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WM6 Rom Comparisons/Feedback

Hi,
I would like to get some peoples thoughts/feedback on the different WM6 ROMs available.
I have a Dopod 838 Pro and am probably going to flash it purely to see if any extra functionality can be gained out of it & seeing as i have Windows Vista on my Laptop, it seems logical to have WM6 on my XDA
XDA Live & LVSW seem to be looking the most populat of the current flavors around?
Any comments?
I'm actually just flashing the device now with LVSW but was reading some of the posts about XDA Live & it seems tempting...
I guess i may aswell mention i'm also testing out Telstra NextG at work, so anything which will make the radio more responsive & reliable is going to go down well in my books.
If mine goes good, then i might have to do the same for one of the managers at work who has the i-mate jasjam but with the current Telstra ROM on there it is performing like a snail in a sand pit.
All comments appreciated, seeing as i'm the guinea pig at work for most of this stuff.
Thanks.

I tried first LVSW, and run into installation trouble. I got the infamous white screen, and after I made it work, it was really slow. Maybe all my mistake, don't know. I tried than XDA Live 2, and that installed like a charm, and works like a charm, very fast. I am using it since 3 days now, and did not have a single time to soft re-set - and that was necessary with WM5 at least 3 twice a day.

Hi there,
I have notice many users with i-Mate JasJam have upgraded to WM6 Black Edition V1.2.
Anyone have any comments or comparison to the other two?
I am currently own a JasJam with WM5 - this thing runs like a dog and having to soft re-set almost everyday - I am currently considering upgrade to WM6 but really not sure which one to go for.
Any advice would be really appreciated - thanks.

See this: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/664668.html
You may have to do that reg hack to enable nextg.. that was the first thing I noticed after flashing a non standard rom.. less band options.. being on plain ole gsm, it didn't bother me.. but that's the only place I've seen mention of it.

I flashed my Dopod 838Pro with Black 1.2 and couldn't be happier. It's really quick, as stable as I noticed WM5 to be, and (being an Aussie) I prefer to have a rom which was cooked here and has carrier settings for here. This was my first experience with flashing a ROM but I only intend to flash again with a later version of the Black ROM. I'd highly recommend it.

I began with the WM6 vanilla and then went to an earlier LSVW ROM. The earlier LSVW took 25 min to flash. I hear newer version takes 40 min to flash. Some have paniced and unpluged their phones temporarily bricking them.
I went back to the vanilla ROM. It takes a little tweaking to get it right but takes only a few minutes to flash. It's also stable. One does have to move the windows office icons around to use MS office.
Remember to SIM and CID unlock your hermes before flashing. Also, you'll have to use the keyboard fix cab for certain hermes versions.

I hear newer version takes 40 min to flash. Some have paniced and unpluged their phones temporarily bricking them.
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nope...I installed the OS only version and it took about only 6 minutes to install.
you need an 'OS only' rom if you have already flashed the radio to the latest version.

WM6 Black 1.2 is the best IMHO. I used XDA Live for several weeks, but find Black more quicker and more stable, less soft resets etc.

My preference is with the latest LSVW. It has less baggage than WMBE but if you need the functionality of the extra software provided with WMBE then you should chose that.
I think there is not much difference in terms of stability between the two although there has been issues with white screen (more apparent with the LSVW apparently) tho I haven't been cursed with that yet. Most of the instability/compatibility issues lie within the software installed after flashing the OS.
If I'm correct, LSVW has not had the OS version number editted to allow BBC/GOODLINK to work on it but WMBE has. This is not an issue for me since I have no use for these programs.
There is also some more recent additions to the variety of WM6 roms tho they are based on the LSVW version.
I'm looking forwards to Jasjammings WMBE 2.0 which he claims to be based on a final version of WM6. This should be very promising and despite the various added features which I won't need I'll definately be installing.

