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WM6 "Carrierfree" ROM?

I think this the time for making the latest released roms to be clean of carrier files, so we get more of free memory and also everyone can build his own one with this rom..
so how about taking these roms and extract => dump files => delete carrier files => delete carrier registries => repack the rom files ==> we get a carrierless rom!!
so anyone with me??!

Hi,
I flashed the dopod release and directly after it has booted the first time, while this popup comes up telling one that after 3 sec it is going to install the carrier specific software, customize bla bla and so on, I did a soft reset. This way you stop it from installing. After that you can mount the extended rom, have a look at the cabs in there and manually install what you like.
This works fine and this way you get your carrierfree WM6.
pronor

thanks for reply!
what about AT&T rom? it has some carrier files in OS.nb.
also dopod rom has some CABs that are includes in OS.nb so after every hardreset you cant make choice of installing them or not because thay are in the OS.nb files.
and to delete them you have to reCock the rom and delete them!!!
My idea is to make a rom that has no little file of carrier or also a tiny registery!! not to flash it as it is!!

Those carrier files are in the extrom, not in the os.nb, aren't they?
I'll change to my other pc, dump the rom and have a look for carrier files.
Edit: Found 67 exe files in the dopod rom, but I think there are no carrier files in it.
Edit #2: Found 2 dopod files in it, dopod_black.tsk (Theme) and P_Sound_Dopod_WWE_0713.cab (Soundfiles)

NightmarE said:
thanks for reply!
what about AT&T rom? it has some carrier files in OS.nb.
also dopod rom has some CABs that are includes in OS.nb so after every hardreset you cant make choice of installing them or not because thay are in the OS.nb files.
and to delete them you have to reCock the rom and delete them!!!
My idea is to make a rom that has no little file of carrier or also a tiny registery!! not to flash it as it is!!
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Take a look at Pandora's ROM Kitchen (recent thread). It does exactly what you want: take a clean (AT&A) ROM as base and then **** the extra you want yourself...
If you don't want the whole kitchen just take the OS.nb from it (or extract the OS from the official ROM).

Normally operator specific stuff goes in the extrom (that's the real bloat). The primary customisation that starts first is OEM specific (normally) and happens from preconfig.txt in the windows directory. For instance on the official ROM it runs a program to increase the in-call volume, which is very desirable as it means you can hear people when you are in a busy situation.

well, i done littel research about the different files in both Dopod and AT&T roms and made a file list.
you can find some register files in at&t rom *.rgu anyway i think there is also some files are same in name but different in version or build. for example the dialer in dopod support video call while the one in at&t does not support video call but it support PTT.
so here is the file list i hope it help you for knowing the carrier files.

pronor said:
Hi,
I flashed the dopod release and directly after it has booted the first time, while this popup comes up telling one that after 3 sec it is going to install the carrier specific software, customize bla bla and so on, I did a soft reset. This way you stop it from installing. After that you can mount the extended rom, have a look at the cabs in there and manually install what you like.
This works fine and this way you get your carrierfree WM6.
pronor
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did you look at the extended ROM and the cabs it install's before you pressed the reset button there are a few usefull cabs and settings applied to the device... IE there is a new WLAN driver applied...

walshieau said:
did you look at the extended ROM and the cabs it install's before you pressed the reset button there are a few usefull cabs and settings applied to the device... IE there is a new WLAN driver applied...
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Hmm, as I wrote I installed some CABS manually afterwards directly out of the ext Rom and everything was working fine for me - but maybe in my noob way of doing so - I forgot something very important though everything worked excelllent as long I was testing it.
Nevertheless, I cooked my own rom now with the pandora kitchen - and this seems to work fine as well

any idea how to activate the startup animation in the rom??

hi all
if anyone can safe the time for me to tell me how to activate the startup animation (reg and files required)
pandora kitchen has a package but its written there "can't run"
thanks in advanced

