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Can anyone provide these answers before I ever risk installing this:
What are the origins of this "Official" ROM to make it be classed as an "Official" HTC ROM as there is nothing mentioned on HTC support website?
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1) Also, as a suggestion could the ROM list page (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...inity_Upgrades) be updated to reflect the flurry of recent releases of ROMs in the forum over the last few weeks inc. this one?
2) Which of these is the correct one to use on for upgrading from Orange SPV M700 Wm5 as after reading the threads I have: TRIN_WM6.rar, TRIN_WM6_FLASHER.rar, Official_WM6.rar.
3) If there are patches / upgrades required for this e.g. HTC_VideoCallPatch_vX.cab, Microsoft_Office_Mobile_6.1.cab could I suggest they be all be culminated on a special page for this ROM if this is to be the baseline ROM for future developments / tweaks as these files are scattered all over the forum at present.
4) Any chance an experienced flasher could create a "Step by Step Guide" from an Orange SPV M700 Wm5 locked to an WM6 Official install (inc. Orange Settings / Customisations etc.) unlocked that includes creating a ROM backup of your own phone prior to installing, so you can switch back? - I have read the posts / threads and have yet to find a definitive page on all this.
Just a thought..... as it would help novices and cut down posts to relevant questions and not the same old inquiries.
Cheers
Hawk
Yeah we noob need some steb by steb guide(for vista though)
it was stated in the first mention of this rom that the poster wouldn't be answering questions about it.. so there's not much people can tell you about where it came from, etc.
the cabs may or may not be accumulated because there's nothing to suggest that this ROM will be the basis of future developments. The build is older than current WM6 ROMs on this forum.. better read a bit more to get the big picture.
can't tell you which one is the right .rar file to flash, but you won't find a step by step guide. Essentially, go get hard-spl and run the RUU to install it on your phone. Then manually enter the bootloader and while connected via USB run the RUU for the ROM you want to flash.
I don't use vista, so can't say much about the connection problems but there are MANY MANY posts about it, so i suggest you get searching.
happy flashing
This FAQ will be updated as more common questions are found!
I hope this will help cut down the number of threads that just pop up with the same old questions! PM me or post if you have something that you think should be added.
Made sure you have the newest .net frameworks installed on your computer before you try to do anything!
You can get it here!
Custom RRU and other things will NOT run without this installed on the computer you are trying to flash from.
Basic Troubleshooting and how to ask questions
¤Do these first
Soft reset your device
Check there is no other programs conflicting
Check if there is a newer version of your program that fixes the bugs, same goes for roms.
¤How to ask questions
If all else fails and you need to ask a question, at least do it in a way that makes it easy for us to help you.
Tell us what rom you are running.
What radio you are running
The above two points is why most people have there device info in there sigs.
Dont just say "it doesn't work" tell us what happens, is there any errors?
What have you done to try to fix it? Have you googled and checked this FAQ first?
What device do you have? The Hermes comes under many different names, tell us
Anything else you think that might help, the more info we have the better!
Roms
¤I want a rom, where can I find the best roms?
See this sticky here or see the list below this FAQ that zocster will be starting and maintaining (Should be more upto date).
¤I want a fast rom! Give me SPEED!
You can see here for some info,
And here is my own benchmark thread
¤English isnt my native language, are there roms out there in other languages?
This is an english forum, but there are roms cooked for other languages, here is a Spanish rom and a polish rom, finaly, schaps's roms are available in English and French
Also, here is a thread for a Japanese rom
And now a Italian rom
And a beta of a Czech rom
A cab patch for Chinesein WM6
If you want to do it yourself, You can translate WM into your own language, here though this thread isnt much help for the average user.
¤Will this rom work on my AT&T 8525/ect?
The first thing you see under the devices HTC codename is the list of names its sold under, YES the 8525 is a Hermes!
¤What version of hardSLP do i need? Whats it do?
HardSPL helps prevent bricking your phone though bad blocks, and superCID’s your phone to allow you to flash a custom Rom. Get it here
¤Where do I find my carriers “shipped” rom? And what is it?
This is a rom that a carrier puts out rather than a cooked (custom) one, see here
¤Whats RBSC/RBSC/NBSC/NBCN mean?
RBSC - Real Big Storage Compressed
¤ More storage space than normal
¤ Extra storage space because of being compressed
¤ More snappy and responsive
¤ Less stable
¤ Requires the installation of an original carrier ROM before installation in order to avoid system freeze and spontaneous Hard Resets
¤ No extended ROM
RBSN - Real Big Storage Normal
¤ More storage space than normal
¤ No Extra storage space because of being compressed
¤ More snappy and responsive
¤ Less stable
¤ Requires the installation of an original carrier ROM before installation in order to avoid system freeze and spontaneous Hard Resets
¤ No extended ROM
NonRBSC - Non Real Big Storage Compressed
¤ Doesn't have more storage space than normal
¤ Extra storage space because of being compressed
¤ Not so snappy and responsive
¤ More stable
¤ Doesn't require the installation of an original carrier ROM before installation in order to avoid system freeze and spontaneous Hard Resets
¤ Extended ROM
NonRBSN - Non Real Big Storage Normal
¤ Doesn't have more storage space than normal
¤ No extra storage space because of being compressed
¤ Not so snappy and responsive
¤ More stable
¤ Doesn't require the installation of an original carrier ROM before installation in order to avoid system freeze and spontaneous Hard Resets
¤ Extended ROM
To check if your rom is BS look in settings/system/memory ... if it is big storage it will have over 70 mb Free program memory.
When you are flashing your shipped rom, use dutty's good NHB tool to extract the carriers NBH, then put it back together without the radio, due to the dangers of flashing your radio over and over again. "nbhtool.exe" which is the tool, is attached zipped to the last post.
or here is the rom with the radio striped out (by me).
I myself use this, and im not on AT&T.. it was just the first stock rom I downloaded and stripped, it really doesnt matter where you live. The reason for doing this, is its quicker, you dont need to reflash the radio( Just the OS and extended rom), and radio flashing can also lead to bricks if you get an error midflash!