I was using Vanilla at first, sometimes my TyTN hung up but not too often. Then XDA Live v.10, without any problems. Then I've tried Black Edition v.1.2 but it had issues with SPB Software, sop that was no good for me at all.. Now I'm trying LVSW 2007-03-26, so far so good.. but probably i will flash again to XDA Live v.30 when it's avalaible

Black Dymond or LVSW Cingular Edition

I've been using Black (and currently 3.01) but am looking at moving on. Who can give me advise on the pros and cons between Dymond and the LVSW?

If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.

That is probably my biggest concern, and the reason I left the factory ROM. I'm kind of leaning the LVSW way but want to make sure I'm not passing up something good with Black Dymond. I"m starting to get tired repeatedly setting up my device with all my programs after I move to a new ROM.

mcvosi said:
If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.

Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...

drewriddle said:
Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...
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speed, stability and the latest RTM Rom (not a MS dogfood rom) available. please see the threads over at 4wm for your self.
Black Dymond has been beta, RC1 and RC2 tested by a user group. Any issues experienced will be isolated based on 3rd party applications. Try it and see for yourself.
If someone posts negative feedback by all means please state what went wrong etc over at 4wm so notes can be taken.

mcvosi said:
...clip...In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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I am also interested to hear what kind of 'testing' you did.
Dymond is Actually Rock-Solid.

A quick point about "dogfood" since its been spun up with a somewhat bad connotation here.
M$ employees run the latest and greatest software from the development groups. They call it "eating their own dogfood". Its a term of endearment on the M$ campus. Every major M$ developer/presenter I spoke with at MEDC this year was running "dogfood" on their device. Generally, "dogfood" is a few point releases in advance of what gets sent to the masses.
Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it. Case in point: check the Kaiser thread.

mcvosi said:
If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...

Black Dymond is the best Rom.....

I am using black 3.5 since yesterday and so far it has treated me well. I don't see any stability issues.
I have installed some spb programs like weather and some games and the ROM rocks.
I have been on black 2.5 before and that was stable as well. However dymond is noticeably much faster.
I have not tried any other ROMS besides these 2 so I cannot say which one I would favor over the other. I like black and sticking with for now.

I recently flashed the vp3G ROM after using Black 2.5 for about a month. Black 2.5 treated me very well, however I am happier with the vp3G (LSVW derivative). It is much faster and more polished than the Black 2.5 I was using(because it is newer, I suppose). I have been very excted about the 3.xx versions of Black but have yet to try them until I read through all the threads to see if it is a fit for me (3.0/3.1 didn't seem to be the right move). For now, vp3G/LSVW is an excellent ROM for me.
I'm running SPB Diary, MS VC 1.6, VOIP, IM+, SKTools, DinarSoft HandySwitcher, MOBITV, SettingSavior .94, and a bunch of other stuff. No problems AT ALL to report. Program Memory stays solid, device never freezes, and battery lasts the longest.
Hope this helps...

Black Dymond with C-Start : experiencing sync problem
Using Balck Dymond for 12h. Looks quite stable, not to mention the style. Thanks JJ
All functions work well (haven't tested 3G - China not deploying it yet ).
Most impressive is the performance of WiFi (compared to Black 3.01 and WM Hermes QS Edition) - power settings shoul be on "Best Performance", otherwise do not connects even putting the device next to BS
Found some conflict betwen C-Start and embodied input - haven't explored the issue yet.
Issue with synchronization: When the ROM was "virging" no problem synchronizing. Suspect installing C-Start, after the system runs for some time, there is some software conflict. Have followed all ActiveSync 4.5 troubleshooting advice, but looks like the issue is in the device. Next few days will try to install different Chinese characters software - hope it will work!
-- The same issue had with Black 3.1 + C-Start; the difference is that with Black 3.01 was able to etsablish connection between the PPC and the PC, was able to "browse" the PPC but no sync; with Dymond no connection at all
Hope will figure out some way arround with the Chinese characters

Sleuth255 said:
Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it.
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Heh... I think some folks are wishing this "dogfood" came from Menu Foods rather than M$.
Not to mention anyone who's been in IT for any length of time knows a "shipping" version doesn't necessarily equate to a "good" version (can we all say Windows ME?). C'mon, I know y'all didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

I think vp3g rom is by far the best. I ve been playing with this rom since it 1st came out and i must say its Very stable, very BIG storage, very responsive, and the tie in of the cingular settings with this rom adds close to a perfect rom! My only gripe with lsvw rom base is "esmertec java" Opera mini sucks with it! But otherwise a great rom!

jasjamming said:
please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.
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I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.

