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O2 in "possibly got it right with IIs" shock

So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
First off, the colour of the O2 version is very nice (I think the II is looking old fashioned already). The case is ok (I'm not a case fan, I prefer to just lug it around in my pocket).
The keyboard is probably far too fiddly to ever get used by my normal sized pinkies but the blue backlight means that it will look good next to my PS2 even without BT turned on!!!!
The software seems to be up to scratch too, they've even added a decent battery life monitor to the Active and Today screens (The Active screen actually seems fairly usefull this time round!). Not had much of a play with the additional software, apart from those that came with the latest Xda II ROM upgrade ("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??), but the GPRS monitor is a welcome addition.
Now onto what, for me, is the most essential part - WiFi and Bluetooth. Let's not beat around the bush, the II was rubbish for both, only really with the latest ROM was the II capable of anything like decent performance with BT Headsets and still didn't support Handsfree. As for WiFi, I used a Sandisk SD card with my II and it was a pain to connect.
Whilst waiting for the release of the IIs we've been playing with iPaq 4150's which have great BT & WiFi tools that even our execs could use!
*WiFi*
Turned the phone on at home and it immediatly sniffed my network (Linksys router) and asking to connect prompted me for my encryption key followed by faultless connection to the internet. Exxxxcelent
*Bluetooth*
My boss had a Nokia CK-7W carkit fitted a few weeks ago, oh how we laughed when the latest II ROM still rendered the II useless in his car!!!! So it was with slight trepidation that we turned the ignition on only for the IIs to find/bond and work perfectly with the kit at first time of asking.
So all in all I'd say that O2 must have actually been listening to us after all (despite not updating the website FAQ's properly since the original Xda). We have a few very good contacts within O2 and had seen a fair amount of info prior to release and received assurances on the above functionality, but I have to say that I didn't believe it till I saw it all with my own eyes!!
Now for some serious testing to see if it's beauty goes further than skin deep

Re: O2 in "possibly got it right" shock
Nice report
irblinx said:
...("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??)...
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:lol: similar experience when my friend was trying out the Fonix voice stuff on his XDA II. We were in stitches at his attempts to phone my mobile (with "Phone Dave Mobile") and it either not understanding or coming up with a suggestion which was hard to see why it thought it sounded like it. It even suggested a number for my friend's expletive of "Oh f**k this" :roll:

lol,fonix is hours of fun for all the family ........... cos it could ring any one of them when you're trying to phone your boss!
The next big test for the IIs will be the built in BT phone kit in the 5 series BMW, hopefully one of our directors will be around today to give it a go.

does the bluetooth in new XDA IIs support audio through your headset?

it would be great if it did, but i doubt it

WiFi / gprs bridging
Can the gprs internet connection be shared out through the WiFi? I'd like my notebook to see it as an access point and use it's network access. Never got this to work with xdaII bluetooth and my powerbook, Apple's BT stack doesn't recognize the widcomm bt "server".
I'll buy one tomorrow if it can bridge the 802.11 and the gprs!

Audio through your headset? not sure what you're wanting it to do here but I'll list the options on the BT new connection Wizard
Hands-free/Headset Setup
ActiveSync
Browse Files on a remote device
Connect to a network
Join a personal network
Exchange Business Cards
Explore a Bluetooth device
As for sharing the GPRS connection via WiFi, it may be possible if you set the connection on the Xda to NOT connect to the internet, otherwise the WiFi settings seem to overide GPRS. Sorry not much help! Couldn't you link them up with BT instead?
GOOD NEWS though
Successfully paired up the IIs with a BMW X5's built in BT phone stuff so it's another tick in the box for O2

Can you hear your MP3's or tomtom voice through your bluetooth headset?

no

irblinx said:
So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
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Hi there
great report
just a quick question..........I have been ringing o2 daily to enquire about the arrival and keep getting told that it is 'next week'........where did you get your unit from ?? I tried o2 Salisbury on Thursday and they told me that they hadn't received a release date yet !!
cheers!

The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did

Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.

churchwa said:
The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did
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Just rang o2....allegedly it will leave tomorrow for delivery Tuesday !!!
thanks for letting me know !

