?!

Foxtel TV - WM6 (Telstra Australia)

Great work to all the chefs out there - love your work !
Just a quick comment on various WM6 ROMS. I had an Original Imate JasJam (HTC) with the original Telstra OS (WM5) loaded and was told when I got the device I wouldnt be able to watch the Foxtel service on it as it was pending a software update. Anyway a quick google search got me the Philips player which solved my problem within a day of owning the device.
Since then, I have experimented with various WM6 ROM's in Conjuction with CWW AUS Operators CAB have found that;
LVSW 8/4 - Foxtel Works Fine
Black 2.0 - No Foxtel
Dutty WM6 Premium - No Foxtel
Custel 1.1 - No Foxtel
I also tried last weeks Telstra native release and yes it worked fine, but again was WM5.
In all cases, I tried using the Telstra proxy (which is essential as that's how they identify you as a Telstra customer).
Keen to here from any other Telstra customers using Foxtel on WM6.
Thanks all for the great work !

No Problems on Black 2.0.
Just need to go Streaming Media options and set the Connect via to Telstra.Internet instead of Internet.
Then you can use it as the video player.

Update - Foxtel Mobile (Telstra Australia)
Tried Black 2.5 and changed from telstra.wap to telstra.internet with and without proxy - no success ...
Trying LVSW 22/4 and Dutty 22/4 next ...

jasjam_oz said:
Tried Black 2.5 and changed from telstra.wap to telstra.internet with and without proxy - no success ...
Trying LVSW 22/4 and Dutty 22/4 next ...
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my CWW Operators cabs are outdated... you need to download the new version here

walshieau said:
my CWW Operators cabs are outdated... you need to download the new version here
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Thats most likely it. I am using the Telstra V5.2 cab from the new extended rom

Blackbery on Black 2.5

Pls don't blast me for posting this. I have read the black 2.5 thread and could not find a working solution for BB. The chef have mention that someone is cooking to make it work as its a "ball breaker" to edit it. he he i remember this is the master chef for black 2.5 words.
My question is whether anybody have got it to work.

not yet,
working progress........ on HEX editing the OS.nb that is.
walshieau is also looking at another way to hack the bbconnect executables for them to work on wm6 without HEX editing the OS.nb
only time will tell.
sit tight.

jasjamming said:
not yet,
working progress........ on HEX editing the OS.nb that is.
walshieau is also looking at another way to hack the bbconnect executables for them to work on wm6 without HEX editing the OS.nb
only time will tell.
sit tight.
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up this thread in case someone else ask. still sitting tight.
thanks for the trouble n effort

Holding our breath
I wanted to thank all the chefs again for all the hard work, late hours, and answering questions on this forum.
For many of us still holding on to get the blackberry connect working on 2.5.
Anxiously waiting.
--Kia

Blackberry on Black 2.5
just a friendly bump to see if anyone currently has a working solution.
Thanks everyone for their work on this!

not yet... still working on it... might have found a solution... stay tunned

An alternative to the BB Connect could be the new BB Application suite
http://www.rim.com/news/press/2007/pr-23_04_2007-01.shtml
Apperently full BB functionality on WM6
Don't know when or how it will be released. Hopefully it will be available as a standalone package but even if it is packaged with operator's roms I expect it won't be long before it is extracted and packaged as a standalone app.

Taz69 said:
An alternative to the BB Connect could be the new BB Application suite
http://www.rim.com/news/press/2007/pr-23_04_2007-01.shtml
Apperently full BB functionality on WM6
Don't know when or how it will be released. Hopefully it will be available as a standalone package but even if it is packaged with operator's roms I expect it won't be long before it is extracted and packaged as a standalone app.
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not slated for release for at least 3 months... they have issues

Have you tried v4.0 of BB Connect for PPC?
I just installed it on my 838 Pro running Black 2.5 and it installs and seems to connect however I dont have a Blackberry sim card and i'm not sure if i have a license available for me on the BES server at my work (but i prefer Exchange push email anyway)
I posted about BB Connect 4.0 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304973
As was downloaded from the Dopod Website it could also be locked to Dopod devices but not sure.
EDIT: I just installed the ActiveSync BBConnect Desktop Software on Vista and it was able to tell my my account on the BES server isnt configured so looks like its working OK on my Black 2.5 device and Vista Laptop.

