Which Program to use?
Spb backup?
Sprite backup?
Which one restores perfect backups on WM06?
NAdavi
Sunnysoft Backup Manager
http://www.sunnysoft.cz/software.php?idarticle=245
Have you tested it over WM06?
It works fine in Hermes WM6
qyach said:
It works fine in Hermes WM6
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ok
i will try.
Thanks
NAdavi
ok i have a question here.. now that i forsee we're going to be in a ROM flashing frenzy for a while, i don't want to manually reinstall everything everytime. So i used sunnysoft backup, but i didn't back up the registry (obviously some programs and settings aren't backed up) cause i figured some of the patches that are being released in newer ROM versions are registry tweaks..
so if i restore a backed up registry, won't there be a chance that it negates the registry tweak in the newer version?
thanks..
I'm no expert, but to my mind, if you want to back up your device and be able to restore it to the same state, you must include the registry in the backup.
When I try to install it says: Please install ActiveSync !! However I have ActiveSync 4.5 installed, any ideas or a CAB file??
Cheers
aZooZa said:
I'm no expert, but to my mind, if you want to back up your device and be able to restore it to the same state, you must include the registry in the backup.
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yeah i understand that.. what i'm asking is if a full backup (of registry and all) will really work, when i'm restoring it on an updated ROM. Cause that updated ROM would presumably have updated registry values.. then i'd be restoring some old registry values on top of it, etc...
someone have some thoughts on this? or what's worked and what hasn't?
racerx_ said:
yeah i understand that.. what i'm asking is if a full backup (of registry and all) will really work, when i'm restoring it on an updated ROM. Cause that updated ROM would presumably have updated registry values.. then i'd be restoring some old registry values on top of it, etc...
someone have some thoughts on this? or what's worked and what hasn't?
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While I think most will agree that the cleanest method is to reinstall all apps after a hard reset/rom upgrade, Sprite does have an option for backing up your system before a rom upgrade...personally I don't do it.
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yeah i understand that.. what i'm asking is if a full backup (of registry and all) will really work, when i'm restoring it on an updated ROM. Cause that updated ROM would presumably have updated registry values.. then i'd be restoring some old registry values on top of it, etc...
someone have some thoughts on this? or what's worked and what hasn't?
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Absolutely!
An example. I performed a full SPB backup after installing everthing onto mUn's wm6 rom the otherday. Then lvsw released his. So i installed his ROM, tested it a bit and activesync etc worked fine. Then I installed the backup (including registry) from mUn's rom and it changed a lot of things. removed some programs, etc. The activesync was not working anymore, just like on mUn's rom. Basically a full backup replaces all the folders including windows folder, so all software loaded into the ROM will be deleted and replaced. For some reason they dont try and merge the folders. Anyway. My point is that it is a very messy way to do things to install a full registry backup on a new updated ROM. It is absolutely fine on the same rom, and my backup proved very time-saving when I moved back to mUn's.
thanks for that.. just what i was wondering..
so, on a totally separate thought (hope it's ok to post here), does anyone know how to extract cab files from installers.. cause some of my programs only have windows .exe files.. it would speed up the re-instatement of my pda if i had everything on cab files, since a full backup isn't gonna do it.
racerx_ said:
thanks for that.. just what i was wondering..
so, on a totally separate thought (hope it's ok to post here), does anyone know how to extract cab files from installers.. cause some of my programs only have windows .exe files.. it would speed up the re-instatement of my pda if i had everything on cab files, since a full backup isn't gonna do it.
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On your PC go to: Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync.
So basically I understand that to make a backup of the programs to be used on a newer WM6 rom, I would need to backup also the registry of the current rom, but this by itself can lead to preserving bugs in the current ROM.
Is there a way other than installing cab files, to make this easier?? I'm interested mostly in backing up the SKYSCAPE medical appplications I currently have installed. Some of these apps are 50MB sized, and it takes lots of time to install them. Is there a way to backup these programs that do not affect essential functions (like phone, today screen)??
Is there a way other than installing cab files, to make this easier??
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look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1251367&postcount=1
SPB POCKET BACKUP 1.6
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Should support WM06.
Nadavi
KamaL said:
So basically I understand that to make a backup of the programs to be used on a newer WM6 rom, I would need to backup also the registry of the current rom, but this by itself can lead to preserving bugs in the current ROM.
Is there a way other than installing cab files, to make this easier?? I'm interested mostly in backing up the SKYSCAPE medical appplications I currently have installed. Some of these apps are 50MB sized, and it takes lots of time to install them. Is there a way to backup these programs that do not affect essential functions (like phone, today screen)??
