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Hello
I would like to know if the xda2i is compatible with 4Gb SD cards
Thanks
I would assume so as its a standard fit. Wont be very fast though?? Where and what kind of price are you looking at??
gingerchristopher
bit of an update. the 2i wont work with all 2g cards. so I am asuming that it wont work with the 4g. if anyone else finds out it would be good to know.
gingerchristopher :roll:
I have alpine with 2Gb Transcend card... All is OK.
I have just seen an ad for a 4Gb card on EBay advertised as compatable with the XDA 2i, I use a 150x 2Gb myself but noticed this card was also a 150x and good value at £65
As posted here I'll try the 4gb SD card we have at work tomorrow.
Yep, worked fine. It was a 4gb 150x card (£120 >.<) and it worked fine.
The XDA IIi employs the Intel's PXA272 as its core processor. The SD controller of the PXA272 currently supports one SD or SDIO card based on the standards outlined in the SD Memory Card Specification Version 1.01 and SDIO Card Specification Version 1.0 (Draft 4). Unfortunely, the maximum capacity of SD card defined in version 1.01 is only 2GB.
frankrick said:
The XDA IIi employs the Intel's PXA272 as its core processor. The SD controller of the PXA272 currently supports one SD or SDIO card based on the standards outlined in the SD Memory Card Specification Version 1.01 and SDIO Card Specification Version 1.0 (Draft 4). Unfortunely, the maximum capacity of SD card defined in version 1.01 is only 2GB.
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If you're saying the XDA IIi does not support 4Gb SD cards, you're wrong, since I tested the one that is sitting on a shelf where I work and it was fine.
flawless said:
If you're saying the XDA IIi does not support 4Gb SD cards, you're wrong, since I tested the one that is sitting on a shelf where I work and it was fine.
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Actually, I really don't know whether the XDA IIi is able to support 4GB SD card or not. I found the technical info in Intel PXA27x Processor Family Developer’s Manual and SD Specifications part1. Version 2.0 SD spec can support up to 32GB SD card but Version 1.01 only 2GB. And, the SD controller of PXA27X is built on Version 1.01.
p.s. Here are references:
1) page 16, "2. System Features", SD Specifications part1 Physical Layer Specification Version 2.00 Draft
2) page 737, "15.1 Overview", Intel PXA27x Processor Family Developer’s Manual
32Gb? How much is that going to cost?
I thought a 4Gb card was a bit excessive!
As I know, everything is ok with 4Gb.
Just bought a 4Gb Zynet 150x SD card and it seems to work fine, although I have not tried copying a whole 4Gb to it.
That was on my XDA II (since my IIi is currently having it's screen repaired!)
Incidentally, does anyone know what the max transfer speed of the II and IIi is to the SD card?
Thanks
Steve
P.S. My Casio Exilim EX-S600 can't see all 4Gb, but can write to it.
4GB sd card shows wring usage information
Hi,
I have just bought 4GB SD card for my XDA IIi, I copied all my music on them. But surprisingly enough, music and some data I have copied is total 1.9 GB, but the memory tools shows only 245MB free. where has another 1.7 GB gone? Does this mean it doesn't support 4GB?
Regards!
Narayan
Edit: Q answered
unfortunately not
hi
I bought a 4gb SD card in order to try it with my alpine.
unfortunately it isn't compatible.
ultrararegroove said:
Hello
I would like to know if the xda2i is compatible with 4Gb SD cards
Thanks
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I can verify 4Gb works well, I have been using a TOPRAM 4Gb 150x in my XDA 2i for the last 9 months or so and no issues at all currenly it has about 3.2Gb of data on but is just the same stpeed to use as my old 1Gb 150x SD. TomTom works fin, movies play well and no issues with software or MP3s just dont put any today plugins on your SD as that will affect performance.
hy guys.
i would like to know if xda IIi supports 8gb SD cards?because on ebay those are really cheap(like 15€ = cca. 20$), i know its not lots of money, but i dont want to buy something it wont work...now i have 2gb RS MMC card in it with adapter from my old nokia 6630, and works fine, just not big enough for divx movies etc
regards
Sadly 4gb is the largest non HC cards I have seen, wether micro or SD anything above 4 gb seems to be an HC and HC cards will not work (Or so everyone tells me I believe them as it is a different interface standard)
so it also work on xda II?