See here for more info
You should do this everytime you move from a bigstorage rom to another bigstorage, you will be fine going stock --> bigstorage, and you should be fine going bigstorage --> normal cooked, but sometimes its better safe than sorry! (I flash shipped when im planning on keeping a rom for some time, even if im going to a non BS cooked)
¤What is a "naked"/"lite" rom?
This means that the rom is as "lite" as possible, that it doesn't contain any/much extra software, normally designed to give you as much program and storage memory, to allow you to load the apps you want to use rather than using what the chef thinks are the best.
Radios
¤Will flashing a new radio solve my problems with Wifi/slow SMS/poor signel/Slow 3G?
Your radio rom only affects GSM/UTMS signal quality and speed, as well as call drop-outs can be palatially due to having a old radio. So, if your having slow 3G, poor signal, or lots of drop-outs, look into flashing a new radio.
¤Whats the best radio rom for me?
This depends, on where you live and what carrior, lots of people like the newest radio here and there is a thread about the radios that use the least power here.
¤Where do I find a radio rom?
All radios are here
¤Is flashing a Radio rom more dangerous than flashing a rom? If so, why and what can i do to protect myself as much as i can?
Yes, a lot more, if the flash gets interupted you could brick your radio. The best way to flash a radio is via the SD card method (see flashing section of this FAQ).
¤Noo! Im to late, my radios bricked, what do i do?
Well, see this thread here for help unbricking.
¤Best radio for XXXX countery
Best radio for South Africa
Best radio for Belgium
Flashing
¤How do I Flash a rom?
You need to flash HardSPL first, then download a custom rom of your choice, and flash via the Custom RRU or the SD card method.
¤What is the SD card method?
This is flashing your rom from your SD card, this is safer than using a USB cable, as there is less chance of disconnection ect. See here here
¤DAM! My phones broken, but I need to send it back to my carrior/ect for warranty, Dam how do i restore my phones SPL ect?
See mrvanx's guide on this here
¤My phones a brick! something went wrong, help!
This is a list of all the brick types that are known and how to fix them
¤Im geting random hard resets and other bugs, and im using a BS rom, whats wrong?
You didnt read the advice in post #1, flash a stock rom, for example this stripped one.
¤Why does this happen?
The idea floating around, and as explained by mrvanx is that as we are abusing the area of memory that is normally the extended rom, the memory setup gets a bit messy, so flashing a stock rom with extended rom overwrites everything back to how it was supposed to be, helping to improve stability. A stock rom is like a spring clean for the phone.
Bugs, Fixes, and Tweaks
¤Help, my 8525’s keyboard is wrong, what do i do? / How do I change advanced settings? / I want my keyboard to be in the German style.
Get Schap’s Advanced configuration Tool from here and here is a post with a cab for German keyboard layout.
¤What's the page pool? What does it do? How do I change it?
The page pool is Ram that windows uses as a cache, the more you have the faster windows should be running apps, but the less memory you will have for programs. Most roms come with a 6meg pool. To change the page poll BEFORE you flash the rom, use this tool, you cant change the page pool post flash.
Also see this thread for a good discussion on the topic
¤My cameras broken, what do i do?
See here
¤My BT stereo sucks, how do i fix this?
Installed Advanced config and increase the bitpool. And try the cab in this post.
¤Help! My screens gone white, what do i do?
See here
And here
¤Why doesn’t my hardware keyboard work in landscape mode with opera moble?
This version of Opera is so far the only one I have found that works with the keyboard, Thanks Josh!
Or you can use this newer version which has full keyboard support.
I use Build 1957 myself, as i find the newer 2000+ builds do not support the landscape keyboard again (I have tried both of the builds at there at time of writing this).
¤But thats an old version of Opera mobile! I want a newer one!
Download this for build 1930 or this for build 1780, extract the 3 EXE's and replace the once in /windows with them (After you install the cab of cause)
Or you can use this cab to update to build 1938!
¤Im having network issues! Help!
Try running the HTC network wizard, that you can get from here if it isnt in your rom.
¤I want to make a theme for WM! How do i do this?
Use this fantastic program ThemeGenCE
How to make WM5 Themes
And how to make your bar's 3D or not.
¤Help! My wifis messed up, on any cooked WM6 or WM6.1 after install, i turn on wifi, and it gets garbled settings from the router, acquires bogus IP, then disconnects right after, what do i do?
This seems is to-do with a driver issue, see this thread for more info and it seems the cab "HTC_Hermes_WiFi_drivers.cab" fixes this as seen in this post of the thread the cab is also attached to post #4 of this thread.
¤My Hermes wont change from this random USB cable? Why?
This is because HTC uses custom wiring in cables that come with the phone, it seems to work if you plug it in and then soft reset with the cable still in.
¤Im having problems with syncing with acticesync via bluetooth, what do i do?
This seems to have been resolved in this post here.
¤My WMP is acting odd, and using up loads of ram, then being closed due to not enough ram, whats going on?
Read this report
¤I am getting random crashes and hard resets, I have flashed a big storage rom! whats wrong?
You more than likerly didn't follow the doctors orders, see here for more info.
¤Im having Problems getting Activesync to connect to my phone, what do I do?
Go to Start > settings > connections > USB to PC and untick "Enable advanced network functionality" If this fails remove all partnerships, reset device and computer, and try again.
And if you have Windows vista, Try downloading the newest WMDC 6.1, making sure to uninstall the old one before you install.
¤Im having problems with the custom RUU, its flashing up errors/not running.
You need to install the latest .net framework, run windows update to get it.
¤I cant get YahooGo! To run, it just crashes, what should I do?
It seems YahooGo doesn't like CF3.5, see this thread here for a fix
¤My phone says I have unread SMS even when I dont! What do I do?
This post here should help fix it.
¤Does the Hermes support SDHC cards (4gig and up micro SD)?
Yes, in some WM6 and 6.1 roms that add the drivers to support it, but this is only in software, the bootloader doesn't support them, so you cant flash from a SDHC card.
¤How can i toggle Silent mode on and off with the com manager button?
Cab in this thread.
