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Windows Mobile VI - BLACK EDITION v1.2PTT
................welcome to the dark side of the force - Push It, Push it Real GOOD!!!!
TEAM MEMBERS: jasjamming, walshieau, shogunmark
................................the 3 amigos!
This ROM will be based on Black V1.2.
Here are some initial screen shots, more screen shots will come soon (before release)
Update, PTT is embedded at this stage, working on new PTT dialer.
can u also include Cyberon Voice Dialer??
thx
Penske MB said:
can u also include Cyberon Voice Dialer??
thx
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At this stage, for the sake of consistency, both PTT and NON-PTT Black ROM versions 1.1 will contain the same customizations/apps.
in version 2 of both rom flavours we are considering adding a voice commander/dialer.
jasjamming said:
At this stage, for the sake of consistency, both PTT and NON-PTT Black ROM versions 1.1 will contain the same customizations/apps.
in version 2 of both rom flavours we are considering adding a voice commander/dialer.
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Hopefully it will be easy to remove since Cyberion VC is probably the worst voice dialer on the market.
MrDSL said:
Hopefully it will be easy to remove since Cyberion VC is probably the worst voice dialer on the market.
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Cyberion VC...Yech...Just provide people with the cab so they can install it if they want later. I'd rather do my own thing with M$ VC 1.6.
xultar said:
Cyberion VC...Yech...Just provide people with the cab so they can install it if they want later. I'd rather do my own thing with M$ VC 1.6.
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point taken,
thanks for feedback
Now back to the kitchen........ my wife is jelous that I can cook as good as her
The fact is Cyberon Voice Dialer does NOT work with this ROM......
Maybe it was bad, but it work better than VC to me...
jasjamming said:
point taken,
thanks for feedback
Now back to the kitchen........ my wife is jelous that I can cook as good as her
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I'm @ home sick in bed...waitin for my Rom soup! (Really I'm sick as a dog today home from work.) I LOVE your Black WM6 editions. Yours was the first I pulled the trigger on for my 8525 and I just love it.
I love all our Rom 6 chefs!!!!
oh ya..
Deffiantly interested!
Penske MB said:
The fact is Cyberon Voice Dialer does NOT work with this ROM......
Maybe it was bad, but it work better than VC to me...
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here is the download link for cyberon voice dial for WM VI Black 1.1
Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35541&d=1174100357
Roger that, already in middle of flashing....
thx, good job!!
jasjamming said:
here is the download link for cyberon voice dial for WM VI Black 1.1
Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35541&d=1174100357
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jasjamming said:
point taken,
thanks for feedback
Now back to the kitchen........ my wife is jelous that I can cook as good as her
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I think I posted a similiar Remark in another of your threads, but I think If the "Cooks" creade a base OS, then a series of Cabs, that can be added.
eg.
OS + PTT + Video Call + Smart Dialer + Add Mod 01 .... etc. etc.
Then we just need a matrix of what is Mutually Exclusive and what can Co-incide..
My ideal would to get a ROM that does what my current 5 Rom Does and that is the , "OS + PTT + Video Call + Smart Dialer " as a bare minimum. As I use all of these every day..
Anyway, Just a Wish List..
Good work Guys, and thanks,
jasjamming...
While I know that it would make the file size huge, you might consider releasing an installer program that allows you to select what options you want, and then the program cooks the ROM right there for you to install to your handheld... it's just a thought. Maybe to keep file size down you can make it download the options when the user selects them.
Lockjaw said:
I think I posted a similiar Remark in another of your threads, but I think If the "Cooks" creade a base OS, then a series of Cabs, that can be added.
eg.
OS + PTT + Video Call + Smart Dialer + Add Mod 01 .... etc. etc.
Then we just need a matrix of what is Mutually Exclusive and what can Co-incide..
My ideal would to get a ROM that does what my current 5 Rom Does and that is the , "OS + PTT + Video Call + Smart Dialer " as a bare minimum. As I use all of these every day..
Anyway, Just a Wish List..
