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Can someone please share their experience.
I am interrested to know how the devices perform in the Corporate install of the O2 and the JasJar.
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
The corporate with the code 0506?
Is the pocket MSN there on that configuration?
Which one is the most generic config?
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
skearon said:
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
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Yes,you can flash any ROM to your Jasjar , you will lose your setting email..etc,others same as new.
I have just loaded my MDA PRO with the O2 ROM, and tryed all the possible installs (basic, Corporate with code 0506 and personal)
Only the Corporate one is really customisation free. I have myself bypassed the extended_ROM so now I have run only one cab the Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB which is responcible for the video call. Strangely enough I have the same scin in the dialer as I had in the JasJar ROM...
Also as mentioned by... that by O2 ROM the splash screen is not installed it is not true, as right after the upgrade to the O2 ROM and the reset you see the O2 splash screen, which is untill now the nicest looking splash screen.
What I can say after 2 hours of using the O2 ROM is the following:
1. The amount of free program memory after reset is the same as by JasJar ROM.
2. The device is at least twice as fast as with the JasJar ROM.
Conclusion for now I am much happier with the O2 ROM. Much more stable and responsive.
As I am using Jasjar and after your comments I am considering moving to o2 could you tell me how you configured your Jasjar? Specifically, I am using my jasjar without the extended rom except for the video dialler and the bluetooth patch. It is generally running well except for the need to hard reset once in a while. When comparing with the O2 were you also using Jasjar without extenstion?
Thanks, apap
Having used both ROMs, I think they're essentially the same ROM with a few minor branding cosmetic mods... The two ROMs are only dated 2 wks apart and doubt there are any major differences.
To be honest, I couldn't find any performance gain or loose using either one of them and the O2 ROM seem to be slightly smaller in size (maybe due to the additional Imate games/themes etc?) So after going Imate ROM with O2 extended ROM, I went back to all O2 ROM..
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
OK boys and girls...
I have tryed the O2 ROM the whole day yesterday and last night late reverted to JasJar ROM. Reason: maybe I did something wrong but in corporate install of the O2 ROM with the code 0506 but I had no pdf reader which is unfortunately a crucial software for me. I have tried to install it from the cabs of the O2 ROM and from JasJar ROM but it would not work. Of course the solution might be to get a cracked version. But that fact pissed me off so much that I have loudly cursed O2 and reverted to JasJar.
Observations: I have noticed that O2 ROM has more program memory when you reset the device but once you use the thing the amount of program ROM is the same as in JasJar. So the fact that just after the soft reset there is more ROM is actually not interresting. I also found that in the O2 ROM there is a problem with the start menu opening up first time after a soft reset (If you soft reset the device and then for the first time click on start it takes 10-13 seconds to open it up) and this issue was the biggest issue for me to change to O2 ROM. Pocket MSN seemed to work faster and is more responsive on the O2 and maybe overal performance is a little notch better then JasJar. The Bootup Splash screen on the O2 is much nicer then on JasJar it is really sharp and cool
Conclusions: If you like experimenting try out the O2 ROM because you get to see also (if you try out the Personal install) how badly an operator can F*** up the device, it is beyond my understanding but it is hideous their Launch software, the screen looks like a battle field and I get dizzy looking at it, the task manager which it installs is such a crap only due to a fact that once you close all the progs with the task manager the task manager is still running so to close it too you have to go to settings ->system->memory and close it from there. I can understand that the task manager which you can use from your today screen has to be running in order to work but this task manager you have to start by going to programs and starting it manually, It is comepletely beyond me what is the purpose of such a task manger, but hey maybe I am STUPID ???
The battery icon moved next to the start I can understand the handyness of this, but the O2 icon which does not do anything is also comepletely beyond my understanding. Plus when changing the screen orientation the battery and the O2 icons suddenly get a darker background and it looks like it hangs, but it only looks like it the device does not hang, but it is still an ugly sight to see...
If you opt for the Corporate install with the 0506 code I think you are fine the machine performs as it should, and is very stable, no O2 annoyances and no O2 **** to be seen apart from a couple of icons in the Programs. One of them is the O2 install which I beleive supposed to allow you to change your install type, without making a hard reset, but of course it only works in one direction, meaning that if you have a corporate install with the code 0506 and you want to change to standard or to personal it will work but if you are running the standard and want to go back to corporate or if you are runnning the Personal (full featuer O2) and want to change to standard it will not work. After playing around with that I have found that my simmanager and enroller icons dissapeared, but I was able to get it back by running one of the cabs. it was different with the pdf reader, since I need one I have decided to run that O2 install type thingy and chose first standard install which did not bring the pdf back, and then I have chosen the personal install which would mean that I should have now everything on it , the pdf icon was there but alais the pdf did not work I kept on getting an error.
