Hi Chefs,
I want to cook a BigStorage/Light Edition of the new O2 Germany Rom. What should i do?
My my first thoughts: I extract the os.nb of the exe file, load it in the Rom Koch...OK, now, it's getting difficult...I want to remove for example Feedback, ringtones, example pics and vids, old office, games, windows live, homezone plugin etc. I don't know, which files i have to delete. Is there a list, which files belong to which programms?
Can i brick my phone, if i delete a wrong file?
Is it dangerous to flash my hermes with a selfcoocked rom (BADBLOCKS)?
Is that the right way to create a big storage rom?
What shouldnt i forget?
thnx
PS: pleas don't flame me...
Pello
Nobody can me help a little?
pello said:
Nobody can me help a little?
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if you have HardSPL as the bootloader before you flash and are just flashing OS only upgrades you should be ok...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
jepp...ok, thats nice, so i can try without bricking my hermes.
can i just delete the files without changing user/default registry/flashinitfiles?
Is there a documentation for which files belong to which app, for example WindowsLive?
Windows live stuff is normally in directories called "WindowsLive*" inside the SYS folder.
Just play about, it's a fun way to learn and with HardSPL you shouldn't brick your device (for example I messed up a splash screen creation by not adding the padding required for the hermes. Looked horrible, didn't boot, but put it into three color bootloader screen and was able to flash a fixed version easily).
sorry I didn't reply in the other thread.
the software is somewhat modular - in that if you remove all of the Windows Live folders or Entertainment folders, you should remove all of that component.
Under /SYS/SQM is a .rgu file. The first entry is "Enabled"=dword:00000001. Change that to 00000000 to disable feedback.
Note that some kitchens uses an options.xml to allow BuildOS to determine what gets installed. The one for the files in /SYS uses a single one in /SYS.
I'd suggest grabbing a kitchen and following the directions. If you got HardSPL installed, and are careful, you should do well.
I "bricked" my phone twice in the first hour I started because I tried flashing a Wizard formated extended rom to the Hermes... gotta learn somehow
thnx mattk...
can i use the bepes rom kitchen or pandoras rom kitchen only with the included WM6Rom or can i swap the OEM,SYS Folders and the os.nb with the included?
What should i do with the XIP Folder?
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Hey everyone,
I have some problems while I am playing with my OS.nb.
I know how to flash the phone, extract and pack the NBH. However, I am looking a way to modify/add/delete the softwares/components inside the OS.nb. I know how to add or remove a file in the OS.nb, I just cant find a way to add a software in it. (I know how to add a file, but what i mean is a "software", which is a group of files, and some registries depending on each other, how do u get all those information from a cab/exe?)
Search for the "Pandora Kitchen" or the "Core Kitchen for hermes", these will allow you do (with a little work on your part) what you need. Look specifically at the "CAB to OEM", and remember to create an initflashfiles.txt that says where each file goes.
Core kitchen is probably better if you want to do some serious cooking, whereas pandora has everything there already to include or exclude.
One word of warning though, Core Kitchen does have a couple of bugs. The only show-stopper I've found is the splash screen generator panel doesn't add the padding required for a hermes device. Not a big problem if you have HardSPL, but it will cause your first flash to hang if you use it!
If you want to replace your splash screens (by including them at the end RUU_Signed.nbh stage in Dutty's tool) then use the guide on mrvanx's site (google mrvanx).
Good luck, and remember to read the forum posts and wiki extensively, this stuff isn't easy for a reason (you are rebuilding an entire operating system).
Hi. I've read hundreds of posts and followed dozens of tutorials. I'm aiming to gain an understanding of what actually happens during the rom cooking process and I think I'm getting there. I've used loads of different toolkits and kitchens and most recently I've been using 'romdonalds' which has given me a better understanding.
However I'm a bit confused about the difference between the dump directory with loads of files and folders, and the OEM/SYS versions of these which I've seen when using packagetool and buildos. I know how to go from the 'flat' structure to the oem/sys structure, but I don't know how to go back again.
I'd also like is to know what really happens behind the scenes when you click the go button in buildos.exe.
TIA
Matt
I could really use a little help to understand what's going on here. If there's some clear explanation of what actually happens during cooking that I've missed, could someone point it out to me please? I've searched thoroughly, read extensively, and pulled my hair painfully... but I just don't get it. I've analysed batch files in just about every kitchen there is but I've reached a point where I need some help.
If there's some unwritten quid-pro-quo requirement that I've missed before I can ask a question then tell me that too - I'm no freeloader, I've just donated to Slither2006 for his cube, and when I've fully grokked the process I'll write up everything I've learned in a really clear guide, I promise.
