[UPDATED January 29] Which is the best WM6 ROM? Benchmarks of 52 ROMs + links - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Ladies and Gentlemen!
After an extended period of flashing I am pleased to present you with the result of my effort
I took 52 ROMs (all except for one based on the official releases) and run them through benchmarks in SPB Benchmark 1.6.
ROM listing with links to their threads:
Black Satin: Light, Medium, Normal
Schap's 3.30c Full
Schap's 3.57a: Lite, Full
vp3g's v3.0 Official
Sleuth's Developer ROM v3.1
Cacahuate's v2.0
Elise .12
Pandora v3.0 beta2
Dopod official release ROM
Dopod Lite ROM
Faria's Super Clean v1 (3rd update) ROM
Faria's HTC Hermes Customized v1
WM6 Samurai Final
Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 Full
Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 Lite
vp3G's WM6 v3.62.3 AT&T ROM
HyperCore Lite 3.62SE
Shamanix`s Grass v1.1
Starbase64 3.62/7 WWE Rom
TNT.1921 Series Professional
Pandora Rom Halo 3 Edition
Schap's WM6 Pro 4.01 Full
CUSTEL Im Back No PTT - 6MB Page Pool
Pandora Naked 2 ROM
S64 3.62/HTC WWE Rom
HCLite 3.62 Final
Austinsnyc's AT&T 3.62 Clean ROM
Schap's WM6 Pro Lite 4.20 ROM
K's Rom v1.21 and 1.30a Lite
Pandora Naked 5 ROM
Pandora Naked 6 ROM
BlackDragon WM6 ROM
Pays WM6 WWE v1.22 and 1.23 Big Storage ROMs
Schap's WM6 Pro 4.22 Full and Lite ROMs
Shamanix`s Grass v2.2
ROM v3.62.07.08 CHO HTC TyTN PDA VIET
mERCURY v2.1 Base AT&T 3.62
TNT.SE "Special Edition" Official and Professional ROMs
Telstra imate RUU_Hermes_DL_UK_3.62.305.5_6275_1.54.30.10_108 Official ROM
Pays WM6 WWE v1.30 Big Storage Lite ROM
K's Rom v1.31 Full
CRCs PHKv11 Release 3 Complete ROM
BlackDragon WM6 ROM Updated
Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 Full ROM
PDA Viet WM 6.1 19716.1.1.0 PV​
ROMs were tested on my HERM 100 (Orange M3100) with 1 GB Kingston MicroSD. Radio version is 1.54.30.0 and during the testing phone part of the device was off (flight mode). Device was attached to a charger. All ROMs were tested immediately after the flash. SPB benchmark was installed into the main memory. After that I soft resetted the device, and stopped all running programs using settings>>memory. All ROMs were tested with their original settings - i.e. no today plug-ins were disabled. Results are device specific - some tests use the MicroSD card - so if you do the tests your results will probably differ.
Findings:​
1) Cooked ROMs do make a difference: increased performance is obvious, additional tweaks and enhanced functionality of cooked ROMs make official ROMS quite useless.
2) Lite ROMs are more snappy and as they get more bloated their speed diminishes. Install only programs you need.
3) Black ROMs seem to be the fastest so far.
4) Faria is really a great cook (his ROM proved worthy it's almost legendary status )
5) There is more than just benchmark results that makes a ROM great. Read their respective threads about their advantages and disadvantages.
6) Cooked ROMs have made a noticeable progress since january. Older benchmark results can be found here and here. The performace and usability gain is quite impressive.
7) Older ROMs scored lower than the newer ones. Keeping your device updated is good for it's health
8) Actual differences between latest ROMs are quite small. Choose according to your taste.
9) Out of new (3.62.0-3) ROMs Schap's ROMs are outstanding. He is like a good (French) wine - gets better with age, The only ROMs with similar results were Black ROMs which are out of development now
10) Newest ROMs are very fast - including official one from Telstra - it seems that the video playback problem older official ROMs had is gone and official ROM now can compete with cooked ROMs in terms of speed
11) kin0kin has made a straight run for the elite cookers with his K's Rom v1.21. It is one of the fastest available.
12) Shamanix's Grass 2.2 is officially the second fastest ROM I have tested (R.I.P. Black ROMs)
13) New Pandora 6 Naked ROM also broke records in some categories...
Notes:
- I will not run tests on following ROMs:
- Sajakati's HypercoreLite froze while benchmarking (only HR solved the situation) and though I run less tests than usually it did not finish properly - benchmarking not recommended due to extreme instability while doing so) However new Black Dragon Sajakati's ROM was running very smoothly and I had absolutely no problems benchmarking it.
- Please note that benchmarking is a stress testing, so eveni if the benchmarking does not work on a ROM it does not mean it will brick your device someday.
- It seems that NETCF version has no impact on overall device performance (tested the ROM with either NETCF 2.0 or 3.5) compared to the ROM without NETCF or between the NETCF versions. That however might not be true for using programs that use these frameworks.
To do:
- Include more ROMs
- Include tabular comparison of ROMs features
- Include benchmarks from other programs
- Try to persuade mods to do this thread sticky....
- Any wishes, comments?
Updates:
29.01,2008 - Added PDA Viet's WM 6.1 ROM
02.01.2008 - Added 5 New ROM Benchmarks
22.12.2007 - Added K's Rom v1.30a Lite benchmark results
21.12.2007 - Added PaYs 1.23 ROM benchmark results
19.12.2007 - Added 13 New ROM benchmarks
07.12.2007 - Added 5 New ROM Benchmarks, added excellent ROM comparison and ranking by Niteline (kudos buddy!) in the zip package, FROZE THE PANES IN .XLS - REJOICE!
16.11.2007 - Added 2 New ROM Benchmarks - Shap's 4.01 Full and CUSTEL Im Back No PTT - 6MB Page Pool
10.11.2007 - Added 8 new ROM benchmarks, added RAM and ROM after flash stats, revived the thread
31.07.2007 - Added links to the ROM threads, added two ROM benchmarks, added results in xls (MS Office 2003) , xml and mht formats - everybody can format the results to his/her liking now.
31.07.2007 - Added Schap's 3.30c Full ROM benchmark
Thank yous:
All of the chefs that make this flashing fiesta possible...
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT
Please help me to make the benchmarks better. More info here.​

