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Need Help: Navigon 6.2 on XDA orbit

Hi,
can anyone tell me, how to get Navigon 6 on the Orbit (WM6) to find the internal GPS? Navigon works, but won't find the GPS signal and so it's useless...
TT works out of the box after upgrade.
Or do I need a port splitter as for GPSTuner?
Under WM5 I had the same problem...
regards,
Stefan

SurfaceCleanerZ said:
... find the internal GPS?
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Did you try the internal com 4?
I think the gps is set to com 4 by default...

Hello, i tried it and MN6 found´s the GPS. But do not spend mor time in this problem. The Artemis is to slow für MN6. I´ve overclocked to 260Mhz and it to slow too for a normal navigation. iGo 2006 or TomTom works better on the device!
Rgds
MyPass

I also find iGo too slow also... TomTom is much quicker.

But TT has no features, no speed display, bad menu, no pois...
Its really a big problem for me, I come from an WM2k3 400MHz PPC which is fast enough for Navigon

SurfaceCleanerZ said:
But TT has no features, no speed display, bad menu, no pois...
Its really a big problem for me, I come from an WM2k3 400MHz PPC which is fast enough for Navigon
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huh?
TT HAS POI's, Speed display, and the fastest menu... the only thing it doesnt have is TMC which I like about Navogin. (very slow with me also)

How do I activate the display of speed limits for the road I'm currently on?
I know that there are some pois on the TT homepage to load, I didn't try them, yet. I needed them a few weeks ago, when I needed a bank and realized that o2 didn't deliver it...
How do I activate the display of my actual speed?
Is Navigon TMC with headset connected working for you?
Navigon 6.2 works for me, I think. But I didn't navigate with it, yet.
regards,
Stefan

Du musst mal in den ganzen Einstellungsdialogen gucken. Wo genau weiß ich jetzt auch nicht mehr, aber es ist definitiv möglich, dass die aktuelle Geschwindigkeit angezeigt wird - bei mir hab ich das auch aktiviert.
Kostenloses POIs bekommst du z.B. hier: http://checkpoint.oabsoftware.nl/ Musst dich da nur anmelden. Du kannst die POIs von dort herunterladen und dann direkt in den Kartenordner von TomTom kopieren oder du verwendest deren Software, die mit der du dann direkt von deinem Gerät aus die POIs herunterlädst und individuell einstellen kannst (z.B. ab wievielen Metern er dich mit welchem Sound vor einem Blitzer warnen soll)

aber skinnen wie mn5 kann man TT nicht, oder?
Ich fand die Anzeige der Geschwindigkeitszonen bei MN5 echt nützlich. Und auch so Dinge wie auf den Bildschirm clicken und dort direkt Tonaus und Nachtmodus zu haben war sinnvoll.
Naja werde es noch mal testen und gucken, ob ich die Einstellung finde.
Danke für die Tips!
Stefan

...you probably have to buy it and it will work...;-)) for sure!

What do you want to tell me? TT6 is included in the o2 Orbit package (but without any POI)!
And Navigon is just a test version from the Navigon page!
regards,
Stefan

Speed and POIs
You can activate the speed display by going into the menu and clicking "Change Preferences". Then scroll the page across 3 times and tap "status bar preferences" and select "speed" (and any of the others if you like), click done and accept the disclaimer. Speed should now be showing like a fraction, where the number on the left is your actual speed and the number on the right is the speed limit of the road you are currently travelling on.
As for POIs, I have uploaded my collection for you to download, although seeing as you are German, they may be of no use to you as they are for the UK map. However, they are here for anybody else to download if they are any use to anybody. I have compressed the file into *.rar format. Compressed, it is 1.3MB, uncompressed folder size is 2.5MB. Surprisingly small as there are around 275 POI categories. However, TomTom can only have so many enabled at one time so I leave them as they are in the folder on my storage card and copy them over to the folder containing my uk map if and when I require them. Doesn't take a sec and they're worth having in reserve. You never know when you might wanna find a strip bar (...for example!)
Here is the link...
HTML:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4KG7NP6M
AND JUST FOR CONVENIENCE HERE IT IS AGAIN ROUGHLY TRANSLATED INTO IN GERMAN...
Du kannst die Geschwindigkeit Anzeige aktivieren, indem Sie in das Menü und klickenden „in die änderung Präferenzen“ einsteigen. Dann scroll die Seite über 3mal und „Statusstabpräferenzen“ klopfen und „Geschwindigkeit“ vorwählen (und irgendwelche von den anderen, wenn du magst), getan klicken und den Verzicht annehmen. Geschwindigkeit sollte wie ein Bruch jetzt darstellen, in dem die Zahl auf dem links deine tatsächliche Geschwindigkeit ist und die Zahl auf dem Recht die Höchstgeschwindigkeit auf die Straße ist, die du z.Z. an reist.
Was POIs anbetrifft, ich habe gehochladen meine Ansammlung, damit du downloadest, obgleich sehend, da du deutsch bist, sie zu dir unbrauchbar sein können, während sie für das BRITISCHE Diagramm sind. Jedoch sind sie hier für zu downloaden jedes, sonst, wenn sie irgendein Gebrauch zu jedem sind. Ich habe die Akte in *.rar Format zusammengedrückt. Komprimiert, ist es 1.3MB, uncompressed Heftgröße ist 2.5MB. Überraschend klein als gibt es herum 275 POI Kategorien. Jedoch kann TomTom nur haben, also ermöglichten viele auf einmal, also lasse ich sie, während sie im Heft auf meiner Speicherkarte und sie zum Heft rüber zu kopieren sind, das mein britisches Diagramm wenn enthält und wenn ich sie benötige. Dauert nicht eine sek und sie sind wert, in der Reserve zu haben. Du weißt nie, als du einen Streifenstab finden wünschen konntest (… zum Beispiel!)
Ist hier die Verbindung…
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4KG7NP6M