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Kamal- unfortunately you can't restore any Skyscape products after a ROM update, because the Device ID changes each time (unlike Mobipocket/Handheldmed, where the PID stays the same). You can get new reg codes via the Skyscape website, but it is better to do a full reinstall of the Reader application each time. The basic Data folder (which is the large one, as you say) will remain on the SD card whatever the ROM state.
So, you are back to square one, in that you shouldn't apply a Restore after a ROM update, unless you are just reinstalling the same ROM version. Restores only restore the contents of the Storage memory- they don't affect files in ROM (ie a restore prompts a soft reset, not a hard reset)
The Sprite ROM update option is buggy and difficult to execute. You have to take an image of the device before the ROM update, then do the update, then run another program which compares the contents of the current ROM and the previous Backup, then supposedly only updates the changed files, ignoring the new ones. But reports I've seen suggest this is flakey at best, and that the contents of messaging folders gets corrupted.
If you are taking the trouble to do a ROM update, presumably to improve performance, it is better to do a full reinstall of your apps using cab files, or ActiveSync Add/Remove (except Skyscape products )
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Kamal- unfortunately you can't restore any Skyscape products after a ROM update, because the Device ID changes each time (unlike Mobipocket/Handheldmed, where the PID stays the same). You can get new reg codes via the Skyscape website, but it is better to do a full reinstall of the Reader application each time. The basic Data folder (which is the large one, as you say) will remain on the SD card whatever the ROM state.
So, you are back to square one, in that you shouldn't apply a Restore after a ROM update, unless you are just reinstalling the same ROM version. Restores only restore the contents of the Storage memory- they don't affect files in ROM (ie a restore prompts a soft reset, not a hard reset)
The Sprite ROM update option is buggy and difficult to execute. You have to take an image of the device before the ROM update, then do the update, then run another program which compares the contents of the current ROM and the previous Backup, then supposedly only updates the changed files, ignoring the new ones. But reports I've seen suggest this is flakey at best, and that the contents of messaging folders gets corrupted.
If you are taking the trouble to do a ROM update, presumably to improve performance, it is better to do a full reinstall of your apps using cab files, or ActiveSync Add/Remove (except Skyscape products )
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Thanks for the reply I didn't understand something about the Data folder on the storage card. Suppose I have 3-4 skyscape products installed on the stroage card, can I keep those folders and install only the viewer the next time I make a rom upgrade??
I'm not sure!
I tend to just run My Skyscape after each ROM upgrade- takes a couple of minutes to reinstall but I find its worth it. As the main data remains on the card, it might be worth just trying ActiveSync Add/Remove to reinstall the reader apps, though IIRC this didn't work on WM2003 as the newly installed reader wouldn't find the Data
But, Skyscape do seem to have imprpved their installers recently (despite the awful SmartUpdate app!)
I tried sprite backup and it crashed on faman fr rom... anyone use it ?
Hey All.
With all the great roms out of late it seems all i am doing is flashing my poor little JasJam.
The only anoying thing about it is that i can't seem to see any way to restore stuff like game and program save states.
Just as an example Pocket Informate losses all its contact photo links and you have to go back and relink them all. Another is a game call Tennis Addict where I can't seem to get it to go back to a previous save state.
I have even tried taking a copy of the directory of the game before the flash, then reinstalling it and copying the directory over the top and still no luck.
Is there a seperate place on the phone that this info is stored in.
Or is there a restore these programs after Flashing.
Cheers and Beers.
The only restoring I have been able to do is the entire restore. You just have to make sure you keep track of what backups go to what ROMS. You cant restore an LVSW backup onto a Black ROM. You flash the ROM to what OS it belongs to and then restore the backup.
Nice thought...I haven't ever heard of an app like that for Windows Mobile platform, but I used them for my old razr, slvr, and v3i back in the day...
Try backing up pim.vol and pocketinformant.vol
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Try backing up pim.vol and pocketinformant.vol
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Where are these files located? I'm working on an application to solve these problems for myself and just uploaded the early beta here...
Settings Savior v0.1
All it does so far is backup and restore registry settings, but files are my next thought. Then possible assisting with application installs.
Thanks,
Rob
Yea i didn't think there was any magic fix for this.
I just had having to start things all over again.
Especially when you have spent hours playing one game.
Cheers
dny238 said:
Where are these files located? I'm working on an application to solve these problems for myself and just uploaded the early beta here...