Performance tweaks that will improve responsiveness of your ROM no matter which you choose (Kudos Cyphol):
1. Improve performance/response time:
- Start > Settings > Phone => Keypad = Off
- Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications; Under Sound Tab => Disable/Untick Events (warings, system events) - this tweak will BRUTALLY increase the responsivenes of Start menu and Quick Menu 2.7 (because system will no more have to search for sound files in the ROM everytime you tap the screen)
2. Your Windows Mobile device is just like your Windows PC. So, soft reset it before going to sleep (or whenever appropriate) once a day to make it runs good at all time (because of the memory leak when you close the program not all the memory is restored - sof reset restores RAM lost due to Memory leak).
3. Make sure you install the today plugin apps such as Resco Today Plugin etc. on the internal/device memory. Some today plugin can be installed on the storage card but it'll slow down your system performance a bit.
4. Do not install too many apps on the internal/device memory. Leave as much free space as you can on it. Check whether it can be install on the storage card or not. Normally, don't let it become as low as 8MB free but 10MB is enough already.
5. Know what you're doing such as tampering your system registry. Make sure it can be done and you're doing it the right way. If not, then leave it as is.
6. Never hide the WirelessManager Tray Icon at the bottom.
Don't believe me?
Try it and feel the difference.
This is the key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr]
"Keep"=dword:00000000 ;<--- (dword:00000000 to hide and dword:00000001 to show)
7. Never let your device go to sleep by itself. Do it manually by pressing the power button everytime when you've finished using your device.
8. Make sure you shutdown the 'Activesync' completely after activesyncing your device with your PC. You can use task manager (X-Button), Magic Button etc or you can use memory applet in setting > System > memory; Running Programs

YES!!! Finally some solid numbers to depend upon for comparison! Btw, how long did it take you to do this frenzy of HR, flash, benchmark, HR flash, benchmark?

raymondu999 said:
YES!!! Finally some solid numbers to depend upon for comparison! Btw, how long did it take you to do this frenzy of HR, flash, benchmark, HR flash, benchmark?
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Including waiting on free slot on rapidshare it was cca one full day .

would a day of benchmarking suffice for conclusive results? although this would help would be FLASHERS to decide which ROM they can try first instead of starting another "WHICH IS THE BEST ROM" thread.

bapski said:
would a day of benchmarking suffice for conclusive results?
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The thing is, SpB Benchmark is a program, as in lines of code. Hence, these numbers might not mean much for stability, but for speed, these numbers tell no lies.

bapski said:
would a day of benchmarking suffice for conclusive results?
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As I have wrote before - benchmarks are just numbers. Actual experiences vary. Decisions about which ROM to use should not be solely based on benchmarks. Important factors are also support and or newer versions in the making, feel of the ROM (they do not look all the same) and for example bonus features also differ. Choose according to your needs.

great idea
some of the top scores were not in blue?? and ones that are tied should be in another color like yellow to show equality. i know you have spent lots of time on this and i don't mean to harp on you, so these are only suggestions.
thanks for the hard work!! this was a great idea. i will look forward to you adding new ROM's.

