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RollR Discussion

I'm starting to get used to this new trackball (RollR), but it is definitely different than normal cursor pads on most devices.
It's OK outside of gameplay. I tried the new Raging Thunder racing game on my P3300, and while it plays just fine performance-wise, the RollR ball is much too sensitive to be used for this game.
I also find it a bit more difficult to scroll in PIE with the new trackball and outside clockwise/counterclockwise scroller.
How does everyone else feel about this new feature?

I feel like I could get used to it, but you dont need to use the mouse all the time. Does anyone know of a way to attach the mouse toggle program to a hardware button.

for me at the beggining the feel was not very good but when i used to it i think now is a very good suprise.i can do all the works just in one hand very easy even serfing internet
another thing that is excellent for me is the wifi connecting distance.now i can go also to my second floor of my apartment and have internet connection
without a problem and this is something i could not do with my qtek 9000
so far i,m very happy for the device.
*my english is not very good hope you understand me

neptune said:
I feel like I could get used to it, but you dont need to use the mouse all the time. Does anyone know of a way to attach the mouse toggle program to a hardware button.
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Copy the file \Windows\MouseMode.exe and paste a shortcut in the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs. Then go to Start - Settings - Buttons and set it on a hardware button

I'm definitely getting used to it after almost a week. Game playing is still a challenge with the sensitivity of this ball compared to a regular pad, though.

mindk33p3r said:
Copy the file \Windows\MouseMode.exe and paste a shortcut in the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs. Then go to Start - Settings - Buttons and set it on a hardware button
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Thanks for the suggestion, but is there any way to skip that screen where you have to make an extra click. Its no so much a deal when activating the mouse, only when trying to turn it off.

What do you guys think of the scroll ring, or whatever the chrome part is called?
I really like using it to scroll through all of the messages in my inbox, or when browsing web pages, but it doesn't always work as expected. Some times it scrolls smoothly, and other times it jumps to the next link. Anybody figured this out?

If you go into HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet8 you can change the value of CmdLine to SETMOUSEMODE and the icon in the cpl will start and stop with one press.

mixmaven said:
If you go into HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet8 you can change the value of CmdLine to SETMOUSEMODE and the icon in the cpl will start and stop with one press.
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great my friend thanks a lot for that.....
now can you tell me how can we change the size of the cursor and put a smaller one?

To Dinario
I'am using it for 2 days and I agree with you. I don't find the wheel very useful and in fact I only use track ball with is more convenient with its 4 directions.
According to me, the wheel is only design for big jumps, and the trackball is more efficient for small jumps. But maybe in a few days we will take full control of this alien

mixmaven said:
If you go into HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet8 you can change the value of CmdLine to SETMOUSEMODE and the icon in the cpl will start and stop with one press.
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I did that instead :
- I Created a shortcut "mousemode.lnk" into \windows\start\programs (for my french one it is "\windows\menu demarrer\programmes")
- I edited the shortcut mousemode.lnk as below : "\windows\mousemode.exe" SETMOUSEMODE
Now, I can quickly activate/deactivate the mouse mode by cliking the icon, and I still can edit the mouse settings in the control panel.

I can activate it with one click of the icon, but how do i do the same by clicking a hardware button. I've went into settings/buttons and assigned a key, but when i press it only takes you to the config page where you have check enable.
Has anyone any ideas please?
Thanks,
BPP

I hate exactly the same problem, if someone can help. Thanks

Big Purple Penguin said:
I can activate it with one click of the icon, but how do i do the same by clicking a hardware button. I've went into settings/buttons and assigned a key, but when i press it only takes you to the config page where you have check enable.
Has anyone any ideas please?
Thanks,
BPP
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You must write inside the register
HKLM-software-microsoft-shell-keys
i.e. 40c1 then ab(default)
["\Windows\MouseMode.exe" SETMOUSEMODE] without the []

What registry program is used to do this?
mixmaven said:
If you go into HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet8 you can change the value of CmdLine to SETMOUSEMODE and the icon in the cpl will start and stop with one press.
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What registry program is used to do this?

str8upn2 said:
What registry program is used to do this?
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resco explorer
resco registry

Anyone knows how i can set rollr sensibility in "d-pad mode"?

does anybody know how to disable rollr on HTC P3300 by registry trick? I have some problems with it - sometimes it becomes mad and starts to scrolling the screen even when I am not touching it. It is absolutely impossible for me. Any help appreciated.

