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is anybody workin on this,, the boys over at aximsite say that one is coming soon, can anybody else make one better??!
Could you answer one question please:
How can someone make something that is better than something that does not exist yet?
Side note: although it has information that is useful for everybody, this site focuses mainly on devices produced by HTC so it is unlikely that an AXIM ROM will be cooked here specially before aximsite.
P.S. Noticed your post regarding the iPhone stuff got no attention. Its not to relevant but FYI the zoom can not be implemented on the WM devices. The iPhone touch screen is built differently to allow it to read pressure from two different points (maybe more) at the same time. The standard touch screen can only register one press at a time so if you are holding one finger on the screen the other finger will go unnoticed.
ok I was wrong, exuse my ignorance, I 100% agree with u on that.,, and also still do u think oothe fast finger scroll will work out? I seen a guy demonstrate this on his pocket pc,,youtube keeps removing the video,, sorry I'm sooo stupid
There is a cooked WM 5.0 AKU 3.3 for the Axim x51v it was being discussed at aximsite but the administrators took it down. The guy working on it is "Football4PDA".
He is also working on a WM 6 rom for the Axim.
You'll probably have to google it.
I'd google yet still wait for him to produce the final, I hear there are a couple of primary functions still out of sync.
ala Wi-Fi, CF, etc. just to name a few.
Hopefully it'll be as effective as the RoMs I hear about coming from here.
I always envy this forum and the handhelds it supports with modded versions of WM6
The very latest rom from Football works fine, turns the Axim into a speed machine. No issues with CF, SD, WiFi or Bluetooth, works as intended
I don't think I'll switch yet obviously because I'll wait for a stable version, but, in the end, will it be worth switching? What are the main advantages of WM6?
Native SIP, that's my main concern and the only real main difference i see ^^
and office and html-mail
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I don't think I'll switch yet obviously because I'll wait for a stable version, but, in the end, will it be worth switching? What are the main advantages of WM6?
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seems stable enough to me, im well happy with LVSW ROM
wm6 is faster, trust me it worth it
I'm using the LVSW ROM here and everything is working good here too. It's not a big change like WM2003SE -> WM5.. but there are some nice changes in WM6. I find it as stable as WM5 for a normal user like myself. By not upgrading you are cutting yourself out from the "Trinity Mobile 6" forum in xda-developers... which should be reason enough to upgrade alone...
I'll offer some ridiculous opinion.
It is worth upgrading to WM6 once you have already upgraded to WM6.
But truthfully, there isnt that much extra in WM6. So it's not especially worth upgrading until you have upgraded... at which point you have nothing to lose.
I suppose it won't do any harm, if it is faster, I would be interested...but in what way? Is that just in running apps and stuff? Also, what's the user memory available?
Well, I found it worth switching to mUn's version, its faster, I have office 2007, better wifi, not any major change, but yeah, its worth it!
Most of those switching at present are doing it 'because they can'
We want to have the most up to date devices, and we love fiddling and sometimes faffing, sometimes f***ing!
If your PPC use is mission critical, don't even consider it until RTM versions are available. Both current WM6 versions are works in progress, fantastic though they both are.
Each has strengths/weaknesses and these forums are invaluable in shaking those down; hopefully before too long we will have fully functional versions we can recommend to everyone.
Once mun_rus fixes the ActiveSync problems, we will be much closer to a fully configured WM6 build which is fast and reliable, and there is no doubt at all the LVSW won't be far behind.
Hopefully their sterling efforts will shame HTC into providing a 'factory' ROM for those who don't like the risks involved in unofficial ROMs, but I suspect that these 2 will remain ahead of the game in providing faster, more memory efficient,customised versions.
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Most of those switching at present are doing it 'because they can'
We want to have the most up to date devices, and we love fiddling and sometimes faffing, sometimes f***ing!
If your PPC use is mission critical, don't even consider it until RTM versions are available. Both current WM6 versions are works in progress, fantastic though they both are.
Each has strengths/weaknesses and these forums are invaluable in shaking those down; hopefully before too long we will have fully functional versions we can recommend to everyone.
Once mun_rus fixes the ActiveSync problems, we will be much closer to a fully configured WM6 build which is fast and reliable, and there is no doubt at all the LVSW won't be far behind.
Hopefully their sterling efforts will shame HTC into providing a 'factory' ROM for those who don't like the risks involved in unofficial ROMs, but I suspect that these 2 will remain ahead of the game in providing faster, more memory efficient,customised versions.
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Excellent round up of most users' opinion here I guess I'm using LVSW's version now, no huge changes and stuff, but the extra speed and cool new looks are enough for me , and of course if it's there, why not try it
you guys present compelling reasons to check out the WM6 ROMS, however, i have a couple of concerns/questions: does GPS & TomTom 6 work and internet connection sharing work with the upgraded ROM? what about the Office 2007 apps included with WM6 are they working? i just began reading the threads so forgive me if these questions have been answered already. thx for the replies...
