I had been successfully tethering via Bluetooth with WM6's Internet Sharing function, and was doing so in XP. Well we just took the Vista plunge and I'm having an issue. The Network Connections is showing my BT connection as "Local Only" meaning I can browse other pc's on the network, but I can't get to the internet. My WiFi connection to my router connects to the internet with no problem (The Wireless Connection shows "Local & Internet Access."
So I can not get out to the internet using my Tytn as my connection. I used the "Diagnose Problem" function in Vista, and it tells me that it cannot ping IP address 192.168.0.1. This is the IP address of my router. I don't want it to try to hit that IP address, but I can't find a way to tell it NOT to. All the settings in TCP/IP protocol are set to obtain an IP address automatically. But it seems that even while using BT as the connection, it still wants to get to my router first, even though I'm not using my WiFi at all. I even tried disabling the WiFi connection. Still the same issue.
Does anyone know what I can do to get the pc to stop trying to get my router first?
Thanks!
Tell me about it! It took me an age to find some drivers that worked with my bluetooth, I ended up using the Toshiba stack. After a lot of fiddling I got it working but when it runs it is very hit and miss and I have yet to transfer anything between devices let alone surf the net! Have you tried the bluetooth set up wizard?
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I had been successfully tethering via Bluetooth with WM6's Internet Sharing function, and was doing so in XP. Well we just took the Vista plunge and I'm having an issue. The Network Connections is showing my BT connection as "Local Only" meaning I can browse other pc's on the network, but I can't get to the internet. My WiFi connection to my router connects to the internet with no problem (The Wireless Connection shows "Local & Internet Access."
So I can not get out to the internet using my Tytn as my connection. I used the "Diagnose Problem" function in Vista, and it tells me that it cannot ping IP address 192.168.0.1. This is the IP address of my router. I don't want it to try to hit that IP address, but I can't find a way to tell it NOT to. All the settings in TCP/IP protocol are set to obtain an IP address automatically. But it seems that even while using BT as the connection, it still wants to get to my router first, even though I'm not using my WiFi at all. I even tried disabling the WiFi connection. Still the same issue.
Does anyone know what I can do to get the pc to stop trying to get my router first?
Thanks!
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stpete111 said:
I had been successfully tethering via Bluetooth with WM6's Internet Sharing function, and was doing so in XP. Well we just took the Vista plunge and I'm having an issue. The Network Connections is showing my BT connection as "Local Only" meaning I can browse other pc's on the network, but I can't get to the internet. My WiFi connection to my router connects to the internet with no problem (The Wireless Connection shows "Local & Internet Access."
So I can not get out to the internet using my Tytn as my connection. I used the "Diagnose Problem" function in Vista, and it tells me that it cannot ping IP address 192.168.0.1. This is the IP address of my router. I don't want it to try to hit that IP address, but I can't find a way to tell it NOT to. All the settings in TCP/IP protocol are set to obtain an IP address automatically. But it seems that even while using BT as the connection, it still wants to get to my router first, even though I'm not using my WiFi at all. I even tried disabling the WiFi connection. Still the same issue.
Does anyone know what I can do to get the pc to stop trying to get my router first?
Thanks!
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The internet sharing function on the TyTn used 192.168.0.1
You are saying that your router is also using the same address range.
That is a no-no. Change the router address to 192.168.1.1, and I think you will see better results.
@boz - Actually I have no issues connecting to Vista via Bluetooth, and all profiles work great (I'm using the latest Broadcomm stack). My issue is in my Network Connections, not BT itself.
@Wildbill - the Tytn is not using 192.168.0.1. The PC is trying to ping that IP address because it is the address of my wireless router, and the first time I ever accessed the net with that pc, I did so via WiFi through my wireless router at home. Now, what I am trying to do though is get on the internet in my car, while nowhere near my wireless router. But my pc still seems to want to get to my router as though I'm trying to connect to the net via Wifi, when I'm actually just trying to get to it through my phone. The PC connects to the phone with no problem, and the phone is connected to the internet, But, my problem is that I can't figure out how to tell my pc to NOT look for my wireless router's IP address first.