I thought I should share how I make use of the ring and the ball.
The wheel basically moves the highlighting position up and down on the screen (there is no left and right movement). When the mouse cursor is enabled, pressing the ball will mean pressing the location where the mouse pointer is pointing (not where highlighted). Hence, I am using a button-mapping software (AEBPlus) to get the benefits of both world:
- OK button becomes "enter"
- long pressing OK button becomes "close application"
- right softkey button becomes "move cursor to right"
- left softkey button becomes "move cursor to left"
- media key single press becomes left softkey
- comm manager key single press becomes right softkey
And, I have the mouse cursor always enabled. Generally moving the highlighting position by the wheel is easier than the mouse.
Hence, with this setup, I use the wheel most of the time to move the highlighting position to where I want and then I press the OK button to select it. When typing text, I use the right/left button to move around the typing position for editing, deletion, etc. I will use the mouse to point to those location where highlight can't go to, for instance, the input pad, or those icons at the top task bar ...
Therefore, it is now almost one-handed operation and I hardly need the stylus.

Cursor colours?
Anyone know how to change the colour/size of the arrow?

Any working Button Mapper?

Hi!
Is it somebody using any kind of Button Mapper? And how it works for you?
I have tryied few:
Vito Button Mapper didn't work at all.
Dabble launcher ... this soft can see only 4btns: GPS, Recording, Internet and Camera (Recording didn't work properly, gives me some kind of mistake with buttons.exe)
And last one what I tried it was AE Button Plus (but I didn’t have enough time to take a closer look on it)
So, what is you experience? Any luck?

j0kkk3r said:
Hi!
Is it somebody using any kind of Button Mapper? And how it works for you?
I have tryied few:
Vito Button Mapper didn't work at all.
Dabble launcher ... this soft can see only 4btns: GPS, Recording, Internet and Camera (Recording didn't work properly, gives me some kind of mistake with buttons.exe)
And last one what I tried it was AE Button Plus (but I didn’t have enough time to take a closer look on it)
So, what is you experience? Any luck?
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In the past for the S200 (PROPHET ) we used a very nice applet, Softkey applet.
I am wondering if anyone has used that on the ARTEMIS.

Gerigo-Greece said:
In the past for the S200 (PROPHET ) we used a very nice applet, Softkey applet.
I am wondering if anyone has used that on the ARTEMIS.
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Try it yourself and report to the forum

Have tried it. Softkey Applet That is and it works nicely on the ARTEMIS.
The applet can be found on this forum under another link.(Prophet-Softkeys)

No, I am not looking for soft key applet ... My Soft keys working fine (and I have already installed soft for it, it comes in the rom) I can change them as I want ... But the question was: That I want to find soft which gives you opportunity to do a: Double click, Press and hold and etc.
Thanks ...

AE button plus
Here's an older reply of mine to a similar request for a button mapper.
Must have application for onehanders is a small utility called AE Button Plus at http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php. This allows you to map any number of system functions and applications to buttons (each button can acquire 3 more functions by double, triple and long press). For instance, I have mapped the mouse courser to a double click of a button. I have also mapped my ok button so that it really closes applications on a long press.
I know I sound like a sales rep but I am just a appreciative user.

apap said:
Here's an older reply of mine to a similar request for a button mapper.
Must have application for onehanders is a small utility called AE Button Plus at http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php. This allows you to map any number of system functions and applications to buttons (each button can acquire 3 more functions by double, triple and long press). For instance, I have mapped the mouse courser to a double click of a button. I have also mapped my ok button so that it really closes applications on a long press.
I know I sound like a sales rep but I am just a appreciative user.
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Yes, I have tryed it ... but what about "Win" buttoon? What eppening when you press it? On my device its gives me button.exe mistake ... did you had any problem with that soft?
Cheers