One more thing when you install the CORP version the dialer skin is the same as by the JasJar so I beleive that that is the generic skin, since the O2 Dialer skin is very vague the buttons are beautiful, but have to much light in them so it is difficult to see the letters
SO I am back to JasJar ROM and I beleive will stick to it for a while.
The progs I run :
TT5.1
Resco Explorer
Skype 1.2 beta
Backgammon
Total commander
All installed on the storage card
I hope this not too boring and helps folks here.
srmz said:
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
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I have done it and reverted back to the JasJasr rom no problems and I have an MDA PRO, so I am even further way from home.
Follow this thread to learn what are the procedures for upgrading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Good luck
The Exec ROM (basic and Corporate) do not suffer from a buggy Messaging app on the JJ ROM. The JJ ROM can cause the JJ to freeze on SMS notification and can crash when receiving emails over UMTS.
You mean the imate email app ?? or the bult in functionality. Because I do not have those symptoms. and I have received only today already about 12 sms messages.
About receiving the e-mail overUMTS: I use exchange active sync over UMTS and works like a charm without any problems...Maybe it freezes when using pop mail or imap? What is your configuration ?
And once again by the "buggy messaging app" you mean the imate e-mail??
Can someone confirm the presence of MSN and PDF inthe O2 Corporate mode ????
Thanx
Jasjar or O2?
I have also been wondering whether to try O2. Overall, after many trials I am quite satisfied with Jasjar. I have not installed extended rom except for bluetooth patch and smardialer cabs. I am running: pocketinformant, magicbutton, repligo, netfront 3.3, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, microsoft voice command. I have done a number of recommended register tweaks. I have also updated the radio to 1.04.
Speed is good.
Remaining problems: Once in a while I need to soft reset to overcome freezes. My main problem now is that I cannot install new programs or updates, nor can I remove programs.
It would be useful to find out how others are dealing with these problems and whether thos running O2 corporate are confronting similar problems.
Should I switch to O2 corporate? There seem to be conflicting views on the matter.
thanks, apap
Churchill:
You wrote a few things about Extended ROMs, Code 0506 (for o2 Corp. mode?), and about bypassing the extended ROMs.
Also there was a mention of bluetooth and radio Cabs...
I would be obliged if you could elaborate and explain them to me.
I have the o2 Exec and would like to experiemnt with the corp. mode since I find that in personal mode it freezes up all too often (not enough memory I guess...) but I wouldn't like to loose essential functionality by changing my ROM.
Thanks in advance
Well I am right now updating my MDA PRo from JasJar Rom to O2 ROM, since I still think the O2 ROM was a notch faster in the corporate mode.
I would not advice you to bypass the extended rom install as I found that some things do not work properly like the sim manager and pdf.
You are fine with the Corporate mode since it is the cleanest of all options including the JasJar.
Also Pocket MSN is more responsive in the O2 corporate mode, then with JasJar ROM.
So just go ahead and do a hard reset and choose corporate mode with the code 0506.
By the Way as I have already mentioned earlier the Boot splash screen of O2 is the best till now. Funny is that I was called by T-Mobile representative a couple of days ago and asked what I think about the MDA PRO. I have told him that MDA PRO with t-mobile customization is history by me and I am running JasJar. He warned me that if something happens to my device they can not help me now since there is no t-mobile rom available to flash it with (I do not understand that where is the release rom? did they loose it or something?) but I am still eligible for my 2 year warranty. He also asked why I have switched to JasJar, I have told him that the t-mobile customisation is crap and that the device was slow and unstable. He confirmed that and also saysd that this is exactly the reason why he is contacting me, since they aparently received a threat from one of the major consumer organisations in the netherlands. So he sayd that they are verifying the isue with the users and it does not look good since everybody complains. So hopefully t-mobile will release new rom soon...
Funny is that I have mentioned to him that I hate the hideous colors and boot splash screen of t-mobile rom, his answere was that the boot splash screen they are extremely proud of since it took a long time to come up with the design.... DUDE how long can it take to come up with something so hideous?
Anyhow....
P.S. I let you guys know how is my MDA PRo with O2 ROM
Adobe acrobat reader is available freely from the adobe site, in the same way as their readers always are:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html
HTH
The O2 Exec has OS 1.13.48, which has a memory leak bug. Commontime mNotes synchronization cannot free the memory after use, so a 3rd consecutive sync empties out all remaining RAM. This was resolved in OS version 1.13.53, which is on the Jasjar.
Yes, the Exec ROM seems a tad faster, but at least for me the memory leak is decisive for the Jasjar ROM.
Jasjar or O2?
Wiz, have you reverted to Jasjar? Also, I do not quite understand the memory leak problem. Does this mean that there is a danger of losing note information? Finally, any suggestions on how to resolve the inability to add new programs? Does this problem occur only with Jasjar?
Thanks, apap
Hi there
Bored of scrolling through massive threads, maybe it's time we separate some of the issues now. Starting with...
Voicemail indicators not working correctly in WM6.