¤Im having problems with my sound quality, its rubish on speeker and the earpice, what can I do?
Uninstall SRS WOW and if that doesnt help, see this thread
¤Im haveing problems with screen alligment! Help!
See this post for a utility to skip it.
Popular software
¤Where do i get HTC home?
here
¤How do I customise my HTC home?
HTC Home Customiser allows you to fully customise your HTC home, from changing the clock skin to backing up your settings between flashes, get it here(direct download link)
¤Why isn’t my HTC home weather working?
See here
¤Where do I find diamond apps?
Have a look here
¤I want a home plugin, a clock, that doesn’t take up the whole page like HTC home, where do i find one?
Look here
¤I want to do finger scrolling, and cool stuff!
You need touch flow, see this thread here
¤I want to configure Touch flow, its not quite right for my needs!
Phew, we have everything covered here!
¤There's this Cube people have been talking about, sounds cool, where do I get it?
Just click right here
¤I want touch friendly software! And I want it NOW!
Okey! Okey! Calm down and look on this website for loads
¤I have heard about A_C's Slide to software, where do i find it?
Here is Slide to lock and then there is slide to view and Finaly slide to play
¤Pocket IE just sucks, what else is there out there?
Well, there is Opera Mobile (see bugs section for info about keyboard problems) or Opera Mini. Skyfire looks good, but its a closed beta atm, and I cant seem to find a version of netfront anywhere.
¤I want to play flash files and see web pages with flash in them, what do i do?
You will need flash lite, and a better browsers than pocket IE, see the section on better browsers, You can get flash here. Flash lite is only flash V7, and some files still don't play anyway.
Flash Lite V3.1 is now out, kinda, you can get it here. Read the first post about notes of what it works on.
¤I want to alt + tab and alt +f4 like on my windows PC! is there any programs that can do this?
This topic has a cab for both and there is SPB Alt tab on the 4th post. (This cab doesn't make short cuts, and i cant find one that does, you will need to make them yourself, it install in /programs/alttab)
¤Im looking for more software, where do i find it?
Here is a good cabs collection, some of the links are broken, but see post #139 for alt links.
And here is S64's massive cab collection!
¤Im looking for a threaded SMS app, but I dont know where to look, help?
Here is the palm one.
¤I want to use my phone as a virtual keyboard and mouse for my computer, what software is there out there?
This post here gives 7 options!
¤Im looking for a copy of "schaps advanced config" where do I find it?
See this post for a copy or for his website
¤I want this snazzy new Touchflow2D interface on my phone, where do i get it?
Look right here!
¤I want to change the skin/clock ect! Where do I look?
Heres a massive thread with LOADS of themes/skins/clocks!
Other
¤How do I sim unlock my device? And CID unlock, what does CID unlock mean as well?
CID means carrier ID, and it locks your device to only your carriors roms, hardSPL superCID’s your phone, so you shouldn’t need to run the CID part of the unlocker, as perminatly superCIDing your phone will void your warranty.
Get the unlocker here
You DONT need to superCID if you have flashed HardSPL
¤How do I change my boot splash screens?
See the readme in the attacked Custom splashscreens zip
¤Whats this "UC" people keep talking about, and how do i use it?
UC is user customisation, a way to automatically install cabs during the customisation stage of a rom's first start, This post here has info on how to use it.
¤Im looking for a WM6.1 kitchen and more help cooking, where should I look?
This post here has a nice round up of all the current kitchens
¤I dont like HTC Network wizzad, I want a cab of the operators settings, where do i find one?
This thread contains a lot of network settings made into cabs.
¤This doesn’t answer my question, how do i do XXXXX? And how do i fine this piece of software?
See this sticky for more guides.
Here is another good thread with links.
And this site for mrvanx's guides.
Finaly my 4shared here has stuff in it as well
¤Im confused by the terms used here! Help!
A few very common terms:
Flashing: To flash a new rom/radio means to basicly install a new OS
HardSPL: HardSPL is a a patched and hacked bootloader which alows us to run unsighed code (custom roms), and superCID our devices
Custom rom: A rom made my a chef rather than put out by HTC or another OEM
OEM/shipped rom: a stock rom that came from a carrior or HTC
Radio rom: This rom controlls the GSM part of your phone, and ONLY the GSM radio, flashing this WONT help with wifi/bluetooth problems, they are driver based (aka the rom you have on your phone)
A brick: A phone that has had a problem during flashing, and is only usefull as a brick, aka its non fuctional
A list of basic Acronyms
And here is a very comprehensive Glossary
Search XDA with Google If you cant find the info you need here, BEFORE posting a new topic
This thread is also for any cab's/programs ect I cant find links to.
Credits to
mrvanx for his guide
Kevlar-Source
zocster
joshkoss
farres
Everyone whos work I have linked to
All the fantastic Chefs that make XDA great
And YOU for reading this rather than posting ANOTHER new topic
My to-do list:
Measure Idle and full speed file download power consumption on a few radios (new Thread)(This isnt going to get done I dont think.. to much risk flashing all the radios myself.. and it varies so much across the world..)
Radio Example:
Radio: 1.47.30.10
Location: England, East Anglia
Carrier: T - Mobile
Signal when testing: 4bars HSDPA
Rom: CRC V12.9BS Naked
Idle consumption: 40mA (leave the phone in the same place for 5min ish and take the average)
Radio on idle consumption: dial upto 3g then leave the phone in the same place and take the average.
Load consumption:415mA (use the dsl report mobile speed test, 1 meg file, and watch the meter, take the highest it goes)
Any notes: Kept poping between 3G and HSDPA.
I hope Im not going to upset/offend anyone with this, im just looking to make a roundup of all the info out there, and put down answers to all the questions I had when I first for my device, I know the radio testing has been done before, but it seems mrvanx has left us, or is leaving us for the Touchpro.
If this has helped you, or you like what I do, pleases consider sending me a small donation, any amount is very gratefully received.
Awesome effort
Hope one of the mods will make this a sticky, as most punters don't like reading, and don't go to wiki. Also translators would be helpful. I speak English and Indonesian/ broken Malay. Anyway as we are trying to keep this thread as UP TO DATE as possible, I am going to post the most recent and active chefs on the hermes forum.
