Internet Sharing and Charging - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Has anyone been able to use Internet Sharing and have the computer charge the PPC at the same time? I have Black Majik and Vista if that matters at all.

Yup, that exact scenario works for me - ICS via USB and the phone gets charged by my Vista laptop.

Blowfish64 said:
Has anyone been able to use Internet Sharing and have the computer charge the PPC at the same time? I have Black Majik and Vista if that matters at all.
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I use Internet Sharing all the time on my Sony vaio MS XP with my HTC 8525. I does charge the battery at the same time.

In that case, does anyone have any idea why it doesn't charge the phone on my laptop? It charges fine when connected via the Windows Mobile Device Center, but when using Internet Sharing, it won't charge.

Blowfish64 said:
In that case, does anyone have any idea why it doesn't charge the phone on my laptop? It charges fine when connected via the Windows Mobile Device Center, but when using Internet Sharing, it won't charge.
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Works fine for me. Not sure why it isn't for you. Only thing I noticed is if the phone's bandwidth is uses constantly, maybe the charging is lower.I.e. when I have it connected, but am not really using it for significant bandwidth, then it charges faster.

u won't be able to charge and mantained 100% batt power when running internet sharing & with HSDPA connection active

kipe said:
u won't be able to charge and mantained 100% batt power when running internet sharing & with HSDPA connection active
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This is very true. With heavy HSDPA use while using ICS, it is actually quite possible that you can be pulling more power from the phone than you are putting back into it through charging. I've ran a battery from full to dead over the period of a couple hours of constant high-speed downloading while using ICS.

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Battery drain while tethering

Hello all,
I hope someone can help me out, I am using WM6 and it is not rom related because I tried others. While I am connected to the internet through the usb cable using the internet sharing on my 8525 the battery is always low, and it doesnt fully charge unless I disconnect from 3G, EDGE however has no problems and battery state is always at 100%..I just had an episode where my 8525 just died cause of low battery while using 3G...
Is there something I could do that my 8525 will be 100% charged while using 3G via the USB cable or there is no around it and eventually the battery depletes even tho it is hooked up to the usb port??
I mean its connected to usb port and it has constant electricity why does it die?
Thanks a lot...
Any fix?
Have you found a solution for this?

How to turn off USB-charging?

Hello,
is there a way to prevent the phone from charging when connected via USB?
Probably not until the phone is rooted. Why would you want to turn it off though?
I just do not want the phone to be charged every time, I connect it with my PC, especially if it is not necessary.
I'd like the option to choose whether it will be charged or not.
vindiesel said:
I just do not want the phone to be charged every time, I connect it with my PC, especially if it is not necessary.
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why not?
what is there to loose?
Probably, when the phone is connected to a laptop which is NOT connected to a wall charger. This will drain the laptop battery, which you dont want.
CorruptedSanity said:
why not?
what is there to loose?
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makes sense!
That does mae sense, but some people still think phone battery's have a memory effect. They dont now, so repeated charging from a partial charge is fine.
Ah, I was also wondering where this option was. Used it for years on my Windows Mobile devices. Really don't understand why this hasn't been implemented, couldn't be that hard! Any workarounds yet?
And as explained above, it's pretty annoying when you for example travel by train and connect your phone to your (low capacity) netbook for tethering, only to see that is drains your netbook battery almost twice as fast. Without charging, my phone will easily outlive my netbook. So no, I really don't need charging. Bluetooth tether then might be a better option.. Oh wait, this isn't supported either!
But overall I'm more than happy with my Desire and Android!
Update: Just found PdaNET on Market which claims to provide bluetooth tether on non-rooted devices.. I'll check it out

somebody help ? [battery]