I'm not an idiot either - I was a technical architect at a large UK ISP until recently, doing stuff like building a huge virtualised server farm with custom management tools and a homebrewed iSCSI /LVM2 snapshot system that blows away anything commercially available, and now I work for myself... I've used HTC devices since the Blue Angel, also an Exec and now a hermes... but I could really use a hand here.
Thanks!
I suspect you are quite a bit ahead of me here, but here goes.
The OEM/Sys folders are just part of the Dump folder, but extracted and turned into a more logically arranged order for manipulation.
When you run buildos it just takes these and a few other bits such as the XIP section and puts it back in a format for rebuilding.
Best I can do I am afraid.
Thanks for your reply crazyc. It's getting a little clearer now. Can anyone else shed any light? Ideally I'd like to know exactly what buildos does to turn the organised folders back into the dumped ones.
Piecing it all together:
A: I know how to get the dump folder from a source rom (nbhextract->nbsplit->imgfsfromnb->imgfstodump).
B: I know how to make changes to the dump directory manually (add/delete files; extract/convert .hv files to .rgu; edit .rgu files and reconvert to .hv; edit initflashfiles.dat to create shortcuts on first boot)
C: I know that instead of all that I could convert the dump directory to the organised oem/sys pair (pkgtool) and know that in theory I could manage that with BuildOS.exe to integrate oem packages with the option.xml file in them - but I don't understand what's happening here relative to (B) above
D: I can turn the dumped folder (but not the oem/sys folder) back into a flashable rom (imgfsfromdump->imgfstonb->nbhtool)
Can someone who really understands what's going on explain where I'm confused?
Thanks
Matt
Here is my take about cooking....
When the dumped OS has all the rgu files in tact then spliting the dump folder as OEM and SYS will work.
Where as some OS do not have rgu file in them (some cooks prefer to cook this way...all OEM OS have rgu files). In this case you would have to use only the dump folder and edit default and user.hv to add and delete stuff. You cannot use package tool for this method.
You sure can turn OEM and SYS back to ROM, just use the right kitchen (Pandora, Bepe Kitchen, etc)
Hope this helps.
First of all I'm sorry for my english, hope you can understand me...
I'm going to cook my first ROM...
The idea is to make 2 versions (with/without manila) of a clean "uc capable" rom; what I want to do is take a 1.93 official base and update some oem app and sys (i.e. htc camera and netcf) and remove some others to replace theese with 3t part usefully app (i.e. putting in wktask manager instead htc task).
Now my doubts:
(I've readed a lot of wikies and thread but didn't find a CLEAR answer to all my questions)
1- If I use an official .exe rom as base I obiouvsly find inside it the radio part...have to remove this befor but in base folder due i don't need it for my work? How?
2- I'm able to remove oem pack from my rom base and I'm also able to repack new ones starting from a cab file...but I don't know if it's possible to take (exactly as they are) some oem pack from a stock/custom(when not protected) rom to use in mine...I saw that a lot of cookers use oem pack taken from raphael official roms to update thair roms and I would know if the process to do this is just open the rom, copy the oem and past it in mine... In this case...where can I find a good very update raphael rom?!
3- Opposite than this, for manila I would use the "animated switches" version. I want to downgrade it to the version with theese animations but I don't know if there's a particular process to replace this oem...can you tell me? PS: what is the exact manila version I need to do it?
4- TO UPDATE NETCF TO THE 3.5 VERSION WHAT HAVE I EXACTLY DO? And is the Alexandre's oem pack good for my pourpose?
Thank you a lot and sorry if (maybe) some questions were answered in other threads...I searched and readed a lot but there are too many informations in this forum for a noob/bad english speaker/... like me so I decided to ask!
GriFolle said:
First of all I'm sorry for my english, hope you can understand me...
I'm going to cook my first ROM...
The idea is to make 2 versions (with/without manila) of a clean "uc capable" rom; what I want to do is take a 1.93 official base and update some oem app and sys (i.e. htc camera and netcf) and remove some others to replace theese with 3t part usefully app (i.e. putting in wktask manager instead htc task).
Now my doubts:
(I've readed a lot of wikies and thread but didn't find a CLEAR answer to all my questions)
1- If I use an official .exe rom as base I obiouvsly find inside it the radio part...have to remove this befor but in base folder due i don't need it for my work? How?
2- I'm able to remove oem pack from my rom base and I'm also able to repack new ones starting from a cab file...but I don't know if it's possible to take (exactly as they are) some oem pack from a stock/custom(when not protected) rom to use in mine...I saw that a lot of cookers use oem pack taken from raphael official roms to update thair roms and I would know if the process to do this is just open the rom, copy the oem and past it in mine... In this case...where can I find a good very update raphael rom?!
3- Opposite than this, for manila I would use the "animated switches" version. I want to downgrade it to the version with theese animations but I don't know if there's a particular process to replace this oem...can you tell me? PS: what is the exact manila version I need to do it?