RIP Marahox - he has left us for the raphael (traitor! ) anyway hope you enjoy your new toy buddy.
The latest 20753 by DVH - as this is the most recent build that the chefs here have managed to port, this is a super storage ROM, and possibly compressed, so if you are not adventurous, don't go this way.
PDA Corner 20748 - latest build, with a variety of flavours, for the adventurous and the conservative (being super storage, compressed, and normal) if you like older builds you can go to his old thread.
Starbase64 thanks for the great ROM and excellent cabs collection! And starbase's new release here!
CRCinAU 20270 Development ROM and CRCinAU 20270 gone stable ROM - this guy never cease to amaze me. Stable and fast ROM, with intuitive device update wizard.
I wish to extend my warmest welcome to two new chefs!
Anryl and JoshKoss new talents that the hermes world are happy to have!
Geez don't these two newbies ever sleep? Anryl just came up with a new 20748 build already, and so has joshkoss, ... their wives need to strap them to a chair?
Anryl has a CZ project going, visit here, for those come from CZ!
And how can I forget our order what you want chef, kareem9nba that is when he gets his laptop back, hopefully later this week!
And for those wanting some international flavour
Here is a Polish and a Spanish ROM (which I believe he is no longer cooking for the hermes either), and before you know it a new chef comes out with ITALIAN Rom
I am looking forward to some old chef that are returning, I can't mention names. If you are looking for an older ROM, don't forget to visit the first sticky!
so you've made it... thanks! I hope this will put an end to the endless tiny questions... if any need for translations is required, I might help with German and Arabic. thanks again
zocster said:
Hope one of the mods will make this a sticky, as most punters don't like reading, and don't go to wiki. Also translators would be helpful. I speak English and Indonesian/ broken Malay.
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You can find below the list of the languages I speak:
- Aikaná
- Andoque
- Betoi
- Camsá
- Canichana
- Cayubaba
- Cofán
- Culle
- Gamela
- Huamoé
- Irantxe
- Itonama
- Jotí
- Karirí
- Kawésqar
- Kukurá
- Mapudungun
- Movima
- Munichi
- Nambiquaran
- Natú
- Omurano
- Otí
- Pankararú
- Pirahã
- Puquina
- Sabela
- Taushiro
- Tequiraca
- Ticuna
- Tuxá
- Warao
- Xokó
- Xukurú
- Yámana
- Yuracaré
- Yuri
- Yurumanguí
- Adai
- Atakapa
- Beothuk
- Chimariko
- Chitimacha
- Coahuilteco
- Cotoname
- Cuitlatec
- Esselen
- Haida
- Huave
- Jicaque (also known as Tol)
- Karankawa
- Karok
- Kootenai
- Natchez
- P'urhépecha language (Tarascan)
- Quileute
- Quinigua
- Salinan
- Seri
- Siuslaw
- Takelma
- Timucua
- Tonkawa
- Tunica
- Washo
- Xinca
- Yana
- Yuchi
- Zuni
- Basque
- Etruscan
- Abinomn
- Anem
- Busa
- Enindhilyagwa
- Isirawa
- Kakadju
- Kol
- Kuot
- Laragiya
- Minkin
- Ngurmbur
- Pele-Ata
- Pyu (New Guinean)
- Sulka
- Taiap
- Tiwi
- Umbugarla
- Yalë
- Yawa
- Yélî Dnye
- Yuri
- Ainu
- Burushaski
- Elamite
- Hattic
- Korean
- Kusunda
- Nihali
- Nivkh
- Pucikwar
- Shompen
- Sumerian
- Hadza
- Sandawe
I hope i can translate the post into some of these above metioned languages
Cheers.
Kevlar-Source said:
I hope i can translate the post into some of these above metioned languages
Cheers.
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All that and no Portuguese? had a PM from one lol.
Kevlar-Source said:
You can find below the list of the languages I speak:
- Aikaná
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- Korean
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- Sandawe
I hope i can translate the post into some of these above metioned languages
Cheers.
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ok, of course you can... just translate it into Korean and we will be thankful to you.
Well Done!! Hopefully this will eliminate tons of duplicate threads and questions...
Oh, WWE is the forum language!
Im working my ass off Its almost done! (for the time being)
Anyone feel like starting off doing benchmarks for each rom? I might do, unless someone else feels like going into a flashing frenzy, with sktools lite, fresh flash, unpluged, and no activesync running!
veyka said:
Im working my ass off Its almost done! (for the time being)
Anyone feel like starting off doing benchmarks for each rom? I might do, unless someone else feels like going into a flashing frenzy, with sktools lite, fresh flash, unpluged, and no activesync running!
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May be next month! As per my sig, I have rested my flashing .. have a few real urgent family things to sort out and need a reliable phone/pda.
zocster said:
May be next month! As per my sig, I have rested my flashing .. have a few real urgent family things to sort out and need a reliable phone/pda.
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I shall maybe start it soon, not sure if I have the time or energy for it.
Glad to see your rom list
I fixed the first page.. managed to wipe most of it , thank god for old tabs
Keep the suggestions rolling people, Ill update more later today when I wake up
veyka said:
Keep the suggestions rolling people, Ill update more later today when I wake up
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What?? You're not allowed to sleep in this world as it is called the hermes world.
zocster said:
What?? You're not allowed to sleep in this world as it is called the hermes world.
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The human body is weak anyway, tonight I shall benchmark all the roms in your list and the sticky, and make a new thread, and write a biology paper, and start on the radios
Wow! This is a lot of roms, 14 to flash and benchmark!
Hate to kinda bumb my own thread, but here you go, AND, I did the benchmarks!
See here!
veyka said:
Hate to kinda bumb my own thread, but here you go, AND, I did the benchmarks!
See here!
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Nothing wrong with bumping your own thread, here we go .... I am shameless today
zocster said:
May be next month! As per my sig, I have rested my flashing .. have a few real urgent family things to sort out and need a reliable phone/pda.
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Wow dude, Wish you the best on the family home front!