Sandisk, Panasonic or ....?
I recommend Transend 150x (fast) 4gb for about £55
What is the max sd size I can put on my Jamin? Is it 4G the max size?
In theory there is not a maximum size, but until you buy a particular brand and try it, you never fully know...
Noony said:
I recommend Transend 150x (fast) 4gb for about £55
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Ha, I have the same and I think it's pretty good too. Don't hesitate to buy a 4GB card - the space is never enough
4gb microSD or SD
Now I use Transcend 1Gb MMCmobile and I decide to buy card with more space.
Which one 4Gb card are complitable with Qtek S200 - microSD or SD?
I want microSD because of microSD is complitable with lastest Nokia and Benq-Siemens mobile phones so it's more universal.
So, which 4Gb microSD with adapter is fully complitable with Qtek S200? Anybody test it? Or better to buy standard (full phisical size) SD?
SD is the right choice for the Prophet, but if you intend to change your phone/PPC soon you are better off with a microSD.
I myself had a 4GB SD for my Prophet but I swapped it for a Herald/P4350. Nice device but it uses microSD. That sucks
microSD so far is only available as 2GB max. If you need 4GB of space take a SD-Card if you can live with 2GB than definitly go for microSD.
It usually comes with an adapter to be used as a SD-Card.
btw 4GB is the maximum size for the Prophet.
I am always wondering about this because I use a Dopod 818 pro, and the manufacturer's website says it supports up to 1GB SD Card. So it can support a 4GB on that model? Can any verify this for me, thanks!
centralman said:
I am always wondering about this because I use a Dopod 818 pro, and the manufacturer's website says it supports up to 1GB SD Card. So it can support a 4GB on that model? Can any verify this for me, thanks!
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Yes, 4GB SD-Card can be used by Prophet devices. I for myself used it for the last ten months without a problem. anything above 4GB I cannot guaranty. I'm not sure about SDHC-Cards if they are working in those devices.
Thanks Kelvin for your info. I will try to buy a standard 4GB SD card then. One more question, do you think the speed rating of the SD card has any effect on the performance? Would getting a 150x card be better?
Thanks Kelvin for your info. I will try to buy a standard 4GB SD card then. One more question, do you think the speed rating of the SD card has any effect on the performance? Would getting a 150x card be better?
I checked my old SD card and it was a 133x Speed. I was pleased with it. I'm not sure if the 150x performes better/faster on the Prophet, actually not even sure about the Prophet SD slot read/write performance. But in general it won't hurt going for the 150x if the price doesn't differ much from a 133x. SO GO FOR THE 150x
Thanks for your answer. Will buy it at the weekend!
It would be faster, But not on the prophet
The prophet can't use the speed since it cannot write data on a memory card so fast, Actually, Today the only speed limit is the device itself, The cards are allways getting faster and faster and faster and...........
Hello again!
I have choise between two 4Gb cards for my Prophet:
1. Transcend 4Gb Secure Digital card [MLC, 30x] (43$)
or
2. Transcend 4Gb mini Secure Digital card SDHC miniSD (43$)
or
3. Transcend 4Gb Secure Digital card 150x (50$)
Which of them is the best for Prophet (Qtek S200)?
My choise - 2nd or 3rd card (prefer 2nd because more universal) but I would like to read people's opinion. Can i feel real difference between this cards onn Prophet?
vitalis said:
Hello again!