When I've used HTC animation in Pandora, it works for me

klabton said:
When I've used HTC animation in Pandora, it works for me
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could i have the package which worked with you, the kitchen is very big

I'm running now Dopod Lite, but when i have made my rom with Pandora, when it was working, I have marked twice option to enable HTC Animation. When i will be at home, I will chceck this an make some screenshoots
Ok. So I've checked this twice: one in utilities, second in Starup Animation menu.

klabton said:
I'm running now Dopod Lite, but when i have made my rom with Pandora, when it was working, I have marked twice option to enable HTC Animation. When i will be at home, I will chceck this an make some screenshoots
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thanks so much bro, i'm downloading the kitchen to check out

Here You go

klabton said:
Here You go
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i meant the startup animation which animate a gif file with the booting
anyway, thanks for trying to help

It's a registry setting, if you check out Vp3G's 3.0 made with the AT&T WM6 he actually has the Animated HTC in a CAB file that you can download, it's located in the ADD-ONS file... all you have to do is run that cab and voila!

VP3G addons can be found HERE at the end of the post

Madcap180 said:
VP3G addons can be found HERE at the end of the post
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i tried running the cab and it doesnt work.

Same here. This cab is not making this logo to work. All regs are ok. But it's not working. I even tried make this HTC.gif as a splash and i've put is via RUU, but still no results...

You can't just install my cabs on any old ROM and expect it to work. There are some ROM-specific animation components needed.
My cabs should work on any AT&T-branded WM6 or derivatives thereof, however I make no guarantees. They'll definitely work on vp3G v3.0 or v3.60.

This one has been bugging me too. There's some specific differences between the AT&T 3.57 and the T-Mo 3.60 that the cab's (and my packages) don't resolve.
I'm hoping to find the specific dependency, and I'll post once it's found. I'm sure it's something simple - just elusive What better way to spend a rainy Thursday?
Edit: I got it working, but only by copying the entire OEMDrivers folder from 5.5 (3.57). I'm narrowing down which files specifically now...
Got it down to 40 files from the decompiled dll list... ugh...

Are you trying to enable it on the dpod ROM? The Dopod and T-Mo/At&T has a different structure. Unil today I can only put it to run on T-Mo and AT&T only.

cyphol said:
Are you trying to enable it on the dpod ROM? The Dopod and T-Mo/At&T has a different structure. Unil today I can only put it to run on T-Mo and AT&T only.
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Just a T-Mo 3.60. It works now, but I had to use a bunch of the dll's from the OEM drivers (the decompiled ones).

mattk_r said:
Just a T-Mo 3.60. It works now, but I had to use a bunch of the dll's from the OEM drivers (the decompiled ones).
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Yes it's better for you to take all the .dlls in OEMDrivers and replace them in your own as necessary. It's for integrity also.

mattk_r said:
Just a T-Mo 3.60. It works now, but I had to use a bunch of the dll's from the OEM drivers (the decompiled ones).
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Is it possible to get install it using a cab or does the changes have to be baked in?

chymmylt said:
Is it possible to get install it using a cab or does the changes have to be baked in?
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My opinion is, " When there're many .dlls files affected then it's better to be cooked in."
Since Mattk_r is going to enable it on Pandora, then you can have it very soon or you can just take Schaps or my ROM. It's already been enabled since my first ROM.

cyphol said:
My opinion is, " When there're many .dlls files affected then it's better to be cooked in."
Since Mattr_k is going to enable it on Pandora, then you can have it very soon or you can just take Schaps or my ROM. It's already been enabled since my first ROM.
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Hahaha - But I can't wait for 6.2 to get posted

chymmylt said:
Hahaha - But I can't wait for 6.2 to get posted
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Then, try my ROM or Schaps or ..... I know that my cooked ROM is not as famous or as great as others but .......... Hmmmmm....

official att wm6 release without bloat

Now that ATT released the 8525 wm6 is there someone who has removed the bloat? I would like to keep the official release for stability but not the extras. Is there anything out there or can I make a request for it by someone who knows what they are doing?