DAFTEK said:
Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...
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It's given me no hassles at all, aside from the WLAN problem when using WPA2 pre-shared key, which seems to be a problem in a few recent ROMs (Faria's being the exception here). It has the Cingular customization already done, and includes what I need and not what I don't need. I also like the inclusion of a working X-button. No additional CABs to install.

mcvosi said:
I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.
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Well then,
Maybe you should have choose the word "Tried" rather saying something like 'in my "Testing" I found it to unstable.'
You tried it, you didn't actually do any 'testing.'
I was involved in the 'beta' and RC1, and still using it loaded full of apps, and there is NO instability at all.

cant say much about the others but...
I am running Dymond and no stability issues what s ever were detected unless:
You add on HTC X (doesn't matter what version - both Sucks) use alternatives like handyswitcher or others.
This is the ROM I had the longest uptime before SR!
I am running Pushmail (more than 200 email per day) with sms activity fairly high as well as phone calls that could probably fry my ... and still stability is not an issue.
only issue i am wondering about these days is what Radio Version is the best to work with...

I have actually found the same issues with every WM6 rom I have tried to date. I have loaded all of Kyphurs, a couple of LVSW's and Black 2.01 onwards.
I think everyone here knows that actual problems stem from third party apps and/or personal set up and the roms get blamed for the problems.
I also think we all know that a lot of people fall into the two main camps and will argue their rom is better than the other one.
I am on Dymond and havn't had a soft reset for the two days its been on my device - which for a cooked rom I reckon is pretty damn good - but I reckon from what I have read LVSW's latest is probably ok too...
You pays your money and you takes your choice --- oh except you dont pay any money - ITS FREE!

new telstra imate RUU_Hermes_DL_UK_3.62.305.5_6275_1.54.30.10_108

new
RUU_Hermes_DL_UK_3.62.305.5_6275_1.54.30.10_108_Ship.exe

I went to the imate website and no release for this that I could find.
Could you provide more details like when, where, how....
Screen shots, customisations, what is installed, memory and storage availability.

simon_darley said:
I went to the imate website and no release for this that I could find.
Could you provide more details like when, where, how....
Screen shots, customisations, what is installed, memory and storage availability.
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I couldn't find it on their site either - but I installed this and it is indeed an official Imate Telstra WM6 Pro rom. It's very fast too.

Please visit the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348435

simon_darley said:
I went to the imate website and no release for this that I could find.
Could you provide more details like when, where, how....
Screen shots, customisations, what is installed, memory and storage availability.
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Click here to download
http://clubimate.com/jasjamsupport/JASJAMUPDAU.html#DNLD
Exe version:
http://clubimate.com/jasjamsupport/ROM/Telstra_JASJAM_Upgrade.exe
Zip version:
http://clubimate.com/jasjamsupport/ROM/Telstra_JASJAM_Upgrade.zip

Can i ask a noob question. Can we install this in HTC tytn ??

Hyins said:
Click here to download
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Hyins - you linked the realy old Telstra\Club Imate upgrade. The original Rom linked at the start of the thread is different and up to date.

This rom works and has the latest radio
This Rom works very well and has the latest radio!!!!

Does this ROM replace the SPL as well?

anyone else in australia installed this? Downloading now, but havent seen anything offical from telstra or imate about this. Seems strange someone in Italy has it

xternal said:
anyone else in australia installed this? Downloading now, but havent seen anything offical from telstra or imate about this. Seems strange someone in Italy has it
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Agreed. I installed the New radio out of it, and thats going strong, but i havent tested the full rom.