Thanks for all the work you're doing in the Hermes forum.
Shameless bump
it is Sunday and we should also make this a sticky.
Sorry to bother you, I'm sure this info is somewhere (or if I understood it a bit better), but if someone could clear a few things up:
1) Have downloaded Hard-SPL 1.23, 1.34 and the latest version - is the newer better/more stable? Or I do have to use the one that matches the ROM I am flashing to?
2) If I want to do a cooked a ROM, will any of the versions of Hard-SPL listed above work for that too?
3) Is there an easy way to back up operator settings (internet, voice mail number etc?) Just got it so there's nothing else on it that needs backing up.
4) Offical ROMs are in .exe format, can I just install them on to my XDA?
Edit: Found the official ROMs, just required looking through several pages (sorry). Can anyone answer the other questions, especially how to back-up network settings.
For the mo I just want to get rid of the O2 branding.
Thanks for your time - have been a mod on several forums and I know you end up having to answer questions 20 times over.
Cheers,
Joe
Regarding Hard SPL, read here fully and carefully. It will tell you all you need to know.
With regards to ROMs, you could use the official ones but you will find AZTOR ROMs far superior. (AZTOR = Alpha Zero Tweaked Official ROM) or alternatively Shaks.P ROM in my signature which is set up for the UK. Both will automatically detect your network and use the correct settings and both are as stable as the original ROMs but with improved performance
I have a UK o2 xda ignito, and the only hard spl I have used is 1.93 from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=101134&d=1216793074
Most of the modded roms can be flashed with the included utilities. But most of the official 2.03 roms can only be flashed from internal storage.
Any info you need can be found with the search function, with a little time.
All the best.
joeearl13 said:
Sorry to bother you, I'm sure this info is somewhere (or if I understood it a bit better), but if someone could clear a few things up:
1) Have downloaded Hard-SPL 1.23, 1.34 and the latest version - is the newer better/more stable? Or I do have to use the one that matches the ROM I am flashing to?
2) If I want to do a cooked a ROM, will any of the versions of Hard-SPL listed above work for that too?
3) Is there an easy way to back up operator settings (internet, voice mail number etc?) Just got it so there's nothing else on it that needs backing up.
4) Offical ROMs are in .exe format, can I just install them on to my XDA?
Edit: Found the official ROMs, just required looking through several pages (sorry). Can anyone answer the other questions, especially how to back-up network settings.
Cheers,
Joe
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Responding To Questions:
1) It doesn't have to match your original SPL...if the one you have downloaded works then use it. Very few chefs recommend a specific Hard SPL with there ROM. But this is so rare.
2) if you want to flash a unsigned ROM then you need a developers edition Hards SPL.....or jocky's works as well....I personally use 1.93 so I recommend that one.
3) don't worry about backing up operators settings.....most of these roms come with a "Connection Setup" which allows you to select from a list of operators and it does everything for you. I also have a little app for this if your rom doesn't have this.
@Everyone: thanks for your help.
Will install the 1.93 Developers HSPL and see how that goes.
Can anyone recommend a ROM (don't want any visual tweaks)?
Thanks again
Asking such a question can close this thread .........
This is out of the respect of the chefs who work hard. Please refrain from this topic regarding best roms, etc.
Just try them out and read the threads.
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Asking such a question can close this thread .........
This is out of the respect of the chefs who work hard. Please refrain from this topic regarding best roms, etc.
Just try them out and read the threads.
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I understand people have put a lot of hard work in and have taken a look at a few cooked ROMs, and fully intend to start cooking my own when (if) I have learned the skills.
However just got it and it has O2 branding, so i'd like to play with the original interface for a day or two before I start seeing what can really be done with the interface
Yeah, good idea, this will allow you to compare the true difference between a original and a cooked Rom. That is where one can begin to truly see how much better a cooked Rom is.
AZTOR version for UK?
Gonna try the AZTOR, looks like its got some solid improvements without affecting the UI, which version (WWE/GER) are using for the UK Mike?
Thanks again everyone, you've been a great help.
A mod can close this thread if you want now, got my problems sorted.
Thanks all.
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Gonna try the AZTOR, looks like its got some solid improvements without affecting the UI, which version (WWE/GER) are using for the UK Mike?
Thanks again everyone, you've been a great help.
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I always use WWE, have tried lots of roms, but my fall back roms are usually shaks or udk.
currently trying the 6.5 roms. Cloudyfa's beta2 has a very fast manilla.
You won't have much spare time now you have started flasshing
Hi eveyrone.
Background: I have been playing with the new Manilla from XBMod, but in doing so I have had to change my ROM. Previously was on a DUtty v4 ROM which I loved as it was a simple clean and fast ROM.
Now compared to Dutty's all other so far are Bloated and/or slugish (even before I put the manilla2 on).
Anyway I decided to see what it takes to make my own. I looked into it and found a nice simple basic tutorial with video here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
Now this is really basic. I do need to learn a bit but I need some help in finding some information. Little things like how to edit the registry or how to change the boot image. Also need to find all the updated HTC apps, and a list of what HTC apps are available and/or ported.
Before someone tells me to use search or "google is your friend" I know that.
I can find out what each package does before I remove them and such. I can also find out how to do allot of these things too, but if you actually use the search also then you will find nearly everything is based on modifying an already installed ROM and not doing it in the Kitchen.
On top of all this I doubt I am the only person looking for a clean fast ROM so I will be releasing this to everyone. I would appreciate any suggestions for what to include and what registry edits to do. And would really appreciate a master chef coming by and helping a new apprentice chef.
Much appreciated for anyones help. (Remember I havn't asked for others to do it, I am asking for some help to learn it.) Lets just hope I don't burn anything...... .
Nothing?
No one wants a Simple Light Upto date ROM??
Kinda funny isn't it.
If I just waited around and asked who had what and all that, I would be flamed to a crisp and get told to read and use search. Just so you know I just used search for "OEM HTC" and got NOTHING.
I have been using the forums for about 6 months now and now I have decided to put my little bit of effort in, no one is interested in helping...