Farias super clean 3?
Guess I missed something. Where did you find Farias super clean 3 rom? I only can find super clean v1.
BTW: Great idea, I hope somebody will add this list to the wiki

Great work!!!
I've asked myself this question over and over again........... Hahaha but now I see these results I can only say to the COOKIES that they've done a GREAT job for all of us.
That is what matters, our guys even listen and they will sometimes ad some special flavors into a ROM. This development and research goes so fast I even wonder if the developers of HTC come here to see what is going on over here!
Keep up the good work!

Hi there - this really helps to decide which ROM one should take - but what is the cooked rom - I understood that I can no I have to choose whichsoftware I will install - and my understanding is that this takes even more time for the whole process - I liked it for example withe VP3 to simply follow the guide line in the forum and it was done ! Or is the installation provess with the cooked rom also simple ?

Cooked as opposed to straight from the manufacturer ("official").

This is one of the most usefull post's Ive seen in a long time, thanks for your hard work Oh and its crazy but "Faria's Super Clean 3 ROM" is still in the running after all this time! I think that says alot about Faria's work

Tests
Some small tests also here: http://www.ce4you.cz/forums/view_topic.asp?t=23151&fi=0 - this is our czech internal community testing.
About 30 latest ROMs.
In czech language, but main values are universal.

intereting and very useful. Whats more interesting is that I'm using the DOPOD rom as it seems to be the most stable for me. No BSOD or having to reboot all the time to get data connection working again.

gerald_s said:
Guess I missed something. Where did you find Farias super clean 3 rom? I only can find super clean v1.
BTW: Great idea, I hope somebody will add this list to the wiki
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Of course it is Faria's v1, number taken from package name (third update).
@ [email protected]
That is what benchmarks can not show. And stability really is important "feature". I personally have never had SOD with any of the ROMs.

Great Work!! Thank you for quantify this. I've been using Satin medium for over a week now, very stable & not a single lockup with this ROM so far. And it is good to know I'm using one of the fastest around. Thanks again.

Well done - this is excellent
Using this, with my thread here, anyone should be able to decide which ROM they are going to run on their phone, without relying on the eye-candy screenshots that don't really tell you anything
Kudos to you, dude
Smiffy.

i think such a test says nothing. all results are nearly the same, and 119 frames instead of 111, i ont think that i can see that BIG impovement.
mfg chief

Very usefull info thnx!

Related

So... Ready to upgrade ROM... BUT which one?