I have choise between two 4Gb cards for my Prophet:
1. Transcend 4Gb Secure Digital card [MLC, 30x] (43$)
or
2. Transcend 4Gb mini Secure Digital card SDHC miniSD (43$)
or
3. Transcend 4Gb Secure Digital card 150x (50$)
Which of them is the best for Prophet (Qtek S200)?
My choise - 2nd or 3rd card (prefer 2nd because more universal) but I would like to read people's opinion. Can i feel real difference between this cards onn Prophet?
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Not sure if Prophet can cope with SDHC technology, probably not.
So, 4GB SD Card will recognize in my Dopod 818 Pro with still original WM5 shipped ROM?
I tried a 4gb SDHC card with my prophet today, it didn't work. I wonder if there's a patch for sdhc support.
Some info:
SD vs. SDHC
The original SD card format is limited to 2 GB of storage. That's why the SD Card Association developed the SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) format, which has the potential for much higher capacities.
Although standard SD and SDHC cards look identical in size and shape, only SDHC-compatible products will be able to accept cards using the new format. This is because the original SD format uses a "Byte Addressing" scheme, while the new format adopts a "Sector Addressing" scheme.
my question:
Is universal compatible withc sdhc ?
What size supports, witch cards are working ?
more info
The fates of Secure Digital (SD) memory cards and handhelds have been linked for years.
Obviously, there is no way to put a floppy drive or CD drive in a handheld, so companies were forced to turn to smaller formats.
SD cards were an obvious solution. They are about the size of a postage stamp, while still capable of storing megabytes of data.
Over the years, these cards have steadily increased in capacity while at the same time dropping in price.
With a bit of research, it's now possible to pick up a 2 GB card for less than a 16 MB one used to sell for.
But recently the SD format has run into a bit of a snag. This has forced a change that might -- or might not -- be significant. It all depends on the device you are using.
FAT16 vs. FAT32
The original SD cards use a format called FAT16. This is a system that is only capable of dealing with 2 GB of data.
Clearly, this was workable several years ago, when an SD card physically capable of storing that much data was barely on the horizon. But it is now outdated.
That's why the SD Card Association (SDA) has put together the specifications for a new, high-capacity SD memory card.
This is called the SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) format, and uses the FAT32 format. In its present incarnation, SDHC has a maximum capacity of 32 GB.
Aside from formatting, there are no hardware differences between SD and SDHC cards.
Past vs. Future
As many people are aware, there are already SD cards on the market that exceed the 2 GB limit, and these people are almost certainly wondering about the need for the new SDHC format.
These people should know that these cards are formatted with FAT32, not FAT16, which means that they aren't true SD cards.
In many cases, this doesn't matter, as some companies have started adding FAT32 support to their products with SD slots. But not all of them.
This is why the SDA felt the need to come up with a new name for this new format. It is supposed to ensure than anyone who buys an SD card can be confident it will work in their SD-enabled device.
Other New SDHC Features
SDHC cards are also broken up into classes based on their minimum sustained data transfer speed.
A Class 2 card can handle 2 MB/sec., a Class 4 card can handle 4 MB/sec., a Class 6 card can handle 6 MB/sec, and so on.
This allows consumers to be sure they are buying cards that meet their needs.
Other Sub-Specifications
The new SDHC specification also offers three other SD sub-specifications: SD-Audio, SD-Video, and SD-Binding.
All of these include Digital Rights Management (DRM) functions, allowing them to carry various types of files with DRM protection.
For example, SD-Binding allows wireless carriers to bind files that have been downloaded to a specific phone, and prevent unauthorized copying to other devices or computers.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=8870
well if the only difference is fat16/fat32 they should work as Universals support fat32 (my 2gb card is formatted fat32)
Midget_1990 said:
well if the only difference is fat16/fat32 they should work as Universals support fat32 (my 2gb card is formatted fat32)
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So does the htc universal support 8 GB SD card? Or will it be possible through firmware upgrade? What is the largest sd card I can plug into my htc universal (helmi aku 3.5)? And wich brand should i buy?