I always say that I only help those whom help themselves. I have and am currently helping myself, but I do need a little hand mainly to point me in the right direction.
Anyone?
Doesn't anyone want a simple ROM that is mearly a set of performance tweaks and updated OS and Updated Default HTC Apps?
Here's you answer - download one of teh full kitchens available (like Sulliers or Mondilv) and make it yourself.
Other way - download latest OEM rom (there's thread for that), ervius kitchen, and cut away to your liking - you will have your "latest light rom".
This is exactly what it is about. Either be ready and donate to the chefs who do such things (cook for demand for payment) or get behind the keyboard and start cooking. it's not that difficult...
This is how I started - got the kitchen, and step by step I go forward. I can't call myself a cook - I only know how to tweak a bit little things, but I'm learning. I suggest you start too
If you are searching for "clean, fast ROM" look no further than Mondilv's kitchen - probably the fastest Rom available now (if we are to trust Pietrucci's benchmarks, and I see no reason why not). Since it;s a kitchen you can do whatever you want to it. And if you are asking "how to edit registry" then maybe your searching skills aren't that good... This like the most basic thing....
Happy cooking!
Good to see people actually read.
At no point did I ask for a ROM. I do recall mentioning that I have downloaded a kitchen and am playing with it.
I did mention that I have searched and my skills in searching are perfectly fine. Considering that fact that I have found the registry information but NOT in XDA.
THe problem with XDA is that if you are to be succesfull in a search you must already know what you want to find (and therefore know the terminology to search for) which then means why search at all seeing you already know. And if you happen to find something you have to read the thread for a week to find the only single post within it that actually gives you an answer.
If you had read my first post properlly and understood it, you would realise I am after information TOO LEARN IT...... but maybe I'll take your suggestion and LEARN it instead.
It really pisses me off when people reply withou fully reading the post, and then tells me exactly what I said I am doing.
For all you know I could be a potential contributer to these threads and you have just destroyed my respect for the people on these threads. Thankyou for your lack of any real help.
Oh and one last thing, I was wrong with the last bit of my first post.
If I ask for the ROM I get flamed, If I ask for help to learn to build a ROM I get told to make a ROM or download one.
Catch 22 around here. Can't ask for help and can't get help. I wanted to build one but if this is the **** I am going to cop just cause I want to learn something and contribute, then its not worth jack ****.
And who are you to say if I have or havn't donated to other ROM Builders.
I would love to try your basic clean ROM, without all the pre installed applications. I have been looking for an up to date naked ROM, but haven't been able to find one.
Good Luck!!!
Well my intention is not a "Naked ROM" but a bare essentials one.
Just updated versions of all the apps that come with a HTC ROM and update OS Core, .NET etc.
Bare Minimum Apps.
good luck man. hope its super fast too.. and stable.
Can someone please point me to an UPDATED list of HTC OEM App Version and hopefully downloads.
I don't mind Ripped stuff, like from TouchFlo2 etc, but I want to leave out beta buggy stuff untill they are are fixed. For example I would want HTC Notifications as it seems to work well (unless I am just lucky) but I won't put in the TouchFlo3D 2 as it is still buggy and unstable.
Oh and VGA versions if possible for my Touch Diamond
Oh and were can I find a 21xxx+ version ROM that I can use?
Hmm, so I want to help, and the best you can do is smirk at my recommendations, and you just carry on:
can you point me here, can I have that or this, and oh, can it be VGA, and possibly with chocolate?
Man, I'm sorry, but there is something wrong. All the info you are looking for IS on this forum. I can't believe that you searched and didn't found. You either search the diamond forum, or use general forum search (which is google) and you just follow the links.
I don't want to belittle you nor argue with you. But just take a second and look at the way how ALL internet forums work. The first thing you do to gain credibility on any forum is to search, learn, then try to help. The last thing you do is to show up, and ask for links "on a platter" in rather demanding manner, and then criticize the answer. I just had a look on your posts and it seems that this is what you do. You repeatedly ask for ready solutions, and when people tell you to search, you are annoyed, or ask "does anybody read posts on this forum?"
I will say just this - google "netiquette" or "how to behave on internet forums".
Good luck in your search for perfect ROM for you.
And here you go not providing any form of help at all.
You say If I did search I searched the Diamond threads or used the Google search..
I have used the google one yes. And I have used the built in search searching for DIamond threads yes.
Now you imply that searching the Diamond is wrong??? I am own a Diamond so why not search the diamond threads.
This is exactly what I am talking about regarding the useless comments of "search the forums" crap I keep reading against any noob.
Instead of pointing people in the right direction you guys just simple say search.
There also seems a limit of more than 3 letter word length to search in the forum search. Cause each time I search OEM or HTC or HTC OEM then it returns No results.
Ontop of all that if and only IF I do actually find something then I have to spend hopurs upon hours readying all the Good job, well done comments before I find the one tiny little comment that actually has the answer. At that rate, for a noob trying his hand at cooking it would take 6 Months to actually find all the answers.
And now you come back and tell me to search, and worst still you tell me that searching for Diamond Rom Development info in the Diamond forums is wrong also. Were was the part that told me were to search?
it seems quite some posts are missing here... xda-developers did a restore from a backup or something after the mess last night? .
Anyway, eangulus. This is what I have so far:
- Started with a stock 2.03 WWE ROM.
- Put in a 21042 SYS + XIP (so it's now 21042 build)
- After that ripped out some stuff:
- NetCF (because it's 2.0 now I installed 3.5 from CAB, we need the OEM for it)
- Manilla
- Opera (I guess we want a newer build)
I also needed to remove it from the 'auto setup' list
- Windows Live
- MP3 Trimmer
- RSS Hub
- AdobePDF
- Cyberon VoiceSpeed dial
- Google Maps (Because we want a newer build or nothing at all)
Also needed to remove it from the 'auto setup list'
- JBedJava
- ZIP
- Office OneNote
- SampleMusic
- SQLCeMobile (Leave the SQLCE engine in)
- Transcriber
The whole thing build nicely, the final .nbh is 86.5mb.