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you guys present compelling reasons to check out the WM6 ROMS, however, i have a couple of concerns/questions: does GPS & TomTom 6 work and internet connection sharing work with the upgraded ROM? what about the Office 2007 apps included with WM6 are they working? i just began reading the threads so forgive me if these questions have been answered already. thx for the replies...
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Everything you mention works. Not sure about the internet sharing tho, can someone tell if that works?
Internet sharing works perfectly well
Will the same software still work? Along with backups?
I follow you , My problem is that i got too much soft on my wm5, and it'll take me too much time to reinstall all this. So can we backup from wm5 and restore to wm6 ? ( is there some changes in the registry architecture ? )
thanks for your answer.
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I follow you , My problem is that i got too much soft on my wm5, and it'll take me too much time to reinstall all this. So can we backup from wm5 and restore to wm6 ? ( is there some changes in the registry architecture ? )
thanks for your answer.
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I ain't no ROM-chef, but to my knowledge the registry is very much the same on both OS'. However: i must stress that it is very unwise to restore backups that were made on a different ROM image (that's even the case for same OS ROM's, like WM5 aku 2 >to> WM5 aku 3 for instance).
For best performance without any quirks, you should best always rebuild the device (and hey; WM6 probably makes you require less third-party apps )
The only problem i see for now is that video call and VOIP don't work well on those WM6 roms, everything else is fine and nice but it kinda takes away the benefits of upgrading to WM6. I'm going back to WM5 after a week of testing but I admire the work of those fantastic devs !
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I ain't no ROM-chef, but to my knowledge the registry is very much the same on both OS'. However: i must stress that it is very unwise to restore backups that were made on a different ROM image (that's even the case for same OS ROM's, like WM5 aku 2 >to> WM5 aku 3 for instance).
For best performance without any quirks, you should best always rebuild the device (and hey; WM6 probably makes you require less third-party apps )
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But with all those same apps work on WM6?
Has anyone tried Spb GPRS monitor on it?
I need this program cuz i run my laptop's internet through it.
So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I DO want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
*EDIT* I do want WM6.. it was a typo sorry for the confusion */EDIT*
My suggestion is to try them and stick with the one that most support your needs.
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So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I dont want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
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You say you don't want WM6, so then none of the mentioned ROMS will meet your needs as they are all WM6. This is the WM6 forum. Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306 for discussions about the latest WM5 ROMS.
You say you dont WM6....
but you want a good Remote Desktop client and Good bluetooth support....
both reside in WM6 and not in WM5
As i edited in my post i made a typo i do want WM6. Sorry for any confusion again.
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As i edited in my post i made a typo i do want WM6. Sorry for any confusion again.
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I agree with arluckett2002, try some out.
I personally recommend the Elf, because he cooks with the ExtROM, leaving you the ability to remove unwanted apps and is built on LVSW core (very stable). It is sort of a combination between a clean fast & sleek rom, with the added benefits of some apps. But, you can remove them if you want.
Most of the rom's are good now, it is a matter of trial & error and style preference.
There is no way you get everything you want in a rom (unless you cook your own). Get the closes one (or a basic one and add the programs you need). In my experience with a Hermes phone, LVSW is the most stable. ELF which uses LVSW is almost as good as LVSW.
I update programs as they become available.
UllSang said:
So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I DO want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
*EDIT* I do want WM6.. it was a typo sorry for the confusion */EDIT*
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SL said:
There is no way you get everything you want in a rom (unless you cook your own). Get the closes one (or a basic one and add the programs you need). In my experience with a Hermes phone, LVSW is the most stable. ELF which uses LVSW is almost as good as LVSW.
I update programs as they become available.
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I always had this question... If a program is installed while the ROM is being upgraded (it is part of and packaged with the rom), and a new version of the application is available, can we upgrade the application without losing precious storage/program memory? Or will the upgrade disable the "read only" older version and install the new version as if it is a new application?
Good Question!!!
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I always had this question... If a program is installed while the ROM is being upgraded (it is part of and packaged with the rom), and a new version of the application is available, can we upgrade the application without losing precious storage/program memory? Or will the upgrade disable the "read only" older version and install the new version as if it is a new application?
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My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
is VP3G's version relatively stable?
pvs said:
My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
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So, based on your answer, the best rom currently available (at least in relation to memory) should be the Elf, since he installs all programs in ExtROM using CAB files, which can be uninstalled / overwritten etc, without taking up twice the amount of memory in case of a program update. Agree?
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So, based on your answer, the best rom currently available (at least in relation to memory) should be the Elf, since he installs all programs in ExtROM using CAB files, which can be uninstalled / overwritten etc, without taking up twice the amount of memory in case of a program update. Agree?