Hi guys,
Im ready to upgrade my ROM but looking and reading through the 3 different AKU 3.2 ROM threads I am even more confused than before...
Has anyone tried all three roms?
What are the advantages/disadvantages of each one?
Which has more programs?
Which is faster?
Which is more stable?
Just reading through the 10+ pages on each thread basically shows they all are "good" but still might have some bugs/problems. Is this really the case?
Any help and /or comments about the roms would be very helpful.
Cheers
Inquiry minds want to know
Good question.
Can the developers post the ROM's in different categories: Stable, Unstable, Incomplete, Testing only, etc.?
Anyone???.......
They are all pretty much the same, just based on different manufacturers ROMs.
Ivans is O2, JW's is T-Mobile I think and I haven't looked at Indras to be honest.
The only one I have used is Ivans. They all have slight glitches but that's all they are really. Nothing really that puts me off wanting to use them. In fact, from using these ROMs and speaking with Ivan I have learnt so much more about how to modify the Uni to how I want it too.
All in all there's nothing really in them, you've read the forums, just pick the one that is likely to have the fewest bugs you can live with if that makes sense.
Is there an easy link for the ROMs, I heard Ivan has done a beta 15 but don't seem to be able to find it???
beta 15
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Universal/Uni_AKU3_WWE/Ivan/
Review of the 3 AKU 3.2 ROMs available
1st: SPEED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All 3 AKU 3.2 ROMs namely: JWright's 1.90.96, Indra's 1.90.94 R2, and Ivan's 2.50.00 Beta 15 are all faster compared to official AKU 2 ROM releases by the different manufacturers.
As far as comparing all 3 AKU 3.2 ROMs with regards to speed, they are all the same in my opinion, unless someone had already benched marked each ROM. At first, I thought Indra's and Ivan's ROM were faster than JWright, but after going back to JWright's ROM, they are all the same as far as speed is concerned.
2nd: AESTHETIC VIEW --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Indra>Ivan>JWright... I like the new look of Indra's R2 ROM. Definitely nicer icons and splash screen than the official ones and the other 2 AKU 3.2 ROMs.
If you prefer the simple look and less applications installed or provided on the ROM, go for Ivan's ROM.
3rd: STABILITY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Indra>JWright>Ivan ... This is how I rank them in my opinion. I never had MEMORY LEAKS with Indra's ROM, but with JWright and Ivan's ROM, after a soft reset and leaving it for 12 hours it won't respond any more because the memory leak was so severe that you can't run any more applications unless you performed a soft reset. I also noticed with JWight's ROM, there are no memory leaks without anything installed, but after installing a few apps, that's when the leaks comes out. With Ivan's ROM, even after fresh from a hard reset with nothing installed, the memory leaks are there.
4th: MEMORY -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JWright>Indra>Ivan ... This is how I rank them. After upgrading here are the following memory available for us to use without anything installed:
JWright: 29.47 MB (with memory leaks)
Indra: 28. something MB
Ivan: 28. something MB (with memory leaks)
5th: APPLICATIONS PROVIDED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Indra>JWright>Ivan ... This is how I rank them. Indra based his ROM from JWright, so basically all applications on JWright's ROM can be found on Indra's ROM with the addition of a Task Manager, WM5 New Menu, etc... Ivan's ROM is very plain, but that does not mean it is not as good as the other 2. You can simply extract the files OFF of Indra's ROM and just add them to either JWright or Ivan's.
6th: INCREASING THE PAGEPOOL -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Indra>Ivan>JWright... This is how I rank them. To begin with their starting pagepool's were:
Indra: 4.8 MB
Ivan: 6.0 MB
JWright: 4.8 MB
After increasing the pagepool to 8.0 MB on all of them. There is a significant increase in speed with regards to Indra and Ivan's ROM. JWright's ROM on the otherhand had no significant increase in speed. I don't know why.
Hope this would help anyone to decide what they like. Good luck and thank you to JWright, Indra, and Ivan for the ROMs. I hope a new and better versions are on the way.
Features
Ok, how about this: Can we have a single page listing features side-by-side? Both the implemented ones and those which are under development? That way everyone can come up with suggestions, wish-lists, etc.
For example, the Bluetooth stack from Microsoft is quite limited; no PAN, Obex by arcane methods, etc. Does any of Ivan, Indra or JWright build use any other?
I have the official ROM from IMate. The memory leak is horrible. I have to soft-reset every 24 hours.
Not to mention annoying delays: I open the phone and it takes 10-20 seconds for the today to unfreeze and the phone interface to open.
Hi Christian,
Thank you very much for your review - that is exactly the type of review I was after - Based on what you say I think Indra's ROM sounds the best for me so far - I might just go back and read Indra's thread again to see if any of the bug's will effect me more than the others....
Cheers mate.
I have only used two, jwright and ivan's (Beta 12 I think).