So, what are your experiences? If yours work, let us know, if not, post what happens.
I'm on Orange UK and I get an SMS from '[email protected]' and '^@' to activate/deactivate the indicator respectively.
I've been googling, and haven't found much about these messages. I think they're supposed to be Class 0 but not sure. Does anyone know which part of the OS is in charge of sorting them out and interpreting them?
Maybe this is a simple reg setting that's missing? Could someone with WM5 and on an operator using vmail notifications run a search through their registry for '[email protected]' and '^@'?
Cheers
joehood said:
Hi there
Bored of scrolling through massive threads, maybe it's time we separate some of the issues now. Starting with...
Voicemail indicators not working correctly in WM6.
So, what are your experiences? If yours work, let us know, if not, post what happens.
I'm on Orange UK and I get an SMS from '[email protected]' and '^@' to activate/deactivate the indicator respectively.
I've been googling, and haven't found much about these messages. I think they're supposed to be Class 0 but not sure. Does anyone know which part of the OS is in charge of sorting them out and interpreting them?
Maybe this is a simple reg setting that's missing? Could someone with WM5 and on an operator using vmail notifications run a search through their registry for '[email protected]' and '^@'?
Cheers
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I get a different character, for deactivate - its a full size triangle. Again, on Orange UK.
I'll try and run thru installing all the WM5 orange cabs to test on Sun - I've got our Wedding celebration party tommorow! I'll get my ass kicked if I go near it before then.......
Congratulations!
Yeah I get the same full triangle, sorry. I've seen it abbreviated to ^ on a couple of other forums so used that, but it is actually a complete triangle.(Alpha symbol?)
joehood said:
Hi there
Bored of scrolling through massive threads, maybe it's time we separate some of the issues now. Starting with...
Voicemail indicators not working correctly in WM6.
So, what are your experiences? If yours work, let us know, if not, post what happens.
I'm on Orange UK and I get an SMS from '[email protected]' and '^@' to activate/deactivate the indicator respectively.
I've been googling, and haven't found much about these messages. I think they're supposed to be Class 0 but not sure. Does anyone know which part of the OS is in charge of sorting them out and interpreting them?
Maybe this is a simple reg setting that's missing? Could someone with WM5 and on an operator using vmail notifications run a search through their registry for '[email protected]' and '^@'?
Cheers
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Yep, I have exactly the same problem with the XDA-Live 0.1 ROM. Using Orange UK.
Couldn't delete the second message. I kept getting a message about the a SIM error. Reboot of the phone and the message had gone.
Anyone worked out a fix?
No Voice Mail
Hi all,
I have the same issue with Orange UK as the rest of you. I am supprised that no one has a solution yet. Will keep an eye on this post for a fix !
I cant spend any time on this at the moment.
Setting [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\vmail\Line1\Unread]
"Count"=dword:00000000
clears the notification..
Also once in this state I dont get the initial text, but I do get the vm icon! Something keeps setting the count value to -1 which seems to get it messed up.
Cant find out what processes the notification, but it looks like its something in the base of wm5 as non of the ext rom programs seem to have any effect.
I have no problems with new voice mail indicators, missed call, new sms notifications, etc. All show up correctly. Using Cingular/AT&T..
Maybe the issue is only orange based on the previous comments???
Thanks eagle 1.
If anyone has voicemail notifications working on Orange in WM6 please post, as I'll know I'm doing something wrong.
I've tried all the customisation cabs and nothing's worked so far.
The problem is that the current WM6 rom does not support CPHS this is a set of commands that include the MWI (Message Waiting Indicator), Orange are the only provider in the UL using this feature. I feel the issue is that the bases ROM currently being used by the chef is not a final RTM of WM6 as it is missing a few features that the RTM should have. I used to have the issue when upgrading Nokia roms but with those it was a simple fix through LogoManager.
For more info on CPHS see http://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=220
Thanks, that's great that we have an answer now to why it doesn't work. I guess the obvious thing to do is just wait until the final ROM's released, unless anyone with a bit more knorr-how knows of a way to add CPHS features to WM6...
Can someone try this workaround.....
http://www.miousers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=144&highlight=dialmonitored
Just dropping by, I'm flat out at work, cant spend any time on this at the moment, but stumbled over the above...This allows the device to clear the count as soon as you dial your VM, not pretty, but a temp fix...(assuming it works!)
(also found this on msdn..... http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa457989.aspx)
and perhaps even editing CEMAIL.VOL may be another route....
This isn't a problem with all versions of WM6.
As well as a SPV M3100 (Hermes) I also have a SPVM5000 (Universal) also on Orange and the notifications work perfectly on the Universal.
SPV M3100 - XDA Live 0.10
SPV M5000 - Midget 0.1
I'll try to compare registry settings see if I can spot anything obvious
One thought as to the VoiceMail indicator and differences between Universal & Hermes versions of WM6.