4- TO UPDATE NETCF TO THE 3.5 VERSION WHAT HAVE I EXACTLY DO? And is the Alexandre's oem pack good for my pourpose?
Thank you a lot and sorry if (maybe) some questions were answered in other threads...I searched and readed a lot but there are too many informations in this forum for a noob/bad english speaker/... like me so I decided to ask!
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1. When dumping a ROM, it will dump separately the splashes, radio, os and extrom (if any.) Extract the exe with WinRAR and dump the nbh.
2. When dumping a ROM, it will create packages if ROM is unprotected. A good place of finding a Raph ROM would be the Raphael forums.
3. Delete the old package from kitchen and replace with new one (in your case, the old one, animated).
4. You can find ready made NetCF 3.5 packages. You should delete the old NetCF 2 from SYS folder and replace it with the 3.5
tnyynt said:
1. When dumping a ROM, it will dump separately the splashes, radio, os and extrom (if any.) Extract the exe with WinRAR and dump the nbh.
2. When dumping a ROM, it will create packages if ROM is unprotected. A good place of finding a Raph ROM would be the Raphael forums.
3. Delete the old package from kitchen and replace with new one (in your case, the old one, animated).
4. You can find ready made NetCF 3.5 packages. You should delete the old NetCF 2 from SYS folder and replace it with the 3.5
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Thanks a lot!
So, to replace OEM, just put out (from a rom) and put in (in mine)...so simple?!
Ahahah...
Please, excuse me for my stupidity...BUT I REALLY NEED AN HELP!!!
(I'm following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782&highlight=kitchen)
Here's what I do:
1) I've downloaded from htc site the last official stock rom (localized for my country) \HTC Touch Diamond\QMR\RUU_Diamond_HTC_ITA_1.93.408.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
2) I've extracted all files and putted them into Base ROM folder of surface kitchen.
3) clicked on begin and obtained some folders in the kitchwen one
Now if I go into one package folders in OEM (htc gesture in example) i can't see dsm or rgu files, but just dll and .provxml ones...WHY?! I don't think it's good, right? Where is my fault?!
SO SAD...
PS: I've searched a lot but I've not found a netcf prepared package to cook...
Thanks a lot!
GriFolle said:
Please, excuse me for my stupidity...BUT I REALLY NEED AN HELP!!!
(I'm following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782&highlight=kitchen)
Here's what I do:
1) I've downloaded from htc site the last official stock rom (localized for my country) \HTC Touch Diamond\QMR\RUU_Diamond_HTC_ITA_1.93.408.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
2) I've extracted all files and putted them into Base ROM folder of surface kitchen.
3) clicked on begin and obtained some folders in the kitchwen one
Now if I go into one package folders in OEM (htc gesture in example) i can't see dsm or rgu files, but just dll and .provxml ones...WHY?! I don't think it's good, right? Where is my fault?!
SO SAD...
PS: I've searched a lot but I've not found a netcf prepared package to cook...
Thanks a lot!
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You have to create the packages!
Don't know the kitchen but it should be like this in every kitchen.
Also, you can check inside provxml file (notepad will do), maybe the rgu (registry entries) are set through provisioning.
tnyynt said:
You have to create the packages!
Don't know the kitchen but it should be like this in every kitchen.
Also, you can check inside provxml file (notepad will do), maybe the rgu (registry entries) are set through provisioning.
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confused...
I think I have to create just the packages of apps I would to add...not even all the apps contained in the stock rom!
Looking and reading tutorials in this forum I understood that If I would (i.e.) add/rmv apps to my rom I've just to put its files in base rom and then (after extract all) add/remove what I want. Then rebuild.
But for all others teorically I don't do anything...Is this wrong?
PS: thank you for the previous reply
Hi, everyone! I´m still working on a Wizard (don´t want to touch my Hermes, yet). I´m pretty advanced... but
I dump the [latest] original cingular WM5. I rebuilt it with office 2007 and realize that the original shortcuts are still there. Of course, they are both useless (as I have new names for the apps) and annoying (because I can´t remove them before compiling).
This is the whole point: Those shortcuts are not coming from neither an xml update for the XIP nor an initflashfiles.txt
HOW ON EARTH DO I REMOVE THEM. I can´t find what is creating and copying those shortcuts
Are they embedded in the OS.nb file? If so, how do I take that file apart?
Any help is very much appreciated!
..provxml, m8..
Nope, had checked already
*.mopvxml, etc had been checked.
But... what did you mean by m8?.