i felt ivan's was more reliable, stable. In terms of memory and speed, I think they are equal.
They are the same core, its just some of the extra apps and tweaks. Personally, i would prefer more registry hacks and tweaks to have been done, and less apps being installed. These apps can be extracted and installed to suit each persons requirements, rather than being imposed.
So my vote out of 10 goes 8.5 to Ivan, and 8.0 to jwright.
Mind you, I dont really hardcore the device. I have a few aps installed, but dont use them. I could in principle get away with the basic device without apps, cause its firstly my diary and time manager, then it is my contacts manager, then my messaging device (love push email), then i use it as a phone. I dont use games, i dont use stereo blue tooth (simple one for phone), and I only use it for about 1-2 phone calls per day, so it really doesnt get as hammered as many of the devices on here.
HATE, WITH A PASSION V2.0 OR LIKE, SLOW, PATHETIC AND USELESS. SO CONGRATULATIONS AND DUE RESPECT TO BOTH OF THE DEVELOPERS AND THEIR HARD WORK AND COMMITMENT TO REVIVING A VERY EXPENSIVE DEVICE THE MANUFACTURERS GAVE UP ON.
cktlcmd said:
1st: SPEED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All 3 AKU 3.2 ROMs namely: JWright's 1.90.96, Indra's 1.90.94 R2, and Ivan's 2.50.00 Beta 15 are all faster compared to official AKU 2 ROM releases by the different manufacturers.
As far as comparing all 3 AKU 3.2 ROMs with regards to speed, they are all the same in my opinion, unless someone had already benched marked each ROM. At first, I thought Indra's and Ivan's ROM were faster than JWright, but after going back to JWright's ROM, they are all the same as far as speed is concerned.
2nd: AESTHETIC VIEW --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Indra>Ivan>JWright... I like the new look of Indra's R2 ROM. Definitely nicer icons and splash screen than the official ones and the other 2 AKU 3.2 ROMs.
If you prefer the simple look and less applications installed or provided on the ROM, go for Ivan's ROM.
3rd: STABILITY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Indra>JWright>Ivan ... This is how I rank them in my opinion. I never had MEMORY LEAKS with Indra's ROM, but with JWright and Ivan's ROM, after a soft reset and leaving it for 12 hours it won't respond any more because the memory leak was so severe that you can't run any more applications unless you performed a soft reset. I also noticed with JWight's ROM, there are no memory leaks without anything installed, but after installing a few apps, that's when the leaks comes out. With Ivan's ROM, even after fresh from a hard reset with nothing installed, the memory leaks are there.
4th: MEMORY -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JWright>Indra>Ivan ... This is how I rank them. After upgrading here are the following memory available for us to use without anything installed:
JWright: 29.47 MB (with memory leaks)
Indra: 28. something MB
Ivan: 28. something MB (with memory leaks)
5th: APPLICATIONS PROVIDED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Indra>JWright>Ivan ... This is how I rank them. Indra based his ROM from JWright, so basically all applications on JWright's ROM can be found on Indra's ROM with the addition of a Task Manager, WM5 New Menu, etc... Ivan's ROM is very plain, but that does not mean it is not as good as the other 2. You can simply extract the files OFF of Indra's ROM and just add them to either JWright or Ivan's.
6th: INCREASING THE PAGEPOOL -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Indra>Ivan>JWright... This is how I rank them. To begin with their starting pagepool's were:
Indra: 4.8 MB
Ivan: 6.0 MB
JWright: 4.8 MB
After increasing the pagepool to 8.0 MB on all of them. There is a significant increase in speed with regards to Indra and Ivan's ROM. JWright's ROM on the otherhand had no significant increase in speed. I don't know why.
Hope this would help anyone to decide what they like. Good luck and thank you to JWright, Indra, and Ivan for the ROMs. I hope a new and better versions are on the way.
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I haven't tried Ivan's, but I quote u fully on Indra's and JWright
I have use almost all of ivans ROM's. I think the V13 was for me most stable one.
2 days Ago I flash the irda 5r2 ROM. compare my previos experience with Ivan's ROm's I think the Irda 5R2 is currently the best ROM.
SBP Plus
BTW, does anyone know why SBP Plus makes the Today (and the rest of the device) hang when restarting from standby if the Today plugin is enabled?
Does SBP+ work on the other ROMs?
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BTW, does anyone know why SBP Plus makes the Today (and the rest of the device) hang when restarting from standby if the Today plugin is enabled?
Does SBP+ work on the other ROMs?
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Have you install spb in your SD CARD?
My feeling is by R2 the reading speed from the SD card slower then by other ROM's. One more think you can try is: un-able and able few times the SPB from the Today screen. it has help me.
Yes, on the SD
Yes. SBO like all other apps is installed on the SD card. With memory leakage being what it is, I don't install to main RAM. Even so, available RAM goes down to 2MB in about 48 hours after which I have to soft-reset.
Shall try re-installing into main memory
Yes, I would suggest to install it in to main memory. it has help me atleast
cheers.