There are a lot of things that can be stripped more ofcourse, and it doesn't have
any 'tweaks' included yet. Stuff I still gotta learn / try out.
Also converting cabs to oem/packages is on the agenda , and see what is easy from
the rhodium / topaz oems to include.
After the flashing and first boot I installed the older STock keyboard (bigger T9) because I still prefer it, installed newer google maps and installed the latest Rhodium Manilla from xboxmod. Runs fine and speedy (still can be faster by cooking it in though).
The notification enhancement works by installed a certain cab afterwards (not the one included in Rhodium Manilla), but Menu Enhancement and the 'manilla start menu' won't work.
My 21038 build that I was working with in the beginning seems just broken or something, because the 21042 XIP/SYS I used worked flawlessy. So I was doing it ok all along, just had broken files .
So, what now from here?
To get you a bit started:
In the end I used bebe's kitchen (http://www.darkforcesteam.com/showthread.php?p=3560). You need to create a user on that forum and wait till they 'approve' you to access the thread though.
In the thread there are a couple of video's posted how to get you started. I watched them, understood them and then started cooking and it worked . I don't know if bepe wants his files freely posted everywhere so I'll let you to get them yourself.
The ROM I used I actually downloaded from the HTC site (http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=2&dl_id=483). Entered my serial number and got the .exe with the ROM (the ruu_signed.nbh can be extracted by using WinRAR from the .exe).
The XIP/SYS I used are from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497586
Bepe's kitchen works with a OS.nb files (not .nbh files) so I used NBHUtil to extract it from the .NBH. NBHUtil was included in another kitchen, I got it from there. The kitchen it was included is actually an 'extended' bepe-kitchen, so you might want to play around with that one too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420.
But in the end, I only used NBHUtil.exe from it .
In his video on how to port a newer build to your kitchen, he uses a complete newer ROM as a starting point. He extracts the XIP/SYS from that. If you do it like me, you don't have a complete newer ROM but only a XIP/SYS downloaded from this forum. They give you a os.nb.payload and a SYS folder. So you skip the part that extract those from a ROM and just instead use the files downloaded.
And that's pretty much it. With those files and the (short!) video tutorial's on Bepe's thread in darkforcesteam.com I managed it make something. (video on starting a kitchen from a ROM, and a video on how to port the XIP/SYS from another ROM to your kitchen). Try it, if you get stuck I'll help you. It isn't hard at all!
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sorry
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razkal1 said:
here is .net 3.5
delete your ntcf forlder in sys and replace with this one
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I actually have it already but thanks for helping out!
Trying out bebe's kitchen and trying an Upgraded OS build as we speak. Not as friendly as some of the other kitchens but with the vid's it is pretty straight forward thou.
Any luck in finding an updated list of HTC OEM Version Numbers and exactly what HTC OEM apps are available for us to package into it?
Im not going to do the manilla yet as I think its still a fraction too buggy. THe main one being atm is being out by 1 hour.
Once its much more stable and bug free then I'll package it. I do want the new notifications and menus thou. they seem to be workig OK.
ALso not sure if this is a HTC app or not but I have seen a new Wifi connection tool. It gives you a list of Wifi available in a Manilla Look, you then just click on one to connect. Do you know what that is called and who does that?
Also do I have to convert the .nb file to a .nbh again?
All,
Due to good success in the Blue Angel section, I have decided to open a Questions and Answers thread on this section of the forum as well. This will be good to keep the number of new threads with questions down to a minimum, which will make new threads essentially for people that are contributing to the Vogue in any way. This includes but is not limited to people that are providing
*New Roms and Kitchens
*Programs and Apps
*Fixes
*Skins
*Tips and Tricks
However, I have a life (and so do most of you), which is why I would like to request the help from other Seniors (or anyone who knows the answer really ) to monitor the thread as well. This will have the added side effect of creating an ever self updating knowledge base that will far extend the content of the Wiki. This will in turn save us from having to answer the same question 37000 times...
Without further ado, lets go for it!
egzthunder1 said:
All,
Due to good success in the Blue Angel section, I have decided to open a Questions and Answers thread on this section of the forum as well. This will be good to keep the number of new threads with questions down to a minimum, which will make new threads essentially for people that are contributing to the Vogue in any way. This includes but is not limited to people that are providing
*New Roms and Kitchens
*Programs and Apps
*Fixes
*Skins
*Tips and Tricks
However, I have a life (and so do most of you), which is why I would like to request the help from other Seniors (or anyone who knows the answer really ) to monitor the thread as well. This will have the added side effect of creating an ever self updating knowledge base that will far extend the content of the Wiki. This will in turn save us from having to answer the same question 37000 times...
Without further ado, lets go for it!
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GOOD IDEA!
Hi there Gents any input
Barogi awesome so far for v2; media player not staying in full screen mode though, and manila home weather under clock wont update when you push update now also getting error message for manila home on reboot
Great idea for a faq page!
I have been using a NFSfan rom on my bell vogue for a while, and it crapped out today for some reason. Rather than put another WM build on it, I wanted to change to Android.
I have looked through many pages in here, but I can't find a simple tutorial on switch from a custom WM build to a Android build. I prefer to use the NAND method so that I don't ever have to see WM again...
Can someone create or point me towards a step-by-step guide for installing Android? Keep in mind that I have absolutely no Android experience, and that my custom ROM is completely messed up, so would it make for sense to flash the a manf build and upgrade from there?
Thanks
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Barogi awesome so far for v2; media player not staying in full screen mode though, and manila home weather under clock wont update when you push update now also getting error message for manila home on reboot
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Did you install the CDMA home weather fix?
joshmxpx said:
Great idea for a faq page!
I have been using a NFSfan rom on my bell vogue for a while, and it crapped out today for some reason. Rather than put another WM build on it, I wanted to change to Android.
I have looked through many pages in here, but I can't find a simple tutorial on switch from a custom WM build to a Android build. I prefer to use the NAND method so that I don't ever have to see WM again...
Can someone create or point me towards a step-by-step guide for installing Android? Keep in mind that I have absolutely no Android experience, and that my custom ROM is completely messed up, so would it make for sense to flash the a manf build and upgrade from there?