NP, what sort of a deal did they give you? (If you don't mind me asking?)

xda-rocks said:
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.
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I would also need them... please

I ordered ours through our dedicated o2 business team at the beginning of the week, as our commodity manager sent us the product code when the launch got delayed (internal pakaging problems!). The advantages of working for a big company with a corporate o2 deal!
Price wise we don't do so well on hardware, prob cos we pay next to nothing for line rental, I think they were 350 gbp each (ever noticed how u don't pay as much attention when it's not your money?), all "in contract upgrades". I'll double check when I get to work.
Anyhoo, a big box arrived on Thurs and opening it revealed 11 cool gadgets! Still waiting for the accessories to be released though.
I'll check for the cab file later.

Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files
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How to do it?

Unlock extRom using the unlock tool attached.
reset device
Browse to the extended rom from your desktop computer and copy the files - zip them up and post them here.

is extended rom unlocker the same for Himalaya and Blue Angel?

It unhides both, but it doesn't unlock the Blue Angel. But you can copy the files out of the extROM once you can see them.

Reverse Tether?

Is it possible to use my computers internet when plugged into the USB? At work I don't get very good signal strength and would love tobe able to use the 25mbit fiber on my EVO.

On a Mac you can use internet connection sharing under Sharing in the System Preferences. The connection will be via WiFi though, not USB.
Not sure about on a Windows machine. Doesn't your work have WiFi? If not you could always bring your own router and have it not broadcast its SSID.

Yeah we do have WiFi but I get poor signal down in the "dungeon" where I work, and it's only on a T-1 a select few of us have access to the 25mbit connection, and my boss wouldn't look too kindly on me putting a wifi router on it.
gthing said:
On a Mac you can use internet connection sharing under Sharing in the System Preferences. The connection will be via WiFi though, not USB.
Not sure about on a Windows machine. Doesn't your work have WiFi? If not you could always bring your own router and have it not broadcast its SSID.
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I found lots of other threads with people asking this question all over the internet. I guess it's not possible right now. I ended up buying one of these:
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=346
I can see it coming in handy other ways too. Not too bad for $54

mhaner said:
I found lots of other threads with people asking this question all over the internet. I guess it's not possible right now. I ended up buying one of these:
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=346
I can see it coming in handy other ways too. Not too bad for $54
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For anyone on the market, any router that supports DD-WRT can be configured to be extremely flexible.
I think I even saw a Wireless-N for like $20-30 on NewEgg.com

Neotelos_com said:
For anyone on the market, any router that supports DD-WRT can be configured to be extremely flexible.
I think I even saw a Wireless-N for like $20-30 on NewEgg.com
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True, but this one is nice and portable. I run 2 DD-WRT routers at home (one works as a wireless bridge for my Xbox360, BluRay Player, DVR and HTPC), but neither of them are nice small and compact like this is.

mhaner said:
I found lots of other threads with people asking this question all over the internet. I guess it's not possible right now. I ended up buying one of these:
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=346
I can see it coming in handy other ways too. Not too bad for $54
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If you are plugging this into your work's network and extending it over WiFi, you had better make sure that you have passed this by your IT department first. Pulling a stunt like this at my place of business will get you fired on the spot unless you are really, REALLY lucky...

Neotelos_com said:
For anyone on the market, any router that supports DD-WRT can be configured to be extremely flexible.
I think I even saw a Wireless-N for like $20-30 on NewEgg.com
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A DD-WRT ready N router for $20-$30? Link, please!

Fancy_Lad said:
If you are plugging this into your work's network and extending it over WiFi, you had better make sure that you have passed this by your IT department first. Pulling a stunt like this at my place of business will get you fired on the spot unless you are really, REALLY lucky...
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I AM in the IT department.. heh...

Torque/OBD2 bluetooth adapter?

