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Hi everyone,
I've been going through the numerous threads talking about different versions of ROMs for wm6(on XDA EXEC). As a newbie, I would appreciate if you could help/suggest me the safest way and the best/latest WM6 Rom. I see different threads talking about upgrading using the bootloader method. However, the downloaded ROMs (XDA_Exec_WWE_20108_20301_11300_wwe_ship) have a inbuilt installer. I'm confused and wondering if bootloader was an older method used while having the inbuilt installer(exe) is the lates one.
I know some of you would refer me to already existing threads here which I've already gone through and thats what is causing the confusion to me.
Thanks
Rajat
that rom upgrade you mentioned the file name of is the newest released and easiest to install. just connect to active sync and run the upgrade, that's basically it.
There are a couple of additions to that just to be on the safe side...
1. Make sure battery fully charged before flash
2. Remove SIM card and SD card
... then, flash away.
Basically with ROM updates, there are OEM releases from your provider which are bundled packages consisting of Radio, OS, and ExtROM updates. Then there are the ROMs here written by the developers who mostly release just the OS ROM for you to install to give you choice on the other components (this is where bootloader is required). Jwright has released a full package in his latest WM6 release which does not require bootloader.
It's all quite straightforward if a little nerve racking at first, and well done for not blindly flashing before doing a little research.
Each developer's ROM will have different features and add-on's. Each radio seems to perform differently depending on geographics (don't quote me on that, just appears work for some, not others) and each ExtROM will contain further optional add-on CAB's or blank so you can use as storage.
You really have to read each release thread and work out if the components included match closely enough with your requirements... then read through some of the thread to see what tweaks are necessary, freezing problems, etc and take it from there.
I've tried all but one of the WM6 ROMs and they are all great, but each different too, and Jwright's suits my needs best, and is the most stable with my installed apps and tweaks, but this may not be the case for you.
Don't be put off by bootloader. It's just for developed ROMs not packaged with an installer like you say.
My advice: Stick with your current Radio! Start with a OS ROM flash that you like the sound of. My personal favourites are Midget's and Jwright's. One thing I can say for sure is that any one of the developed ROM's will completely change your device's performance and capabilities compared to your operator's releases!!!
Hope it helps, and good luck
What exactly does WWE Rom mean
Please pardon my ignorance. I have gone through most of the posts but could not find a clear explaination giving the difference between WWE Rom and other ROMs. Could anyone explain.
Where can I get the WM6 rom from, as I had a look on the FTP site and couldn't find the one mentioned in the first post.
Basically, I have the O2 XDA Exec and just want to upgrade to WM6, so what are the different roms (Midget/JWright). Are there different roms for different providers?
Also, what are radio/extended/cooked/dumped roms?
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d_ranade said:
Please pardon by ignorance. I have gone through most of the posts but could not find a clear explaination giving the difference between WWE Rom and other ROMs. Could anyone explain.
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wwe means "world wide english"
aniel1 said:
wwe means "world wide english"
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Thanks aniel.
I think it is important that all people testing this rom have the best radio suited to it.
This would eliminate some of the connection issues people are clogging the forum with. Several reported user issues have been due to them using old RADIO versions that don't work well with WM6.
We need to bug fix the ROM, connection problems are more likely to be RADIO related than ROM related.
Kyphur has asked me to start a poll asking:
SHOULD THE BEST WORKING RADIO BE BUNDLED WITH THE NEXT XDA LIVE RELEASE? v0.30
What do you think?
Dumb question, but is there any "easy" way to downgrade the radio if the device needs to be sent in for warranty?
I still say no, thw whole point behind cooking ROMs is customisation, the only thing Kyphur will have to concentrate on is the OS making it better than if he had to work on radio aswell, also what happens to use people who have a new version of the radio (1.35.00.11 for example) do we have to downgrade?!
Any radio problems can be narrowed down to just the individual radio versions and not blamed on Kyphur aswell!?