well this fantastic news if bbconnect works based on the new version.
now i can put my focus on black 3.0 as well the customization app entitled "PIMP MY BLACK" that will be part of Black 3.0

jasjamming said:
well this fantastic news if bbconnect works based on the new version.
now i can put my focus on black 3.0 as well the customization app entitled "PIMP MY BLACK" that will be part of Black 3.0
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JJ,
I can confirm that BBC v4.0 does work on Black 2.0, but it does not work on 2.5. I flashed Black 2.5 and had no success, but am currently running BBC v4.0 with Black 2.0, with no problems. Might I add that BBC v4.0 allows syncing Contacts, Calendar, Task and Notes with BES and you can now view picture attachments

BB Connect 4 on Black 2.5
Trying BBC 4.0 on Black 2.5.
However no luck connecting.
However I know sometimes you need help from IT with renewed activation.
So more tomorrow and fingers crossed.
Arnout
p.s. Installation allways work. Also with the older clients. Getting connected to RIM is often the issue.

BBC 4.0 working on Black 2.0
I got bbc 4.0 working on black 2.0. Seems to zip through 3G downloads. I like the bbc 4.0 ui but it enforces our IT policy regarding passwords which is awkward on hermes.

Blackberry on Black 2.5
kbehnia said:
I got bbc 4.0 working on black 2.0. Seems to zip through 3G downloads. I like the bbc 4.0 ui but it enforces our IT policy regarding passwords which is awkward on hermes.
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I agree, having the IT Policy automatic lock and password is very awkward and makes the 8525 very difficult to use. This was an unwelcome added feature.
Jasjamming, are you still planning on trying to fix blackberry with 2.5, or are you waiting for version 3.0.
Keep up the good work!

Was wondering is this release in relation to the application suite that RIM have indicated as i see a folder with BB Browser and BB IE browser which uses the data connection from BB toconnect to internet.
The password locking thing is neat but cumbersome. I'm still trying to figure out how to get the contacts over. I'm still using WM 5 as Black 2.5 as posted by other user doesnt seem to work.
Now trying to do the installation from a hard reset PPC and see how it goes.

I don't like the password thing at all....Looks like I may have to go back to previous bbconnect to get around it. Don't want to be typing the password everytime I want to check email....it was the reason to switch to 8525 and bbconnect from my blackberry in the first place.

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JJ,
I can confirm that BBC v4.0 does work on Black 2.0, but it does not work on 2.5. I flashed Black 2.5 and had no success, but am currently running BBC v4.0 with Black 2.0, with no problems. Might I add that BBC v4.0 allows syncing Contacts, Calendar, Task and Notes with BES and you can now view picture attachments
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I love this new version of BBC! You can also do Enterprise Activation as well.

arnoutboer said:
Trying BBC 4.0 on Black 2.5.
However no luck connecting.
However I know sometimes you need help from IT with renewed activation.
So more tomorrow and fingers crossed.
Arnout
p.s. Installation allways work. Also with the older clients. Getting connected to RIM is often the issue.
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Sorry.. Black 2.5 doesn't work. On black 2.0 it runs well.
JJ I would say focus on 3.0 for now and when its released focused on getting 3.0 to work with BB. Since its so close I think most of the BBC users can wait a bit longer on Black 2.0 and then move to Black 3.
Just my 2 cents,
Arnie

So besides the ability for our coporate Lotus Notes / BES admins to enforce policies, make me enter password every hour, shut my PPC down , enterprise activation, syncing contacts, tasks and notes and to view picture attachments what would be another appealing reason for me to upgrade from BBC 2.X ?
Have anyone tested BBC 4.0 on LVSW 0429 ROM yet ?
TIA
BBC Features comparison chart.

It did not work for me on the LVSW 0429 ROM, installed found server for about 5 secs said connected then dropped out.