BT DUN was so much easier with Cingular. I wish one of the cooks could figure out how to get the DUN profile back into WM6's BT stack.
I am really confused here.
When you use Internet Sharing on the TyTn, You are using the Tytn to allow other devices to access the Internet thru the TyTn.
When you do that, the TyTn hands out the address of 192.168.0.100 and it is the gateway, and the Gateway address is 192.168.0.1.
If you have your home router using the same address range, you have the PC that the Tytn is sharing it's internet connection with seeing to addresses within the same range, and two gateways with the same address - The PC LAN card is seing the router at 192.168.0.1 and the Buetooth PAN is seing the phone gateway at the same 0.1 That is what I was trying to say. It won't work like that.
Oh ok I see what you're saying. I was assuming that when it gave me the error, that it was trying to ping my router since I knew that to be my router's address. I did not realize that the Tytn used such a similar gateway.
To correct what I said in my first post: I said that it was trying to ping "IP address"... the exact error message reads "Connot Communicate with DNS Server 192.168.0.1"
It shows a nifty little diagram of the PC connected to the Cingular Bluetooth network connection, then another line connecting to a picture of earth, which they call "internet," but there is a red "X" over that line showing that it can't connect to internet. When you click on Diagnose problem, the above error message is what comes up.
So now, I need to make sure I understand what you are saying Wildbill. I see what you mean from your post... being that I don't connect to my router anymore, ever, at all (since the pc never comes out of the car anymore, and I'm way out of range of my wireless router even in the driveway) what do I need to change? Everything in TCP/IP protocol settings are set to obtain addresses automatically.
Another interesting thing to note is that I did not have this problem when I had XP in my car, and I connected to my wireless router with that pc too. But Internet sharing worked fine with it.
If the only things connected are the TyTn and a PC, then the PC will obtain an IP from the TyTn, and it will be 192.168.1.100. It will tell the pc that the gateway is 192.168.0.1, which is the TyTn. Since the TyTn has Bluetooth 2.0, I would speculate that you could connect additional BT devices to the same BT PAN, and the TytN would likely hand out additional addreses like 0.101, 0.102, etc. I have not tried that nor have I read about it.
See that's what I gathered too. So I don't know why it can't get out to the internet, unless it's that Vista just won't let it for some reason. This bugs me because Internet Sharing worked fine in XP, and BT DUN works fine with Vista with my other phone. Unfortunately I'm getting rid of that phone. If my Tytn had a DUN profile in the BT stack I'd be fine. Weak.
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im trying to get an internet connection through my wifi connection. i have done search's and lots of people seem to be asking the same question but nobody has the answer.
at the moment i can access my c: using an application called Resco explorer. but i can not connect to the internet. im not sure what setting i should have on the wifi manger and on my pc. im also using AOL as my isp.
PLS PLS help :lol:
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also i can not connect to activesync (version 3.8.0) via wifi. maybe if i was able to connect to this the internet would work as it does when its docked??????
looks like a no then
I got mine working but setting my wireless network adapter to connect to "Work".
Under Settings>Connections>Tasks>Manage existing connections>Proxy Settings> check the "This network connects to the internet" box
then
Under Settings>Connections>Advanced>Select Networks> "Programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using:" to "My Work Network" (and the same with one for private network)
Also in your active sync settings, make sure your connection settings allow network (Ethernet) and RAS connections.
From previous research around this, i'm pretty sure you can only use the internet pass through under "WORK" settings only.
*thought i'd better register and contribute as i've gained a fair bit from this forum.
no good anyother ideas. i have searched through hundreds of threads and still no go
help pls
Make sure you have "Enable Netbios over TCP/IP" checked in your TCP/IP Advanced settings.
i have done this on both my wifi network and my isp network.
still not working
Have you checked if you're getting an IP address from your Wireless Router's DHCP server? Also DNS settings and Gateway address should be there.