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No, not neccesarily. There are several very clean ROMs to choose from, as well, where you can simply add what you want, period. And several only have some limited apps built in, that provide some extra functionality, and will probably not be upgraded, or you can live with the versions that are already installed. The question is best answered by each user and his/her subjective needs and desires.
On top of that, you must think about the quality of support that the cook is willing/able to provide. If you are a newbie, you would probably do best to steer away from the Elf and Black versions, since their authors are somewhat lacking in patience, although I must admit, they are extremely talented with the technology.
You really need to measure it all out from several different angles, and in the long run, only you can decide which is best for you.
-pvs
VP3G v2 rom
I have been running VP3G's v2 hybrid rom for about a week. only issues i had after flashing was i needed the cingular settings cab file to configure everything that i didn't want to manually add myself. i'm still looking for the smart dialer cab that i found on here awhile back but other than that it's got everything you need, it's stable, and very fast. tomtom 6 works great with it as does any of my bluetooth devices. exchange direct push works well though i find that sometimes the phone doesn't sync cahnges back to the exchange server. so far it's the best rom i've tried for wm6. oh yah.. i'm running an ATT 8525 on ATT's network.
Damn talking about bring the thread back to life, haha. I am actually currently running VP3G v2.0.1H also. VP3G has the cingular settings build in, did that not work for you? it worked great for me. It works perfect for all my BT devices and i have no had any issues with the exchange DP. so definitely my favorite rom so far.
pvs said:
My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
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It will overwrite the current file, it won't take up more space.
Maybe I'm getting to old for this but seriously how many times a month does this question need to be asked and answered?????
i must be having a bad day.
Hi all! This is my first time posting in here as I'm just now getting one of the "new" T-mobile Dash phones. I've been reading the different threads, especially the ROM threads, trying to figure out which is the most stable/usable.
I know my way around PDAs pretty well, having had an IPAQ 1945 and then a Dell Axim x30 (the 624 MHz processor one), which I still love and have with me constantly. But this new Dash will be my first smartphone and my first entry into the WinMo 6+ world.
I'm interested in hearing which ROMs you guys like and what are some of the good and bad with them. I've read the version changes and all of that, but there's nothing like reviews from the guys that use the software/hardware every day. Basically what I'm looking for in a ROM is:
1) WinMo 6.1
2) Updated radios for bluetooth and wi-fi (might as well have the hardware at its best if you've paid for it, right?)
3) SDHC compatibility (Anyone know what the largest size memory card is that the Dash (Excalibur) can read and fully utilize? I've heard 16 is the max.)
4) Stability. If the phone isn't constantly crashing, it'd be great. haha
So to all you Excalibur users: What ROM do you recommend and why?
Thanks all for your time and I'm glad to be joining the Excalibur community!!!
~Walter
Your best bet is to flash them all and see the ROM you like as best ROM there is none, it's down to personal preference, won't take more than 30 mins to get base set, with regards to SDHC all WM6.1 support 16GB "taken from other threadz" as i only have tryed 8GB.
Hope that helps.
i had used the 6.1 final from kavana, and flashed to the rose Rom by Ricky and Stylez last night. so far, i like the Rose rom the best. but like said, its all personal preference as to which is the best. and like Stylez sad, 16gb is what people say will work. i havent even tried anything over a 2gb yet lol
I tried the various 6.1 roms from this site and from my experiance with them, IMHO I think the Kavana 080408 WWE is the most stable and less laggy over the Rose 1.7 rom.
But I have to agree its all about personal opinion and what features you are looking for. Your just gonna have to try them out for yourself and decide wich one you like the most.
MY favorite improvement is that I can now use my 4gig SD over the 2gig I had to use with inMo 6, I was so dissapointed about that.
Thank you guys for the response. I'll start with the suggested ROMs and then work my way around to others.
I just got off the phone with t-mobile, my Dash should get here either tomorrow or Friday. I'm going to spend the whole weekend flashing ROMs and loading all my favorite software onto it! haha
Okay, a related question: I've been looking into Java games for the phone since it seems most of the ROMs on here have Jbed or Esmertec Java loaded on them. The games list phones they're meant to run on, but I know on my old Sony Ericsson phone I could run Java games that weren't meant for that device, but were compatible.
So are there any phones "like" the Excalibur that I should keep in mind when doing my Java game buying? (Like will games that work on the Blackjack II most likely work on my new Excalibur?)
Thanks again!
Help please!
I thought I will use this thread since I am new to the Dash too.
I just got a couple of easy questions. I tried to look here and even on Google, but I either suck at searching or the answers I am looking for are not there.
I read the wiki on how to flash and I read that: If necessary, unlock your phone using either the SDA Application Unlock program or Surreal Networks' AppUnlock or both. This will enable third-party software installation. Not performing this step properly is the primary reason why Error 270 happens.