I say we mix and match our OS/ExtROM/Radio etc... as we like and let Kyphur get on with developing this (already brilliant) ROM.
I think people should install the Radio ROM they prefer, not be forced into an update if it's not necessary.
Now, if we could just crack that ExtROM...
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I still say no, thw whole point behind cooking ROMs is customisation, the only thing Kyphur will have to concentrate on is the OS making it better than if he had to work on radio aswell, also what happens to use people who have a new version of the radio (1.35.00.11 for example) do we have to downgrade?!
Any radio problems can be narrowed down to just the individual radio versions and not blamed on Kyphur aswell!?
I say we mix and match our OS/ExtROM/Radio etc... as we like and let Kyphur get on with developing this (already brilliant) ROM.
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Fair points!
How about just a RADIO recommendation from Kyphur then? You're right, lets not add extra workload, just make a suggestion as to which radio instead?
Users can then make their own minds up as you suggest.
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Fair points!
How about just a RADIO recommendation from Kyphur then? You're right, lets not add extra workload, just make a suggestion as to which radio instead?
Users can then make their own minds up as you suggest.
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A radio recommendation would be a good idea, like at the moment I gather from numerous posts radio 1.27 and hihger would be the preferred to use.
(P.s: sorry I read my last post, looked kinda forcefull)
(not a noob but not an expert :s)
what is the best radio to use tho? hehe
if i go to the wiki page download the 1.35.00.11 Download note: GPS Enabled!
run it
(same installer as for the rom)
and i go for it?
will it change anything to the current config?
thx a Lot
Kartboy said:
(not a noob but not an expert :s)
what is the best radio to use tho? hehe
if i go to the wiki page download the 1.35.00.11 Download note: GPS Enabled!
run it
(same installer as for the rom)
and i go for it?
will it change anything to the current config?
thx a Lot
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Test a few and find which one works best for you... It's amazing how little people are willing to experiment.
(I guess I was asking a lot of questions regarding ROM building, but that's something that could seriously screw a phone if you're not careful and I can't afford another Hermes right now!)
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A radio recommendation would be a good idea, like at the moment I gather from numerous posts radio 1.27 and hihger would be the preferred to use.
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I agree. Just recommend a min version and leave the ROM with OS only.
I can think of 2 more reasons for not bundling the radio, further to what has been said above:
1) you avoid making the upgrade process process longer and
2)if people have a preference for a particular radio (different than what is bundled), they would need to reflash their radio every time they upgrade the ROM from 0.3 to 0.4 and to 0.5, ...,etc.
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richy240 said:
Test a few and find which one works best for you... It's amazing how little people are willing to experiment.
(I guess I was asking a lot of questions regarding ROM building, but that's something that could seriously screw a phone if you're not careful and I can't afford another Hermes right now!)
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Why experiment when u got all this knowledge grouped in a forum,
not knowing if u might brick ur phone or not
IMHO radio should not be included with xda-live distribution. If flash fails while flashing OS or splash screens, nothing happens to the device, but if flash fails when flashing radio device is more dificult to unbrick.
I think the user should choose which radio he wants to have, and we do provide ways of upgrading only the radio.
An emphatic NO - don't include a radio.
1. One of the original ideas of this rom was to provide a stable OS with as few add-ons as possible.
2. This WIKI and forum encourages and helps us to learn about our phones, make informed judgements and customise to suit ourselves. OS, software, use, location etc are all user specific. What works for you doesn't work always for me.
3. There is already a suggestion of US and Rest of World roms to fix localised problems (PTT vs video). Does Kyphur then have to release these versions with & without his (our) chosen radio? Do each of these 4 roms also have to be released with & without Adobe? (now 8 roms)... etc, etc...
4. I travel all over the world with my job and I notice a good radio in UK doesn't work so well in China, Brazil, US etc. Which radio should I vote for? Or should we release the above rom versions with every available radio?
5. If we get Kyphur and the development team to embed a radio what's our next collective request?
6. Having everything done for me takes the fun out of having a Hermes - If I want to just wait for someone to solve my problem I might as well wait for Vodafone or HTC to release an update.