How To run BBCONNECT 4 with WW6

Hi all
I would like to known the more simple and shure way to make BBconnect 4 up and running with WM6.
My TYTN running actualy the Schap's ROM version 3.57a.
please HELP ME.
HTC TYTN
ROM Schap's 3.57a
radio 1.48.00.00
Protocol 32.81.70.20.20W
CE OS 5.2.1437 (Build 17944.0.3.1)

Ask Schap nicely to hex edit his Rom so it works with BB Connect.......otherwise use Slueth's Rom which already works with BB Connect.
I've been quite happy using Slueth's Rom and have no complaints!

morpheus1700 said:
I would like to known the more simple and shure way to make BBconnect 4 up and running with WM6
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vp3G and Sleuth both have BBC version. I can post links for Schap and Black Satin tonight. But if you are comfortable with entry level hacking - it is a trivial job to make any ROM based on latest official ATT or Dopod releases to be compatible with BBC on Hermes. There was a lot of discussions and questions answered here on this subject last few days if you'll desire to know more and "Howto". Regards

Khristopher said:
Ask Schap nicely to hex edit his Rom so it works with BB Connect.......otherwise use Slueth's Rom which already works with BB Connect.
I've been quite happy using Slueth's Rom and have no complaints!
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Hi Khristopher
I too am trying to get Blackberry working reliably on my xda Trion. I'm running Custels WM6 2.5 ROM thats blackberry enabled, along with 2.x.x.54 blackberry client for the Trion and the 1.41 radio
Problem I have is that when I invoke flight mode and then switch radio back on, my blackberry app is off line and I cannot get it to reconnect without first disablling it, then doing a soft reset, then relaunching blackberry. It then repairs the settings and goes on to connect and its back up and running All a bit of a pain! I tried the 4.x.x. client, but it has the security feature set on the server such that after 10 mins inactive, it locks the screen and needs a password to unlock the device.
Are you having similar problems with the sleth ROM? If not, could you post the rest of your ROM/RADIO/BB Client config? If you are using the 4.x.x BB client, have you found a way of disabling the device lock?
Many thanks
Chris

cbrow51 said:
I'm running Custels WM6 2.5 ROM thats blackberry enabled, along with 2.x.x.54 blackberry client for the Trion and the 1.41 radio
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Custel ... that's I'd say 2-3 major updates step back. I haven't tested Custel's ROMs, but correct me if I'm wrong it is a LVSW or Black 3.01 derivative. Neither one had any issues with BBC re-connecting. As a matter of fact, from my personal experience, BBC will make *any* connection drop in a blink of an eye and will happily monopolize your data connection, making it almost impossible to have automated POP, RSS or Podcasts collections. I'd say your first step should be backup, hard reset and restore if you are keen to the existing ROM. Then I'd say you want to update to the latest distro and radio. Hope this helps.

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Custel ... that's I'd say 2-3 major updates step back. I haven't tested Custel's ROMs, but correct me if I'm wrong it is a LVSW or Black 3.01 derivative. Neither one had any issues with BBC re-connecting. As a matter of fact, from my personal experience, BBC will make *any* connection drop in a blink of an eye and will happily monopolize your data connection, making it almost impossible to have automated POP, RSS or Podcasts collections. I'd say your first step should be backup, hard reset and restore if you are keen to the existing ROM. Then I'd say you want to update to the latest distro and radio. Hope this helps.
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Hi Moisha
Many thanks for this, very helpful. I'm not wedded to the ROM by any means, so would happily change to a combo that kept a reliable connection. By 'the latest distro', do you mean one of the WM6 ROMs or release of the BB client? I see you are using the 1.48 radio.. What would be your recco for a BB compatible ROM and radio. Not sure I want to get into hex editing at the moment, so would like to use one one the 'off the (xdadevelopers) shelf' ROMs if poss...?
Thanks much in advance
Regards
Chris

Somebody pls help!!

Ive had my Touch HD for about 4 months now and its starting to loose its mind. The vibration only works sometimes for a few mins and then it stops, its gone really slow and freezes aswell. I am on the verge of selling it and gettin a Blackberry or the nokia e71. Is there anyone who can change my mind and help me with the problems? It would be greatly appreciated as the first few months i thought it was the best phone i ever had!

did you try to hard reset or flash a new rom ??

darkhalf520 said:
did you try to hard reset or flash a new rom ??
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I have done a hard reset and it didnt help. But I have not flashed the rom. I dont even know how to do it. Do you think that it will help?