Anyone tried this on their EVO? I just ordered up a bluetooth adapter from ebay for $20. Wondering if it works or if I wasted my money. Supposed to be able to read dtc's and clear them if the cel light is on. If you have tried it let new know your experience. Include what bluetooth adapter you used and what kind if car you were working on.
thanks in advanced.
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I personally haven't tried it, but if its bluetooth compatible [which the evo is] it should work. Sometimes I use my laptop as my evo "speakers" when I'm bored.

teh roxxorz said:
I personally haven't tried it, but if its bluetooth compatible [which the evo is] it should work. Sometimes I use my laptop as my evo "speakers" when I'm bored.
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?? I know the evo is bluetooth. :-} thats off topic but how do you do that? don't know if it is very useful but my laptop has bluetooth built in. interested to know.
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gzibell said:
?? I know the evo is bluetooth. :-} thats off topic but how do you do that? don't know if it is very useful but my laptop has bluetooth built in. interested to know.
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Well I'm just saying the device should be able to read the internal flags of the system [if led is on ect], and do all the fancy things it should, so I think you're all set. As far as the "headset" goes:
1. Turn on bluetooth on both devices, make sure both are discoverable
2. On the phone, scan devices, it should find your computer, and click pair, it'll show you a code, right it down just in case it doesn't fall through in the next step
3. Wait about 30 seconds and you should get a notification of a device trying to connect to your computer, click it, and it should have the same pairing code, click okay and you should be done
Now, on the phone, start playing music, and it should say "playing through blue tooth headset"

I just got mines in the mail 2 days ago. I plan to play around with it today after I get out of class. I own a 96 Accord and a 07 Altima that I will be testing it on. The OBDII BT sensor I have came with a mini disc.
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gqstatus0685 said:
I just got mines in the mail 2 days ago. I plan to play around with it today after I get out of class. I own a 96 Accord and a 07 Altima that I will be testing it on. The OBDII BT sensor I have came with a mini disc.
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Let me know how it works out for you! I am excited to get mine in the mail to test but I just ordered 2 days ago. 10-21 days for shipping from china. Hope I didn't get ripped off.

Post results and link to device you bought. Would like to know how well it works.

I am using http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MQ89X4/ref=oss_product and it works really well with Torque. Torque does keep telling that it isnt recieving data properly sometimes when looking in the settings but I havn't noticed any issues. I love it. Used it to figure out my MPG at different speeds

I'm using this $20 adapter with Torque. Worked so well that I had to buy another. My friend kept my first one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BLUE...t=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item336441a084
Torque is excellent. It does everything I need. It will clear the codes and will show the readiness indicators so you can know when it's ready to go in for your emissions check.

I have an 07 Legacy GT with a Cobb AP. I have been thinking of diving into this arena so I will be following this closely.

workd freaking awesome... been using it to pull CEL codes for a while.... though it is very vehicle ecu dependent... not all ecu obd connections send all the good stuff...
08 ranger wont send timing info... where as 09 civic si does...
it works real well to see if GPS and car Speedo are synced...
little things like that kinda bother me but not like you need it unless you are tuneing the car for performance... or something...

I've had a great experience with this combo. Saved me a bunch of money from buying a standalone reader that can only tell you the CEL codes.
I've used it on my 03 sentra to monitor my o2 sensors, clear codes, read codes, and just playing with other things. Can't remember which adapter i bought, but all those china ones are so similar it won't matter much

tdusen said:
I'm using this $20 adapter with Torque. Worked so well that I had to buy another. My friend kept my first one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BLUE...t=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item336441a084
Torque is excellent. It does everything I need. It will clear the codes and will show the readiness indicators so you can know when it's ready to go in for your emissions check.
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Bought the exact same one as this, works great on the 05 outback xt, 02 wrx, 04 sti and 08 mini cooper S at home. The software keeps getting better and better.

Finally got my 20 dollar adapter from china. Works great on my pontiac gp. Just have to test it out some more.
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brandenk said:
I have an 07 Legacy GT with a Cobb AP. I have been thinking of diving into this arena so I will be following this closely.
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hallo fellow subie owner
I traded my 05 LGT for an 08 WRX two yrs ago and really miss that LGT
anyone else try this thing.
I too have been contemplating picking up an adapter. are they one size fits all?

lacrossev said:
Bought the exact same one as this, works great on the 05 outback xt, 02 wrx, 04 sti and 08 mini cooper S at home. The software keeps getting better and better.
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SWEET!!!!!!! I was just wondering if would work with my 03 WRX. Kinda weird the amount of Subaru guys in this thread.
Anybody know if the guages are working and accurate? Mainly the boost.
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Drewmungus said:
SWEET!!!!!!! I was just wondering if would work with my 03 WRX. Kinda weird the amount of Subaru guys in this thread.
Anybody know if the guages are working and accurate? Mainly the boost.
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The gauges all work great for me and I believe them to be accurate. The highest boost mine has shown with the grand prix gtp is 12.2 psi. I think stock is 7 if I remember right and well mine is not stock so I think they are accurate. I couldn't resist the urge to stuff a smaller pulley on the sc to get more go fast.

