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MDA III - Newbie Set-Up Confusion (MSN Messenger)

Hi,
picked up a shiny new MDA III yesterday afternoon having switched providers - number transfer in progress - so I'm new to both the handset and the provider.
Managed to get the unit hooked up to my home WiFi network pertty simply etc and got the Active Sync sorted etc.... other than the fact the GRPS isn't configured out of the box, I've got a single major bugbear to sort.
That is that I don't seem to be able to get MSN Messenger to connect.
It's exhibiting exactly the same symptoms suggested here.... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;832515
... but obviously the refers to a previous OS version ?
So, either I have something to fix or unlock in the set-up, the port is blocked on the handset (works fine on my laptop on the same WiFi through the same firewall) ?
Had a search through the forums, but to no avail. Can anyone help me on this ?
Are there any recommended patches/fixes I should have installed straight from the off ?
Thanks in advance !
Matt

OK, just so you you don't think I'm totally clueless, from what I've just been reading in the T-Mobile online manual, I have to have the GPRS connection open to connect to Messenger.
Is this right ? Surely if I have a active WiFi connection is should be able to connect using that, right ? Will it connect via GPRS and then pass it over to WiFi ?
I'll have to check it when I get home to see if I can resolve it in that way.
Any other tips gratefully received !
Matt

I'm using Messenger with a CSD (GSM) connection because it's part of my allowance. Sorry but I haven't tried WiFi yet.

I'm having the same problem.
MSN Messenger works fine using GPRS but fails to login using my Wifi connection.
What's even weirder is that it works ok when docked (ActiveSync)!!!
I'm using MDA III on T-Mobile (UK)
Anyone got any ideas?

I've tried replicating this issue, but on my XDA IIs over WiFi, it connects to messenger no problem... it doesn't even try to initiate a GPRS connection first. I can only assume that the MDA III is configured slightly differently out of the box.
As a thought, you might want to double-check Connection Manager and see which type of connection is set for programs that automatically connect to the internet

Ok, home and finished doing the set-up.
I've found no way of using MSN by any other protocol than GPRS. If you are WiFi atached and attempt to use MSN, then it will drop the WiFi connection and instead pick up GPRS. And obviously you're on for .075p per kb... which might be the real answer in why T-Mobile have set-up the device in this way.
The 'programs that automatically connect to the internet' doesn't seem to allow you to select WiFi as the default connection, only the range of GSM/GPRS options and the 'My Work' one.
Should I use the 'My Work' VPN option and set that up to use WiFi ?
If anyonebody has got any tips on how to set or hack this... seems there are a few of us that might benefit !

Just out of curiosity: if you go into your WiFi manager, have you specifically told the device that the WiFi card in your MDA III connects you to "The Internet"?
I can't recall whether that was the default setting before I set up my wireless network connection on my IIs... it seems like such a no-brainer, but it could assume that your WiFi connection is to a work network etc.

I'm at work and it 's at home.... but I'm adamant that that it knows that the WiFi connection connects to the Intanet. As you say, I think that it is the default setting
However, I will check !
Any other MDA III owners shed any light on this ?

BUG? in ActiveSync configuration on WM6?

When configuring Activesync, you would choose which connection for it to use to sync with exchange server and in the WM5 I would pick My ISP but on the WM6 "Internet" is the only options in the drop down menu.
Shouldn't it be listing all avaiable connections you have added in the Connection settings?
Maybe a bug? or is there a setting where I select connection type for "Internet" on WM6?
Thanks
Bill

In the connections dialogue you select what My ISP (or whatever you use, i.e mine is 'O2') connects to, which is usually the internet.
When you set activesync to connect via the internet it will use ANY connection which does just that. So if you are connected via the USB to your pc it will connect to the internet through that. If you are disconnected from your PC it will use your GPRS instead.
I dont think it is a 'bug' really. Does your activesync work as desired?

mrvanx said:
In the connections dialogue you select what My ISP (or whatever you use, i.e mine is 'O2') connects to, which is usually the internet.
When you set activesync to connect via the internet it will use ANY connection which does just that. So if you are connected via the USB to your pc it will connect to the internet through that. If you are disconnected from your PC it will use your GPRS instead.
I dont think it is a 'bug' really. Does your activesync work as desired?
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Yeah Activesync seem to be working fine but in WM5 it wouldn't work with connections that uses proxy and it would allow me to select a connection in the drop down menu that doesn't have proxy setting ie "My ISP"
Perhaps the new Activesync now works with proxy.
As far I can tell it's working fine.