A SUPER DUPER Rom From Imate & Telstra
A super fine Rom without any call dropouts or hangs. Newest radio delivers optimum performance in connectivity and speed , just the ROM you are looking for ! Though the storage is less ( just 33.73MB ) but on deleting some unwanted games and programs you can push up storage. The details of ROM are : Windows Mobile6 Pro build 18125.0.4.2 ; Rom version 3.62.305.5
Rom date : 6th Nov 2007 ; Radio version : 1.54.30.10 ; Ext Rom : 3.62.305.116. I have been testing the ROM since last 2 Days and found it to be more superior than those cooked ones . It also contains the latest version of MS mobile Office 2007. It also has PV player for razor sharp video playback. Overall who ever has discovered this ROM must be a perfomance freak and not only applications freak.
Great job by sharing this fine ROM !!!!! Also Imate customers can upgrade to this ROM alongwith other users of Hermes 100 series ppcs.

So ugly, it has to be a genuine Telstra upgrade
Installed the new Telstra ROM and it does appear to be official except that it was so boring compared to cooked ROMs I have used from Custel and Black.
My evening got a lot more interesting after I flashed Schapps latest release over the top of the ugly Telstra one.
Of interest was a Telstra 5.5 cab in the extended ROM. Now that it's erased, silly me, I would like to know how to extract it from the installer to share.

i'm also in Australia and want to know more about this ROM. Does anyone know anything......?

I am installing new rom now will have a bit of a play and see how it goes

dont install this if you are in UK,its has weak signal reception and also often disconnect call half way through.now switch back to 1.47

xternal said:
Seems strange someone in Italy has it
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..hey nothing strange there.. caxio does work his magic all the time to bring us here the latest of the stock ROMs available all the time...

Have installed, and it seems stable and quick.
Note if you're not with Telstra (Australia) you'll probably need to change the band settings (GSM 900/1800 and UMTS 850).
I liked the Black roms, except I never got bluetooth issues resolved and it'd crash when answering calls via car kit. I stuck with TNT for a while as bluetooth worked fine, but unhappy it'd randomly crash on me every few days. Not good for a phone used for after-hours support. Most other ROMs would drop ActiveSync connection after just 10 minutes.
So far so good on this one, will add the (very few) apps I'm missing and see how it survives over the week.

I think im going to try and strip some of the stuff out of it, and see how it goes.
So far so good though. Seems nice and quick, stable and good phone connectivity.

I installed this yesterday and so far it's been great.
As others have said, not a lot of storage after installation (with my programs all installed I'm down to about 17 mb free).
Radio seems really good, however if you're in a fringe area it will chew your battery up. In CBD battery usage is very similar to 1.47.
I'm thinking of re-flashing this one and soft-resetting prior to the customisation (which is where most of the bloat comes from). This should improve the memory situation somewhat and as all the customisation cabs are on extented memory I can pick only the ones I need.

I dont understand all these roms :(

hi all, if im right then my warrenty on my TP2 finishes in september.
So what im looking to do is stick a new cooked rom on there.
im pi55ed off with my phone because its sooo slow and it keeps failing on me but i dont want to get rid of it really because 99% of my friends either have crackberrys or ipoones and i want to be different.
i am a complete n00b with all the techy stuff like tweeking the phone.
I have a few questions for people with cooked roms
1 - what sort of memory does your rom run at?
2 - how long does your battery last and on what type of usage?
3 - do you need to keep doing soft re-sets?
4 - is your new rom quick and reliable?
5 - are all the features quick and realiable such as bluetooth?
i think thats it for now, i will start looking into the roms more from now on so i can hopefully just do it once and do it right the first time.
however if there are any chefs in london who are willing to build me a complete custom rom then PM me and we will discuss it further about the rom and pricing for your time ect...
THANKS in advance!!