I was wondering if this is something that is dependant on the radio rom.
I am using the Orange radio rom on my Universal but as far as the Hermes is concerned I've left it with the 1.16.00.00 rom which I think was from prof's SIM & CID unlocker v2a
Interesting...
That could be it. Frustratingly, I updated my radio ROM at the same time as installing WM6 so I can't isolate the problem. I'm using the 1.35 radio ROM that's on the FTP. I suppose this could be where orange make their voicemail customisations.
Is anyone running an Orange radio ROM with WM6? Can you please post your success with voicemail notifications?
I am on WMXL 0.2 and left my radio on the original orange radio of 1.06.00
Since upgrading to WMXL 0.1 and 0.2 I have NOT had the spool icon - but have received the system sms's. So I don't think its radio dependant.
I haven't however run any of the orange ext rom cabs as one or more of them made my wmxl 0.1 unstable - whereas loading wmxl 0.2 and then manually entering data connections etc has given me a fast stable device (without voicemail spool icon!).
Bump......
Anyone had any luck with this yet?
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This isn't a problem with all versions of WM6.
As well as a SPV M3100 (Hermes) I also have a SPVM5000 (Universal) also on Orange and the notifications work perfectly on the Universal.
SPV M3100 - XDA Live 0.10
SPV M5000 - Midget 0.1
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Could you post or PM me the 'sms_providers.dll' file from the windows directory on your SPVM5000 so I can compare it to the one on the M3100 - I think this may be where the problem lies
Looks like it is down to the version of sms_providers.dll as also reported here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299072&page=2
I'll post the file from the SPV M5000 rom if still needed(They are of different size) but it will be after the weekend when I'm back home.
See post #16 from olipro on this thread, all sorted now and working perfectly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299072&page=2
You do need the developer certs installed to use the fix though (link in the thread) and you may have to rename the new dll and do some registry editing - all the info you need is in the linked thread.
guys,
when I moved from WM5 to WM6 (both official ROMs), my device ID appeared to change (assumption by virtue of the fact it changed in TomTom 6).
Can anyone else confirm they have seen this? I'm still waiting for HTC UK support to contact me. ABout a week now.
I thought it might be helpful to see who has seen this (regardless of ROM details).
Hi,
Yes, all time you Flash your PPC with new Rom, Your Device ID change, and Tomtom need to be change too (Trafic, SN, etc...)
If you have Tomtom Trafic option, go to tomtom site to change your device id, it's work fine.
As far as I know, it is only the DOPOD, and DOPOD based ROMs that have this problem, and it is a bug in the firmware. The very latest DOPOD release has apparently fixed it- so Mun's Indigo Full which uses the latest ROM is OK, but Lite shows the problem.
Device ID's are a complex matter. Some are based on the IMEI, some derived from the ROM version and some by other means. TomTom and Mobipocket both use 'other means' to derive the Device Code, and it is only with the 'faulty' ROMs that the Device Code changes.
I've taken my Trinity through about 7 ROM updates, and the TomTom Device Code remained the same except in the DOPOD WM6 ROMs; reverting to another ROM resulted in the Device Code going back to what it should be.
This is a real problem for TomTom users because they are currently refusing to relink the new Device Code to the Traffic and Weather account, even if you succeed in obtaining a new activation code. So you have a situation where the software is working fine, but you can't access your TomTom Home subscriptions. Customer Support are now asking for 'proof of purchase' of the WM6 ROM upgrade, which of course can't be provided as there is no 'proof of purchase' for most ROMs.
We have had quite a long topic on this on 4Winmobile, and the latest situation is that it could be a case for Trading Standards to investigate, as TomTom are effectively blocking users from accessing services they have paid for.
hi Neil,
that's most interesting feedback, thanks.
I too have installed at least 6 ROMs on my Trinity. From the OEM Orange UK WM5 (the phone came with) through to mUns TE and others the device code remained static.
Then when I went to the officical Dopod WM6 ROM it changed. I believe I also used the latest official of their ROMS the other week, which was rumoured to fix this issue, but it has not. I think people are confusing the other issue of changing with each hard reset- which I do not have the problem of.
I'm very frustrated with TomTom- it's a month now with no Traffic- and I use it for my work driving the length of the country.
I've suggested that it shouldn't be my problem- after all I have paid the subscription, and it's an official ROM. OK it costs them time to make a change- but it costs them more to keep sending emails to-and-fro asking me for proof etc etc. I've wasted hours on this chasing, HTC (Dopod), Microsoft and TomTom, plus investigating on the web. It's clearly an issue, but no-one will hold their hands up.
If someone could post a link to the latest Dopod ROM which definitively does not change the ID I'd be eternally grateful. And by definitive, I'd prefer first hand experience ;-)
folks,
tonight I bit the bullet and installed mUn's Indigo Full. Very quick to install, nice looking ROM but the Device ID has still changed :-(
So every Dopod official ROM and now the full Indigo changes the device ID from the original WM5 ROM and every other WM6 ROM.