Different WM6.1 Rom releases

There are several releases out there of WM6.1 all of them claiming that they are NON BETA.
BUILD 19199.0.7.0
Pays ROM Lite & Full - WM6.1 WWE with Big Storage - 11-02-2008
RanDomIze WM6.1 BigSto. - 11-02-2008
BUILD 19199.1.0.0
CRCs PHK v12 Release 7 - 14-02-2008
Faria / Dr Puttingham WM6.1 Collaboration rom - 13-02-2008
BUILD 19521.1.1.0
Hermes ShadoW 2.0 CE - 05-02-2008
Hermes ShadoW 2.0 TE - 05-02-2008
BUILD 19716.1.1.0
Schap's WM6.1 Pro 4.40 Beta ROM - 31-01-2008
Why so different build number? Stability issues in the higher number builds?
And just for curiosity... does anyone know what the hell are those number after the build number, for example 19199.x.x.x ?
Win 6.1 random freeze on multiple ROMS
Hi
I have been trying to install a stable rom to my hermes but i couldn't find one yet ;
i have tried Pays ,Shadows (TE &CE) and some clean edition but still i get stuck in some cases ;
if i have HTC home plugin installed my device freezez quickly ; and also it freezes mostly after waking device.
I have read the forum and as my unprofessional conclusion it is somehow releated with WM 6.1 builds . Does anyone have experience with this ?
PS:i have upgraded my radio and tried to install official rom before ins. anything.
thanx
bartan
I am a ROM freak
I've tried some of the listed ROM's.
I was hooked on vp3G's 3.62 ROM for a while.
I was then hooked on TNT 2.0 --> TNT SE (Stable but still didn't have the cool look)
I then tried K's ROM (very nice looking but buggy) --> I currently have the K's FINAL Full (6mbpp) (very nice looking but stable)
This has been the most stable and responsive and over all satisfactory of ROM's i've tried so far.
As far as Radio i'm still trying to figure that out. I've switched between 1.40 to 1.54 and not i'm currently on 1.48 (i believe this was the radio used with vp3G's Rom)
Good luck w/ your search.
nice thread, i was kinda of thinking on the same lines i need to know what those numbers mean also.
They are all beta ROMS, install at your own risk. But stability wise some of them might be better than others. Good luck!
I mentioned a lot of times in my 3.00 rom thread that the main software is beta. But the development of my work is final.
ucramos said:
And just for curiosity... does anyone know what the hell are those number after the build number, for example 19199.x.x.x ?
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Under WM5 this used to be the AKU see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptation_kit_upgrade
I guess it's still the same for WM6 and WM6.1
I tried the latest Roms from Pay and Faria.
With both i had several hard-resets in the last days.
Which 6.1 Roms are you using?
i use N Pandora 9b1 (it is windows 6.1) and it is fast and stable , no hard resets
edward
I also have been using N Pandora 9b1 for a couple of weeks now and it's been very fast and stable. I have always used Pandora's ROM's and I think they are the best.
Activesync
I synchronized emails, task, contacts... with all WM6.1 Rom, successfully.
shadow te - very fast and stable with lots of apps installed
faria dr. putt... also very fast and stable
p.s. wm6.0 - best rom, K's (can't wait for 6.1 edition)
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I mentioned a lot of times in my 3.00 rom thread that the main software is beta. But the development of my work is final.
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+1 for Pays . I'm not a power user (no data plan), so I want some basic functionality, only very useful apps included, and lots of stability/reliability. So far Pays ROM is my pick!
As Microsoft doesn't seem to want to mention that WM 6.1 even exists, maybe it is a pile of crap, and they can't get it stable enough for general release? There must be some reason why they didn't even talk about it at MWC 2008.
Could be that they haven't finished comparing all the ROMs on XDA-Devs to find which one they want to use!?
I have tried a few of these new ROMs. Randomize seemed good, but it ended up freezing at second boot screen and would not do anything. Also, no bluetooth explorer.. Now onto CRCs PHK v12 Release 6. All good so far - fast, stable, reliable. Easily connects to wifi, activesync, bluetooth everything. Have a few apps running ok. Not interested in HTC Home, so have Samsung clock instead. Have no complaints except that Solitaire is missing! Have compensated by installing a Gameboy emulator with heaps of games...
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+1 for Pays . I'm not a power user (no data plan), so I want some basic functionality, only very useful apps included, and lots of stability/reliability. So far Pays ROM is my pick!
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that's what I second. After using Schaps for several months...and before Jas' black varieties..
Well I"ve always Stuck with the Notion that if it Doesn't Say FINAL on the Rom Release update... It's Still in Beta and the Dev is Still Working the Lil bugs out and Tweaking Still also Schaps Rom says "Schap's WM6.1 Pro 4.40 Beta ROM - 31-01-2008" lol Pretty much self Explanatory lol But most of These 6.1 Roms Will be in Beta .... Look for the Final then you know it's Sweet
This is something I've been trying to figure out myself.
I see numbers like CE OS 5.2.1620 (build 19521.1.1.0) and CS OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0).
From what I can tell, CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 5.2.191999 is the RTM build, but I've yet to find anything that lists an official RTM version number from microsoft.