Mine does not - I have to manually use activesync to get mail from the Exchange Server. Push does not seem to work. There is another thread on this here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297781
It is really annoying me at the moment as I canot find a workaround.
It seems that activesync can find the GPRS when I do a manual Sync, but has a warning that i do not have a cellular internet connection. Odd. I originally used the Orange .cab files to set up the connections, I then deleted them and recreated the connection manually which made no difference.
Any ideas would be welcome!

I have a similar problem. I'm not sure if it's the same or not. Help would be appreciated...
When my Hermes is roaming everything in hunky-dory, GPRS, HSDPA, Push-Email... all is running smooth. BUT...
When I Activesync (I have "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop" unchecked - as advised in this thread), the hermes initially drops any wireless connections, then, instead of using the PC's broadband (as per WM5 & Activesync 4.2) to sync with Exchange it tries to dial up to GPRS again. Sync ultimately fails with error code 85020006. This webpage says the problem is "The Connection Manager could not find a path to the destination.
- OR -
Unable to connect. Verify your dialup or proxy settings are correct, and try again"
This is annoying as I have SPB Insight installed which I want to use the PC's connection to update all the channels, as well as sync with Exchange.
EDIT: I tried this before among other things and it didn't work but now it seems to be working OK. The only thing I can think that has fixed it is changing "This computer is connected to:" The Internet

well i also have WM 6 installed on my device and when i configured AS to sync with mail2web exchange server it stopped accessing the Internet when connected to the PC via USB/ AS.... whenever i try to access the Internet when the device is cradled the device opens the GPRS connection and connects to the net.... how do i get AS to connect to the net when cradled and not GPRS... and the exchange sync gives an error MSG 85020006...
someone please help me.... its really very frustrating not being able to connect to the net when connected via USB/ AS...
thank u

nahguam said:
I have a similar problem. I'm not sure if it's the same or not. Help would be appreciated...
When my Hermes is roaming everything in hunky-dory, GPRS, HSDPA, Push-Email... all is running smooth. BUT...
When I Activesync (I have "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop" unchecked - as advised in this thread), the hermes initially drops any wireless connections, then, instead of using the PC's broadband (as per WM5 & Activesync 4.2) to sync with Exchange it tries to dial up to GPRS again. Sync ultimately fails with error code 85020006. This webpage says the problem is "The Connection Manager could not find a path to the destination.
- OR -
Unable to connect. Verify your dialup or proxy settings are correct, and try again"
This is annoying as I have SPB Insight installed which I want to use the PC's connection to update all the channels, as well as sync with Exchange.
EDIT: I tried this before among other things and it didn't work but now it seems to be working OK. The only thing I can think that has fixed it is changing "This computer is connected to:" The Internet
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This solved my problem....thank you so much!

problem with live messenger on wm 6

whenever I want to sign in to msn live messenger, my hermes tries to connect to gprs connection. even when I have free direct access to internet through wifi connection.
I tried everything but it still tries to connect.
Apart from live messenger I can connect to every type of internet service through the active wifi connection.
Is this a bug o the live messenger ?
Is there any newer version that beats this bug ?

I believe that it is a "feature" of WLM that no user actually wants but the network operators are quite happy with and probably had a say in.
Best workaround I know of is to have a network set up with no connections defined, and select that in Settings > Connections tab > Connections > Advanced tab > Select Networks. You may already have a network defined there called "Wifi" (my Orange M3100 did).
If you do that, all apps will be forced through wifi (if enabled), but if you want to use GPRS, you will have to switch the network back.
Anyone know of any apps that will make it quick and easy to change this with a single button click? I hoped that Phoneweaver would have it in the profiles but it doesn't

Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"

unwired4 said:
Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"
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interesting, it works.
but if I reset, then connect to gprs for any other reason.
and then disconnect.
then it never connects to msn with no gprs connection.
after a reset it works again.
thanks for the workaround...