I'm a small shop owner in orlando and I bought the cheap 20 adapter about. 8 months ago. It works great with the exception of some Ford vehicles get buggy with this particular adapter.
The wow factor alone is awesome when my customers watch me bust out my evo and read and clear their codes.
And the recent ui change torque just received put it over the top.
It doesn't read ABS codes as of yet.
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......

I just got a new adapter (same one as before). I was testing and thought for sure I got a bad device. Turns out it's fine. The pairing code changed.
My 1st had a pairing code of 0000, this new one is 6789. After I figured that out, it paired fine, but still couldn't talk to the car ECU.
When I got home, I tested with my 1st device to make sure everything else still worked and it did. So, before complaining, I tried the new device again. This time it worked. I think the difference was that I was in a parking garage during the first test and couldn't get a GPS fix. At home, I did get the GPS fix and everything worked.

thanks guys! I think I am going to go ahead and bite the bullet and order mine along with the anycom bluetooth to ipod dock connector.
thanks for all the input!!!

USB to LAN for S2

Hi guys,
i am in the need of having a lan port on my S2. i found these
http://www.hitechleague.com/android-tablets-accessories/usb-2-0-ethernet-adapter-rj-45
and
http://www.euogo.com/usb-lan-adapte...to-rj45-adapter-for-android-tablets_p420.html
but i don't know if they are going to work. Anyone have any opinions on this?

Interested too!

Well I've read somewhere that in theory it is possible. The only problem is you'd have to write a driver for the phone which isn't very easy.

Maybe you already know it, but if you have a laptop available you can share the lan connection via wifi with Connectify.

If you have windows 7 (vista I'm not sure of) you don't even have to use a third party program. But your wireless card should support packet injection. Sadly enough mine doesn't.
Nevertheless LAN to USB can be useful. A few weeks ago I was staying in a hotel that said it had wifi. But it didn't only via cable. I only brought my phone. So there I was alone in an alley hogging of somebodies wifi in the rain trying to congratulate my girlfriend on here graduation.
I'm really looking into a travel router now. D-link's dap 1350 for example.

Carnelain said:
If you have windows 7 (vista I'm not sure of) you don't even have to use a third party program. But your wireless card should support packet injection. Sadly enough mine doesn't.
Nevertheless LAN to USB can be useful. A few weeks ago I was staying in a hotel that said it had wifi. But it didn't only via cable. I only brought my phone. So there I was alone in an alley hogging of somebodies wifi in the rain trying to congratulate my girlfriend on here graduation.
I'm really looking into a travel router now. D-link's dap 1350 for example.
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Could explain the process? I have win 7 and an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. Had no idea I could share my connection without using a 3rd party program...

Boura.85 said:
Could explain the process? I have win 7 and an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. Had no idea I could share my connection without using a 3rd party program...
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http://lifehacker.com/5369381/turn-your-windows-7-pc-into-a-wireless-hotspot

qwerty warrior said:
http://lifehacker.com/5369381/turn-your-windows-7-pc-into-a-wireless-hotspot
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How couldn't I see that... Just an ad-hoc network... Thank you very much .

guys, if i had a laptop, i would use a laptop.
My problem is that sometimes i have a switch and a computer with a webserver with no monitor. This is why i want this.

http://www.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Routers/WL330gE/
this maybe the better bet, im using it, it is small like a pack of smoke

Thanks for the tip I might go for the 330N3G

How about a 2nd hand Apple Airport Express?

qwerty warrior said:
http://lifehacker.com/5369381/turn-your-windows-7-pc-into-a-wireless-hotspot
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Wow learnt some new things today! Thx a lot!

rob_h said:
How about a 2nd hand Apple Airport Express?
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I don't have that much experience with apple products. How does it perform?