j0kkk3r said:
Yes, I have tryed it ... but what about "Win" buttoon? What eppening when you press it? On my device its gives me button.exe mistake ... did you had any problem with that soft?
Cheers
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jokkk3r - You are getting the buttons.exe error because you had Vito
Button Mapper installed at one time. I assume that you uninstalled it after you found that it didn't work (I did the same) - however, even after uninstall of Vito, any button that is not remapped by another app or by you through the standard WM5 button console will be stuck with the registry values that were assigned by Vito. So when that button is pressed again, the registry is telling it to look for the Vito software (called buttons.exe) that you have uninstalled. Hence, the error "buttons.exe not found."
Long story short, just disable any button mapping app you have running and then use the WM5 console to remap all problem buttons (even if it looks like they are already set.) Then start using your button mapping app again and the error should be gone.
By the way, I had the same problem with my record button (on press and hold) with Double Launcher. Single press, double press, and triple press would work, but press-and-hold would give me the error. That's how I found this solution. I still use Double Launcher despite the fact that it only sees 4 buttons (4x4=16 mappings is more than enough for me to try to remember! ) As I said - to get the press and hold function to work, you have to first disable DL and remap that function to whatever you want within WM5 - then use DL to remap the other 15 functions and the one you mapped in WM5 should remain (just don't assign anything to record button press-and-hold within DL)

Have tried it. Softkey Applet That is and it works nicely on the ARTEMIS.
The applet can be found on this forum under another link.(Prophet-Softkeys)

psargent said:
jokkk3r - You are getting the buttons.exe error because you had Vito
Button Mapper installed at one time. I assume that you uninstalled it after you found that it didn't work (I did the same) - however, even after uninstall of Vito, any button that is not remapped by another app or by you through the standard WM5 button console will be stuck with the registry values that were assigned by Vito. So when that button is pressed again, the registry is telling it to look for the Vito software (called buttons.exe) that you have uninstalled. Hence, the error "buttons.exe not found."
Long story short, just disable any button mapping app you have running and then use the WM5 console to remap all problem buttons (even if it looks like they are already set.) Then start using your button mapping app again and the error should be gone.
By the way, I had the same problem with my record button (on press and hold) with Double Launcher. Single press, double press, and triple press would work, but press-and-hold would give me the error. That's how I found this solution. I still use Double Launcher despite the fact that it only sees 4 buttons (4x4=16 mappings is more than enough for me to try to remember! ) As I said - to get the press and hold function to work, you have to first disable DL and remap that function to whatever you want within WM5 - then use DL to remap the other 15 functions and the one you mapped in WM5 should remain (just don't assign anything to record button press-and-hold within DL)
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psargent I am really appreciating it. It’s solved my problem, and even the recording button doing everything what I need You are the man 
Cheers ...

SPB pocket plus
softkey applet lets you change only 2 soft buttons
And SPB pocket plus do the rest of work - 6 other buttons are remmapable
And SPB plus also give you the really close applications button and many many more...
I`m using softkeya applet + spb pocket plus - it`s great
Instead of IE I mapped the alt-tab button
Instead of GPS - close app button
Instead of camera at the right side - rotate screen
Left soft key - Explorer
Right soft key - Contacts

j0kkk3r said:
psargent I am really appreciating it. It’s solved my problem, and even the recording button doing everything what I need You are the man 
Cheers ...
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Glad to help! Have a great day!

OK BUtton?

I have searched and read almost every post regarding remapping of ok button.
Can anybody tell me if ok button on front side of hermes near call buttons and softkeys be remapped.
I am aeb buttons but it doesnt have option for it?
any thing else i can try?

I think ae buttons have the option to do what you want...
When you go to the configuration window where you can set the funtion to each button even that the front ok button is not listed there is an option of custom button or something like that, select that option, then pres the button you want (the fron ok) and then asign the function you would like to add...
Sorry I could not be more detailed but I only use this software for very few time because when instaled, the scroll wheel didn't respond...
hope it helps...
Regards
Mablan

As far as I know, nobody has published a way to do this. However, If you havent already, there is a way to hack the PTT button, which I use to change the volume. You can assign any function that you want for buttons 1-5 @ start-->settings-->personal-->buttons. There is also a cab in the hermes section to remap your softkeys. You may want to talk to Sleuth255 (he was the one who hacked the PTT) to see if there is a way to do this for the ok button.

