Who´s the idiot? me or Bill Gates? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I´m wondering why M$ integrated this lock device feature(the one on today screen) when it is literaly useless. I mean this feature should ask for a password when unlocking the device, at least if I put one under "settings". This lock device feature could be handy if I leave my device on a table in a restaurant or so, so nobody could read my private mails etc. but the as it is right now it makes no sense to me. Am I the only one who is missing that password feature on the today "lock device" plugin?

Ermmmm do you have tens of billions of dollars ?

Your partner read something she wasn't supposed to in the restaurant...?
You are aware that there is a difference between 'Device Lock' and 'Lock'?
The one under Today which is device lock / key lock just is a precaution to not accidently control the device in any way.
The lock reacts after a given time and then you need the password.

For me: I mow my grass with my hermes in my pocket and bluetooth stereo headset on my head with the music blasting away. I use the locked button to prevent me accidently mashing buttons while listening to music. Otherwise I do not use it. But I guess you do have a point that if settings say 'use a password' then it probably should use it. Just thought I'd chime in on at least why I use the feature.

ajmoncrief said:
For me: I mow my grass with my hermes in my pocket and bluetooth stereo headset on my head with the music blasting away. I use the locked button to prevent me accidently mashing buttons while listening to music. Otherwise I do not use it. But I guess you do have a point that if settings say 'use a password' then it probably should use it. Just thought I'd chime in on at least why I use the feature.
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i dont mow my grass but i do use mine in the same manner..
For the OP, you can set your phone to lock and require a passcode after a certain amount of time... these 2 locks are different things...
as for the contest, unfortunately for once im gonna have to credit to bill on this one

shogunmark said:
as for the contest, unfortunately for once im gonna have to credit to bill on this one
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Okay, so I don't know you or Bill Gates, I just want to say that the two options are not mutually exclusive. It is quite possible that you both are.
Just trying to help out.

Chinese billions vote for Bill:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/04/gates_poll/
Mike

laaban said:
Your partner read something she wasn't supposed to in the restaurant...?
You are aware that there is a difference between 'Device Lock' and 'Lock'?
The one under Today which is device lock / key lock just is a precaution to not accidently control the device in any way.
The lock reacts after a given time and then you need the password.
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Yes I am very aware that I can password lock my device, but for this I have to go to start settings lock which is very unconfortable. As a precaution to not accidentely toch anything when it´s in my pocket I press the power button

Hamudi2000 said:
I´m wondering why M$ integrated this lock device feature(the one on today screen) when it is literaly useless. I mean this feature should ask for a password when unlocking the device, at least if I put one under "settings". This lock device feature could be handy if I leave my device on a table in a restaurant or so, so nobody could read my private mails etc. but the as it is right now it makes no sense to me. Am I the only one who is missing that password feature on the today "lock device" plugin?
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You my friend - an idiot.

Hamudi2000 said:
As a precaution to not accidentely toch anything when it´s in my pocket I press the power button
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I'm only using the power button, gut lets say you get a sms during pocket time and not noticing? What then? Yes, the device is waking up and all the accidental possibilities are present... if not locking it.
I reeeeally want to know how to prevent the device from waking up under these circumstances, but I believe thats an other issue than this thread.

I will look like an idiot if I say Bill Gates is an idiot, so I have to choose you as an idiot.

laaban said:
I'm only using the power button, gut lets say you get a sms during pocket time and not noticing? What then? Yes, the device is waking up and all the accidental possibilities are present... if not locking it.
I reeeeally want to know how to prevent the device from waking up under these circumstances, but I believe thats an other issue than this thread.
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No, i use the power button also, and actually i also use battery status with the option to lock screen on device wake up... however when using WMP or HTC audio manager if you hit the power button to sleep it also kills the audio (i do believe there are other media players that wont shut off during sleep)

mikechannon said:
Chinese billions vote for Bill:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/04/gates_poll/
Mike
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thats fkd up mike.... now i know how you spend your spare time....

mikechannon said:
Chinese billions vote for Bill:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/04/gates_poll/
Mike
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ROFL. Needed that good laugh today..