does anyone can teach me how to set
do not charge the battery while connected to pc ?
many thanks
hongcwk said:
does anyone can teach me how to set
do not charge the battery while connected to pc ?
many thanks
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You can't. Whatever mode you set it in (Charge, Mass Storage, Sync), it'll still charge.
JohnSteveDoe said:
You can't. Whatever mode you set it in (Charge, Mass Storage, Sync), it'll still charge.
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its too bad
i think if you take your battery out, connect it to your pc it should turn on lyk when connected to charger, you battery cant charge if its not in
Why would you do that?
people should stop worrying about stuff like that.
nimh times are over.
charge it whenever you can. who cares...
Well maybe if you are using a laptop which is not connected to the ac, so you don't want the phone to drain the battery of your laptop?
Flaggie said:
Well maybe if you are using a laptop which is not connected to the ac, so you don't want the phone to drain the battery of your laptop?
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Then don't keep it plugged into the laptop constantly? Move your files and unplug it. It's not like it'll sodomize your laptop's battery if you copy files for 15 mins.
JohnSteveDoe said:
Then don't keep it plugged into the laptop constantly? Move your files and unplug it. It's not like it'll sodomize your laptop's battery if you copy files for 15 mins.
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I got a ]dell xps batteries for my iBook batteryup.com . While the battery itself seems to have held up better than the original apple battery in terms of how long it holds a charge, it doesn't fit in the case as well as an apple battery, and its rubber foot fell off. But in terms of basic functioning I have no complaints. It works fine.
Have you tried using ftp server. Then you wouldnt need to connect to your pc with usb.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Navigation and Car-charger