You can check this easily by using vxUtil (free )
these are my settings:
tiacxwln1 - tiacxwln compatible wireless
Ip address 192.168.0.2
subnet mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1
primary DNS 192.168.0.1
secondary dns
primary wins
seconfdary wins
DHCPs server 192.168.0.1
under serial usb
IP address 192.168.55.101
subnet mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.55.100
primary DNS 127.0.0.1
Getting this error when I tried to allow my broadband connection to share with my wifi connection. If I unplug the wifi connection and try and share with another network I don’t get any errors.
Internet connection sharing (ics) cannot be enabled due to IP address conflict on the network. ICS requires the host be configured to use 192.168.0.1 please ensure that no other client on the network is configured to use 192.168.0.1
hmmm ... ever had the same problem. all devices are able to connect to the same router except mine sx66.
then i change the router's channel to '1' .. tada .. now everyone is connected. it might sounds silly, but it worked for me.
try changing your ap wireless channel.
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also i can not connect to activesync (version 3.8.0) via wifi. maybe if i was able to connect to this the internet would work as it does when its docked??????
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i found the problem with activesync 3.8 and 4.0 somehow, so i reverted back to 3.7, now wifi can sync.
afaik, connecting to internet has nothing to do with activesync. its a direct connection to wifi router. use work location and check the proxy settings if u hv any? (at home i use connect to internet without proxy, at work i use connect to internet with proxy).
Also, for Activsync with wifi, make sure that the WINS server address is that of yr PC u want to sync with.
Hi,
I'm experiencing a weird problem and please let me know if it's only my problem or there is some work around for it.
My phone is SX66 upgraded to 1.40 ROM + 1.13 Radio stack
I can connect Wifi fine whenever I have some phone signal (at work). Whenever I go home where the phone signal is weak then the WIFI couldn't get connected (I believe I set up my home network correctly as I've been using it for so long and configure it for several computer/laptop in house). The network could detect the AP with the SSID but I just couldn't connect to it even I'm sitting right next to the AP.
ROM 1.40
Radio: 1.13
MDD
Are you sure it isn't connecting? What has led you to this conclusion?
Is it possible that it is connecting, but that you just can't browse the internet, in which case check your connection proxy settings. If your work uses a proxy server and you've enabled the pass-through setting in ActiveSync, your network connection may be configured with your work proxy server.
If you're sure you're just not connecting however, things to check are;
WEP/WPA Encryption - If you're using it and have other wireless devices on your network, you no doubt know what to do. If not, say so & I can help you.
DHCP - Does your router/AP support Auto-IP Addressing? Is it enabled? If not, you'll have to configure the WiFi card with a static IP within the same subnet as your router. Ask if you need help.
MAC Filtering - Are you blocking unauthorised MAC Addresses (on your router/ap)?
Interference - Wireless A/V Senders and digital cordless phones are common culprits for RFI. 802.11x APs support multiple channels (most default to channel 11), and you can change these in case of interference. Once again, if you have other WiFi gear already connected with good, strong signals, you can probably discount this one.
Sorry if this is all elementary to you - I don't know how technical you are.
Thanks for your reply.
> Are you sure it isn't connecting? What has led you to this conclusion?
Yes, I've check wireless status on the phone. "Connected to the network", and the AP with DHCP on showed the status of an IP has been allocate to the SX66 mac address. However I dont' really believe it then I check the "Adater", it said network available, and the WIFI icon just didnot show any traffic.
> Is it possible that it is connecting, but that you just can't browse the internet, in which case check your connection proxy settings. If your work uses a proxy server and you've enabled the pass-through setting in ActiveSync, your network connection may be configured with your work proxy server.
I've experience once with the internet connection via Active Sync so I disable the passthrough. Both home and work doesn't have proxy server so I selected not to have any on the phone.
> WEP/WPA Encryption - If you're using it and have other wireless devices on your network, you no doubt know what to do. If not, say so & I can help you.
At work, I have 128 WEP and the connection works fine with the key. At home, I open my network but using MAC filtering to protect it. I have problem with the open network one at home. Perhaps, I will try to setup WEP at home and see if it can work.