Hamudi2000 said:
Yes I am very aware that I can password lock my device, but for this I have to go to start settings lock which is very unconfortable. As a precaution to not accidentely toch anything when it´s in my pocket I press the power button
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You do aware that you can have the password lock to have your device locked whenever you suspend (sleep) it using the power button?

ROFLMAO,
Now this is a humorous thread and if I must choose between you or Bill, then you must be the idiot.
If you don't want someone to read your mail or private items after leaving the phone (at the restaurant, on a table next to your date while you use the restroom), then set lock timeout for 1 minutes of inactivity. Better yet, keep the phone in your pocket and set the Device lock.
Device lock is very good for mowing the lawn, listening to music, jogging, and other things.

hanmin said:
You do aware that you can have the password lock to have your device locked whenever you suspend (sleep) it using the power button?
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Yes but that´s also disgusting, ´cause everytime my device suspends itself after the x minutes when I am at home and don´t need any security, this locking would get on my nerves. Oh well, seems that I am really the only one who finds this device lock today item useless...Maybe it´s because I don´t really need to protect my device from accidentally touching the screen because mine is covered by a transparent case. So I guess I´ve gotta live with this device unlocking madness... Thought others would already have found some reg hack or so to make that device lock useeable in the meaning I described in the beginning of this thread.

Hamudi2000 said:
I´m wondering why M$ integrated this lock device feature(the one on today screen) when it is literaly useless. I mean this feature should ask for a password when unlocking the device, at least if I put one under "settings". This lock device feature could be handy if I leave my device on a table in a restaurant or so, so nobody could read my private mails etc. but the as it is right now it makes no sense to me. Am I the only one who is missing that password feature on the today "lock device" plugin?
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Did you ever think that WM6 is intented to be use on many other mobile devices, including SmartPhones without hidden keyboards that needed to be locked without pushing the Power buton like we do for our Hermes devices?

If the "lock device" function is making you crazy, and you don't use it, why don't you remove it from the today screen?

mishu said:
Did you ever think that WM6 is intented to be use on many other mobile devices, including SmartPhones without hidden keyboards that needed to be locked without pushing the Power buton like we do for our Hermes devices?
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No I´m only used to PDA phones since my old XDA and I´ve never had a device without a power off button. I´ll ask another question. Is there any app wich lets me simply password protect my device with a press of a button? The funny (not really funny)thing is I can´t even put the WM6 password protect command on a soft button.

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simple phone lock required. can you write one for us all