I've tried 3 ROM in 7 days now. This is getting silly!
I think I will not be renewing my TomTom Traffic. Oh and I forgot to say, HTC Europe sent me a fob- off email tonight.
"Contact your phone supplier......" Thanks. They seem to be deliberately avoiding this- I gave them the chance to just say "yes" we know there is an issue. That would be enough for TomTom.....
TomTom and license key
I have heard that TomTom only allows the use of the license key twice. Has anyone found this to be true? Because, if so, a lot of people who have installed WM6 on their Trinity and have been asked to activate Navigator again (myself included) will have to think twice before switching ROMs again.
Hmm I'm not sure if this is correct- if the map is activated, and you change the device ROM, TomTom does not need the map to be reactivated normally.
This ONLY happens if you change the device ID- i.e. you then need to reactivate with the licence.
If Device ID's change again then yes there is a problem.
Please lets not confuse the issue here- the problem is for Traffic subscriptions- you can only change your device in the TomTom account online once in 6 months.
After this you must go through TomTom support.
It's not got customer service to be waiting 1 month with no resolution.
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Hmm I'm not sure if this is correct- if the map is activated, and you change the device ROM, TomTom does not need the map to be reactivated normally.
This ONLY happens if you change the device ID- i.e. you then need to reactivate with the licence.
If Device ID's change again then yes there is a problem.
Please lets not confuse the issue here- the problem is for Traffic subscriptions- you can only change your device in the TomTom account online once in 6 months.
After this you must go through TomTom support.
It's not got customer service to be waiting 1 month with no resolution.
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I also had the "famous" devide-id change after upgrading to the official WM6. But in my case something very strange: I DID send a proove of repair to TomTom (I really had a repair) and then TomTom DID reset my device-id to the correct device-id (when I actually look at the TomTom-site my settings are all correct).
But now I still get an error using traffic (and other Plus-services). I resettet my device on the TomTom site many times but no effect.
The situation now is that I have alle the correct codes, can use TomTom (6) but still can't use traffic!
When I go back to an unofficial ROM (p.e. Sleuth 3.2) with another device-id everything's ok.
Frustrating... don't know what to do anymore, TomTom did their job.
oh no Pietrucci, that's bad news. And very odd if they changed the ID, but going back to another ROM with old ID, Traffic works.
So if TomTom update my device ID and Traffic still doesn't work I'm scuppered.
Apparently they never let you go back to an old ID in your account, which means going back to an old ROM may not help either. Maybe there is something wrong with their account system for Traffic, if your old one still works???
pietrucci said:
I also had the "famous" devide-id change after upgrading to the official WM6. But in my case something very strange: I DID send a proove of repair to TomTom (I really had a repair) and then TomTom DID reset my device-id to the correct device-id (when I actually look at the TomTom-site my settings are all correct).
But now I still get an error using traffic (and other Plus-services). I resettet my device on the TomTom site many times but no effect.
The situation now is that I have alle the correct codes, can use TomTom (6) but still can't use traffic!
When I go back to an unofficial ROM (p.e. Sleuth 3.2) with another device-id everything's ok.
Frustrating... don't know what to do anymore, TomTom did their job.
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I have exactly the same problem. Online my plus services shows that the TomTom Device ID is correct, BUT traffic still doesn't work.
Going back to the older version of WM6 with the older device code and it works. So TT Plus servers must still have the old device code associated with my PLUS account even though PLUS online is showing the new code.
I've told TT that it's not working but no fix so far.
MAJOR UPDATE: New build of WM6 fixes the device ID change issue. The device ID is the same as in WM5 - the first cooked ROM to include the fixed build is Schap's 3.60a.
Best get onto TT and have that code reverted back sharpish!
hi eaglerest can you post a link to the specific new build of WM6 you are referring to please (the OEM ROm, not the cooked one).
The 8th of August DOPOD rom DOES NOT fix the device ID bug.
i.e. this one RUU_Trinity_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.00.707.18_6275_1.46.30.11_108_Ship
hi,
sorry it's a hermes build.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322905
ah, so it's not just confined to the Trinity then.
thanks for the info eaglerest.
right, I've given up with this ridiculous Device ID business!
I told TomTom to leave the ID alone (after 6 weeks with no Traffic) and have gone back to mUn's TE, which preserves the old Device ID.
Not what I really wanted but I think I'll be an old man before it gets resolved.
HTC In Asia and Europe fobbed me off and wouldn't even acknowledge this as an "event" let alone a bug.
Hi all, am I missing something? I thought that the latest release of code i.e. OS 5.2.1620 Build 18125.0.4.2 was going to fix this? Or have I mis-read the posts. I ask because I tried the latest Bepe build, and my device ID still changed. Does anybody know excatly why the ID is changing?