Windows Live Messenger: cannot connect to the server

Why do I get always this error message?? Either with wifi and 3G connex...

me too...i don't know why!!

same problem here
cannot connect to server

Does anyone know the reason?

Similar problem here
In the last step of the login process, this error appears:
"Windows Live cannot connect temporaly. Perhaps you don't have the correct signal for data connections. Try to connect later or contact your service provider for further assistence".
(I have no problems connecting to the Internet)
Any idea?
HTC S300 Vodafone_ES (a.k.a. HTC Trinity) with FAMAN_4.02_ES
Windows Live 10.6.0032.3100

Hi,same problem on my Kaiser : I understand that some provider lock proxy.For more info,look here

????
I just logged into Windows Live Messenger -> no problem.
I synced my contacts, settings, e-mail -> no problem.

live messenger works for my just one week,and after same message :
Problem with server,please try later.
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Strange...
With my configuration:
- Windows Live Messenger from the Trinity refuses to connect (probably due to port blocking)
- Windows Live Messenger from a PC connected through the Trinty (using the same connection -with the same blocked ports-) works perfectly.
Does the WLM "Mobile" need more ports than the WLM "Desktop"???
Regards... Alfredo.

amno1970 said:
With my configuration:
- Windows Live Messenger from the Trinity refuses to connect (probably due to port blocking)
- Windows Live Messenger from a PC connected through the Trinty (using the same connection -with the same blocked ports-) works perfectly.
Does the WLM "Mobile" need more ports than the WLM "Desktop"???
Regards... Alfredo.
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It is an intelligent question...we can't sign in WLM because we have, for example, a router and we must open the port inside for the problem with router firewall.

zooster said:
Why do I get always this error message?? Either with wifi and 3G connex...
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same here.
Italy, Vodafone or Wifi.
WTF!
s

I was thiking about server and proxy configuration: maybe there is a registry key to connect directly to MSN server without any proxy to bypass server limitation...
Other point: Anyone is using OZPocketPC messenger?
Thankyou in advance for your replies!
s

Do only italians have this issue??

Vidafone IT, same problem, unable to connect.

Spanish too
I'm spanish and have this problem too.
I think that we all are people using cheap price plans that block some ports different than 80, 443, 110 and so on.
As WLM on the device tries to connect to 1863, it does not work.
Microsoft should update WLM Mobile to work with standards ports as they did with WLM Desktop.
Regards,
Alfredo

amno1970 said:
I'm spanish and have this problem too.
I think that we all are people using cheap price plans that block some ports different than 80, 443, 110 and so on.
As WLM on the device tries to connect to 1863, it does not work.
Microsoft should update WLM Mobile to work with standards ports as they did with WLM Desktop.
Regards,
Alfredo
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But we all have this problem also using wifi.. so I don't think it's a matter of ports blocked by providers...

zooster said:
But we all have this problem also using wifi.. so I don't think it's a matter of ports blocked by providers...
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I agree with you

ocram72 said:
I agree with you
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yes, you are right.
wifi doesn't work as well.

wlm mobile only uses 2 ports:
the 443 to login (normal)
and the 50001 for the communications (it seems to be ssl)
(CONNECT tcp.mws.mobile.live.com:50001)
the server "tcp.mws.mobile.live.com" and the port "50001" are stored in the registry "HKLM/Services/Windows Live/Platform/Transport/"
i already saw a connection in http.mws.mobile.live.com (maybe when tcp is unvailable) but i didn't remember the port used

guys, is there by any chance that you all installed SPB pocket plus 4, mobile shell 1.5 and phone suite? previously i installed these programs and i cant connect to WLM. now i hard reset, tested WLM and it connected. Installed SPB PP 3.2 and the WLM still working. didnt go any further.