there plenty of roms already using the exact build that is in the ATT release.

most likely, vp3g will do it soon

MistaRip said:
most likely, vp3g will do it soon
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He already has. Check his updated post of 3.62

psuarmy said:
Now that ATT released the 8525 wm6 is there someone who has removed the bloat? I would like to keep the official release for stability but not the extras. Is there anything out there or can I make a request for it by someone who knows what they are doing?
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Hypercore
Austinsync
VP3G
all have roms for AT&T WM6

shihayadreamer said:
Hypercore
Austinsync
VP3G
all have roms for AT&T WM6
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Yes, but he wants the official build (3.62.yaddayadda.03 versus 3.62.yaddayadda.02).

mcorrie1121 you are right. I have tried most other roms and have had either stability or other issues. No problems so far with the actual official release for ATT. I just don't like the bloat, but I am not quite good enough to take it out myself and not ruin my phone.
I am trying vp3g's latest release now I will see how it works.
OK I have the wm6 .exe from ATT. I would like to break it down and edit the extended ROM to remove what I don't want. I have NBHextract, NBHgen, and Modified RUUUpdater but they may as well be Pig Latin. I have looked thru the forum and I am missing something, or is there an easier way that I don't know about. Any help?

psuarmy said:
mcorrie1121 you are right. I have tried most other roms and have had either stability or other issues. No problems so far with the actual official release for ATT. I just don't like the bloat, but I am not quite good enough to take it out myself and not ruin my phone.
I am trying vp3g's latest release now I will see how it works.
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Austinsnyc should be makin one soon. It was hinted at least. I have found his to be the most stable and fast ROM based on the old 3.62, and I used vp's for awhile. vp's ROM is very nice too, but this one just whips it, so I'm waiting.

If you want the AT&T rom minus the bloat, then flash the official rom and do a soft reset when the 3 second counter comes up. That will prevent the at&t customization software from running. The customization software consists of two parts, the first part lives in the \windows folder and is installed with the preAutoRun.exe and controlled by the PreConfig.txt file.
The second part is called by the first application and lives in the \Extended_Rom folder. You cannot see this folder by default. If you install total commander and manually type the folder location in the address bar, you will be able to see the files located in it. It is installed by the AutoRun.exe and controlled by the Config.txt file.
There is an application availabe here on xda(not sure where I found it) that allows you to mount all the extended rom partitions. After you install it and reboot, the Extended_Rom will show up in the file explorer as a folder. What I did was copy all of the preconfig and config files to a folder on my computer. I then modified the preconfig.txt and config.txt files to suite my tastes. I also edited the .xml files to remove the stuff I didn't want(creating all the music icons, installing the internet proxy, etc.). I put all the files I needed in a folder called cingular, and modified the path in the preconfig.txt and config.txt files to be \cingular instead of \windows and \extended_rom. Then I edited the registry settings under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm.
There are two settings that need to be changed, PreAutoRunCFG and AutoRunCFG. They point to the location of the two text files that control the installation of the bloat. You can't change the actual text files as they are located in ROM, not RAM. Once everything is sitting in the \cingular folder and the registry is modified, I kick it all off with the preautorun.exe and my customized at&t customizations are installed.
I only change/remove the things I'm sure I don't want/need. Anything I'm unsure about, I leave alone. You can tell that a lot of that stuff was written by programmers who didn't think anyone would ever look at it. Lots of commented out stuff left in there and other stuff listed as requested by so and so. Anyway, That's pretty much it. If you mess up, do a clear storage and try again till you get it just how you want it. I hope this helps someone.

psuarmy said:
Now that ATT released the 8525 wm6 is there someone who has removed the bloat? I would like to keep the official release for stability but not the extras. Is there anything out there or can I make a request for it by someone who knows what they are doing?
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Maybe you just would be happy by not installing the CUSTOMIZATION? I had the ATT WM6 for a while and if you prevent your device from customizing your Hermes (the installation after first start / screen alignment - you get a message on the screen telling you that IT WILL CUSTOMIZE YOUR DEVICE IN 3 SECONDS - simply soft reset your device within this 3 secs and you will end up with a pretty clean WM6 ROM).