Extended Rom Problems after installing Wm6.1 and going back to 6.0

After 3 terrible days dealing with diferent wm6.1 roms from here, I go back to my the old and stable K's Wm6 Final.
My experience with Wm6.1 has been completly awfull. HR, screen frezzes, white screens on load, no GSM, App crashes .... Even installing previously a official WWE rom.
I know that there are people working with 6.1 without problems but in my opinion, if somebody need a sure and confiable hermes phone better to stay away from 6.1.
Regards
Pd.: Wm6.1 Roms Installed: last from PDACorner, last from PDAViet, MRH 5.7, and NiaX ESP (All same problems)
jfrm said:
After 3 terrible days dealing with diferent wm6.1 roms from here, I go back to my the old and stable K's Wm6 Final.
My experience with Wm6.1 has been completly awfull. HR, screen frezzes, white screens on load, no GSM, App crashes .... Even installing previously a official WWE rom.
I know that there are people working with 6.1 without problems but in my opinion, if somebody need a sure and confiable hermes phone better to stay away from 6.1.
Regards
Pd.: Wm6.1 Roms Installed: last from PDACorner, last from PDAViet, MRH 5.7, and NiaX ESP (All same problems)
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Mmmm strange. I use the CRCs V11 since it is available and waiting for the next Shaps french one. Even if my hermes is "french", all applications are working fine (TomTom, a lot of GPS apps, Basic4PPC, astronomy softwares, PocketCM, Tcpmp, etc...). Even video calls are working fine. Battery consumption is fair (no push mail) with 1.47.00.10 radio rom. Till now i did not miss a call and speed is good (obviously, more you add apps, slower is your pda)
Btw, i always "flash" roms using sdcard method. IMO, it is the only reliable way (no possible usb deconnexion, so easy, PC independent,...)
Give a try to CRC's V11. Who knows? You could find your way through 6.1
Hope this helps
Wm6.1 problem
I agree with you. So far try out so many ROM with WM6.1. Encounter all sort of problems like hang when making calls, network not found, auto hard reset. But only Pays WWE 3.00 Final Full this ROM I never face all this problems at all. Perhaps you might want to give a try on Pays ROM 3.00. Cheers!
i'm using crc v11 till now and never experiencing any problem like that.
Did those roms, pays and crc, have Extended rom or are Big Storage?
jfrm said:
Did those roms, pays and crc, have Extended rom or are Big Storage?
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CRC V11 stores elements in extended rom (as far as i know). If i can suggest something: As you experienced problems with 6.1, just start first with a rom which seems stable. As a test, it is not so important to be Big Storage or not
I have been using MRH 5.5 for several weeks now with out a single freeze. Works great.
CRC12.1
definitely no problems. Unless you want to run microsoft's live search. The only thing that doesn't go and i haven't had a chance to tweak with s2u2 yet
its just ur device... plus u gotta no which one is best for u..
Cloudyfa 's Shadow_TE 2.1 WM6.1 is a stable ROM.
i had use it for about 4 months
Don't know. It could be a personal problem...
I went back to my well known K's Rom and the problems was still there. Now I'm sure that it is related to extended rom, that from time to time and without reason get automatically erased.
I have flash a well know oficial At&T Rom, as adviced by one of the best cookers here, then install again K's Rom final, and the problem disapeared for two days, but it is here again...
Does somebody know If I can flash just a oficial Extended Rom (instead of the full oficial AT&T Rom) or format the extended Storage with some program (pocket mechanic or some other like it)?. I'm a little tired of repeating the configuration proccess...
Thanks
I have flashed again the official At&t rom, as adviced by Dr. Puthingan, and then the K's Final Rom to nothing.
The problem still there.
When I was installing an App to the Extended_Rom the intallation hangs, and after reset all the contens of Extended Rom have dissapeared.
I found only a FilesToBeDeleted folder winth garbage inside (look at screenshoot)
Hey,
I was in the same situation as you were in a couple of months ago...
I've always wanted to tinker around with WM6.1 but I too also found the Ext.Rom to be unstable...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2228473&postcount=703
I always found myself flashing back to the reliable Shamanix Ultimate 2.0 Final.
Finally, I tried this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406111
And, It's been surprisingly stable and no Ext.ROM to deal with.
Again, before installation, you'll have to follow Dr. P's instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1990320&postcount=6
Hope this helps
jfrm said:
I have flashed again the official At&t rom, as adviced by Dr. Puthingan, and then the K's Final Rom to nothing.
The problem still there.
When I was installing an App to the Extended_Rom the intallation hangs, and after reset all the contens of Extended Rom have dissapeared.
I found only a FilesToBeDeleted folder winth garbage inside (look at screenshoot)
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You might want to try the official dopod rom then back whichever 6.1 you want. I found mine was better after doing that.
Hopefully the problems is solved....
I reinstall the At&T, as adviced by Dr. Puttinghan, hard-spl 7, and then the Faria/Dr. Puttinghan Clean Rom.
Now, all is working without issues..

[1/15][WWE][Gen.Y 5.2 based]Titanium + Sense 2.1 + W6.5 B21872 stockalike ROM

After a long time using my Diamond, i've used many roms but i just want to use the one which get closest to the stock HTC's ROM. I don't like eyes-hypnotizing roms. There're many roms matched my style but they're not perfect.Satus's one have some slow animation with manila clock and weather and RAM-eating (maybe it's based on the old kitchen or sth).DonSalari is very fast, i think it's the fastest 6.5 rom i've ever used but it's tweaked too heavily so many occasionally used stuff like audio booster is not included.Yozgatz's 6.5 is stopped.
So i found Gen.Y kitchen (big thanks to master Yoz!) , i have experienced many times on my diamond to create a new 6.5 rom that meet my style and Yoz's idea "brings Diamond 2 experience to the old Diamond" and "closest to the stock rom as possible"
This rom is based on the new Gen.Y 5.2 kitchen with some changes like
Code:
-New Opera 10 beta 2 for WM
- BSB ramsweeper 2 for fast and effective cleaning
- BSB setting (if you hate to use the advance config...
- Leo's EXT
- Sense 2.1 and bugs fixed as announced by master Yoz, and i disabled the animation weather for fastest perfomance
- Windows Phone startup animations
- Qilin Phone Canvas support video/conference calls
- XT9 my words
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- Some more that i dont remember
This rom i made for daily use, there will be lots of unused stuff so there isn't much room for other program
The program memory free after flash is about 67% used with sense 2.1 enabled
The storage memory free after flash is about 70mb
I made this rom for my own, but i will appriciate every replies to make this rom better
The link and the snap shot will be uploaded in minutes
plz do MTTY or flash a stock HTC rom before flashing this for best usage
Great~! new chef~
When will you release the ROM? Willing to try~
Me too like roms closest to the stock as possible
waiting.....
looking forward to this - but all the 6.5 roms i've tried - kill the speed on my phone. i don't like titanium, and either sense or manila kills the diamond
Where is the Link ?
The first post :"the link and the snap shot will be uploaded in minutes" , want to try this first wm6.5 rom with sense 2.1
Usemyass said:
The first post :"the link and the snap shot will be uploaded in minutes" , want to try this first wm6.5 rom with sense 2.1
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maybe it was a typo. he could have meant "within a month."
Your Roms are excellent. We are looking forward for this one!!!