Just wondered if anyone have come across this.
I've been using Navigation for my PDA as long as I can remember, but after I moved from WiMo devices to Desire, things haven't been working out for me.
TomTom was my first choice on WiMo, but as TomTom does not support Android (yet), I had to look for an alternative.
So far I tested:
CoPilot Live 8
Navigon
MotoNav
Ndrive
Sygic Mobile Maps
Common for all products is this:
When navigating without an external power source, everything works fine - except for CoPilot draining a fully charged battery in less than a coule of hours(!!!)
When navigating with an external powersource, all products - with no exception - will reboot my desire ever so often. Reboots happen in intervals of 5 - 20 minutes. In most cases the Desire will lock up in the start up screen too, and I have to remove the battery. Not good while driving the motorway!
My external powersource is the HTC branded car charger CC C200. I tried with a Nokia charger with the same result. Battery information says 'Charging (AC)'.
In desperation I even tried rooting the device, using Paul's 'Riskfree R6' including a2sd, but to no avail.
Do you think my device is broken, or is this just the way the Desire works?
I searched hi and low, but only found comments on the CoPilot battery drain problem, not Desire rebooting while navigating and connected to car charger.
Any help would be appreciated.
BTW: I also tried google navigation and lo and behold - even works with the car-carger connected. Too bad I don't have a dataplan to support it
PS: I'd hate to go back to my WiMo TouchPro 2..... although I miss the keyboard.....
Cheers
uhdamm
I use Copilot all the time without issue.
First of all, check that your car charger outputs 1A (1000mA). A 500mA charger generally isn't enough to keep the device charged when using GPS navigation.
As to your rebooting problem, I'd suggest flashing a different radio, but it's not something I've heard of before, so I can only make a suggestion rather than provide a definitive solution.
Regards,
Dave
I'm afraid you are experiencing the first signs of a defective motherboard: it heats up and then restarts the device. There are several reports of this if you search the threads and it gets worse over time.
I really hope I'm wrong but you should prepare for it being a possibility (e.g. unroot so you can send it in for repair).
foxmeister said:
First of all, check that your car charger outputs 1A (1000mA). A 500mA charger generally isn't enough to keep the device charged when using GPS navigation.
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Yes, I read that in another thread, and that's why I went for the HTC CC C200 (1500mA).
Which version of CoPilot Live 8 are you using?
pascanu said:
I'm afraid you are experiencing the first signs of a defective motherboard: it heats up and then restarts the device. There are several reports of this if you search the threads and it gets worse over time.
I really hope I'm wrong but you should prepare for it being a possibility (e.g. unroot so you can send it in for repair).
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Thought about that too, but my Desire doesn't feel warm at all, and why would it run just fine, when a charger is not attached? I tried disabling BT/3G/Wireless but same thing happened.
Thanks for your replies guys.
uhdamm said:
Yes, I read that in another thread, and that's why I went for the HTC CC C200 (1500mA).
Which version of CoPilot Live 8 are you using?.
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I'm using 8.0.0.606 and it works fine so far. Haven't tested it on a long trip yet.
What version are you using?
What apps have you got installed, u may have some dodgy interactions
pascanu said:
I'm using 8.0.0.606 and it works fine so far. Haven't tested it on a long trip yet.
What version are you using?
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Same version.
I tested on my way to or from work several times, and within that hour it manages to restart my Desire at least 5 times
Regards
You could install aLogcat from Market and see what exactly happens, what causes your Device to restart. (if you can't figure out what it says you can post your logcat and we will try to help).
I'm using Sygic mobile maps, works perfect with a noname 1000mA car charger.
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I used Google nav. And I have a car charger that I got from Sprint (about $30). Everything works perfectly.
uhdamm said:
Same version.
I tested on my way to or from work several times, and within that hour it manages to restart my Desire at least 5 times
Regards
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Im using version 8.0.0.778. Got it form Alk's website and its the one that shows up on Market.
Im using Copilot also, the official version from Android Market place. I use a cheap Cigarte light to USB adapter and have no issue what so ever.
I say install alogcat and see what it say when it reboots.
cjm1979 said:
Im using version 8.0.0.778. Got the link if you want it.
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I'd appreciate that. Please PM me.
There might have been some bugfixes since '606'.
Cheers
pascanu said:
You could install aLogcat from Market and see what exactly happens, what causes your Device to restart. (if you can't figure out what it says you can post your logcat and we will try to help).
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I installed aLogcat from the market. Looks like a great tool for troubleshooting.
Unfortunately I'm not able to test it on a longer drive, before I'm off for Portugal on my hols Monday. And isn't it ironic - I'll need my Desire to navigate me from the airport to our final destination in a rental-car
I really appreciate your help guys
Enjoy your hols.
I'm using Sygic without any problems. Charging via unversal USB adapter, which I'm guessing provies only 500mA power (while navigating with GPS + BT, the battery doesn't get charged. I think it even loses a few % per hour). Anyway, it is enough for 5+ hours of navigation.
If possible, I would try to use a different charger.
MrUsta said:
I'm using Sygic without any problems. Charging via unversal USB adapter, which I'm guessing provies only 500mA power (while navigating with GPS + BT, the battery doesn't get charged. I think it even loses a few % per hour). Anyway, it is enough for 5+ hours of navigation.
If possible, I would try to use a different charger.
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See HERE and HERE
This weekend i used my Desire with Sygic Mobile Maps 8.06. Had no problems at all on my trip (10 hours continious use each way). Im also using a Nokia car-charger, not sure about the amps on that, but I did'nt have any problems with low battery or anything.
geccco said:
This weekend i used my Desire with Sygic Mobile Maps 8.06. Had no problems at all on my trip (10 hours continious use each way). Im also using a Nokia car-charger, not sure about the amps on that, but I did'nt have any problems with low battery or anything.
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I think the Nokia chargers link out the data wire connections just like your wall charger does and are capable of putting out enough power. If when connected the battery staus says "charging Ac" its got the data wires shorted, If it Says "charging Usb" it thinks its a pc and so limits itself to 500ma so it does not damage the pc.
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cjm1979 said:
I think the Nokia chargers link out the data wire connections just like your wall charger does and are capable of putting out enough power. If when connected the battery staus says "charging Ac" its got the data wires shorted, If it Says "charging Usb" it thinks its a pc and so limits itself to 500ma so it does not damage the pc.
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Hi,
i have a samsung car charger and I also think it's giving out only 500 ma because when I use navigation the phone slowly discharges. if I stop the navigation then it will charge again.
So what I want to do is to short out the 2 middle pins which are the data pins.
I already tested with the multimeter and there is no connection between the 2 data pins in my car charger.
So please tell me :
1. is it safe to short out the data pins on my car charger?
2. what exactly should I see on the phone ? ( when I plug it to the wallcharger its just charging without any message ( unlike usb charge where you have a specific message)
3. If everything will work ok ... how can I be sure that the charger will provide me 1000ma instead of only 500ma ?

Charging while tethering?

Hey, has anybody tethered with this phone (specifically PDANet in my case) and noticed it loses battery? In my experience I've had phones that either gain charge or stay equal, but first time I've seen it lose.
gpgorbosjr said:
Hey, has anybody tethered with this phone (specifically PDANet in my case) and noticed it loses battery? In my experience I've had phones that either gain charge or stay equal, but first time I've seen it lose.
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how are you getting pda net to work. mine wont with verizon, And yes i was loosing the charge just syncing all my accounts.
Pdanet works on tmobile. I noticed a slight loss.

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