7. We already see loads of questions/complaints/comments about the few apps which are embedded in WMXL so the dev. team are now acting as tech support instead of developing more stuff for us to play with. If they get bored with this role they may stop - then who do we turn to for the next release of WMXL?
So, instead of including a radio I would prefer to see a WIKI which tells us how better to analyse the radio we have and maybe to compare the available radios for reception, data, country of use etc.
If Kyphur doesn't mind all the extra work and can release all the different versions then fine, but I'd rather let him work on a stable OS first.
Only my ideas, I'm sure others will disagree
Adding a Raido will add to the argument as to which is best? There are plenty of installs to do yourself. If you got the balls to do a ROM upgrade then download and install the Radio RUU of your choice before or after as you like.
I agree
Squuiid said:
Fair points!
How about just a RADIO recommendation from Kyphur then? You're right, lets not add extra workload, just make a suggestion as to which radio instead?
Users can then make their own minds up as you suggest.
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I agree, a list would be better, obviously if you are looking at GPS (here here)
you would need a different radio.
kudos to the gurus!
Because different Radio Roms work better in different regions of the world and even with different OS Roms.
That is a lesson learned the hard way from Wizard & AKU 3.x. Ironically T-Mobile NL 2.19 Radio never missed a call with AKU 3.x or WM6 but Cingular's 2.25 Radio was a dog in the Chicago area!
Personally, I would stay away from any of the Trinity GPS enabled Radio Roms (end in .x1) because they just add yet another element into the mix and the goal of this project is stable WM6 not GPS..
Kartboy said:
Why experiment when u got all this knowledge grouped in a forum,
not knowing if u might brick ur phone or not
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That will be BIG NO for me to include radio. As said in previous posts, there are various radios out there and depending on where you are will get different results. Recommending which radio worked well for you at your location with x version of ROM is the best thing in my mine.
I am currently using 1.27 and it seems to work well for me and I won't change until I see a reason to do so (e.g. feature, service, etc...). So I definitely would not want to be force into another radio (although I can just extract the OS and flash with TTY).
Kartboy said:
Why experiment when u got all this knowledge grouped in a forum,
not knowing if u might brick ur phone or not
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We will not post a Radio ROM that is untested; at least I hope no XDA member would. So unless you screw it up it wont brick your device.
a wiki page is a better idea
I think that a sub page of the wiki special for the radio rom is the best solution...
Everybody can add their experience with any version of the radio rom...
A fool proof installer sounds a very very good idea for me!!
Is it possible to return to your original radio rom (or dump it) Radio rom 1.13??
Why dont you have the option for 0.3 with and without the radio rom. Before I put 0.1 on my hermes, I had 1.34 for my radio rom. I am going to attempt to get gps working soon, so before I upgarded to 0.1, I flashed my radio.
I think a lot of people that are holding out for a later version of WXML may be in the same problem that I had, that is, not having the latest radio rom.
Radios? We don't need no stinking radios! Sorry I couldn't resist...
Seriously, pof and the rest are right. Radio selection is highly variable based on location and carrier. Let the end user decide. Having said that, knowing the radios and locations/carriers that the ROM was tested in could be useful information.
Ninja1
Hi all.
This will be my first post in this forum, but sadly I think this subject been up here before. I've been searching these forums and the wiki for some time now and it's ALOT of information here... GREAT WORK! by the way.
But I can't really find any guide that describes why I should do a ROM update. I have learned how to flash the ROM, and that ROM's differs in speed, stability and so on.
Questions I haven't find any clear answers to:
- Clear description on how to backup the original ROM with radio (without SD-card)
- Why tf3d config themes won't work on 1.93 ROMs
- Why does many ROMs uses Win CE 5.2 instead of 6.1?
- Howto backup manila (TF3D) incase of upgrade to manilaHD?
Best regards
Bunnny
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bunnny said:
Hi all.
