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Convert 8 pin phone cable to mini-usb

Hello,
I have been searching everywhere on the internet, but I haven't found any good sources of information that can help me convert a 8 wire phone cable to 4 wire min-usb.
In my car I have a Bosch HA G2 Cartel phone, and it' very old. It was connected to the audio system of my car using the folowing wire :
www.sodevrom.net/wire.jpg
Now, I want to convert the 8 wire to a mini usb , so I can connect my HTC phone and listen music directly from the phone.
I found the color scheme of the wires for the mini-usb here:
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
Unfortunatly I don't know how to connet the 8 wires so I can make it in 4 wires (for the mini-usb).
I would appreciate a lot if someone could help me.
Thank you

not sure about what the 8pin include but it it's not usb signals then you cant
usb is both an electrical and digital protocol it's serial and 5volts signals
if a device is not made 100% to work with usb it will never work

HHmmm,
I have an audio cassette that has a normal audio jack. I bought an adaptor that switches from audio jack to mini-usb and it worked.
Why woulden't this work ? The mini-usb will send audio to the speakers. It must work, but I need a color scheme for the above cable, or some other methods to do what I need.
I don't want to re-cable my entire car just becouse I can't modify a cable

no htc device ever had miniUSB
no miniUSb device ever carried analog audio
htc devices use extUSB which is miniUSB with extre connectors which carry normal analog
signals like one find in 3.5mm minijack connectors
if you get a extusb connector which got a mini jack 3.5mm in the other end you can
connect any audio souse to that and it will play like a htc headset
but it have nothing to do with usb

I appologise here,
You are correct . Let me explain better.
I have an adapter that connects to my HTC phone and sends out 3 outputs :
-mini-usb
-the other usb you sayed about
-normal audio jack .
I need to connect 1 of those 3 outputs with the car cable (I sowed you in the PIC).
Here is a detailed pic
www.sodevrom.net/ineed.jpg
Thanx

that pic made me actually "lol" i like how it has random pictures to generalize what you are describing
Why do you want it to go through the Phone cord? why not directly into 3.5mm and into your car deck which then feeds it to the speakers?

That would be perfect, I thought that it's easyer to make it go through the cord.
Can you tell me a good solution on how to connect the phone directly ? Should I take out my cassette player (yea, it's old) and get the wires of the speakers ?
And also the cable that connects to my phone has 4 wires :
white, green, red, black.
Should I connect all this 4 wires or only 2 ? And if only 2 , wich ones
Thanx

2 wires are used for audio and one for ground. im not sure what the forth wire is.
I would not suggest directly connecting to your speaker wires, you wouldnt have an amplifier to boost the sound and it would come in very quiet

Hmmm... Than where should I connect it than ?
Sorry for all the questions, and thak you for the help.
Also, I think that the wires I have to connect are White and Green, right ?
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
Thanx

sodevrom said:
Hmmm... Than where should I connect it than ?
Sorry for all the questions, and thak you for the help.
Also, I think that the wires I have to connect are White and Green, right ?
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
Thanx
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HTC uses extUSB, which is not defined on that link of yours

this is the pinout of extUSB
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config

I understand this, but I want to know where to connect the right wires to the car.
I have a cassette player in my car, and I am sure it's possible to open the player and connect the htc wires.

it is possible to by a casset with a wire on the end of it to connect to something such as a cd player or mp3 player....
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you could connect this to your extusb to headphone jack. this would allow for you to play your sound through the car AND it to be amplified through the "radio" on the car....
is this what you are asking for or are you wanting a mic also?
If you are wanting a mic you are going to have to go blue tooth.
Edit: one more thing..... if you go messing with the wires of this you can mess up the computer in your car because of security precautions of manufactures.... so if your car is newer, be careful and check things out before you go splicing things

MiniUSB (not extUSB) to 3.5mm adapter

Hi Guys,
I have ASUS p320 winMo phone. I am searching for a miniUSB to 3.5mm adapter for connecting normal earphones to the phone...
There are plenty available for HTC phones and i'm sure ASUS has similar mini USB interface as HTC but problem is HTC have extUSB which has slightly different shape than regular miniUSB...extUSB pin is curved one side only unlike miniUSB which is curved at both ends...so it can not fit my phone
Are there anywhere selling miniUSB to 3.5mm adapter, which ship internationally and preferably having form factor without wires like this
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the difference between miniUSB and extUSB is that ext carry analog audio
where miniUSB is just a digital serial interface as in most of it not being audio
plugging a 3.5mm headset or otherwise audio device into an miniUSB is like
trying to connect a mic to a fax

Actually asus port is extUSB(ie has 11pins) but its port shape is miniUSB...

After much searching, I couldn't find anything like this for my Asus P565/XDA Zest. I ended up with one of these:
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2007/...lessly-blasts-tunes-from-phone-to-hifi-or-pc/
If you don't mind the extra pocket space...