Good work Guys, and thanks,
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while all of that sounds great, there seems to be a slight problem that some of us are trying to overcome.. and thats the dialer with video calling + PTT .... its a b!tch to say the least
ptt
Does any wm6 edition have PTT as of yet??? I love the speed and look of wm6 but i use PTT alot....PLEASE IF THERE IS ANYWAY POSSIBLE let me know, Paypal reward would definitely be in order! I had to go back to wm5 and it just seems like it crawls compared!
lewi1032 said:
Does any wm6 edition have PTT as of yet??? I love the speed and look of wm6 but i use PTT alot....PLEASE IF THERE IS ANYWAY POSSIBLE let me know, Paypal reward would definitely be in order! I had to go back to wm5 and it just seems like it crawls compared!
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Doode...didn't you read the first post. That is what this entire beta test is about...WM6 with PTT.
You're new and that is cool. The easiest advice I can give you about enjoying yourself @ XDA is to READ...READ...READ....READ...READ...READ....READ...
READ...READ....READ...READ...READ....READ...READ...READ....READ...
Start @ the first post of a thread and work your way through. You'll get to know people and you will learn a heck of a lot.
But you'll get banged up if you post stuff that ask the exact same things that have been aswered or don't read a thread.
You'll especially get especially banged up if you post a question that pertains to the very first post in a thread...or the title of said thread.
With that said...welcome to XDA. Don't forget to read. Then go to the wiki and read which is posted as a sticky in all of the the Hermes forums.
lewi1032 said:
Does any wm6 edition have PTT as of yet??? I love the speed and look of wm6 but i use PTT alot....PLEASE IF THERE IS ANYWAY POSSIBLE let me know, Paypal reward would definitely be in order! I had to go back to wm5 and it just seems like it crawls compared!
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Yeah when this version is open to public send fifty bucks to my paypal account and I will gladly send you the link to download. LOL!!
Seriously though if you will just be patiant, they will release the link to download the rom as soon as they feel it is ready. As for making a donation, you could always donate to this forum or the creators of this rom could make a link for a donation for all of their hard work and efforts.
WM VI Black is the best!
Hats off to all those involved in making this rom.
Keep up the good work!
SORRY, maybe I didnt explain good enough in the post or it didnt come out right...I have read and read and read!!! I have been in these threads for years, I have installed wm6 and love it. I have not been able to find any .cab or registry edit for the ptt, I seen that this is a "closed beta" WITH PTT. I was just hoping that there might be a .cab or reg edit to use right now so I dont have to use the current wm5 that I have had to revert back to using for the ptt. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE WM6 ROM COOKERS OUT THERE!!!
lewi1032 said:
SORRY, maybe I didnt explain good enough in the post or it didnt come out right...I have read and read and read!!! I have been in these threads for years, I have installed wm6 and love it. I have not been able to find any .cab or registry edit for the ptt, I seen that this is a "closed beta" WITH PTT. I was just hoping that there might be a .cab or reg edit to use right now so I dont have to use the current wm5 that I have had to revert back to using for the ptt. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE WM6 ROM COOKERS OUT THERE!!!
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PTT is not avail on any wm6 rom. Black Edn will be hopefully the first.
lewi1032 said:
SORRY, maybe I didnt explain good enough in the post or it didnt come out right...I have read and read and read!!! I have been in these threads for years, I have installed wm6 and love it. I have not been able to find any .cab or registry edit for the ptt, I seen that this is a "closed beta" WITH PTT. I was just hoping that there might be a .cab or reg edit to use right now so I dont have to use the current wm5 that I have had to revert back to using for the ptt. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE WM6 ROM COOKERS OUT THERE!!!
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no, there is no cab available as it requires certain system dll's that have to be integrated into the rom.... but i can assure you its being worked on...
Have anyone got the PTT to work on WM6?
Please save your time if you only have to say use the search or the wiki.
Thank you.
RTFW and Search... j/k
PTT and WM6 itself is being worked on.. it has proved to be quite challenging... But im sure after we get it figured out that it will be easy to port to other versions...
shogunmark said:
RTFW and Search... j/k
PTT and WM6 itself is being worked on.. it has proved to be quite challenging... But im sure after we get it figured out that it will be easy to port to other versions...
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How far is the project and where can I find the development documentation-wiki or whatever is being use to track progress?
Thank you.
NOTE: By the way I got the application apparently running but i still can not register with cingular. I keep receiving a SMS with an error code. My next step will be re import every setting from the registry (WM5 with PTT fully working). I guess I still have something missing.
Guys,
I've been flashing my beloved Hermes so many times that I have lost count.