The only thing I'm not really clear is the difference between setting "WPA" and "WPA-PSK" from the phone.
> DHCP - Does your router/AP support Auto-IP Addressing? Is it enabled? If not, you'll have to configure the WiFi card with a static IP within the same subnet as your router. Ask if you need help.
Yes, DHCP enable as I don't want to change it back and forth when traveling.
> MAC Filtering - Are you blocking unauthorised MAC Addresses (on your router/ap)?
I do it and I already opened the network and then captured the MAC address into the AP memory. (that's why I think it's connected but will check).
> Interference -
Not really, I'm 6' away from the AP and I don't have any cordless device in my computer room.
> Sorry if this is all elementary to you - I don't know how technical you
are.
No problem, I'd like to learn more about this PDA. The concept is about the same with PC, but the tools to debug is not there. I can't use tracert/traceroute, ifconfig or ping broadcast to really know if I'm the network.
Once again, thanks a lot.
Okay, well it sounds like you're on the right track & know what you're doing.
A useful troubleshooting tool, which gives you tracert, ping, whios, ipconfig and a host of other tools is "vxUtil", which is freeware. I'd give you a URL for downloading it, but I'm on my iMate now (sipping coffee by the Yarra in a Melbourne Cafe - oh what a techno-wanker am I!), but search these forums or Google it and you'll find it.
Now, regarding the proxy thing... These PPCs are a little tricky with their internet settings, and I had to create a different 'connect using...' connection profile, if that makes sense. The important setting within the profile, which is under the Proxy tab, from memory, is "This network connects to the internet".
Now for some reason, if you don't enter in a proxy server here, that check-box doesn't stay checked when you ok your way out. So what I've had to do is go into the advanced area & enter anything in the "wap" proxy, then ok out.
Strange, but it seems to work. Although I always leave my "Private network" on "My Work Network", I can now browse the 'Net through the WiFi AP/Router.
Download vxUtil & see if you can ping your AP, then go from there.
I've worked around the problem by using static IP address instead of depending on DHCP. Thanks to Hitchhiker software. I noticed that it was trying to obtain IP address from DHCP but failed. (The very same DHCP work wells for the rest of my network). Anyway, I will use Hitchhiker to switch IP back and forth if necessary.
Thanks a lot!
MDD
Great to hear you found the problem - well done.
Hi there, I have a big problem that will force me to downgrade to WM5 if I can't solve it.
Here's the facts:
I don't have a telephone line at home and I'm connecting to internet using a flat GPRS/UMTS connection with Vodafone using my TyTN as bluetooth modem (using the old WM5 DUN profile).
Since I upgraded to WM6 (and I love it) the DUN profile and Wireless Modem has been replaced by Internet Sharing application. It works very fine but it messes up my network connection with my other PC.
I used to share the internet connection this way: the bluetooth modem was connected to my main PC (AMD Sempron). The LAN (manually setted up) on this PC was: 192.168.0.1 / subnet 255.255.255.0. The LAN (manually setted up) on other PC (AMD Athlon) was 192.160.0.10 / subnet 255.255.255.0 / gateway 192.168.0.1. It all worked very fine.
Now as I connect the PAN bluetooth internet sharing my main PC (Sempron) acquires a new network address (the TyTN seems to be automatically setted as 192.168.0.1) so the LAN on the PC is 192.168.0.153 /subnet 255.255.255.0 /gateway 192.160.0.1 and the connection works fine but I'm not able anymore to connect via LAN tothe other PC even if I try different LAN settings on the Athlon (I tried to manually set it as 192.168.0.10 /subnet 255.255.255.0).
Who can tell me how to configure the LAN setting on the 2 PCs so that I can access internet enabling PAN bluetooth on the TyTN with the main PC (Sempron) and still continue accessing remote folders and files via LAN on the other PC (Athlon)?
It would be great if I could share the connection with the 2 PCs like I did before, but I'll be ok if I can connect to internet with one and have a working LAN between the 2 PCs.
Hope I explained it well.