Wi-fi tethering?

Hello, Having issues setting up wi-fi tethering on my phone.
Used several different methods (fox-fi, wifi tether, the widgets that simply turn on wifi-tethering) and everyone gives me the exact same problem.
Turn on wi-fi tethering, it turns on without issue (on fox-fi it says "Started with errors"). Shows up as a network to connect to on my PC, connect to it without problem. But I don't get internet access. I can transfer files between the device, but don't get any data connection.
Anyone have a similar experience? Suggestions?
Using PDAnet I can connect my phone to my computer with the USB cable, turn on USB tethering, and that works fine. Would much rather have wi-fi tethering though.
I have the Verizon CDMA/LTE version, rooted running stock 4.04.

Monkoo said:
Hello, Having issues setting up wi-fi tethering on my phone.
Used several different methods (fox-fi, wifi tether, the widgets that simply turn on wifi-tethering) and everyone gives me the exact same problem.
Turn on wi-fi tethering, it turns on without issue (on fox-fi it says "Started with errors"). Shows up as a network to connect to on my PC, connect to it without problem. But I don't get internet access. I can transfer files between the device, but don't get any data connection.
Anyone have a similar experience? Suggestions?
Using PDAnet I can connect my phone to my computer with the USB cable, turn on USB tethering, and that works fine. Would much rather have wi-fi tethering though.
I have the Verizon CDMA/LTE version, rooted running stock 4.04.
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With any of the wi-fi tethering, sometimes dhcp acts up and doesn't get the correct ips. What kind of ip addresses are you getting on the computer you are wi-fi tethering?

unknownzero said:
With any of the wi-fi tethering, sometimes dhcp acts up and doesn't get the correct ips. What kind of ip addresses are you getting on the computer you are wi-fi tethering?
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None.
I don't get any internet connection whatsoever.
It connects to the network, I ca transfer files locally between the phone and my computer, but that's it.

Are you maybe using wifi direct as opposed to the hotspot option?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

SidereusOne said:
Are you maybe using wifi direct as opposed to the hotspot option?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Unlikely.
Pressed from my BANNED unified search enabled Maguro

SidereusOne said:
Are you maybe using wifi direct as opposed to the hotspot option?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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No. I've tried Foxfi and android wi-fi tether and both have the same result.
Checked it on a friends computer and same thing so more than likely the problem is on the phone end.
Everything I see online says you just download foxfi, press activate hotspot, connect to it, and that's it.
Is there some blatantly obvious step maybe I'm missing?
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Monkoo said:
No. I've tried Foxfi and android wi-fi tether and both have the same result.
Checked it on a friends computer and same thing so more than likely the problem is on the phone end.
Everything I see online says you just download foxfi, press activate hotspot, connect to it, and that's it.
Is there some blatantly obvious step maybe I'm missing?
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What's your phone service like? 3G/4G? How many bars?
Edit: Why do you prefer wifi tethering over USB tethering?

mb9023 said:
What's your phone service like? 3G/4G? How many bars?
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Full 4G. Service definitely isn't the issue.

Monkoo said:
Full 4G. Service definitely isn't the issue.
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I just remembered, if you're running stock you have to pay for mobile hotspot from Verizon.

mb9023 said:
I just remembered, if you're running stock you have to pay for mobile hotspot from Verizon.
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Really?
Then why do all the apps claim "no root required" and not even mention it?
I'm rooted, but running stock 4.04

Ok... sooo... It works!
I just remembered I had made my IP static a while back, changed it back to dynamic and it kicked in!
Not sure why my friends computer didn't work, maybe he had done the same? Anyway, works, posting this from my computer connected to my phones wifi.
Thanks everyone.

Monkoo said:
Ok... sooo... It works!
I just remembered I had made my IP static a while back, changed it back to dynamic and it kicked in!
Not sure why my friends computer didn't work, maybe he had done the same? Anyway, works, posting this from my computer connected to my phones wifi.
Thanks everyone.
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Ah, that would do it. I must have been thinking of something else. Are you using the default tethering or another app?