There are other things that can be removed that arent included in the extended ROM, as well as other things that can be incorporated (SetAcousticParameter, anyone?). Besides, i dont have the attention span to do what thexman suggested

If i would do the soft reset right after install to keep the bloat from being installed like suggested then just added the ATT config cab would that work? The only thing I need ATT for is phone calls and SMS texts, no mms or internet. I have wi-fi for that. Then I could just find what I want and add it.

the at&t settings are only used for mms and internet. so in ur case u dont really need to install them.

psuarmy said:
If i would do the soft reset right after install to keep the bloat from being installed like suggested then just added the ATT config cab would that work? The only thing I need ATT for is phone calls and SMS texts, no mms or internet. I have wi-fi for that. Then I could just find what I want and add it.
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Let me know what your end results are. I want to see how it goes.

alltheway I will let you know it might take me a day or so though
OK I installed the ROM and soft reset before extended ROM install. So far so good. I can make calls and send texts. Everything else seems to be working well. I will see how this works for a few days though maybe I will try another ROM such as Schaps or another cleaned out WM6 ROM to remove some of the unwanted Windows items. Thanks for the suggestions.

ROM cooking: smthing else than initflashfiles affects shortcuts

Hi, everyone! I´m still working on a Wizard (don´t want to touch my Hermes, yet). I´m pretty advanced... but
I dump the [latest] original cingular WM5. I rebuilt it with office 2007 and realize that the original shortcuts are still there. Of course, they are both useless (as I have new names for the apps) and annoying (because I can´t remove them before compiling).
This is the whole point: Those shortcuts are not coming from neither an xml update for the XIP nor an initflashfiles.txt
HOW ON EARTH DO I REMOVE THEM. I can´t find what is creating and copying those shortcuts
Are they embedded in the OS.nb file? If so, how do I take that file apart?
Any help is very much appreciated!

..provxml, m8..

Nope, had checked already
*.mopvxml, etc had been checked.
But... what did you mean by m8?.
BTW: I will check inside os.nb now, but please give me fresh ideas

You may also want to check for a file called initflashfiles.dat. That contains a lot of shortcut information as well. Especially for apps that are default for that particular ROM. It should be found in the OEM\OEM_LANG_* folder in the kitchen. The (*) is the locale number. For example, a WWE ROM would have the folder as OEM_LANG_0409.

Yep, solved (initflashfiles.dat)
Hey, thanks! You´re FAST!
I was about to post it. But thanks, you could have saved me hours
Anyways. If anyone ever reads this thread, remember: scavenging os.nb(a) isn´t that great. An automated kitchen does it all (Hypercore in this case).
I also found somebody claiming that certain shortcut came from a dll. Just keep as a sidenote.
Cheers!

wm 6.5 build [23016] clean rom lite without m2d

can someone post or guide me as to how remove m2d from rom wm6.5 [23016]build or upload this rom without the m2d cause it is a very stable and fast rom and without m2d it would be more faster i use hypercore kitchen pls help

I cooked a rom (sys/xip build 23017) but the most important problem is the wifi what i cant solve. It doesnt work and no wifi icon in wrlsmgr.exe. I think the driver doesnt load on startup. Can someone help me?

htc ROM Image Edition

iggord said:
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i have this software but which files to remove

Russian 21501_clean for example.
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=115951&view=findpost&p=2734290

And can you say yomething to my problem?
Thx a lot!