Waiting for suggestions. Thank you!
Pick a machine that is to be the internet gateway. Do this by initiating the BT PAN network on the first machine. On the first machine's IP stack, Enable Internet Connection Sharing. On the second machine, use the first machine's IP as your default gateway.
You should then be able to access the internet from both machines.
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Hi there, I have a big problem that will force me to downgrade to WM5 if I can't solve it.
Here's the facts:
I don't have a telephone line at home and I'm connecting to internet using a flat GPRS/UMTS connection with Vodafone using my TyTN as bluetooth modem (using the old WM5 DUN profile).
Since I upgraded to WM6 (and I love it) the DUN profile and Wireless Modem has been replaced by Internet Sharing application. It works very fine but it messes up my network connection with my other PC.
I used to share the internet connection this way: the bluetooth modem was connected to my main PC (AMD Sempron). The LAN (manually setted up) on this PC was: 192.168.0.1 / subnet 255.255.255.0. The LAN (manually setted up) on other PC (AMD Athlon) was 192.160.0.10 / subnet 255.255.255.0 / gateway 192.168.0.1. It all worked very fine.
Now as I connect the PAN bluetooth internet sharing my main PC (Sempron) acquires a new network address (the TyTN seems to be automatically setted as 192.168.0.1) so the LAN on the PC is 192.168.0.153 /subnet 255.255.255.0 /gateway 192.160.0.1 and the connection works fine but I'm not able anymore to connect via LAN tothe other PC even if I try different LAN settings on the Athlon (I tried to manually set it as 192.168.0.10 /subnet 255.255.255.0).
Who can tell me how to configure the LAN setting on the 2 PCs so that I can access internet enabling PAN bluetooth on the TyTN with the main PC (Sempron) and still continue accessing remote folders and files via LAN on the other PC (Athlon)?
It would be great if I could share the connection with the 2 PCs like I did before, but I'll be ok if I can connect to internet with one and have a working LAN between the 2 PCs.
Hope I explained it well.
Waiting for suggestions. Thank you!
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Pick a machine that is to be the internet gateway. Do this by initiating the BT PAN network on the first machine. On the first machine's IP stack, Enable Internet Connection Sharing. On the second machine, use the first machine's IP as your default gateway.
You should then be able to access the internet from both machines.
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Ok, I started the BT PAN on my main machine (AMD Sempron) but how do I enable the connection sharing? When I was using the DUN connection I used the Advanced Options section to enable the Connction Sharing, but where do I find this opzion now?
On a Windows Machine the IP range to be assigned when Internet Connection Sharing is turned on is 192.168.0.x. That is also the range used by Internet Sharing on the phone. This is a routing conflict. You cant have a 0.x being handed out from the phone to the 1st computer and then have that computer handing out 0.x addresses to any other computers. The IP range the Phone hands out needs to be regedited to something else like 192.168.1.x As far as I know, you cannot change the address range in Windows Internet Connection Sharing. You will have to do it on the phone.
If this helps.
I've been looking endlessly to find out how to share my internet connection with my mobile device over an adhoc wifi connection. I know most will say get router as they are very cheap but there must be a way to do this without a router.
I have enabled ICS on my internet connection in vista but the IP's that are assigned to both the pc and mobile connection when the devices are connected are temporary in the range of 169.x.x.x
The bright side of things is that I can share files seamlessly between the pc and the mobile device, which means all is good except for the internet. There must be a way to bind the device's ip to enable it to share the internet of the PC.
I have searched and searched and I have found nothing. Your comments and suggestions would be greatly appreciated, in other words HEEELLLPPP
You need to bridge the Wi-Fi and internet connection. You do this in Control Panel, Network & Sharing Center then 'Manage Network Connections' on the left hand side.
A new page will open showing your internet connection and your wireless connection. Hold down shift and left click on each of them. Next right click on one of the icons and select 'Bridge Connections'
Thanks MaskedMarauder, sadly though my broadband internet connection is through a dialup and hence I cannot bridge the dialup and the wireless connection. If that only can be done somehow, the problem would most definitely be solved.