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Hi all, am I missing something? I thought that the latest release of code i.e. OS 5.2.1620 Build 18125.0.4.2 was going to fix this? Or have I mis-read the posts. I ask because I tried the latest Bepe build, and my device ID still changed. Does anybody know excatly why the ID is changing?
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Not really sure what you think you have misread. perhaps you are thinking of a bug whereby the Device ID apparently changed on EACH hard reset? I personally have not seen this.
My problem is that WM5 = DEVICE ID A (My Traffic is registered to this.
mUns TE WM6= DEVICE ID A
Official DOPOD WM6 ROm, Indigo FULL = DEVICE ID B. Now my Traffic will not work.
TomTom will only change the registered device if I can provide proof from HTC or someone else that this is a bug. Guess what- they've been no help at all. Neither have Microsoft or Orange.
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Not really sure what you think you have misread. perhaps you are thinking of a bug whereby the Device ID apparently changed on EACH hard reset? I personally have not seen this.
My problem is that WM5 = DEVICE ID A (My Traffic is registered to this.
mUns TE WM6= DEVICE ID A
Official DOPOD WM6 ROm, Indigo FULL = DEVICE ID B. Now my Traffic will not work.
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OK, just so I'm clear on this because I'm (nervously) about to go down the path of updating for the first time. I'm coming from WM5, having never flashed before, will upgrading with Bepe's latest of .74 change my Device ID or not?
probably, but I have no idea for sure. Not used that ROM.
If you use TomTom Traffic and it does change, you will not be able to use it anymore. If you have never changed your device ID with TomTom, you can do it yourself- but only once per 6 months via your account on their website.
You will have to re-register all your maps too.
If you saw moondevils post, his ID changed with one of bepe's builds. I imagine that bepe uses the same core OS for all his builds so your ID will likely change.
mUns TE is the only Wm6 ROM I have tried which keeps the ID (and I've tried many many).
sickboy555, thanks for your reply.
I *thought* I'd seen something relating to the newer build not changing the ID, but I was obviously mistaken. Like you, I've tried most of the "post Dopod official" Roms and they all change my device ID. I followed the link to the Hermes build and saw that it was a 18125.0.4.2 build, and thought that maybe this would cure it. But obviously not.
What I find funny is that Bepe is building Tomtom in to his builds, and I'd love to use it, except I just upgraded from my SPV M5000 (1 change) and now tomtom won't let me reregister my maps.
Bugger!
I have done the obvious steps of googling and searching the forums so please excuse me if I have missed the answer to this question but here goes....
I bought a T-Mobile branded HTC S620 on ebay, the advert says it has WiFi but the device never showed this ability at all. I followed instructions here to update to the Kavana 6.1 Rom but still no Wi Fi. I was wondering if anyone can tell me should this actually have Wi Fi capability?
The technical details are:
CPU: TI OMAP850
Speed: 201 MHz
RAM: 64 MB
FLASH: 128 MB
Model Name: HTC-S620
Radio Version: 4.1.13.51_03.07.90
Can`t find a way to display further information, if I run the freeware program WifiIO it says "sorry no WLAN hardware found" and I`m thinking it doesn`t have the hardware built in
There is a code underneath the battery that reads EXCA210 if this helps?
Thanks
Dave
Of course it does. Did you check on CommManager? If you flashed the phone to 6.1 then I assume you also followed the steps to allow SMS, MMS and Internet to work? If you haven't, look into that. If you have... then it sounds weird. I am sure I read something similar to your problem around recently.
I just got a Dash from T-Mobile and I do have wifi, so yes you should definately have it also.
That`s what I thought, using a registry editor I can see that under HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\WLAN it has two values
one says DEFAULT and in brackets (value not set) and the other is the device name. I have been reading in one post that maybe the T Mobile models don`t have wlan hard ware. I looked at the exact wording on the ebay advert and it says "put wi fi and Bluetooth 2.0 as a extra item" whatever that means
It does not show in the comm manager though
I have just found that in the folder WINDOWS is a file called RemoveWiFi so I would assume there must be a way to make it enabled again?
Busted wifi yet another ebay Dump, Busted wifi S620.
I think there may be a way to re enable it and hopefully someone who knows more than me about the subject can help.
I`m guessing the key is to do with the removewifi file. I opened it in notepad and it contains a load of text including bits saying to enable just 6 items (whereas with wifi enabled there should be seven I think on the manager screen).
Of course it could just be that thats the default setting for the Kavana 6.1 rom however it appears from hours of googling that the 210 (my model) is the Dash from T Mobile and not the hard ware disabled T Mobile mail so I`m hoping
So maybe if someone can tell me how to edit the removewifi file (is it safe to do so?) I may be able to enable the feature
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I think there may be a way to re enable it and hopefully someone who knows more than me about the subject can help.