Hello everyone
After trying all the phone lock software out there I still can’t find what I’m looking for, what I’m looking for is so simple an icon in the start menu to lock the phone then r2u or t2u & unlock when phone rings and that’s it. I don’t like the idea of having to press the power button to wake up the screen to be able to unlock the device I’m also not interested in all of the other features that most of the phone lock’s have. Can someone help?
I have tried sensor lock I did like it a lot but I was unable to configure it and you could tell it was running in the background as the screen would jump. Plus throw in my case and a few beers and I know I’m going to drop it.
Many Thanks Jez
A list of phone lock programs you will need to search for them as some of the links aren’t applicable any more and I did need not save the ones that are working
Throttle lock
S2u2
Sunscape
Touchlock pro
Phone buddy
M lock
Organic lock
Pocket shield
Sensor lock
Lock me tight
Stylus lock
try Auto Lock (CSDEVCTRL), you could slide to the right on the screen to unlock the phone or use the windows default unlock.
Hello gbjack
Just tried that app and it’s just to much setting up and I don't think it’s going to do what I want it to do. Just hope someone is willing to write a program going by all the forums I have searched it will be popular
Cheer’s for the reply and suggestion
I tried many lock apps as well, but in the end the standard windows lock is what im using. No hassle, and it simply works as intended. I just press the "hangup" virtual button, and after the second vibration feedback i can be sure that the phone is locked. Doesn't get any simpler than that.
Then you have to try " WWE-Chobit Company SmartLock 1.7B". Only four or five options but it cannot lock your hardware key during call.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032&highlight=Lock
Then you have to try " WWE-Chobit Company SmartLock 1.7B". Only eight very simple options but it cannot lock your hardware key during call.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032&highlight=Lock
Just tried that app and it’s not even showing in programs for me to set it up, so I will have to keep looking, it amazes me that no one has written a program like I’m after considering it’s so simple.
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try Auto Lock (CSDEVCTRL), you could slide to the right on the screen to unlock the phone or use the windows default unlock.
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This is good specialy the turn on bluetooth on call feature, but when we have an income call, the app takes ages to know what to do and the phone only begins to ring 5 secs after. Lockmelite it's the best one around but has a problem with alarms going to background after unlock. The "almost perfect" one is s2u but huge memory consuption makes background app's close or restart.
Hello jpl69
Tried this app found it to involved to setup and still does not do what I am looking for which is tap the screen to wake up so I than can unlock the phone using a s2u app. I find it bizarre that there are many apps to unlock the phone but you still have to push the power button to operate them. Surely it can’t take much program writing to add this feature. Jez
We have to push an hardware ley to wake up our devices from a low battery consuption state (suspend mode) and unfortunaly only have the power and volume hard keys so if you want to wake up your device with a tap on screen you'll only have a couple of hours with a full charge.
Now it makes sense why the screen sleeps if the battery only last for a couple of hours. Just a shame that the power button is so fiddly to operate. Jez
Yes, and it makes no sense having an device lock app (except on incoming calls). I only use it because of my 2 year old son that found the little tiny power on key , and made a couple of phone calls.
P.S. with a registry tweak you can enable the volume keys to wake up your device.
May be this could be your appropriate application:
MortSaver
jez.stix said:
Just tried that app and it’s not even showing in programs for me to set it up, so I will have to keep looking, it amazes me that no one has written a program like I’m after considering it’s so simple.
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It's not in the Programs folder, it's in the Settings Folder.
try smart lock 1.7b
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try smart lock 1.7b
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That is brilliant and can be found here.
Simple and effective (needs a reboot after install, and is found under settings.
Just to be helpful... here's the brilliantly useful Reg tweak to allow wake-up from the volume keys.
- HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
- set key: defaultkeylock from 1 to 0
- softreset
LockMeLite is definitely my favourite (especially with the above tweak), but as mentioned already, the alarm snooze / disappearing to background problem is a constant frustration.
Hello flid
Sorry for the delay everyone just got back from Canada so been busy catching up and sleeping. So how do I go about tweaking the reg key? I know how navigate to the reg key on a computer but not on my mobile
I changed my left soft key to lock the phone on the Home start screen as it was doing nothing useful except jumping to a phone operators website:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKPath = windows\Endkey.exe
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKText = Lock (or whether text you want).
You just need a windows mobile registry editor. There are several free ones. My current Dutty ROM has one inbuilt, but from what I can gather the popular options are Total Commander (free!), Schap's Registry (free), PHM RegEdit (which is built in to Dutty's ROM) and Resco Registry Editor (not free - but definitely the most finger friendly). There may well be others.

locking/unlocking programs and battery consumption

i was wondering if i could get sum people to tell me about ehir experiences with their locking/unlocking programs...such as, which ones youve used with success...im interested in knowing which ones use the least about of battery power, least amount of memory/ram...so on and so forth...any input wiould be greatly appreciated
specifically programs being used with the touch pro 2
I'm personally not a big fan of screen lock programs. I just think that for something as simple as locking the screen, the end-user shouldn't have to give up anything in terms of resources/battery life.
That's why I suggest sticking with the default WinMo lock.
I suggest either SmartLock or LockDevice to auto lock your device. Neither uses up any resources.
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).
I would really like to use the app, but there is a dialer conflict when getting incoming calls for boths apps. For example during an incoming call, I initially get HTC dialer. During the middle of the call, I get the original WM dialer. Do you have any suggestions to avoid this problem?
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pistou said:
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
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Thanks: I've loaded lockDevice and so far so good
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I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).
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What I meant was that my understanding of the default WinMo lock is that it only locks after a specific period of in activity (which I don't want to happen) rather than after a suspend (which is what I do want).

Auto-lock the phone, is this really possible?