Hi,
Thank you for your answer! Englisch is ok, your translation is really funny ;-)
I'll have a look at it!
But no time for testing in the next days!
regards,
Stefan

Translation!
Not my translation, Google's Translation! I translated back from it's own translation of German back to English and it came back completely different! Nevermind. You get the idea. Hope it helps.

SurfaceCleanerZ said:
How do I activate the display of speed limits for the road I'm currently on?
I know that there are some pois on the TT homepage to load, I didn't try them, yet. I needed them a few weeks ago, when I needed a bank and realized that o2 didn't deliver it...
How do I activate the display of my actual speed?
Is Navigon TMC with headset connected working for you?
Navigon 6.2 works for me, I think. But I didn't navigate with it, yet.
regards,
Stefan
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Can i use the headset as a TMC Device? Does anyone have this working (TMC -Navigon)?
I installed Navigon today, Really awesome, i like it lots better than TOM Tom.
And the speed of Version 6,2 is the same as the TT software i thinks. It is at least my opinion.
I have all POI's active and it is fast for me, and i do not have my HTC p3300 Overclocked. (Running Fracoons ROM, Thanks again Mark)
I would like to use the TMC function as well.
Can someone help me out here?
Thanks
Tim

Hello,
MN6 works good, but loading it, lasts 4 times as long as loading TT, I think. Navigation is quick enough, no problems during 650km, I used it yet.
Adaptors for using the car loader and the headset as antenna for radio are available at ebay in china.
Is there anybody with the newest radio fw., who can test it? For the test, running on battery is possible, the adaptor is only for daily use and the comfort of loading while driving...
regards,
Stefan

SurfaceCleanerZ said:
How do I activate the display of speed limits for the road I'm currently on?
How do I activate the display of my actual speed?
Is Navigon TMC with headset connected working for you?
Navigon 6.2 works for me, I think. But I didn't navigate with it, yet.
regards,
Stefan
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Right. I've got Navigon 5 and I was informed by Navigon that their V6 software needed a 500mhz PPC, which is why on my Hermes/Tytn I've stuck to v5 and not upgraded.
I'm not sure if it's changed for v6 over v5 but if you go into the settings and activate the "Info Bar" then that shows your speed.
As for POIs you can either load them in manually from whereever you download them but you might find it better to get POI Handler, get a years subscription to the POIs and get them that way. An extra £20 I beleive.
I tried it for a year and actually reverted back as I felt it slowed the PDA down and to be honest, being a Professional Driver for a living it was in my interest to notice things like speed cameras with my own eyes without the use of satnav, but it does mean I stick to more speed limits
One thing I would like to know from Navigon is if I can get updated maps for v5 as I'm not going to upgrade to 6 but want newer maps. Seems silly that they dont keep the software the same but just update the data
Ahh, good luck
As for TMC, sorry, never tried it.
You might want to try such software as GPSDash 2 as well, it gives a lot of information there for when you're driving and you don't need satnav
I take it you've found your internal GPS com port? If you havent then just get the software to scan...
Cheers, Elwyn

And yes, I prefer it to TomTom too. I had mine set to "Truck" last night and it took us a decent truck route. The "Car" took us down some narrow backroads that were a wee bit tight So we stayed on Truck and stayed sane
Do you know how embarassing it is to jam a lorry in a lane

I had a play around the other week.
I've always used Tomtom, so I tried some others... iGo was too fiddly, as was Copilot. Navigon worked, but took absolutely ages to start up - it was Ok, but nothing special. Route66 is interesting, and in my opinion really quite good - it has free live traffic, a really nice speed camera implementation, but does not let you manually edit your route, so I'm back with TomTom!