I`m guessing the key is to do with the removewifi file. I opened it in notepad and it contains a load of text including bits saying to enable just 6 items (whereas with wifi enabled there should be seven I think on the manager screen).
Of course it could just be that thats the default setting for the Kavana 6.1 rom however it appears from hours of googling that the 210 (my model) is the Dash from T Mobile and not the hard ware disabled T Mobile mail so I`m hoping
So maybe if someone can tell me how to edit the removewifi file (is it safe to do so?) I may be able to enable the feature
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if you loaded kavana's rom the wifi manager should be at the bottem where it says settings under photo and you just scroll left or right and it should say wireless manager : wifi off click the silver button and it will open your comm manager then you can turn it on...if it isn't on there maybe you messed up when you loaded the rom, re-download the rom then re-boot the rom back onto your phone..
Thanks, I know the comms manager but it shows only bluetooth and the phone options, followed the instructions for rom properly and image appears to be fine as everything else works.
Its supposed to be the T-Mobile Dash according to the sellers advert, he refuses to answer my queries, but if it ish that should have had wi fi and when I got it there was no wi fi on the t mobile rom eithr so maybe I just got ripped off by a smeghead on ebay
Still nice phone though
I don't want to look like a cretin, but I have seen on ebay knock off exact copies of phones such as the Nokia N96 and they all lacked wifi. Maybe you got a knock off HTC Dash hence why no wifi? Just a thought.
I'm not aware of any T-Mob Dash that was sold without WiFi.
Here's an idea: Reflash the phone with T-Mob's latest ROM and see if the WiFi gets installed and can be enabled. If it is/can, then you know something fubar'd when you flashed the non-OEM ROM.
I'm not aware of any T-Mob Dash that was sold without WiFi.
Here's an idea: Reflash the phone with T-Mob's latest ROM and see if the WiFi gets installed and can be enabled. If it is/can, then you know something fubar'd when you flashed the non-OEM ROM.
I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the MDA Mail variant of the Excalibur sold by T-Mobile in Germany & UK did not have onboard Wi-Fi
Not sure if cross-flashing ROM can enable it - or if the hardware is not in there.
yyour wifiinit.lnk mustve gotten deleted, thats exactly what happens if i remove mine from windows/startup folder. im guessing that if u either reflash it, hard reset or idk if someone uploaded it for you tt download that the issue will be fix
The original T Mobile rom didn`t allow wifi either, it had Windows Mobile 5 on then. I will have to see how to create a wifiinit.lnk file and where to place it.
Hi!
I own both a unbranded HTC S620 and the German MDA mail. Im a alert by the fact that u stated that the model name under the battery as EXCA210. Because that is exactly what I have in my German wifi-disabled MDA mail. The wifi-enabled HTC S620 on the other hand reads EXCA200.
However, it is very easy in fact to determine if your Excalibur (whatever the model) is one of those "handicapped" MDA mails.
How does the case look? Is it all black? Not like the new US Dash but a metallic, black paint on the front cover? Plus, a MDA mail only has the "Designed for Windows Mobile" logo on the back and nothing else!
Usually, all the ROMs automatically detect whether WiFi is available or not. If the WiFi option is shaded grey and not applicable in the CommManager then I'm very sorry but to tell u that either the WiFi Module is broken or you've got one of the MDA mails. I can approve of that since I am easily able to check this for both of my phones.
Googling for EXCA210 and finding that it is a T-Mobile Dash doesnt change the fact...that is usually some confusion about that. Even on the Excalibur-Wiki and the smartphone-db, they list the MDA mail as wifi-enabled which it is, obviously not.
EDIT: Oh, and btw. There is no way of enabling the WiFi on a MDA Mail. It simply lacks the WiFi-onboard module!
I have to admit the seller who won`t reply to me at all says its a T Mobile Dash with optional Wi Fi and Bluetooth 2.0 in his advert on ebay, however it seems to me to be an MDA instead.
Its a UK one, jet black as you describe complete with ten silver numeric keys and I`m thinking the seller just is a rip off merchant!
Alright mate, then u got a MDA mail..sorry to hear that. It's not a bad phone though..its a q nice contrast to all the other silver ones...but yet, very disappointing withouth WiFi. To be honest, I reckon the seller didnt even know what he was selling, and just copied the data from the normal HTC S620. Very little people know about this crucial difference between the two..however, he should have been one of those..
Have you got a link to the bespoken product on ebay?
HTC MDA Mail
Is this your phone? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/03/12/t-mobile_ships_mda_mail/ I got to say that I really like the looks of it, even though it doesn't have wifi, is a nice phone. Is there anything else different from the dash? regarding apps and features.
Yes thats the one roloracer.