BTW: I will check inside os.nb now, but please give me fresh ideas
You may also want to check for a file called initflashfiles.dat. That contains a lot of shortcut information as well. Especially for apps that are default for that particular ROM. It should be found in the OEM\OEM_LANG_* folder in the kitchen. The (*) is the locale number. For example, a WWE ROM would have the folder as OEM_LANG_0409.
Yep, solved (initflashfiles.dat)
Hey, thanks! You´re FAST!
I was about to post it. But thanks, you could have saved me hours
Anyways. If anyone ever reads this thread, remember: scavenging os.nb(a) isn´t that great. An automated kitchen does it all (Hypercore in this case).
I also found somebody claiming that certain shortcut came from a dll. Just keep as a sidenote.
Cheers!
Hi here i release an OLD style kitchen based on Bepes tools
I have taken bepe's kitchen and created some batch files to make it a one click extract and one click build and flash
I was so used to the old style kitchens and when they stoped working (failing at xip extract) i was looking for something that worked that i could use easly.
I found bepes kitchen, and it was nearly the same so i ported the batch files from diamond kitchen 0.4 to make this.
this kitchen uses the new style packages but has the look and feel of the diamond kitchen 0.4
I am still looking for the package creater that makes these NEW style packages but can't seem to find it now so if anyone has it please drop me a link so i can include it in the kitchen tools
download link ---->
http://rapidshare.com/files/217781904/Kitchen.rar
Instructions
1 place you RUU_Signed.nbh in the baserom folder
2 click on !Begin
3 Dont touch anything until extraction is finished (approx 5-10minutes)
4 Modify your packages
5 click on !Cook
6 wait until the htc rom tool loads
7 select diamond in device, os.new.nb as the source OS and save as kitchen/RUU_Signed.nbh
8 close htc rom tool and Custom RUU flash tool will load
9 flash and enjoy
......
will this kitchen group the OEM and SYS files properly. im having difficulty in using the new format or everything's in SYS\MSXIPKernel folder.
Is the Rom dump protected after cooking?
DefJamz said:
will this kitchen group the OEM and SYS files properly. im having difficulty in using the new format or everything's in SYS\MSXIPKernel folder.
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this dumps the rom into the OEM, SYS and ROM Folders if you want the EXT folder download Bepe's tool below OEM2EXT
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Is the Rom dump protected after cooking?
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not had time yet to try and test if i can rebuild a cooked rom, will have a go tonight and post my findings.
This is Bepe's Kitchen automated by batch files so he is the best person to talk to about protection
sorry to be a little blunt but i am a noob when it comes to cooking that why i found something that worked for me and made it a little easyer to use,
Protected Rom? Almost Rom when rebuilding, it will delete all dsm file, so you can't use package tool.
ok i have now tried the flashing, and the cooked roms won't pass the splash screen page, not getting the device info in bottom right corner.
anybody there who uses bepe's kitchen mind having a look for me.
also i can't open a re-cooked rom
garymeg said:
ok i have now tried the flashing, and the cooked roms won't pass the splash screen page, not getting the device info in bottom right corner.
anybody there who uses bepe's kitchen mind having a look for me.
also i can't open a re-cooked rom
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I had the same problem and it was a XIP "mess-up". however I can't help you more than this.
try asking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3575850&postcount=131
i simply do NOT understand why build a tool that deletes stuffs that are important for cooking. isnt rom cooking supposed to be an open project for ALL? i mean some chef have the donate button in their sigs. but their rom's locked. it isnt fair to those (like myself) trying to learn how to cook a rom. i mean, i try to compare official roms and custom roms insides. what are the difference. it's by comparing that people learn to differenciate. and i would say BAHHH to missing rgu and dsm files!!
My thoughts exactly... Alas...
it is ironic, that NONE of the chefs who lock roms/doesn't supply kitchen/ask for donation wrote the code themselves. In short - everybody operates on stolen/leaked or any other way obtained code.
Ok, there are authors who created tools. And those guys have full right (and reason) to ask for donations fro that - TOOLS.
Otherwise - it's just funny. it's like stealing a car, and then asking police to protect it....
no panic.
at normaly old style kitchens never delete dsm'S.
and if you delete manualy dsm'S, you get all files in folder.
i think, with protect rom it means, no recookable roms.
it stops at point 1 or in the first step by using BEGIN! with a message like
"rom is smaller/bigger than/at starts" or so. excuise me, i've forgot the exactly words.
for checking of recookable rom i checked it with "htcRIE_0.5.0.12.exe".
it shows you all files with oem/sys - folders. but the oem can be empty. you find the oem-files than in sys-folder.
these points are my thinks that i see/learned by beginning flashing and cooking until now. other people can see/learn other thinks so dont dismiss me, if you are not my oppinien - but you can dismiss my english
Htc rom tool
Is it possible to use this for the Fuze?
EDIT: I found HTC tools with support for more phones on this thread a couple posts down