TangerineTractor said:
...Navigon worked, but took absolutely ages to start up - it was Ok, but nothing special...
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Yeah, I've found that in the past. Just do a soft reset. Something to do with files in use or something. It has it's good days and bad days. Yesterday I opened and closed the software properly all night and it was only towards the latter half of the run, 7 hours into the shift that it locked up. Soft reset. Swear at it, and then take a tacho break
For the most part it's been pretty reliable, but I always carry maps as backup as I still don't trust the routings on whatever satnav.
Although apparently TT don't have a "truck" option, which yesterday brought a few people to enquire about it and the software.

Is there a program record with GPS which way you are going and such

I wonder if there are a program for WM that can record where you are going, which way, speed and such. Would be awesome to see what you have been doing if you take a tour with the bike or car or just a walk. Especially if this could be connected to Google Map!
Anyone know of any good program to do this?

Har du testat detta? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527945
Jag har inte provat det men det verkar som det gör ungefär det du är ute efter.
Sorry that I wrote the reply in Swedish

or yes search,
there's loads of them out there.. Gpscyclecomputer by Andy Zap is one of my favourites..
latest versions even have options to download maps on the fly, in case you get a bit lost ;p

Sure I could search but why when there is a forum full of ppl knowing stuff like this?
Anyway, thanx for the tip! Ill try this program later today!
fards said:
or yes search,
there's loads of them out there.. Gpscyclecomputer by Andy Zap is one of my favourites..
latest versions even have options to download maps on the fly, in case you get a bit lost ;p
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for sports
Try smartrunner from smartrunner.de, it´s german.
The best app, i think.
i´m german ;-)

Try this one out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423

I tried GPS Cycle Computer and it worked perfect! Great to see where you hade been with Google map later!

Norwegian keyboard and T9 Windows Mobile 6.5

Is there any possibilities get Norwegian keyboard and T9 dictionary working on HTC Blackstone running windows mobile 6.5. I would like to keep the original layout of the keyboard just need the Norwegian special characters Æ, Ø and Å and T9 dictionary in Norwegian.
Do not want to use Fingerkeboard.

GIIF!
Hope somebody can fix that problem, I need it to

Have you tried FingerKeyboard? Supports a multitude of languages including Norwegian

For norwegian T9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402121
If missing norwegian language files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3304868&postcount=5
Source:
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?showtopic=1054899

Thanks man !

DOES NOT WORK!
It totally disabled my phonepad input writing. I press the keys but nothings get recognized. Only the keyboard works now.

I got the same problems.
No input when using T9, danish language.

Hei Fingerkeyboard har en T9 liste som lærer seg de mest brukte ord (Som på en SE)
Mener å huske at det er en noe begrenset liste med norske ord i den og
Sorry for Norwegian language but hey i kan write it

Det finnes mange gode ROM med T9.
can anbefale dutty sine.

Visitor Messages / Profile Messages - feature removed?

Hi,
I were about to update my profile/visitor message which showed what I use on/with my phone but I can't see them anymore!
Did you remove the feature? Do I have to put everything in my signature like all the other n00bs do to stretch the posts?

Hehe, nur weil du Moderator im größten deutschen Handy-Forum bist, heißt das noch lange nicht, dass du andere als Noobs bezeichnen darfst, besonders da du gerade selber eine noobische Frage stellst .
It does seem that visitor messaging has been disabled, but I never found it useful anyway.

Is it possible to bring it back? Please admins.
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Haha xD Da hast du dich mit deiner überdimensionalen Signatur wohl gleich angesprochen gefühlt
Meine Frage war berechtigt weil ich das zurück haben möchte

I'd probably contact svetius or Mike (mikechannon) on this, they're the forum admins .

We disabled it because we found that the vast majority of users don't use it. Disabling it means that your User CP loads a bit faster, and also it's one last thing to cause undo load on our servers.
If there's a huge number of you that disagree with this action, we can reconsider, but again, our understanding was that it was a generally unused feature - most people just use Private Messages.

I agree, there's really no need for visitor messaging, it's just confusing and usually either PMs or posts in the specific thread are better. But from what I see, the OP wanted to use it to display information about his phone, so maybe you could add an option to choose a phone model and providing some info about it (ROM etc.), like the operator/country logos.

svetius said:
but again, our understanding was that it was a generally unused feature - most people just use Private Messages.
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Okay I can understand that.. Could you atleast add more profile fields like
Firmware/ROM:
Phone: (actually not needed because of the many subforums)

In regards to our German speaking Friends:
-please translate fully..
Da sind hier ja auch Mods die Deutsch plaudern
(for the non-Germans: we have moderators who actually speak German )

svetius said:
We disabled it because we found that the vast majority of users don't use it. Disabling it means that your User CP loads a bit faster, and also it's one last thing to cause undo load on our servers.
If there's a huge number of you that disagree with this action, we can reconsider, but again, our understanding was that it was a generally unused feature - most people just use Private Messages.
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Completely agree to leave it disabled
the-equinoxe said:
In regards to our German speaking Friends:
-please translate fully..
Da sind hier ja auch Mods die Deutsch plaudern
(for the non-Germans: we have moderators who actually speak German )
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Neither do I
Habla Español

the-equinoxe said:
In regards to our German speaking Friends:
-please translate fully..
Da sind hier ja auch Mods die Deutsch plaudern
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Didn't know you speak German .