Thanks
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Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628353
Good luck!
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Barogi awesome so far for v2; media player not staying in full screen mode though, and manila home weather under clock wont update when you push update now also getting error message for manila home on reboot
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As far as WMP, Barogi will have to look into it since it is his rom.
One last thing, please do not double post. Thanks for understanding...
I have a question:
I recently flashed the Bell rom with the latest radio (I couldn't get the radio only nbh to apply properly), and then subsequently flashed with the latest NagROM rom (which is awesome btw).
Now of course, at startup i have the nice HTC screen with the rom version etc, followed by an AWFUL blue BELL screen (and then the nice orange wm6.5 screen).
Is it possible to change the blue BELL screen? And if so how?
AaronNZ said:
I have a question:
I recently flashed the Bell rom with the latest radio (I couldn't get the radio only nbh to apply properly), and then subsequently flashed with the latest NagROM rom (which is awesome btw).
Now of course, at startup i have the nice HTC screen with the rom version etc, followed by an AWFUL blue BELL screen (and then the nice orange wm6.5 screen).
Is it possible to change the blue BELL screen? And if so how?
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There was a cab to change that somewhere around here in this section of the forum. Alternatively, you can flash NFSFan's rom (which will get rid of it), or you can try mine as well and then reflash Nag's rom.
Edit: Here you go
http://rapidshare.com/files/333401458/BlueBell_Screen_Removal_Rom.rar.html
Question from motoyola
motoyola said:
Help guys, I have a Sprint vogue that was flashed before. It was CID unlocked and has custom ROM on it. My cousin was the one using it then he returned it to me at this state. Problem is the phone does not have any radio. So i tried to bootload it and flash it with a radio but it does not accept it . It's now CID locked.
VOGU100 MFG
SPL-2.01.1000
CPLD-3
I tried to flash it with an OEM ROM, Sprint, USC, Alltel, telus, Bell, VZW nothing seems to work. is there any way to ICD unlock this? so i could flash it with an OEM rom. Thanks.
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Look in my signature. There is a guide for unlocking as well as superCID unlock the device. Let me know if you need help.
egzthunder1 said:
There was a cab to change that somewhere around here in this section of the forum. Alternatively, you can flash NFSFan's rom (which will get rid of it), or you can try mine as well and then reflash Nag's rom.
Edit: Here you go
http://rapidshare.com/files/333401458/BlueBell_Screen_Removal_Rom.rar.html
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Thanks, that link is broken, but I found it here (along with some other handy things)
http://www.webcoast.net/temp/
i just flash my vogue with the latest NFSFAN rom. can someone tell me the setting to get my gps to work? whenever i start googlemap it keeps on trying to connect through the data connection. (i did do that one step that NFSFAN asked for the gps dL that verizon cab)
Question from mac+htc
mac+htc said:
Hey everyone,
So I was running NSFANS 6.5 ROM on my device (Amazing ROM btw) But I needed to revert back to the stock rom. I used the VZW updater to go back to the stock rom and I changed the esn on line. When I dialed the *228 and choose option 1 I got a failed message. So I called customer support and he walked me through a manual programing. Well that got voice working but when I went to use the data it wouldn't work. I made sure all the network settings were right, and I still couldn't connect. Well then I hard reset the device and now I am back to square 1. No voice no data. Is this something from NSFANS rom that is messing the phone up? I don't want to call again because their tech support takes forever and I am afraid they are just going to tell me to take the phone into the store. Thanks in advance!
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Why did you change the E$N? Where you using the device in a different carrier?
Back to your problem. Your EPST settings should survive a hard reset as those are parameters that are not stored in Windows (afaik). It really makes not difference which rom you are using (at least for Voice and SMS).
Lets focus on your main phone's capabilities first. If your EPST settings truly got lost, you will need to get them from Verizon again. The main ones are the MSD and MIN. Make sure that you write them down this time as you will need them again if they go bye bye.
As for your internet, you will probably need to set the correct username in the phone's programming as well (also info that you will need from Verizon, but it should be something like [email protected] or something like that)
Do that and let me know if this works. They will have to program this for you this time, but once you have the values that I mentioned before, you will be able to do it yourself.
Question from pasdabeer
pasdabeer said:
I have android 2.1 currently on my vx6900, Id like to go back to close to stock Rom, but without all the verizon carrier "flavorings" and rescrictions.
Any ideas? Personaly I liked the simple clean useage of win 6.0 without all the extra graphics ( besides the HTC home plug in and the touch flo )
thanks in advance.
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Try to get Barogi's latest "lite" rom. Also, you can't go wrong with vin's 28014 or NFSFan's rom. I would recommend mine, but I think they might be a little heavy for what you want. Good luck.
i checked out NSFSfan. It was nice, but waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much for what I want. Ill check out the other you suggested before i just flash back to stock rom
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i checked out NSFSfan. It was nice, but waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much for what I want. Ill check out the other you suggested before i just flash back to stock rom
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Try to avoid stock if you can... it has a bad tendency of being too heavy on the extra apps.
I checked out just SS's of both. Both look awesome, but theres something about the simple look ( or im just used to it since my 8125 ) of the stock look. I would like to have the look but the added memory of a cooked rom.
With NSFSfans, could you remove the today screen plug ins to get back to a more stock look?
Im runnin 2.1 android eclair at the moment, and im barley pulling a full day battery with no data/bluetooth. With the old winmo, I was getting 2.5 days-3days. Thats another main concern for me.
figures, I like the way your rom looks the best! to bad hotfile lost the file : (
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figures, I like the way your rom looks the best! to bad hotfile lost the file : (
There is a temporary problem with accessing this file. Our technical team is resolving the problem right now.
HOTFILE.COM - Free one-click file hosting!
With us you can share big files easily and securely:
Just choose a file, click the "Upload" button and send the download link to your friends and anyone you know.
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Which one are you looking for?
egzthunder1 said:
...As for your internet, you will probably need to set the correct username in the phone's programming as well (also info that you will need from Verizon, but it should be something like [email protected] or something like that)...
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Verizon is [email protected]