1. The memory of some chef's ROMs can run as low as 40% on startup, moving up to about 50-60%. It depends. Look for the "lite" or "clean" ROMs for better memory.
2. The battery lasts me all day, heavy use through texting, phone calls, and internet. Using GPS, I'd imagine your battery would die fast, and phone calls don't seem to last longer than 3 hours before needing to be recharged.
3. Sadly, soft resets are needed for almost every WinMo device. That's the downside of all WinMo devices, though on the plus side, you get infinite customizability.
4. One of the most reliable ROMs with the most features is Valkyrie's ROM by Agent_47. I'm honestly no fanboy, but I have tried everyone else's ROMs, normal version, not lite or clean, and they all lack, or are crippled.
5. I don't use bluetooth, but wifi, phone signal, and GPS signal depend really on what radio you use. The different radios can be found in the ROM section. I use the most current one, .77, and I get good strength on all of the above.

thanks for the info, heres a bit more about my phone and its uage atm...
on the stock rom im using with using cleanram my phone runs around 60% - 70% but startup is just over 40%
Also i found my battery lasted 2 days when i had a 2gb card and now just over a day if im lucky with the 8gb card, so i may change it for a 4gb card which should be enough space for me.

Well, some clean and lite ROMs have as much as 80 MB free at start up (meaning, I believe that you would only have 20% on startup; any members can correct me if I'm wrong). I have only had 40% at most at startup, because I use feature packed ROMs.
I don't know anything about the SD card using more phone power, but you can give the 4 GB card a try. I get over 2 days on minimum usage with an 8 GB SD card. With max usage, as I said, I get about a full days use, with around 40-50% of battery life left.

also if anyone is local to me and wouldnt mind letting me have a quick play with there tp2 with a cooked rom to see how different it is to stock then please PM me

i went into a vodafone store today to double check about my warrenty, but after the 12 months manufacturer warrenty is over then vodafone have their own warrenty to cover the phone untill my contract is over.
now i know this im unsure if i should flash my rom now incase i do have anymore problems with the phone ??
what do you all suggest?

Just do the flash and get it over with You only have ONE first flash and then after that everything wont be as stressfull..
Also.. if you want to see what custom roms look like running on the phone just search for some custom roms on youtube. I'm sure you'll see some there. You'd get a more thurough view of what they do then if you were just bumbling around with it for 5 minutes on your own.

fair enough, i need to get my compuuter working then i guess to flash it!!

when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???

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when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
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Because custom ROM's don't have the critical "signature" that can only come from the manufacturer or carriers themselves. The stock SPL won't allow ROM's that don't have that signature, so that's why you have to replace SPL with a custom one when you want to flash ROM's issued by anybody than the carriers or HTC.

Sorry for the threadjack... but i was wondering the same things as the topic starter...
May i just add a few more questions?
*Roms like Energy, do they support BT and GPS?
*Is the problem with the sms lag (phone not waking on receiving) solved by a cooked rom?
*What are the major drawbacks when switching for standard to cooked? Ok the waranty is cancelled but anymore?
*I have a WWE version with WM6.5 ==> can i only install rom for 6.5 or can i install roms based on 6.1?
*I've looked at radios and the compatiblitylist... does this mean i have to install the wwe radio to get my device working?

feel free to ask questions here about roms ans im interested in the answers too

also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks

SMF_12 said:
also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.

I recently flashed deepshining x7 rom and I can't believe I waited so long. My TP2 feels faster and I love all the options available such as Cookie's home tabe editor and the such. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you flash. You can always flash back to the original if you don't like it.

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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!

SMF_12 said:
I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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Here they are, just wanted to make sure we were thinking of the same things

thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums

SMF_12 said:
thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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You bet! And yeah, these are the first two cabs I recommend all new Rhodium owners run...I don't know if they'll clear up all your issues, but you should at least see a significant change in available RAM.

Ive just put them onto my phone and doing a soft reset!
Ive also changed to the windows today menu last night and its running a bit better with that!!