So, either or? The reason I ask is because I would do both just to be safe, but SDA unzips fine but Surreal does not. When I unzip it, it copies the files that are in the zip in the folder I chose to unzip them into. Do I have to do both? And if so whats wrong and how do I fix this. Same thing happens for other supposed CAB files I downloaded. They just copy themselves but don't "change" into one cab file to be installed. Same happens with tegic.
romupdateutility.exe... where do I find it and what is it? I saw all the videos possible about flashing Kavana's and even Jamerican doesn't use this.
Is it true that if I update to Kavana I will not be able to use MMS and the Internet or are those an older update problems? The new 6.1 works flawlessly correct? (I saw a thread on how to fix the sms, mms, and web problem) Where can I find an original uncooked WinMo 6.1 update?
It doesn't seem hard to flash, but I am a newbie to this smart phones WinMo stuff. My Dash, I got it yesterday and I already run low in memory. I closed all the apps and I still only have 7.212 Kb of memory! That sucks! I hope WM 6.1 is better because WM 6.0 is not good.
Captain Totti,
Please read the sticky "guide to flashing"
With re: to surreal check our RoseRom remade first post there is a guide to flash click the if stuck @ 3%, as both files & what to do there..
Re: MMS either connection setup or input of settings manually will work.
stylez.
Capitan Totti you will not be dissapointed in 6.1. Imagine your drowning in a pool and someone finally decides to pull you out of the water and you finally get to breathe, thats what going to 6.1 feels like! IMO WinMo 6 is complete garbage and 6.1 should be the standard for every phone out there thats running 6.
Flashing is very simple as long as you read the directions. Good luck!
Oh I have been reading a lot alright! Yes, it does not seem hard, but I just wanted to make sure I don't brick the phone.
Double post.
I screwed it up the first few times (from not reading the directions first) and still came out ok.
I found some good threads and done a lot of reading, but I guess no one had this problem so far but me. As I said above, I got the tegicet9 files and also the fullet9 files... (I am Italian so I would like to have both Italian and english on the phone) but when I unzip them into a folder I called New Folder for all my unzipping... they just copy themselves and don't change into one icon like say the SDA unlock or the USPL thing I got makes itself as more than one folder... ?? Thanks.
Was wondering if I should also call T-Mobile to SIM Unlock the phone, you know so I can use the Dash with any SIM. I am gonna have to do it anyway for when I go to Italy but I was wondering if NOT sim unlocking the Dash and then upgrading will cause issues on the phone. ???
So far it seems easy.
Connect Dash, run SDA unlock from desktop, once its done unzip (if you have not before) SurrealNetAppUnlock (which is another file that does not unzip for some reason), place it in My Documents (I don't have a memory card yet), go to Dash itself, go to File Explorer and install it from Dash itself. Once done turn off Dash.... turn it back on connected to ActiveSync, run USPL.Bat (Mine says USPL.Batch but I take it its the same), click enter on keyboard and ok on dash when prompt to, after a bit it will go black then white (bootloader mode), open RUU.Kavana and follow the steps (if I pass 3% I know I am good)... now I got a question... When the upgrading is complete 100% and you can click finish... I know it does a cold reboot, do I have to (ever? I've seen videos and all but this part is not clear also sound wise on say YouTube) unplug the usb cable or no?I know that for et9 I got to just place it and install it on the Dash but like I said, it does not unzip insto an installable file. If someone can read this and answer my few questions and help, I will be done hacking this baby in less than 30 minutes. Thanks
Hello all. I am going to pick up an Omnia from a friend of mine in exchange for my current phone. This is not my first experience with winmo but I have not had any in-dept time with it either. I am going to need someone to help me out, as I am not familiar with all the basic things that one needs to do in order to get the final product I am looking for.
Here is what I'd like to do to the phone:
Run Manila 2D (essentially make my phone an HTC clone)
Run some kind of screen lock slider, preferably identical to that of the iphone
Install a new keyboard (spb or resco)
My first question before I get into anything else is -- Is this possible to run all of these modifications, or when running Manila is it impossible to run anything else? I have a 2 GB storage card, and the knowhow to install cab files and such. Still details would be much appreciated.
Concerning Manila 2d -- I have read that once installed there is still a hefty amount of tweaking to do, is this still the case, or has most of the tweaking been handled in the newest version? (nuances I've read such as threaded messages being recognized as "read" etc) Also does one need anything preinstalled in order to run it properly? What other tweaks will I need in order to take full advantage of Manila 2d? (commanager etc)
I understand there are stickys and previous information for this sort of topic, but most are written for those with a little more in-depth knowledge of winmo and applications thereof. (for example I do not know what commmanager is etc) So I need someone to just give me a brief rundown as well as cover all of the basic must haves for the Omnia
Thank you all I understand this may be tedious but I appreciate any and all help.