Just bought a Touch Pro 2 and some rom questions...

Hi,
I jumped from an Xda IIi -> E-Ten G500 -> 2x P3300's (lcd broken inside) -> HD Touch Pro2
Nice phone, hope it will serve for 10 years or more :-D
Some questions : i'm new in the TouchPro2 section, i would like to ask you all :
1> What's the fastest rom at the moment?
2> What's the best looking ?
3> What's the fastest & best looking combination (medium rom, not lite nor full)
4> Is rom flashing easier than with the P3300 (is there "nouspl" stuff needed? or problems with 64bit versions, had to flash on my friends 32bit pc)
5> I just flashed the latest radio and worked directly! Did not need anything like nouspl
Cause I heard the 6.5 rom is way slower on this device than previous 6.1.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Innovator
Best rom is stock 6.5
Honestly ive been flashing roms for about four months without finding 1 perfect yet they all have flass the best i found is Energyrom Pheonix2 the best looking is Energyrom Leo however I have had issues with dropped calls, landscape mode not working, and freezing. Not to mention every time he revises his rom you need to re-flash and sut your phone up all over again so i decided it was too much of a hassle and i went with the new tmo stock rom and i turned off that htc sense crap and and i just tricked out my ms titanium screen
IN_FA_MI said:
Honestly ive been flashing roms for about four months without finding 1 perfect yet they all have flass the best i found is Energyrom Pheonix2 the best looking is Energyrom Leo however I have had issues with dropped calls, landscape mode not working, and freezing. Not to mention every time he revises his rom you need to re-flash and sut your phone up all over again so i decided it was too much of a hassle and i went with the new tmo stock rom and i turned off that htc sense crap and and i just tricked out my ms titanium screen
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I agree. NRG's roms are quite fast, especially the latest one, but i had been having issues with his others i moved to a stock eu rom, which i liked because of the general stability. Now i'm using Timor v0.9 and i like it. Stock look and feel but generally fast, with stock stability. All in all it depends on what you want. Pretty much just flash away and see.
Generally, threads about which ROM is best are locked, because there are too many ROMs and everyone has different preferences. I, for example, like EnergyROM Leo 21885, but someone else might like the Cell Pro series or the Valkyrie series of ROMs. It's really personal preference, and the best thing you can do is flash all of them and decide what you like best. It may seem daunting, but it's the only real way, though it helps to look at people's signatures where they often post their ROM.
As for your other questions, I've never owned a P3300, but flashing a ROM on the Rhodium is very easy. First, you put HardSPL on your device, which is a modified bootloader which doesn't enforce signature checking on ROMs, allowing you to flash a custom ROM. Then, there are a few ways you can flash, using your SD card or your PC with CustomRUU (64 bit does work, I can confirm). You can find the full instructions on how to flash a ROM and install HardSPL here.
My Faves
Here is a list of my personal favorites that I have tried and would recommend to any one who wants to flash.
WM6.5 Josh's PerfectBlack 1.7-FINAL!, Sense 2.1
This ones light and fast. and stable I must say. Three versions to this. I prefer the LIGHT.
WM6.5.5 AthineOS 23518, Sense 2.5
I have to agree this really is the fastest and smoothest when it comes to Sense 2.5
Jackos Hybrid ROM (V4) WM6.1 21048 + Sense 2.1
I am currently latched on to Jackos Hybrid. Works pretty much the same way as any WM 6.5 ROM with Sense, well at least for me. Meets all my requirements and I have to say it is the fastest with the most amount of free memory with Sense.
Not a very big fan of Energy ROMS as they tend to use up a lot of memory, but are smooth and fast too.
Finally the choice is up to you.
Cheers.
Innovator said:
Hi,
1> What's the fastest rom at the moment?
2> What's the best looking ?
3> What's the fastest & best looking combination (medium rom, not lite nor full)
4> Is rom flashing easier than with the P3300 (is there "nouspl" stuff needed? or problems with 64bit versions, had to flash on my friends 32bit pc)
5> I just flashed the latest radio and worked directly! Did not need anything like nouspl
Innovator
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OMG! This thread hasn't been closed yet???
Fastest ROM- strike 1
Best looking- strike 2
Best combination- strike 3
and then two more questions for icing.
Wow.

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