[Q] Noob Question about ROM flashing at all and DeepShining for special

Hi,
shame on me- at first: pleace be patient with me. I dont want anyone make my work. Its just that my native language is german and I dont understand a few things. So please help me to find the correct tutorials and give me some tips.
i own an HTC Touch pro 2, bought at an O2 store in Germany, using with t-mobile and an limited dataplan (200 mb, HSDPA, 3G and stuff) S/n: HT98ELLXXXXX (Detail per private message if neccasarry)
Actual ROM Version: 1.89.207.2 (69719) GER
ROM avaible (i already have downloaded following ROMs)
_HTC Touch Pro2_RUU_Rhodium_S2_O2_DE_2.07.207.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship downloaded from HTC.com
RUU_Rhodium_S2_HTC_Europe_2.07.401.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship (Downloaded as written in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571892&highlight=WP7
Now i need to download the DeepShining X10.23135 - but i dont know if com2 or com3 ?!
I dont need my phone to be in german but if possible it would be ok. i saw in the FAQ, that changing the language could cause crashes. thats ok, i guess my english would be good enough.
so here the questions in numeric order as i need them:
1: Do i need to download the com3 or the com2 version? or is that depending on what i want? What i want is a stable System, a good battery life and a good menue-control.
2: Do i need to flash the original O2 Version i downloaded first or can I just start with step 2 of the description in the DeepShining Post?
3: Following sentences i dont understand exactly: IF YOU HAVE A CDMA DEVICE THEN GO *HERE* FOR INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO HARDSPL and *FLASH HARDSPL BEFORE FLASHING ANY CUSTOM ROMS*
What is an CDMA Device and what is HARDSPL?
If i follow the steps in deepshine thread- how dangerous would it be to flash my phone? its my only one and i need it very much. But at this time it often crashes on incoming calls and in many other situations.
Again: Please be patient. its all about my language. I just dont know what to look for using search engines or the built in search of this forum. You can help me step by step or just give me the correct posts and threads wich have already been written here. I just want to be absolutly sure, i will not kill my phone. I am an advaced PC User and i have some experiences in flashing other phones, so i know there always is an risk, but i want it as low as possible.
Thanks for your help folks.
sincerly, Alexander, Bochum Germany

CDMA is a type of network, used by some carriers in the US, and a few other countries. Germany is GSM, so no need to worry about CDMA stuff.
You MUST run HardSPL if you want to flash a custom ROM. HardSPL unlocks the SPL on your phone, which allows you to flash custom ROMs. Without running HardSPL, your phone will only allow you to flash "official" or "stock" ROMs released by your cell carrier.
Your phone is GSM, so use the HardSPL posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
As for more specific questions about the DeepShining ROMs, you should post your question on the thread for that ROM, and somebody will likely respond pretty quickly. I don't use DeepShining, so I can't help you with specific questions about that ROM, unfortunately.

Cool- thank you. Well- what do you use? any suggestions wich ROMs are useful? Most stable, good battery life, unsigned apps, daily use of internet by phone but only for services wich dont need highspeed like a messaging-program like IM+ or palringi- thats how i use my phone.

I use the Energy ROM. Its one of the most popular, and most frequently updated ROMs. It tends a bit on the eye-candy/appearance side, and has a decent number of cooked-in apps, but is still pretty fast, and I've found it to be very stable. But I've heard good things about DeepShining, and some people on here prefer it to Energy. I think DeepShining is a bit more "lightweight" and faster, but it all depends on what you are looking for in a ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
Coincidentally, NRG is today in the process of uploading the latest versions of his ROM. This release is the first time he is including languages other than English, and German is on top of the list. Don't think the other language versions are up yet, but they should be soon. The thread still says Sept. 8, but the new release is Sept. 13 and 14 (it usually takes him a bit to change the date and update the Change Log).

Uhm- now i am really confused. it sounds great, it looks great, but i cant find the download link of the latest version. there is so much with cookie, max sense and all these stuff.
The GUI in post #3 looks pretty good. so waht did you download? I am really so sorry for an question this dumb Its just the language barrier as i said, hehe.

another noob question now that you help me that good if i dont like it after patching, can i just install another rom of the 3 energy roms? right now i am downloading the actual 24634 of DinikGlass but i guess i will also try the cookie energy one
and do i need to install any other rom first before flashing the energy rom?