Settings Savior v0.1
All it does so far is backup and restore registry settings, but files are my next thought. Then possible assisting with application installs.
Thanks,
Rob
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Good idea Let me know how it goes.
I've had good luck with Sprite Software's SpriteBackup. If you do a full backup, do a hard-reset, then run a special program, it will snapshot the "default" state of your phone. Flash the new ROM, and run the restore program (from SD) -- it won't try to restore anything from the old rom onto the new ROM, but it will restore your programs and almost all settings. Check the FAQ on their site, and carefully read and follow the instructions exactly.
Make absolutely sure you have encryption turned OFF before you do the backup, or your backup file will be encrypted -- and your hard reset will blow the key away (and you won't be able to restore!).
I wouldn't try this between different ROMs, like LVSW->Black/etc... but I've had great results from Black 1.0 -> Black 2.0 -> Black 2.5 -> Black 3.
Oh -- make sure you delete your ActiveSync relationships (delete each component separately so it removes all 'synced' contacts, emails, etc, then delete the server), and delete any IMAP and POP3 email accounts BEFORE you do the backup. If you're using IMAP or Exchange, the phone will repull the info from the servers when you restore (just recreate your mail accounts).. if you're using POP3.. well... get your ISP to support IMAP - you'll be happier with it.
whats the best program to use to back up all my text messages and ring tones and contacts ?????
sprite backup or the backup utillity of sktools should work
PIM Backup is a free option available on XDA in the Dev and Hacking forum. Wont do ringtones but you can just copy them to comp via async, other options SKTools or for full backup SPB Backup or Sprite.
does sprite or spb do an image of your phone (i.e. all programs ,etc)? i'd really like to have that so i don't have to keep installing stuff after a rom release update.
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does sprite or spb do an image of your phone (i.e. all programs ,etc)? i'd really like to have that so i don't have to keep installing stuff after a rom release update.
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I use SPB and yes it images the whole phone you can choose the locations etc, i will say you do not want to use a backup after a ROM update as all you are doing is reverting to the previous ROM as core files are replaced, the way backups really help is if you say install something and it screws up your setup or any other error, you can hard-reset and use your backup.
The way i make it eazy for install after a ROM update is have an install directory on your storage card then you can just blat the programs on, generally leave the programs that need to restart the system till last
Hello
I would like to upgrade my blackstone ROM to the newer one from the HTC support site (is it good thing to do?).
But I don't want to loose any of my data - I don't have lots of them but i don't want to loose them (this counts SMSs, MOSTLY apps, settings and pics).
My questions is:
What is the best software to backup stuff?
I found that SPB Backup is very good.
But another question - how is this done? Do I install this app, backup the data I want (I read that I can select what i want to backup) and then upgrade the ROM, then install spb backup again on device and restore?
Can anyone please give me a little advice here who has some experience with backuping and restoring?
Thank you people.
Better way is to move all your files onto a seperate storage card or your computer, Download ppcPIM backup http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705 Then backup with that.
After installing new rom reinstall ppc pim backup and restore. I found tghat if you used sktools or spb backup then put a different rom on it messed things up.
spbbackup
very good software i just started to use it myself
it saves everything all settings for programs, tabs settings, tweaked settings everything. if your gonna flash, backup all your data with spb. it will save onto your memory card. then after flashing and hard resetting you reinstall the spb software onto your phone. launch it and choose restore then a few minutes later all your settings, contacts, programs r back on.
enjoy
superb thanks for both advices..I already to tried Spb Backup to backup my files but did not try to restore them yet...
Thanks
with sprite backup you can save yourself from having to install applications again. ive heard good things about it but havent tried myself. i think it costs also.
slightly off topic but i feel compelled to tell you that its "backing up" not "backuping"
I guess you are right...
thx for advice
After to have installed and shaped my device, i wanted to know if c' it is a way in order to create an image in the event in which you had to make all of new in order not losing time.
Like it is made with the PC through ghost or acronis.
An image would be comfortable .nbh to riflashare through spl.
Some idea?
Thanks
i'm not sure but SPB backup can be the solution.
I agree. SPB backup is a good backup program with which you can do complete backups (i dont really use it though - i just use it to backup my files every night with the scheduled backup option). the nice thing is that you can set it to make your backups as .exe files so that to restore, you dont even need it installed. There may be some free alternatives, but imo, SPB backup is worth the money.
you cant make .nbh files afaik as those are ROM files. Your personal data is not contained in the ROM and you probably wouldnt want it to be.