Hi,
My phone keeps on living its own life in my pocket and really enjoy calling random people on my behalf. This is getting more and more irritating, and I would really love to be able to have it locked as soon as I suspend it.
I am using the official HTC ROM with WM6.5 WWE (and want to stick to this one). I also want to use the default WM6.5 lock screen which is perfect for my needs.
I allready tried a lot of solution presented on XDA, but none was perfect so far.
-HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDeviceLockEnable to 1. This solution seems to be the best, as it is built-in and light; but it doesn't work at all; the phone does not lock itself
-I tried DeviceLock from XDA, which didn't work either
-I also tried Autolock, which work quite good as long as I don't resume my phone with the sliding keyboard; after that I have to unlock it manually to get it working again...
-I also tried to add a PIN code, but this is really inconvinient for my use...
If you were able to successfuly use one of those solutions (or maybe even a new one), please let me know; you'll save my phone's life!
Thank you!
I haven't tried it, but HERE is another called LockDevice
i have always used s2u2. didnt use any of the fancy stuff, just as a screen lock. good thing is that u can set it to auto-off ur phone after n seconds. i set to 5s. so i dun even have to press the power button to off the phone. just map s2u2 to a shortcut button or softkey and it will off my phone 5s after activation. when u received and sms or miss a call, good thing is ur phone remains at the s2u2 screen, and it will turn off ur phone after 5s also.
PocketShield works great but you gotta buy it after a trial.
SecretAgentMan said:
I haven't tried it, but HERE is another called LockDevice
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Woaw this was exactly what I needed!
Very light and doing what it is supposed to do; thank you very much!
EDIT: Now I am looking for pretty wallpaper (which also work in landscape) for my lock screen, any advice?
LockDevice doesn't work for me for some reason.. It does if I use the power button, but if I use a software "Power Off" shortcut it does not.. And I use the shortcut 98% of the time to turn off the phone via hitting the End button twice or tapping my right softkey at the Today screen. If I use it, the phone doesn't lock at all.
I continue to use S2U2, which works just dandy, but it's pretty resource intensive. 3.2m of ram, although I personally have no problems with battery life etc using it.
I use CSDevCtrl its got loads of options and if you want to simply lock the device when you switch the screen off or after a period of time its easy to do so.
edit: I just realised that this is now called auto lock and may be the one you referred to in the OP. If it is just to let you know I don't have to unlock again after keyboard slide out so it may be worth double checking the settings.
yep reg settings have no effect. I use SmartLock (easy find if you search for on XDA) with WM6.5 lock and Suspend Lock enabled. The WM6.5 lock screen is awsome.
My favorite has become TouchLockPro. Can be set to no lock is there is light on the sensor, or external power, and using the G-Sensor.

What's the point of the lockscreen?