4GB SD Cards
Hi,
just for information, I'm running a 4GB SD 150x card which my Universal recognises, shows correctly in the 'storage card' tab of the memory app. I use it for music and mapping and have no issues, yet!
Rom 1.30.77 WWE
Radio 1.09.00
Ext Rom 1.30.176 WWE
(Must get around to an upgrade)
8 Gb
paulorosa said:
Some info:
SD vs. SDHC
The original SD card format is limited to 2 GB of storage. That's why the SD Card Association developed the SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) format, which has the potential for much higher capacities.
Although standard SD and SDHC cards look identical in size and shape, only SDHC-compatible products will be able to accept cards using the new format. This is because the original SD format uses a "Byte Addressing" scheme, while the new format adopts a "Sector Addressing" scheme.
my question:
Is universal compatible withc sdhc ?
What size supports, witch cards are working ?
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!!!sorry for my english!!!
i have 8 Gb sd card. it's work correct and compatibel with my device.
it's brand is "Transcend" 150X.
i formatted in fat 32.
XDA Exec
OS 5.1.342 (Build 15698.3.5.0)
Rom 2.50.00 WWE
Radio 1.09.00
SPB pocket plus 3.12
wisbar advance 2.0
Format with FAT16
If FAT is the only problem here, still there's a solution
1- Plug your SD into a card reader (or you can use wm_Storage or USB-HDD applications)
2- Go to PC --> Device Manager --> Disk Management, select your SD and try to re-partition it to 2GB based partitions with FAT16 as file system.
3- return it back to your device and report the result.
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I didn't try it, but I think it will work.
djmfxp said:
!!!sorry for my english!!!
i have 8 Gb sd card. it's work correct and compatibel with my device.
it's brand is "Transcend" 150X.
i formatted in fat 32.
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It's good to ear this!
Just to clarify: You are using it in a Universal with witch ROM? Helmi aku 3.5?
Good to see Portuguese around here!
Hi there,
Can I know will there a speed different between these two micro sd card:
1) 16GB class 2 Micro SDHC
2) 4GB class 2 Micro SDHC
Because I try these two card in my pc, it shows different writing speed. The second micro sdhc only took less than 10 seconds to transfer 5 songs but 16GB micro sdhc took more than 20 seconds to transfer 5 songs.
Why is that happen?
SDHC (Secure Digital High-Capacity) cards are flash memory cards with a minimum capacity of 4GB (gigabytes). SDHC cards provide removable memory for compatible digital devices including cameras, camcorders, PDAs, MP3 players and more. Secure Digital refers to a specific format within the flash card market. SDHC cards are designed for devices that are compatible with the SDHC 2.00 specification. Products designed exclusively to support previous SD specifications 1.0 and 1.1 will not be able to utilize SDHC cards.
The growing demand for high-capacity flash memory springs partially from the increasing use of high-definition video and high-resolution digital photography. SDHC cards meet the challenge of these demanding products not only by providing ample storage but also by introducing a new feature: classifications of data transfer speed (DTS). Consumers can get the best performance value out of their digital products by using flash memory cards that support the device's highest standards for data transfer speed. The SDHC specification 2.00 calls for cards to be classified according to the minimal sustained DTS as follows:
* Class 2: minimum sustained DTS of 2MB/sec
* Class 4: minimum sustained DTS of 4MB/sec
* Class 6: minimum sustained DTS of 6MB/sec
SDHC cards are classified to guarantee a specific sustained DTS. This potentially saves consumers money, as flash cards are priced not only according to capacity, but also to speed. For example, if a product's maximum DTS is 2MB/sec, dishing out extra cash for Class 4 or Class 6 SDHC cards would be a waste of money. Conversely, devices that can utilize the 4MB/sec or 6MB/sec DTR will perform significantly better with Class 4 or Class 6 SDHC cards, respectively.