Ok guys, i managed to fit the HTC adapter which i've bought for my asus by filing the extUSB to minUSB
it now fits. When i plug in the adaptor connected with an earphone i do get the handsfree icon on my phone....but when I play i don't get any sound in my earphones..
I fear that some of things i tried with the adapter before filing it may have damaged it, so there's no sound now...
Do you guys think it would work if I should get a new adapter and file it again since I do get the earphone icon on my device when i connect it?

This one has some mixed reviews on it...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UHY6XU

Seen this on ebay...will this suit? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-USB-to-3-5MM-Headset-Jack-Adapter-for-MOTOROLA-V3_W0QQitemZ350200266843QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item518990005b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A2%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A24

wovens said:
Seen this on ebay...will this suit? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-USB-to-3-5MM-Headset-Jack-Adapter-for-MOTOROLA-V3_W0QQitemZ350200266843QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item518990005b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A2%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A24
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I have one of these too. Same shape, but wrong number of pins so it doesn't work
Mafioso said:
When i plug in the adaptor connected with an earphone i do get the handsfree icon on my phone....but when I play i don't get any sound in my earphones..
I fear that some of things i tried with the adapter before filing it may have damaged it, so there's no sound now...
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This is the same thing I get with that Motorola adapter. I assume that the adapter you have doens't have the correct number of pins either. I don't think you've damaged the socket at least

Found this on ebay. Not so mini but at least you can plug your own headphones into it.
EDIT: Or this is smaller and without the microphone, just not quite as small as the HTC adaptors.

shuflie said:
Found this on ebay. Not so mini but at least you can plug your own headphones into it.
EDIT: Or this is smaller and without the microphone, just not quite as small as the HTC adaptors.
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I think the second adapter is a bit too long & unflexible. The first one though, considering I now use what is essentially an external MP3 player, looks promising and will no doubt provide better audio quality. I'll check that out, thanks!

Blade0rz said:
I have one of these too. Same shape, but wrong number of pins so it doesn't work
This is the same thing I get with that Motorola adapter. I assume that the adapter you have doens't have the correct number of pins either. I don't think you've damaged the socket at least
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hmmm...it does has correct no of pins: 11...but I don't know if adapter is damaged or pin mapping is incorrect...
anyways, I've ordered the adapter of eBay link..

I've ordered one from 4u-kidi, Hope that works with my Asus P565...

ok, i recieved the adapter which i ordered from eBay link and it works

farshid.tavakoli said:
I've ordered one from 4u-kidi, Hope that works with my Asus P565...
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I received the adapter too and it works with Asus P565.
Thanks "shuflie",

Mini-B car charger

This is a multi-part question so please read carefully
Unless it's my only option, I do NOT want to purchase a car charger made specifically for the EVO b/c of the Micro-B connector. I do, however, have plenty of car chargers that have a Mini-B connector. Now, I know I can't use those b/c they won't fit, BUT, I have my old USB "dongle" from my Touch Pro, which has an audio plug plug in it and the audio plug is next to the usb IN. This benefits me greatly b/c the setup in my car makes it a pain to have a charger going into the bottom and the audio going into the top. This way I could plug both, car charger AND audio into the dongle and plug the dongle into my phone. This worked beautifully w/ my Hero but the Hero had a Mini-B so the dongle fit right in.
Now, to make the dongle fit into my EVO, I have a tiny converter plug which has a female Mini-B and a male Micro-B.
So my question is this: since there is so much info on here regarding fast-charging, regular charging, amperage, voltage, etc.; please tell me what specs does my charger need so that it won't ruin the battery.
Like I said, I've got plenty of Mini-B chargers - do I need a 5v, 3v, 1 amp, 0.5 amp?
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Do you actually get sound out doing it this way? I was always under the impression that even with a mini to micro adapter sound still would not come out using the HTC adapter.
If this works for you I need to get a mini to micro...would make my in car setup look so much better! Instead of the whole on plug on top and bottom that I have going on.

Physically impossible.
The Hero had an ExtUSB port, which is a port physically compatible with Mini-USB but has extra pins for audio in addition to the power and data pins.
The Evo has a standard microUSB port, which only has power and data pins. There's no way to get audio out of the microUSB port on the Evo.
The only ways to get audio out are the headphone port, the HDMI port, and Bluetooth.
Anyway, I'm in the same boat. I had a car mount for my Hero that let me just plug the one cable in, and it provided audio, microphone, and power all at once. I just ordered a new car stereo with Bluetooth instead for the Evo.

Dang...I could go the bluetooth route...I just don't like playing with bluetooth, idk why.

My experience in the past is that Bluetooth has been more than a little finicky, but so far with the Evo and two car stereos (a Boss 755DBI and a JVC KD-R810) it's been rock solid. I actually like being able to leave it in my pocket or take it down from the mount without interrupting the audio signal or call.