Yes the looks are really cool i admit, but its bears the typical HTC problem as other re-branded/re-modelled phones for T-Mobile : the colour wears off very rapidly. I had that problem with my Amadeus (SDA music for T-Mo GER) that the white paint came off really easily. For the MDA Mail u basically end up with the normal HTC S620 cover underneath with still little bits of the original colour scattered on the front cover...makes it look very roughed up..not nice
Apart from that, everything is the same. I cant really remember about the Apps because I unlocked and upgraded the ROM very quickly.. But another advantage is that those MDA mails were manufactured in the HTC plant in Taiwan...so its said that those usually show a better component quality.
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Yes thats the one roloracer.
Yes the looks are really cool i admit, but its bears the typical HTC problem as other re-branded/re-modelled phones for T-Mobile : the colour wears off very rapidly. I had that problem with my Amadeus (SDA music for T-Mo GER) that the white paint came off really easily. For the MDA Mail u basically end up with the normal HTC S620 cover underneath with still little bits of the original colour scattered on the front cover...makes it look very roughed up..not nice
Apart from that, everything is the same. I cant really remember about the Apps because I unlocked and upgraded the ROM very quickly.. But another advantage is that those MDA mails were manufactured in the HTC plant in Taiwan...so its said that those usually show a better component quality.
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So unless you absolutely need the wifi , then you're not missing anything by having an mda mail instead of a dash/excalibur.
Hello there,
What I Have: Att 8525 Herm100
Rom: Att's Mobile 6
Everything is stock but the extended life battery
The problem I am having is when ever I try to activate my WiFi the phone doesn't do anything. I am not sure if there is a wifi card or not but that's want I want to know. I have tried everything from activating it in com manager to going into the settings and activating it manually and nothing happens it acts like I didn't even hit the button to activate it. Is there a wifi card in the phone or is it integrated on the motherboard in the phone. Note: I bought this phone off e-bay and the wifi never worked when I received the phone.
I am new here and if there is a post about this already I am sorry.
I hate it when that happens.
To begin, there were two ATT OEM WM6 roms relevant to the 8525 that I noticed deep in the bowels of XGA.
I chose the later file (higher revision numbers) I found it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Available Original Shipped WM6 ROM Versions
From comm manager when I click the tower button on within a second the spinning windoze icon shows something is happening. It then starts "sniffing" for my preset wifi connection (ATT supplied 2wire portal 802.11g).
Now, if yours does not show the spinning windoze working icon when you turn on wifi? There obviously is a problem. This could be software, or hardware related (duh). If there is no error message related to "wifi is not an option, unavailable, or screwed" then my first guess is there is something missing or damaged in the ROM update that was applied to your device. As far as I know all 8525 (herm100) were shipped with wm5. It had been mentioned in the volumes of xda that the first AT&T WM6 rom was a little buggy. Try the later released AT&T WM6 update.
It was a run file so no muss no fuss. Sync the phone run the update from the pc, three minutes later the phone is flashed to ATT WM6 professional.
You could take it to a ATT shop? But, I think that without a doubt they would hand it back and say you need a new phone with a 20 year contract and 3g data plan even Obama would blush at.
Try the hard reset. take a picture of the startup screens so you have the numbers and see if the wifi startup is working after the reset. If not then compare the numbers to the above mentioned roms. If the indications are you have the first issue of WM6 from ATT try flashing the second release. If that still fails then your device could indeed have a hardware problem.
The wifi is indeed built into the system and if that chip on the board is not working it could be a overly expensive problem. Possibly a shop has a working board they would swap out cheap? Otherwise, it is a fun phone you can keep notes on, run gps software if you have a bluetooth gps receiver and software like tomtom.
To be honest the wifi on my 8525 has been convenient when around the house to check the local weather radar when I hear a thunder outside, or browse headlines from the porcelain room or even leave messenger turned on incase a gamer friend is looking for someone to get shot up in a game.
I have used the live search voice thing to amaze the neighbors once. But, the limited range of wifi is a real drawback to how truly wonderful that addition could be.
HELP Please! Wi-Fi not working!!!
Hi to XDA all users !!!
MY Hermes - HTC TyTN [Herm200]
I bought HTC Hermes myself year ago.
there was flashed a WM5.0, I've just downloaded from here HARD SPL & WM6,1 (Custom) Flashed.
Wi-Fi will works on WM5.0.
Well here I am at 6.1 flashed and now is not working Wi-Fi. When i pressed Power ON - loading long and nothing happens.
Other methods are also tried on Commanager and Settings - but did not help.
What do I need to do my dear.
HELP!
Thank you for your attention!
Hi Nurk.
Since the wifi worked on wm5 but failed after the 6.1 flash. I would guess the problem is in the 6.1 components. You might start with contacting the kitchen rom you employed for WM6.1 thread and see if this has happened to others. Next step would be to check the radio rom version. I did see on xda an assortment of Radio roms.
If your not totally in love with the current rom you have flashed? Try another 6.1 or even a 6.5 and see whats poppin.
and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?
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and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?
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I have get this from registry:
HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName - {98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TIACXWLN1