Carnelain said:
I don't have that much experience with apple products. How does it perform?
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I only use it to stream music from my Netbook which is running iTunes but I believe it will act as a wifi hotspot and is not much bigger than a mains adaptor. If you plug it into the network then it should pick up an IP and if you have configured it at home then it will act as a normal wifi router.

[Q] ELM 327 programs for OBD-II (i.e. Torque Pro) not working with SGN / ICS?

Is anyone having luck with ELM 327 (OBD-II to Bluetooth) adapters working with their Galaxy Nexus and / or ICS?
I never had a problem with my DroidX running 2.3.X but the SGN refuses to link with the adapter. I have it paired, but will not link up once the program (Torque Pro version 1.5.28) is running. I'm able to pair and use all my other bluetooth devices, only the ELM 327 is inop when I run the Torque apk.
Any help or feedback is appreciated.

I have no issues using the free torque.
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No problem here either...
Sent from my GNex using smoke signals.

i am also in the car business,
can you guys tell me where is the best place to buy the blue tooth adapter?

Grannypotts said:
Is anyone having luck with ELM 327 (OBD-II to Bluetooth) adapters working with their Galaxy Nexus and / or ICS?
I never had a problem with my DroidX running 2.3.X but the SGN refuses to link with the adapter. I have it paired, but will not link up once the program (Torque Pro version 1.5.28) is running. I'm able to pair and use all my other bluetooth devices, only the ELM 327 is inop when I run the Torque apk.
Any help or feedback is appreciated.
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I had problems with the pro version with my previous phones but none with the free version, as others also said.
Lw00d said:
i am also in the car business,
can you guys tell me where is the best place to buy the blue tooth adapter?
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ebay is a good place, cheap too!

Thanks for the feedback. It's a little humbling having to borrow the wife's phone (which previously was mine) to scan fault codes and do data logging.
...I don't know how she can stand all those damn Words-with-Friends notifications.
Anyway, I'm going to uninstall the paid version today and try the lite version to see if it's a HW problem or a SW bug.
BTW, I bought mine off some generic wed site for $20 shipped. It works, but crashes a lot and constantly requires manual resets (i.e. pull the connector out, and then re-plug it back in). If you are just playing around with the device and occasionally using it to check codes, this is fine. But if you want to do long term data logging, this will cause major headaches and I would recommend buying a more expensive name-brand unit that has better reliability.

Did you pair with it and enter the four digit code(usually 1234)? Also torque has a mild Bluetooth adapter diagnostic section, might want to peek in there.

Yeah, I paired it with "1234" but the program (Torque) won't activate the bluetooth device when it powers up.
I'll have to check the Bluetooth adapter diagnostic section and see if there is any information in there that can help me.
Thanks.

just send the dev an email, he helped me out with some issues a while back

Goofy problem, but I figured it out.
After setting the bluetooth adapter to the ELM 327 device, it was always revert back to the 'U connect' (Chrysler) device from the wife's car even when i was in a different car that war miles away from the Chrysler.
After 'forgetting' the U connect, the ELM 327 device setting would stick. I haven't tried to repair the Chrysler yet, but im not all that concerned since the BT call quality is pretty poopy in the car.

Hi all
I'm able to use the lite version of Torque, but the pro seems to connect/disconnet immediately
i'm alone ?

Mine works perfectly...
I bought a cheap ELM327 Bluetooth of Amazon for $20 and hooked it up to Torque Pro. You have to set up the ELM327 in the device settings in Torque...

zorglub! said:
Hi all
I'm able to use the lite version of Torque, but the pro seems to connect/disconnet immediately
i'm alone ?
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Hi mi friend i' have same problem when i start torque pro is disconned,you find a issue?
Thanks.

This is an old thread, but wanted to give my $0.02 for those who reference this in the future...
The quality of the device is key - the cheaper the device, the more chances of a crash. As you upgrade your app (e.g. Torque), it likely queries the devices more often and for more data. So when you have hardware that is not a quality one, the chances of crashing are higher. If you're using it just for scanning DTCs, I would suggest using a cheaper $20 one on Amazon and ebay. If you're using it for a full scan for sensor data, real-time data, etc, then you should probably buy a more expensive one (Kiwi, Scantool, etc) that has a real ELM327 chip.