mablan said:
I think ae buttons have the option to do what you want...
When you go to the configuration window where you can set the funtion to each button even that the front ok button is not listed there is an option of custom button or something like that, select that option, then pres the button you want (the fron ok) and then asign the function you would like to add...
Sorry I could not be more detailed but I only use this software for very few time because when instaled, the scroll wheel didn't respond...
hope it helps...
Regards
Mablan
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Worked like a charm
100x thanx 2 u
i know this forum rocks

hi guys, i am also looking for something similar to this. i have noticed that when i press the ok button on the front, or on the keyboard that it only minimises the program rather than closing it. now the background behind that is i have HTC X button on LVSW 3.30.0.9 (soon to be 3.30.2.1). and that is set to close the program.
EDIT: i stand corrected. i just googled ae button and noticed it was a program. i shall try that and see how it goes.

zmit said:
hi guys, i am also looking for something similar to this. i have noticed that when i press the ok button on the front, or on the keyboard that it only minimises the program rather than closing it. now the background behind that is i have HTC X button on LVSW 3.30.0.9 (soon to be 3.30.2.1). and that is set to close the program.
EDIT: i stand corrected. i just googled ae button and noticed it was a program. i shall try that and see how it goes.
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I have been looking for something to do this since the Hermes dropped.. I would love to find a way to make a press on OK minimize the app and a hold on it to close the app.. Still nothing?
Edit: I second the edit above...

that one may be possible with a combination of x button and ae button.... i havent tried it and am still trying things with ae button. but it may be possible.

ok. i am using ae button now and have noticed a few things.
one. the memory manager is pretty cool
two. when i go to add the front ok button above the 'end' key, it comes up with button #4075. when i try to remap that as 'close active application' it does nothing. not even minimise it.
three. it works when i remap the internet key to 'close active application' it closes it completely.
four. the same happens when i add and try to remap the ok button on the keyboard to the same thing.
and five. i notice that the button #4075. the ok button on the front, says 'change volume or.... 1. close active application'
which is odd.
the rest of the remapping works well. except for added the ok buttons.

I780 and Smartkeys / AEButton Plus probelm

Hi, I recently bougth a Samsung i780 (italian unbranded), I would like to use the volume buttons as scroller, I tried both Aebutton and Smartkeys and both are working almost fine.
Almost...
With both the utility the smartphone hangs whenever I launch the camera app, no matter if I use a program shortcut or the HW button, no matter if the default camera HWbutton is enabled or not.
Any other user faced this problem ?
Any workaround found ?
Any other sw I can use ?
Thanks in advance.

hi. I have had EXACTLY the same problem as I have tried to do exactly what you have done with the volume buttons. sometimes it works and sometimes not. . (actually I couldn't figure out what was making the camera hang - u think its aebutton: could be...). the i780 is a great device, basically my tytn ii but faster. slimmer and a far better form factor. mouse ideas is novel but it does miss the directional arrow buttons.
anyway. I haven't figured out a fix yet, just wanted to show my support for your post!

Yep !
Exactly the same here ! Hope I will find a software that works !

Thanks for your interest, i hope some more skilled user(s) can help us to solve the problem.
In the meantime I'm go to ask some help to Alexander Eltsin (the author of AeBUTTON PLUS), but I'm afraid that the response will be the same as when I asked about the the treo 750 problem (no device in my hand, not a lot I can do).

on my treo 650 and 680 i could assign a shortcut to ANY key on my keyboard (long pusdh). Anyone know which software can do this?

PQZ II, a freeware, can remap buttons, works on volume and the camera button as ok, and the camera keeps on working!! plus you can get more then one set of remapping using assigned alt and ctrl keys, really nice app, although buttons plus double, tripple press is great.
Also is there a solution to the mouse button not doing a long press to the "right click" menu like the regular dpad middle button or stylus long press? it's really annoying samsung not adding that, there are no direction keys so by default you cant even use the soft menu button because once you make a file it is executed.... nm PQZ solves this with the volume button, plus the annoying problem that the volume button works while device locked in pocket is also solved by this.

could you explain if its possible to remap the volume keys, using them has scroll???

sttifler said:
could you explain if its possible to remap the volume keys, using them has scroll???
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I think that if you read the first post you get the answer.