This will be my first post in this forum, but sadly I think this subject been up here before. I've been searching these forums and the wiki for some time now and it's ALOT of information here... GREAT WORK! by the way.
But I can't really find any guide that describes why I should do a ROM update. I have learned how to flash the ROM, and that ROM's differs in speed, stability and so on.
Questions I haven't find any clear answers to:
- Clear description on how to backup the original ROM with radio (without SD-card)
- Why tf3d config themes won't work on 1.93 ROMs
- Why does many ROMs uses Win CE 5.2 instead of 6.1?
- Howto backup manila (TF3D) incase of upgrade to manilaHD?
Best regards
Bunnny
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i'll share what i know -
1 - as far as i know, there is no way of "backing up" the existing rom, there is a ROM roll up thread here and also a radio sticky - so you see what stock ROM & radio you have and download it and keep it with you (on your computer)
2 - no idea, don't use themes
3-
windows 6.1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile
windows CE 5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_CE_5.0
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WindowsCE
one is the OS other is the platform.
4 - same as (1) above
i change ROMs because of speed & stability... some do it because of APPS, others because of support... it's what makes you comfortable that counts
hope this helps
cloudedhopes said:
i'll share what i know -
1 - as far as i know, there is no way of "backing up" the existing rom, there is a ROM roll up thread here and also a radio sticky - so you see what stock ROM & radio you have and download it and keep it with you (on your computer)
2 - no idea, don't use themes
3-
windows 6.1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile
windows CE 5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_CE_5.0
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WindowsCE
one is the OS other is the platform.
4 - same as (1) above
i change ROMs because of speed & stability... some do it because of APPS, others because of support... it's what makes you comfortable that counts
hope this helps
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Ahh, I see (#3), thanks for your reply.
Sadly I havent found my original ROM here.
My OP is 3 sweden and this ROM (1.93.774.3) is not available in the wiki, maybe HTCs ROM (1.93.413.3 SWE) is no loss?
EDIT: Never mind found the rom on the forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2572811 (page 7)
Gentlemen!
Both of you are posting instead of searching. All of the above can be easily explained by ..... reading this forum.
So, plz, instead fo making traffic, reserve yourself a free evening with internet connection and mouse....
Regards....
mjaxa said:
Gentlemen!
Both of you are posting instead of searching. All of the above can be easily explained by ..... reading this forum.
So, plz, instead fo making traffic, reserve yourself a free evening with internet connection and mouse....
Regards....
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Well you are not helping, neither with my questions or the traffic.
As I wrote in my post I've been searching and still am.
Now it's just question 2 left. And Im glad to say that I have sucessfully flashed my ROM, but I couldn't use HardSPL OliNex138 instead I used Jockyw2001's 1.24
Hello,
because for a noob like me, it's very difficult to see the differences between ROM's, I want some hints and advice for this.
I noticed the ROM of Shady and the ROM of Emrulez. For me the difference is not clear.
Can someone compare those ROM's please?
Also the word kitchen isn't clear .... :$
There is no differences. You should say Kudos to Microsoft for these ROMs and their effort. The cookers here only add and delete programs using kitchen.
thats my question, whats the difference.
nobody?:s ...
Yes it is a good question.
I am trying to figure it out myself.
At the moment, only thing that I am certain about, is that build number is different
is there any difference about battery drain ?
well the build number is like an update of the windows, higher build >>more recent release.
and roms differs with stability, free ram, storage, bugs, addons
that's why every1 r keep trying till he got the rom he like.
and about the battery drain,, they r differs too, since some have a UI interface which drains battery and other background processes assuming they use the same radio version since the radio version is one of the important things with battery drains.
to build a rom u need to build a kitchen with by it u can do it... there some ppl who like to share their kitchens to make any1 can modify the rom with his needs.. but to do that u have to know a few things
hope this helped
maybe it's a good idea if someone (I? ) creates a new topic with a Rom-overview?