Yeah, I am thinking about getting the Kensington LiquidAUX, and giving bluetooth a go. My stereo only has a AUX input, so I need to get something if I want bluetooth.
Plus, the remote would allow me to control without having to have the phone out, so I can leave it in my pocket if I feel to lazy to put it in my mount
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=206684059&listingid=65080086&&

I had that thing with my Hero, and it rarely worked at all, let alone well. Maybe it'll be better with the Evo.
Be sure to buy it somewhere you can return it.

[Q] Connect WP7 to Car Stereo via USB?

I would like to purchase a new cd head unit for my car and use my Zune Pass on my WP7 device to play all my music via USB.
Why USB and not 3.5mm aux cable?
1 usb cable vs 1 usb cable + 1 aux cable
I would like to be able to charge my WP7 device and control volume/play/pause/etc from the car CD head unit rather than my WP7 device
1. Has anyone tried this or have another method to get this to work?
2. How is the quality of streaming music over bluetooth?
After searching the forums I found this post related to the galaxy s:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726403&highlight=cz509
thanks

you cannot use usb and streaming music on any platform.
When you use a usb connector, then you are using your phone as usb storage device, that is why you control music from the head unit. This is not possible currently on wp7 since you cannot use your phone connected to a computer without zune installed.
The post you linked was for BT audio out, which works the same as the 3.5 jack, not usb.

any comments on the quality of BT audio out?

rxgators said:
any comments on the quality of BT audio out?
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I use the the 3.5 jack.
I thought about BT audio but so many people have had trouble with winmo and Bt that I didn't want to spend 150.00 for the module to find out it didn't work.

3.5 - RCA cable....
Thats the best way to do it... Most car head units have an RCA AUX IN on the back.
Attach the the 3.5 - RCA cable to the head unit via the RCA and plug in a 3.5 - 3.5 cable to the phone.
Thats what I'm doing now....
It's in fact the BEST way to get the most out of the audio decoder as it goes from the phone - amp - speakers/sub, so the phone can be on low imput *best way* and the amp does all the work making it sound wonderful.
here is a pic of the one cable solution...
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or the smaller version i have that i just plug in the extra cable from the glove box when i need it as the end just pops out from under the head unit with no long cables to hide.

bluetooth
bluetooth stereo is the best way to go i've been using it since windows mobile. sound quality is very good i don't notice the difference with aux cable but i have one in my car for my zune. with bluetooth you can control simple actions like you would on your phone like change tracks and volume and mine can also make calls and it shows you the name of the person calling you in the stereo lcd

USB-C MALE to 3,5mm JACK and female USB-C

Hello, is it possible to get audio out from USB?
Also is there any cable which can charge and have audio output? Thanks!
something like this.
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Any suggestions or recommendations? Thanks

why Need that when you have an AUX port on the 10?

When i dock my phone in my car, i want to plug only one wire to it. Also do not want to have 2 wires coming out from my dashboard.

Audio through usb c should work if the Audio device supports the htc 10. i've seen some cables like this, but they won't work on the 10 because only few devices work with the 10 over usb. so it Looks like you have to have 2 wires there

Do you know which ones work with hTc 10?

AdamiX said:
Do you know which ones work with hTc 10?
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nope sorry, but there should be DAC which work with htc 10. the jbl from htc Homepage work with the 10, but appearently nearly one of the few usb-c Headsets, so no real choice

I have tried this cable
and got this screen
i have found out something about driver for an HTC adapter, but i cannot get it working on my 10
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.htc.fwupdatetool&hl=en

AdamiX said:
I have tried this cable
and got this screen
i have found out something about driver for an HTC adapter, but i cannot get it working on my 10
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.htc.fwupdatetool&hl=en
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This app is only for bolt/U Ultra and u11 because they have no headphone jack and therefore it is only for those device to patch the Firmware on the usb-c to 3.5mm Adapter. this cable you have has no Firmware. that's why it won't work

So there is no way to get it working?

AdamiX said:
So there is no way to get it working?
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nope only if HTC adds support. also depends on the USB port how the wires and connections are set

A workaround would be to hook up a bluetooth receiver to your car's aux input. Then, you will only need to hook up power to your phone as it will automatically connect wirelessly for audio.

my car radio have built in BT, but there is significant difference between a wire and BT audio qualitty. Am using BT just for calls
Was hoping that i can get AUX and QC in one USB type C cable. Little diasappointed about it

DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
why Need that when you have an AUX port on the 10?
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for when the Aux port fails, like mine did

About that...
My audio jack also stopped working. So I pursued the USB C option. However, this did not work well.
I tried the zinsoko and official htc bolt adapter. The zinsoko worked for audio but not the microphone. The htc one did not work at all.
I ended up calling HTC and they said that it was covered under the regular warranty. So I sent it in and they fixed it.
Now I just need to make time to install a new ROM on my phone.
If I were you I wouldn't pursue it...just get it repaired.
-Sam