Has anyone got pqz working on samsung i780 yet? none of the cabs work on my device!
If you got it working could you please tell me which cab you used?

EwoutK said:
Has anyone got pqz working on samsung i780 yet? none of the cabs work on my device!
If you got it working could you please tell me which cab you used?
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the one for hermes install and works... I'm trying to set it up at the moment...

sevet said:
PQZ II, a freeware, can remap buttons, works on volume and the camera button as ok, and the camera keeps on working!! plus you can get more then one set of remapping using assigned alt and ctrl keys, really nice app, although buttons plus double, tripple press is great.
Also is there a solution to the mouse button not doing a long press to the "right click" menu like the regular dpad middle button or stylus long press? it's really annoying samsung not adding that, there are no direction keys so by default you cant even use the soft menu button because once you make a file it is executed.... nm PQZ solves this with the volume button, plus the annoying problem that the volume button works while device locked in pocket is also solved by this.
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can you show us how to configure it to remap volume keys to up/down?

Tested multiple version of PQz - it works and seem to be really powerful - unfortunately it is not able to catch the volume up/down on the I780. Any other key is recognized except volume up/down....

Ok managed to make it work (basically I've missed the flag to enable use of volume buttons).
I can confirm it works and doesn't broke the camera button!!
thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!

What version do i install? Can anyone help me configure the aplication?
Many Thks

thering said:
What version do i install? Can anyone help me configure the aplication?
Many Thks
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Hi,
The 0.0.8c version did not work but the 0.0.8 works very well on the i780 !!
It seems to be a very good software, with many possibilities (like AE button plus, perhaps with even more options) and it seems to take less memory
Very good, very cool.
Tks to sevet for your link ;
Regards

anyone experience many crash of PqzII?

How can i configure the volume keys to do up an down?
Thks

thering said:
How can i configure the volume keys to do up an down?
Thks
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Configure the apps (you can launch PQzII_Setup in the installation folder):
- flag "enalbe volume key convert" in the Window section
- in the Code section flag "use this section" and add a mapping IN= VOL-U => OUT=UP, IN=VOL-D => OUT=DOWN

PQZ II is not working at all on my device! The only thing I get is a little white square wich opens in front on my device...
Anyone who has a clue how to fix this?

just read the docs....
you have to tap on the square until a menu popup

Lock Device?

Does anyone know if it is possible to get the Lock Device button back somewhere on the Home screen? TF3D seems to block it.
I can't use the powerbutton to lock the device cause it also seems 'suspend' running programs like CorePlayer, HTC FM Radio and TomTom 7.

Do a long Press on the End Call button

Yay! Thanks alot!
Case of RTFM I guess

I don't care for the long press. It's far more cumbersome than an actual shortcut. Any cabs out there to give us an actual icon/shortcut to put on the Programs tab of Sense? Like in the Energy ROM's? Surely he can't be the ONLY person to have access to such! I NEEDS IT!
J

use softkeymanger to change a softkey on your phone. You are using diamond mode in the software.

RMU said:
Do a long Press on the End Call button
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Unless of course you remap that button. On my device I have it set to shut off the 3G data connection. But I have mapped the OK button to lock the phone.

Rhodium500 said:
use softkeymanger to change a softkey on your phone. You are using diamond mode in the software.
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That won't work because there is no shortcut to point the software to. That's kinda the point of my post: Is there a cab which will make a freakin' icon for Lock Device?
J

IronManDS said:
That won't work because there is no shortcut to point the software to. That's kinda the point of my post: Is there a cab which will make a freakin' icon for Lock Device?
J
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I don't know if you want to pay some money, but SPB Plus will create shortcuts that lock the phone. Of course, it also allows you to remap the buttons... but it isn't freeware.

IronManDS said:
That won't work because there is no shortcut to point the software to. That's kinda the point of my post: Is there a cab which will make a freakin' icon for Lock Device?
J
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Yes there is search for a cab called "Lock Device" if you can't find it PM me i'll email it to you. Its pretty cool because you can set it to automatically lock and it also includes a shortcut that you can assign to any button.

here is the cab. I take no credit for it.

Yay!!
Thanks, my friend! Hideous icons!! HAHA. But, it gets the job done and I can always make a prettier icon.
Thanks again!
J