Livven said:
Didn't know you speak German .
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Nearly all Dutch people can speak German

I guess that living in a country with a less common language does have its benefits - if you live in England, you most probably won't know that many foreign languages, but if you live in Netherlands, you not only learn English but even German. Do you speak it, BTW?

Yes that must be the cause, but it also depends on how far a country is 'cultured' I think.
Well my German isn't very good, but I can speak it good enough to be understandable.
My French is much better than my German though.

Wow, how many languages do you speak? Dutch, English, German, French...

Livven said:
Wow, how many languages do you speak? Dutch, English, German, French...
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Exactly! But they're all working about the same grammatically, so for example Chinese is a much harder language
But we're going way offtopic!

back to topic please?!
Sonst gibts ärger. ;D

ahhhh can you at least temporarily restore it? I had created a list of trusted/recommended traders there :/

I suggest you contact either svetius or mikechannon about this, I am not sure if it's possible to restore the information, but most likely they made a backup of it.
Btw it should've been better if the admins had warned first before proceeding with desabling the system, but that's just my opinion.

Agreed with the guy above.

It would be really cool, like Livven said, if we could get our phone to show up on our profile.
I would actually like to see it on posts as I think it's more important than a user's join date, and quite a lot of members don't include it in their sig.

Email client and "Search on server" function missing...

Hi,
the great "Search on server" function available on serach screen of client email seems disappeared after the last official ROM update.
This sucks!
Anybody found this issue?
PS Meanwhile I opened a support ticket on HTC site...
Thanks!

I've just noticed that, what a pain that is, I didn't use it m,uch but it was damn useful when I did.

It's true!
... a very odd decision because search on server was one of the most business oriented functions...
Please reactivate it!

Hello! (1st post)
I would like to revive this thread. Is there anything we can do make them bring that function back? I used it allot and is missing it dearly!

I don't know...
I opened a ticket for this issue at HTC support and the answer was: clean, reset and hard reset the phone. If the issue won't be resolved please re-contact us.
Obviously I did not follow the odd given solution.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

That's the standard answer to get rid of the troublesome customer. "That will ceep em' away for a while, and I hope he doesn't call back...".
I've seen a couple of Hero upgrade to 2.1 update-1 and the function isn't present there either.
What I really would like HTC to answer is if they are going to put it back in like 2.1 update-X, 2.2...?
I also have a ticket open with HTC on this subject. They are investigating for the moment they say.

Was in contact with the Swedish HTC-support today again. I sort of demanded an answer on this issue. Later in the day responded with the following.
Bo
(Nordics Support
(Tech)): "Tack för ditt svar. Den försvann därför att vi fann den alltför buggig och därför inte uppfyllde de krav på stabilitet som HTC kräver. Huruvida den kommer tillbaka kan jag inte svara på men jag kan framföra till utvecklingsavdelningen att det är en funktion som våra kunder finner mycket användbar och vill ha tillbaka. Du kan inte göra mer än vad du har gjort.".
Which translates to (Google Translate): "Thanks for your reply. The disappeared because we found it too buggy and therefore did not meet the requirements for stability as HTC calls. Whether it coming back, I can not answer but I can make to the development team that is a feature that our customers find very useful and want it back. You can not do more than what you have done."

iorx said:
Was in contact with the Swedish HTC-support today again. I sort of demanded an answer on this issue. Later in the day responded with the following.
Bo
(Nordics Support
(Tech)): "Tack för ditt svar. Den försvann därför att vi fann den alltför buggig och därför inte uppfyllde de krav på stabilitet som HTC kräver. Huruvida den kommer tillbaka kan jag inte svara på men jag kan framföra till utvecklingsavdelningen att det är en funktion som våra kunder finner mycket användbar och vill ha tillbaka. Du kan inte göra mer än vad du har gjort.".
Which translates to (Google Translate): "Thanks for your reply. The disappeared because we found it too buggy and therefore did not meet the requirements for stability as HTC calls. Whether it coming back, I can not answer but I can make to the development team that is a feature that our customers find very useful and want it back. You can not do more than what you have done."
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Thanks for that news.
It doesn't need anything else but hoping a coming back of that function.
OT @iorx: I'll be in your country for the first time and for holidays next week, I'm sure I'll get a lot of fun. Bye