"Locking" the keypad on my old candy bar phone made sense - if you didn't, buttons were always pressed and people were sometimes dialed from your pocket. I can also see the case for a lockscreen on the iPhone, for example, since maybe its home button can be pressed accidentally as well. However, for the EVO and for the Pre I had before it, the only way to turn on the device is via the power button up top, which is surely not going to be pressed on accident (especially with the EVO where it's only slightly raised and must be pressed deliberately). Because of this, the lockscreen serves practically no purpose, except to add an extra redundant step before using your phone. It might be more useful if it showed all recent notifications on it webOS-style, but since it only shows the most recent one, it's not very good for that either, and it isn't a big deal to pull down the shade once you're in the phone.
So, unless you actually secure your phone with a password/gesture/PIN, is there really any point to the lockscreen?
Im going to go on a guess here but the purpose of the lock screen is , in the event that the phone is in your pocket "Granted highly unlikely" the button does get pushed another process of slidding your finger down the screen to unlock would also be needed . I believe the phone sitting in a pocket or a purse or case it would be even more difficult for the sliding motion on the screen to happen . Just an extra safe guard more or less .
You can use SwitchPro Widget to disable the lockscreen if you want.
Because its part of Android and the Evo isn't the only Android phone.
...yep.
nebenezer said:
You can use SwitchPro Widget to disable the lockscreen if you want.
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Is there an app or a way to just use the pattern lock as opposed to the slide down lock? I'd rather just have the pattern lock when unlocking rather than the swipe screen lock and then a pattern lock.
Also no lock works like a charm.
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Because its part of Android and the Evo isn't the only Android phone.
...yep.
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This is one reason. The other is simply because iPhone has it and it is Android competition, there is no denying that the development tries to outdo each other.
I do understand the OP's reasoning, with the build of HTC EVO 4G, lockscreen is not necessary. On the other hand, it is advised to lock your screen with either PIN or pattern just in case you lose your device. It is part of personal security responsibility.
ritzbrie said:
Is there an app or a way to just use the pattern lock as opposed to the slide down lock? I'd rather just have the pattern lock when unlocking rather than the swipe screen lock and then a pattern lock.
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I'm using the latest CM6 nightly ( so i have the Vanilla lockscreen ) & if i have a pattern set, that is what i see when i press the power button, & after entering the pattern, my phone is unlocked. No need to swipe before or after.
Not sure what ROM you're using, but if it possible to use the Vanilla Lockscreen, you can probably get the same result.
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I'm using the latest CM6 nightly ( so i have the Vanilla lockscreen ) & if i have a pattern set, that is what i see when i press the power button, & after entering the pattern, my phone is unlocked. No need to swipe before or after.
Not sure what ROM you're using, but if it possible to use the Vanilla Lockscreen, you can probably get the same result.
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Stock Sense, unrooted. If you put the pattern on you first have to unlock the screen before you can do the pattern. It is pretty retarded.
My phone's screen turns on occasionally for certain notifications and alerts, and if it isn't for the lockscreen, in the 30 seconds it takes for the screen to turn off again, i can easily butt-dial someone or do something else stupid.
ritzbrie said:
Stock Sense, unrooted. If you put the pattern on you first have to unlock the screen before you can do the pattern. It is pretty retarded.
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It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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Are their any special instructions for doing this? Im on Evo with 2.2 and I still get the swipe screen with the pattern or PIN enabled.
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It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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Are you sure...I don't see such a setting.
lacrossev said:
My phone's screen turns on occasionally for certain notifications and alerts, and if it isn't for the lockscreen, in the 30 seconds it takes for the screen to turn off again, i can easily butt-dial someone or do something else stupid.
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I'm sorry, normally I wouldn't clutter up xda with an off topic post, but I actaully lol'ed at butt-dial - never heard that term before
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It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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I too was unable to get this to work. I saw no setting to disable the slick to unlock.
you would really think it would be near impossible to butt-dial someone on the EVO, but leave it to me to prove to be the exception to the rule, I had the lock screen enabled even!!! and somehow in my pocket I called the same guy like 3 times over on the drive home one day... lucky it was a good friend of mine.
Come on, we all know why: Because the iPhone had one. If every other phone didn't have a lock screen, imagine the kind of elitist harassment we'd get from the Apple camp.
"Oh, your screen just comes on? Strange. My iPhone has a lock screen. I just swipe my finger and it unlocks, it's way cool. I can even put a lock code on it. But, no, your phone is cute. I like the little robot guy."
And so forth.
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you would really think it would be near impossible to butt-dial someone on the EVO, but leave it to me to prove to be the exception to the rule, I had the lock screen enabled even!!! and somehow in my pocket I called the same guy like 3 times over on the drive home one day... lucky it was a good friend of mine.
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wait, what the hell...? You keep your phone in your back pocket? sitting on it?
May the Evo gods have pity on your soul... don't you know it gets its own front pocket, no keys, no coins, no lint, no nothing!
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wait, what the hell...? You keep your phone in your back pocket? sitting on it?
May the Evo gods have pity on your soul... don't you know it gets its own front pocket, no keys, no coins, no lint, no nothing!
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Lol...I dedicated a pocket too. Nothing is allowed in my right front pocket but my phone. I have to force myself because with my g1 I had gotten to the point where I didn't care.
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I too was unable to get this to work. I saw no setting to disable the slick to unlock.
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It may be different depending on which ROM you're running, but I was able to get the pattern unlock without the slide unlock with CM6 RC1 using this method:
- Settings
- Location and Security
- Set up screen lock
- Pattern (add pattern here)