The first message will show all the ROMS with the following info:
Date of last update
Windows version, build number
Programs added
Programs deleted
Free Memory
Bugs
Link to the topic
...?
Based on that message, users can choose their favorite ROM. I do not want to make a competition of this, only make it user friendly to choose.
y_bother said:
to build a rom u need to build a kitchen with by it u can do it... there some ppl who like to share their kitchens to make any1 can modify the rom with his needs.. but to do that u have to know a few things
hope this helped
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Hello thanks for your information. So there is no general kitchen which i can use to modify the ROMs? has every ROM it own kitchen? And I wonder where the people always get the new OS versions since I never seen you can download them at Microsoft or so....
@ babbelut
well yes i think cud be so helpful too , but i think it's too hard specially when a lot of roms r being created !!
@ TalhaX
well ya there is no a general kitchen, each cooker has his own kitchens some share it as u can find.
u can build ur own kitchen or use one of these kitchens,,, couple of days ago a saw a kitchen called superjustkitchen i think this may help u.. i don't know about these stuff. and where from they came with these builds but u can search here,,, and if r planning to do this make sure of what u r doing
I've made a wikipage:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XDA_ROMS
Please feel free to contact me or add some ROMS !!
It's not so wise to make such a page. ROM i for specific device and will not work on other.
Here is a page for Artemis
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Artemis
and you should make your subpage there.
I use xdadevelopers many years and it's sad that everyone works alone on ROMs. There are only a few people owning each model and doing their own kitchen/ROMs. They should work together to make one, best kitchen, and set of quality ROMs.
Now we have for example SHADY's kitchen which is probably very good, but ROMs have many bugs. And there is nobody who can fix them, because Shady don't have time, and others fix their own ROMs. And now we have new build and new kitchen and new ROM and new bugs. Yes, they are the newest, have all bells & whistles, but are useless because of bugs
I'm looking to replace my Touch ROM, which were very good, but author has abandoned it.
it is a subpage of artemis, not?
I'm looking for a 2.2 Froyo rom, WITH HTC Sence UI.
pref, 720p recording, newest radio ect..
tried searching through the forum but can't seem to find one i like, most roms have been trimmed down..
couldn't understand the rom kitchen othervise i would compile my own..
any link for this kind of rom or if someone could compile it for me, would be highly aprishiated.
excuse my bad grammar.
Your kidding right?
I'd have a look again if I were you.
Please use search before posting! When you signed up to these forums you agreed to the forum rules, and the number 1 rule is:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Everything you need to know is here, but always search before asking.
Chef Central > Android http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=613
Learn Android ROM development. For serious students only. This forum is monitored and moderated by seasoned developers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
cyanogen said:
Here's my advice for those looking to make their own Android ROMs.. Stop. Write an app or two first, learn how the system works from a developer standpoint. Learn some Java. Read the developer documentation. Learn how to use Git. Then learn how to build AOSP from source. Read the porting guides, and learn how the build system works (the links below have almost everything you could possibly want to know). Now try to put your new found skills to work on enhancing the platform by writing code or making theme overlays. And share! And put that **** on your resume. There is a *ton* of information out there but any kind of "step-by-step rom cooking guide" is going to be a complete fail- it's too broad of a subject.
Android Developer Guides: http://d.android.com
Working with AOSP source: http://source.android.com
Platform Developer Guide: http://pdk.android.com
Android Gitweb: http://android.git.kernel.org
Git Ready (Git tips and tricks): http://www.gitready.com/
Building CyanogenMod: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Building_from_source
How Dexopt works and what are those odex files: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=pl...bcd225e47b2cc7abb2a366112d3aeb45936;hb=master
The PDK site is absolutely vital if you are going to work on custom ROMs. Read every single page. Twice. Some of the info isn't up to date, but you'll get a really good idea about what goes into actually configuring Android to work on a real device.
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Klutsh said:
Your kidding right?
I'd have a look again if I were you.
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It's quite hilarious now when I read it again. How %&ยค/"# some people can be