JackJTP said:
Uhm- now i am really confused. it sounds great, it looks great, but i cant find the download link of the latest version. there is so much with cookie, max sense and all these stuff.
The GUI in post #3 looks pretty good. so waht did you download? I am really so sorry for an question this dumb Its just the language barrier as i said, hehe.
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The Cookie versions include the Cookie Home Tab and CHT Editor (user made mods), which gives you great customization options for the Sense Home Tab. It does use up a good amount of program memory and may slow your phone a bit, so some people don't like it. But I really like it. The GTX and Dinik are just different themes (colors, icons, etc.) of what is basically the same ROM.
Standard Energy includes Sense, but not Cookies Home Tab. Standard Reference is close to stock, but really stripped down of apps, bloatware. Titanium is without Sense, so really stripped down and fast.
MaxSense is a user made mod that is similar to Android version of Sense. The home tab is 3 screens wide, and you can swipe side to side between the 3 screens, add widget similar to Android. I tried this for a while, and it has some cool features, but I didn't like how the taskbar in the home tab (special MaxSense taskbar) was different from everywhere else (other tabs, while apps are open, etc.).
I am using the Cookie GTX-themed version, mostly because I like the aesthetics of the GTX (white colored) theme, and I like the Cookie mod. I've mostly been using the Cookie GTX-themed version for several months now (updating to the newest release every month or 2, in general).
If you click the download link, and the latest release (Sept. 13/14) of your preferred version is not there yet, just be patient, and it will be there soon. If you want to try the German version, I assume those will be appropriately named with "German" in the file name.
Hope that helps, good luck!

i will give it a try. first i will check the cookie version of the last 23138 release sept. 13th. well... hope that works fine. if not i can change it anytime to a different rom, correct? i will let you know if i git it or not. the hard-spl alreadyx is working.
so thanks again for your help. talk to you later.
It is amazing. the installation was simple- to set up is simple too and it looks great. ok- it seems to be a little slow, but i can live with that i guess. great stuff - perfect work.

JackJTP said:
another noob question now that you help me that good if i dont like it after patching, can i just install another rom of the 3 energy roms? right now i am downloading the actual 24634 of DinikGlass but i guess i will also try the cookie energy one
and do i need to install any other rom first before flashing the energy rom?
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If you don't like one of the Energy ROMs, you can just flash a new one. But I always run Task29 before flashing a new ROM. Task29 wipes/formats the phones memory, to make sure that no fragments of the old ROM remain to cause bugs with the new ROM. This has been known to solve some random bugs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191
The Energy ROM does not require flashing the stock ROM, before flashing the Energy ROM. I've flashed different versions of Energy maybe 5-6 times without flashing the stock first, with no issues. But it seems that DeepShining requires flashing the stock ROM first (or at least strongly recommends it). I think this can be ROM specific, so follow the instructions given for the ROM you are flashing.

Thanks man, pretty good help. Especially the Task29 thing becaUSE I DIDNT KNOW WHAT THIS COULD MEAN ,9 WELL- I FLASHED THE ENERGY COOKIE WITHOUT DOING THAT AND IT WORKED BUT IT SEEMS TO NEED MUCH POWER AND ITS A LIL SLOW SO I WILL REFLASH THE SAME ROM WITH FORMATTING BEFORE: WELL; ENERGY IS SO DAMNED GREAT:
ups- didnt want to shout
so, back 2 topic. the rom is really great. much good functions and tools and very nice look. i guess i would try the white one too.
thanks again. now i am fit to do it.

It takes a while for the new ROM to settle in. So the immediate performance is not a good indicator of how fast/smooth the ROM will be. Let it run for an hour or so. Also, immediately after a flash, I hard reset, just to make sure you are starting clean. Some instructions for flashing say to do this, while some others don't. But it really can't hurt anything, and it might help.
Also, the battery meter is not very accurate whenever your flash or hard reset. So the battery life you are reading is not true. You need to "re-calibrate" the battery meter by charging to 100% (let it stay on the charger for a while to make sure the battery is really full) then run it down to 0%, until it shuts off automatically. Do this at least once of twice. Then your battery meter will be calibrated to what "full" and "empty" actually mean (battery voltage).
Also, turn down your backlight. It really drains the battery when at the "automatic" setting and 100% brightness. In the "Settings" tab, do to "Sound & Display", select Backlight, uncheck "Automatically adjust backlight". Then turn down the Brightness to your preferred setting. I find 60% to be very readable, but significantly increases battery life.
There are tons of other tricks to increase battery lift and speed, so play around.