Thanks for your help.
the way ya doin it with ICS will work. you need to goto properties/advanced...Internet connection sharing and hit the settings button..then tick the DHCP boxes, that will broadcast the IP so ya winmobile will get a DHCP IP address. thats for XP but it should be pretty similiar. I was having heaps of probs getting ics to work adhoc...
you may need to re setup ICS thou, because it wont work unless it uses the IP given when ya first set it up, eg. you cant have manually setup IP addresses in the wifi card.
Thanks Speedn, it looks like you've been through what I'm going through now. Unfortunately again on vista there's no way to adjust the DHCP for ics. I remember having similiar problems on xp but I've resorted to setting the ip's manually and all worked fine, downside was that I had to manually undo everything to connect to a regular access point. On vista that doesn't work though.
Vista is certainly doing something weird here with assigning the ip's.
Thanks anyway for your input.
Hi I have m700 with a wifi connection and an olde laptop with no wifi, I have upgraded it with vista (My laptop) and can connect the pda via WMDC, and also have modem link in schap's wm6 rom. is there software or a possible way to use my m700's wifi connection through usb on laptop, then use the laptops internet like wifi card/adaptor? any help appreciated. v
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I have tried this already, this just routes ad-hoc (computer to Computer) wifi connection, the wifi I connect to is infrastructure. I need to use the wifi in my pda and somehow to use it through the usb port into my vista laptop, like as a wireless receiver or using the pdas wifi whilst its connected. thanks for that route, but been there, unless i'm missing something. please let me know if so. thanks
I see what your trying to do but im not sure you can do that,
I havnt tested it but i would try this:
you could give your PC a static IP and find the PDA's IP when its connected to your laptop via USB, then enter
Attach your PDA to a WiFi network and find its IP, then connect your laptop to the PDA via USB, then give your laptop a static IP in the same subnet as the PDA and give one of the DNS servers as the PDA's IP and the other as the DNS server thAt the PDA has picked up from the WiFi network.
Make sure IE is set to 'automaticlly detect proxy setting'. In my head this should work but i have found what i think and what can actuly happen is VERY different.
Let me know how it gets on or at least post the outcome.
Thank you
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I see what your trying to do but im not sure you can do that,
I havnt tested it but i would try this:
you could give your PC a static IP and find the PDA's IP when its connected to your laptop via USB, then enter
Attach your PDA to a WiFi network and find its IP, then connect your laptop to the PDA via USB, then give your laptop a static IP in the same subnet as the PDA and give one of the DNS servers as the PDA's IP and the other as the DNS server thAt the PDA has picked up from the WiFi network.
Make sure IE is set to 'automaticlly detect proxy setting'. In my head this should work but i have found what i think and what can actuly happen is VERY different.
Let me know how it gets on or at least post the outcome.
Thank you
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WOW! you know ur stuff, but i wouldn't know the first thing about the info you gave me. do a dummies guide and i'll try it. cheers for the info tho.
Hmm, dunno if that would work - no harm in trying though..
If you connect via usb then it will setup from the activsync and the dhcp within it, normally along the lines of 169.254.2.2 - but you would have to use this subnet to switch the laptop too (don't use 1 as that will most probs be the dhcp svr) in order to communicate with the device and this is where I see the problem.
You would only be connecting to the device, u can not use the wireless subnet as you have no connection to this just the pda, so if you set your laptop to the subnet of the wifi by rights the network should just look at you blankly as it will not be able to see past the activsync connection to get to the wifi subnet.
Or at least that's how I'd see it happening.
I think i'll just buy a wireless receiver. lol. haven't got a clue what you are both telling me. thanks anyway. maybe somebody can create a cab with settings if poss, or a program?
would there not be a hack or reg change, which in the wifi-router download at start of thread, which will add or change the ad-hoc connection to infrastructure instead? or would this be impossible? thanks
btw: you a running vista on a laptop which is so old that it doesn't have wifi???
i think you should go for a wifistick (~ 10-15 €?!?)