Secure Digital was forced to create a new specification for SDHC cards when the previous specification topped out at a capacity of 2GB. This occurred previously when SD cards hit the 512MB wall. The new 2.00 specification should last a bit longer, as it allows SDHC cards to reach a maximum capacity of 32GB. Secure Digital is so-named because of its ability to protect copyright content through digital rights management or DRM. Because of this, it is a favored flash memory format in the audiovisual industry.
SDHC cards are about the size of a postage stamp. Insiders expect them to be available through several different manufacturers by summer 2006, and prices will vary. Before purchasing, be sure your device is compatible. There are several card formats available on the market, and devices are proprietary. If a device manual does not list SDHC cards, or state it is "SD specification 2.00 compatible," the device cannot utilize these cards.
But my both Micro SDHC cards are class 2. So should be having the same writing and reading speed right?
I get the feeling its due to size, i have a 4 and a 16 as well and get the same thing
but the 4GB card writing speed is average 1.2MB/s
And the stupid 16GB card writing speed is only average 150KB/s
There is a very big difference....
How are you copying it across? USB into Desire or adapter? (SDHC-SD Card or USB Reader)
DanTehManUK said:
How are you copying it across? USB into Desire or adapter? (SDHC-SD Card or USB Reader)
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I'm using adapter for both cards......
I want to test the speed of the cards, so i transfer some song files into the card.
I did the same for both cards, but the speed is different.
The class is just the minimum write speed, it doesn't mean that all class X cards are equal across different cards/brands. A class 2 card from brand A could be faster than a class 8 card from brand B.
Anyone know what size AND speed MicroSD card the DInc2 supports up to?
I would love a link to somewhere that gives the specs...
And maybe even a link to a good deal on cards?
Thanks!
By claiming to support microSDHC (micro secure digital high capacity, SD 2.0), they are kinda required by specification to support any card that follows the microSDHC standard. I know this doesn't always happen, but that's the way it SHOULD be.
With that said, I have a 32gb class 4 card in my I2. 32gb is the limit to the microSDHC (rather, limit to SD 2.0) standard, so I suspect any microSDHC card will work.
There is no explicit support for microSDXC (micro secure digital extended capacity, SD 3.0 and 4.0, the standard that allows for up to 2tb capacity by its definition, though I think 128gb is the biggest available at the moment, and those are expensive and hard to find). Apparently the specifications allow for SDHC (and microSDHC) hosts to support SDXC cards at SDHC speeds as long as the host supports a filesystem that can format a volume larger than 32gb (FAT32 has some addressing and table allocation limits, which is why Microsoft stopped using it for primary volumes). Considering Android uses FAT32 and not exFAT (Microsoft updated version of FAT that is more efficient with larger volumes, doesn't have the low addressing limits, and optimized for flash media), I would not count on it properly supporting SDXC quite yet.
I found a Spec List that at least confirms your 32GB figure, but I am still in the dark about what class the DInc2 supports up to.
Anyone?
Anyone?
It SHOULD (key word: should) support up to class 10. However, this may be dependent on model of card. I know the Eris would work with some class 6 cards in the higher capacities, and not others, and would only work with lower capacity class 10 cards.
Best I can suggest is to buy and try. Make sure you buy from somewhere with a good return policy so that you can return a card that doesn't work with your I2. I will say the Kingston Class 4 32gb card has no problem handling the 720p recording.
Is there a way to check what kind of data transfer rates are occurring? Or would the card be unusable/unrecognized if the class was unsupported effectively letting me know?
If the controller/device supports a higher class card, it will work with it at the highest speed possible, either limited by the card or the controller.
If the device doesn't like the card, you'll generally know pretty quickly. I've only seen one instance of a device not handling a card well and displaying that fact through data corruption and it wasn't with an Android device (it was a cheap digital camera). On the Eris, the card just wouldn't be read/would indicate it's bad.