Turn screen off without locking

Guys
My screen timeout is at 1 min and it asks me for a PIN if unused for 10 mins. This all works fine but I want the ability to manually turn off the screen but don't want to input a PIN if I return to it before 10 mins. Is this possible? The key on the right of the phone turns off the screen but also locks the phone
Thanks
sam008 said:
Guys
My screen timeout is at 1 min and it asks me for a PIN if unused for 10 mins. This all works fine but I want the ability to manually turn off the screen but don't want to input a PIN if I return to it before 10 mins. Is this possible? The key on the right of the phone turns off the screen but also locks the phone
Thanks
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Can't you just turn your pin off?
Settings > Security > Screen Lock > None
Or just change the duration before it locks.
jhericurls said:
Can't you just turn your pin off?
Settings > Security > Screen Lock > None
Or just change the duration before it locks.
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He wants a PIN, but only if the phone is locked for over 10min. Hes expressing that this happens if the screen "times out" but not if the screen is intentionally closed.
OP, this is often a feature of custom ROMs (time-outs and lockscreen delays), but the assumption by default is that if you mean to shut the screen off (intentionally use the power btn) then you want it locked, however if you let it time out, you will probably want to turn it on without having to enter a PIN.
How come the best questions don't get answered??
LOL they do get answered but the answers aren't easy ones to follow
I wonder if this actually is a bug. It's mentioned in leaked documents from Verizon as a fix that's coming.
Although I wouldn't bet my life on it.
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Hang on, under Settings, Security, there is an option to "automatically lock # minutes after sleep". That sounds like it may be what we are looking for.
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Flanimal said:
Hang on, under Settings, Security, there is an option to "automatically lock # minutes after sleep". That sounds like it may be what we are looking for.
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Alas no - that's what happens if you let the screen sleep by itself. If you don't want to wait the 30seconds (or whatever) and use the power button to put the screen to sleep it locks the phone at the same time.
I'd like this too but I know of no way to do it.
There was an app that put the screen to sleep without locking it - assuming your phone would auto lock after 10 mins. I used to use it on my N1...
How about not forcing you to have a PIN/password when you set up a VPN on your phone.. what happened to choice Google??
gabster21 said:
How about not forcing you to have a PIN/password when you set up a VPN on your phone.. what happened to choice Google??
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Err .. how about the "P" part in VPN then?
Valynor said:
Err .. how about the "P" part in VPN then?
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Err.. how about no other phone forces you to do this? I have a strong VPN account I use to bypass my country's censorship, no private data involved no matter what the P stands for.
Give me a popup saying "It is recommended to have a PIN bla bla bla.." but don't force it on me. That's taking a page out of Apple's playbook.
gabster21 said:
Err.. how about no other phone forces you to do this? I have a strong VPN account I use to bypass my country's censorship, no private data involved no matter what the P stands for.
Give me a popup saying "It is recommended to have a PIN bla bla bla.." but don't force it on me. That's taking a page out of Apple's playbook.
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Well, ok, your opinion.
I think it's a little bit over the top, though. "Forcing" extra security (maybe) is an incovenience, not giving you freedom of choice like Apple does is something entirely different.
I was really surprised when the auto-locking timeout was not in effect if you shut the phone down yourself. Granted, I can understand why it is like this, sometimes you want an 'instant lock'. But reality is that sometimes you don't.
My HTC Desire locked itself if I did not use it for five minutes, no matter if the screen shut itself off or when I myself did. Sometimes I was in a public transport or queue in store and just shut the screen off, pocketed the device to pay or buy a ticket and then took it out again, continuing where I left off without having to enter the PIN again. Sometimes I used my phone, shut the screen off and remembered that I wanted to do something else too and I could still use the device.
But this is not possible with Galaxy Nexus. It locks whenever I shut the screen off myself despite the set delay. The auto-lock delay only works if the phone's screen is not shut down by the user.
In response to the OP, a feature like that is included in customized ROMS (including the one I am using, AOKP). However, I don't think that specific feature will be available for stock ICS for the time being.
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