Yes it will. Follow this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
OmZ said:
I have done a hard reset and it didnt help. But I have not flashed the rom. I dont even know how to do it. Do you think that it will help?
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metalbrother said:
Yes it will. Follow this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
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Will this fix the vibration problem as well because I dont really wanna spend alot of time changing the rom and then I either end up with a bricked device or still have the same issue. Just on the phone to orange now see if they can exchange my handset even though i have had it for 4 months now. wish me luck...

Orange is sending me a new handset tomorrow so hopefully that will fix the problem. They have advised me not to install any 3rd party software for a few days which should not be a big problem. But i was also told that if i experience any other problems on 2 more occasions that I would be able to change my handset for another model which is good customer service
Anyway now that i AM gettin a new touch hd, can anyone of the "senior" members of this forum give me their list of programs installed which have not caused the phone to slow down? I already know of fingerkeyboard, smschat (or smiley sms) and coreplayer. But I still am in need of a good gps software and the upgrade to TF3D v2 or v3 and a gd application to tilt the screen into landscape mode. Any help is much appreciated!

I have been using my HD for a while have not flashed any new ROM's but do have quite a list of 3rd party Windows Mobile software I use on it all working nicely.
Many of my applications are not freeware though, bought over the years as I'm a long time Windows Mobile user.
In my opinion you do not need to flash the ROM to still take advantage of your great HD
My applications include:
Pocket Informant
Resco Utility Pack
Softmaker Office Suite
SPB time
SPB Traveller
SPB Mobile Shell (plus the omnia SPB Skins skinning tool)
SPB Brain Evolution
SPB Finance
SPB Wallet
SPB weather
Pocket Investor
GarminXT GPS
MSS Converter
Phatnotes for MS Outlook
Skype
GSen
LockmeLite
SKTools
Sprite Backup
Finger Keyboard
Google Maps
HD Tweak
PocketMusic
Cheers
Ed

ednap said:
I have been using my HD for a while have not flashed any new ROM's but do have quite a list of 3rd party Windows Mobile software I use on it all working nicely.
Many of my applications are not freeware though, bought over the years as I'm a long time Windows Mobile user.
In my opinion you do not need to flash the ROM to still take advantage of your great HD
My applications include:
Pocket Informant
Resco Utility Pack
Softmaker Office Suite
SPB time
SPB Traveller
SPB Mobile Shell (plus the omnia SPB Skins skinning tool)
SPB Brain Evolution
SPB Finance
SPB Wallet
SPB weather
Pocket Investor
GarminXT GPS
MSS Converter
Phatnotes for MS Outlook
Skype
GSen
LockmeLite
SKTools
Sprite Backup
Finger Keyboard
Google Maps
HD Tweak
PocketMusic
Cheers
Ed
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thanks alot....could you tell which are freeware as this is my first WM device and also how to upgrade to TF3D v3? thank you.

OmZ said:
thanks alot....could you tell which are freeware as this is my first WM device and also how to upgrade to TF3D v3? thank you.
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Why don't you upgrade the stock firmware first to the new 1.56 and new 1.13 radio, supposed to fix a lot of issues and give better battery life / gps signal.

Is that the 1 from the HTC website? cos when i entered my serial number last time it said that the upgrade was not available for me so i assume that i already had the latest version...
EDIT: Dont you just love orange? I have just received my replacement and it is a generic handset. hehehe

Hello omz
To check your rom version start/settings/system/device information with the phone being 4 months old it will more than likely have version 1.14, the latest version 1.56 from htc.com is only available for sim free phones i.e. it was purchased with out a contract. As mentioned else where on this forum, providers like Orange etc will take a few months with there update if they bother at all. If they don’t your other option will be to either flash with a custom rom loads on this site or see if some one will send you there official rom. Software, video convertor http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474955 this is excellent, screen rotation I like this one http://idevelopstuff.com/dev/WM/Fuze...creen_inst.cab but there is also gyrator, satnav TomTom 7.915 works a treat on these phones. You might also be interested in this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505 hope this helps Jez