redpoint73 said:
then run it down to 0%
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Very, very bad idea. In deed, it does recalibrate the battery, but it also reduces it's life cycles. I wouldn't recommend discharging the battery under 20%.

Jackos said:
Very, very bad idea. In deed, it does recalibrate the battery, but it also reduces it's life cycles. I wouldn't recommend discharging the battery under 20%.
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I've read that draining the battery may cause it to not take a charge (particularly over USB), but I haven't heard that it reduces life cycles. If you can explain a bit more, it would be appreciated.
EDIT: After poking around some, I've found a couple tidbits:
Avoid frequent full discharges because this puts additional strain on the battery.
If possible, do not discharge lithium-based batteries too deeply. Instead, recharge more often.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
So probably a good idea to follow Jacko's advice. I would think that charging full, then drain to 20% is okay in order to calibrate the battery meter.
Thanks for the tip, Jacko.

Hey folks,
thanks for the tips. The most of them i already did i am not new to mobile phones and custom operating systems, just new to custom wm roms. Well, in fact this battery thing about not to discharge it totally is a pretty good tip. i alway thought contrary to that.
good to know. well, today, after i have charged it to 100% it seems to be ok. same good than before and thats ok. in fact i need a new battery one time i guess. so the result:
i will stay with this rom. first try : match! it is so great, i cant believe it. the original roms o2 deliveres are pretty old and uncomftable. well- the german are. if its the same everywhere i dont know. i love it and my english is good enough.
the only problem i didnt solve right now: the hardware keyboard have the wrong layout- its english and so the @ for example is not where it should be. i didnt find the correct section in system settings. any suggestions?
well- anyway: thanks for your help.
EDIT: One thing left beside the keyboard thing: I have an stereo bluetooth headset, it can pair and connect the handsfree connection but there is no way to connect in stereo mode. is there a setting anywhere to authorize that ? it seems i am missing something

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You have to change the following Registry entry from:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayouFiles]
"07FF"="eT9.Rhodium.wwe.kmap.txt"
to:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayouFiles]
"07FF"="eT9.Rhodium.0407.kmap.txt"
Hope, that this would help you!
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That helped me after trying arround with the currlang value and stuff just in case someone looks here to find an solution.

another noob question- i was looking for why to upgrade the radio version. didnt find an answer i couldnt understand.
any suggestions if i should and what radio rom i should use? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
Version: 4.49.25.88 (HTC, T-Mobile) or maybe Version: 4.49.25.91 ?! i am a little confused about that. thanks for your help- and again: sorry for that dumb questions
EDIT: ok, checked the regions and for my O2 Rhodium they have shipped the .91 version and the one i have only. so is it better to upgrade to 91?

Noob Radio question???
JackJTP said:
another noob question- i was looking for why to upgrade the radio version. didnt find an answer i couldnt understand.
any suggestions if i should and what radio rom i should use? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
Version: 4.49.25.88 (HTC, T-Mobile) or maybe Version: 4.49.25.91 ?! i am a little confused about that. thanks for your help- and again: sorry for that dumb questions
EDIT: ok, checked the regions and for my O2 Rhodium they have shipped the .91 version and the one i have only. so is it better to upgrade to 91?
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Honestly, I think the whole finding the right radio for a particular ROM is that of trial and error. I know most chefs will suggest a particular radio that will work well with their ROMs.
I would stick with the most up to date radio, but if you get symptoms like the mic stops working (they can't hear you, but you hear them), or GPS/WiFi doesn't work, then change to another carrier friendly radio ( I don't know what works on O2 being in the US) or back to a known working stock radio.
Hope this helps.