Shady313 said:
And can you say yomething to my problem?
Thx a lot!
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pls upload ur rom then we can see

Here is my kitchen (thx for ervius) - solved
I tried to copy the whole registry from another rom and tried another oem and a lot of things but the wifi doesnt work
I've made a custom Connection Manager, but i think its not a problem, because i also dont see the wifi icon in the wrlsmgr.exe.
Thx for the help

I've tried everything:
-ported another xip/sys
-full oem, without my changes
-full sys without my changes
-copy the whole registry from another rom
-overwrite old sys files with the new ones
-searh rgu problems - i found nothing
-and a lot of other things
I hope, the downloaders will help me/us...

you can always just turn M2D off
it will still have the program files obviously, but it wont be activated so it will free up some RAM.
Just go to settings -> Today -> Items and deactivate TouchFlo and enable Windows Default

d-signet said:
you can always just turn M2D off
it will still have the program files obviously, but it wont be activated so it will free up some RAM.
Just go to settings -> Today -> Items and deactivate TouchFlo and enable Windows Default
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yes but if u remove it u get to install more cabs and if it stays on board even if it is swithed off it runs in background eating ram

I tried my custom things with a 21231 sys and wifi works fine. The problem is with sys but what? :S

OK, I solved it. Thx for everyone who tried to help me (nobody)... I hope you will be helpful on next time

Shady313 said:
OK, I solved it. Thx for everyone who tried to help me (nobody)... I hope you will be helpful on next time
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can u pls upload ur nbh file for build 20317

Now I made to a 23017-21928 hybrid, with my own customizations (i just cook for myself, because i think the other people doesnt like what i do for example: i delete Internet Explorer, i dont need m2d and these stuffs like this (i use ibrythill's WM7 with music, phone, clock, test, windows live and weather widgets)) If you think, i'll upload my beta version (with some bug, because ive got some problems with my oem and i extended it, so i started it from 0). I'll try to make it faster with more free memory.
I think I upload it tomorrow, now i go to sleep.
If someone will be intrested in my rom, i can upload that in some other localization, but i dont have much time.
Bye

Shady313 said:
Now I made to a 23017-21928 hybrid, with my own customizations (i just cook for myself, because i think the other people doesnt like what i do for example: i delete Internet Explorer, i dont need m2d and ther stuff like this (i use ibrythill's WM7 with music, phone, clock, test, windows live and weather widgets)) If you think, i'll upload my beta version (with some bug, because ive got some problems with my oem and i extended it, so i started it from 0). I'll try to make it faster with more free memory.
I think I upload it tomorrow, now i go to sleep.
Bye
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Keep it up.

Shady313 said:
Now I made to a 23017-21928 hybrid, with my own customizations (i just cook for myself, because i think the other people doesnt like what i do for example: i delete Internet Explorer, i dont need m2d and these stuffs like this (i use ibrythill's WM7 with music, phone, clock, test, windows live and weather widgets)) If you think, i'll upload my beta version (with some bug, because ive got some problems with my oem and i extended it, so i started it from 0). I'll try to make it faster with more free memory.
I think I upload it tomorrow, now i go to sleep.
If someone will be intrested in my rom, i can upload that in some other localization, but i dont have much time.
Bye
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keep it up wating and how do u remove the m2d

I dont remove that, I just dont include in the rom OEM

Shady313 said:
I dont remove that, I just dont include in the rom OEM
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i have 23016 nbh with m2d
i use hypercore to dump rom
after ddumping which files should be rmoved or tell me ur way of editing this nbh file

I think you cannot edit the dumped rom, because its protected, so it doesnt make packages what you can remove. These nbhs doesnt include the dsm files, because the storage (and program???) memory. You can make packages only by dsm files.
I never remake others' rom because these inculde what i dont need and it doesnt include what i need. - So with lot of learn you can make your own customized, ported rom. (ervius visual kitchen can help you). I learnt everything by myself, over google, just need some time (maybe some sleepless day ).
In one word: don't dump the nbh files, because you cannot You have to port a xip/sys and if you want, modify rgus, provxmls, muis, initflashfiles and others to make it comfortable.
Sorry for my English.
My rom is coming soon