Most of the issues had I managed to solve myself and by reading through.
With the latest ATT ROM very stripped own ROM (out MMS, PTT, Transcriber, Ringtones, Cyberon, Camera, Calculator and other minor stuff that I usually take out) I find that assigning apps to button 5 do not work either by personal cab settings or via start/settings. I usually do that for flashlight and brighter screen.
I also took out all the autoconfigurations from Preconfig.txt or Config.txt from original ExtROM.
With earlier TMOB 3.61 (stripped similar to above minus PTT obvious) it works okay, just re-tested -- so no hardware issue.
Is there any experienced ATT ROM cooker that can put some light in here please?
Is it PTT realated somwhow?
Many thanks in advance for your support,
dan
It is definitely PTT related. You can have it back with the great PTTFix from Sleuth.
If you get error on startup because of the missing PTT Service, just replace the \windows\PTTFix.dll with the one here. Sleuth was kind enough to build this special dll to get this issue fixed.
Well PTT is out completely (stripped) as I do not have use for it and therefore that .dll do (did) not help. (copied it anyway).
As additional info all the changes done via start/settings/buttons to button five do not reflect in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\40C6 or 7.
For the other buttons is okay. Very weird.
You missunderstood what I said. This DLL is a part of a service; it require 1 other file and some registry setting to works correctly. The easiest way to have all this done is to setup the PTTFix from sleuth (can be found in the Hermes upgrading section I think) and then to replace the PTTFix with this one.
Last step is to go to Setting -> Button and to have it configured.
This DLL is especialy made for rom without PTT service but the ATT keyboarddr.dll.
Gee you were faster typing than me, I already did that and it worked!!
I lack the knowledge to understand why, but it worked great.
I owe you one.
Thanks,
dan
hey fun_key i think that i also misunderstand your guidelines.
please, correct me if i'm wrong
first i have to install the vp3G_PTT_Reassign.cab
and later substitute the pttfix.dll with the one provided by Sleuth.
then if there is another required file and some registry settings, which of the vp3G_PTT_Reassign.cab files can be safely deleted to continue enyoying the 5 button feature. Do you know it?
thanks for your help
ok, finally i've figured it out. i was completely wrong.
what did i have to do was to install the ptt.fix.cab from the sleuth post "Cingular ROM users: PTT function hacked!" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279585
and later your posted in this threed pttfix.dll.
Now i have a working button. the pity is that it is not recognized by AE Button and now i can not assign more that the default 2 actions ( press & press and hold). With AE button were possible 4 actions.
but thanks a lot anyway Fun_key
I'm loving NFSFAN's new Bell ROM, but i'm not crazy about the slide to answer on the phone canvas.
I'm looking for a way to replace the slide to answer / ignore with buttons instead of a slider while keeping everything else the same.
I've researched different skins for this dialer (there are some cool looking ones out there!!) but none of these change the slider.
Any help would be appreciated.
This one works for me; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429179. There is also a black version somewhere Google 'Black Minimal Dialer'
I've now been using NFSFAN's ROM for a few days now.
Must say i've gotten quite used to the dialer. I like all of the other features. Especially the "in call curtain". While i'm still not in love with slide to answer I understand the concept of why it was created. If I want to press a button that's what the hardware key is for!!
I wasn't really looking for a new dialer, but i've learnt the slide is an integral part of the package.
Thanks for the response anyways. You were the only one to do so. (everyone else was probably busy shaking their heads!!!)
now mine might sound like a really stupid question, but can I install the opal's slide to answer dialer on my sprint htc vogue ? are all the ## codes working for you on your phone ?
Yes, everything works (911 etc)
In NFSFAN's words, the data connection is not active during a call, it just breaks the data errors.
The dialer is included in his ROM, i'm not really sure if the same one is found anywhere in CAB format. A quick google search for "opal slide to answer CDMA" should yield some results for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466519
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44017
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53599
and many others!!
Happy hunting,
Jason
thanks jmitr for your patient answer and the links to the solutions.. really really appreciate your patience and yes I just installed it and working fine now.. love the new dialer...
i spoke too sooon... i installed the complete cab by mbarvian and then tried juggaloo's cab but it was for VGA graphics, i tried mbarvian and conflippers cab but that messed up everything...
just mbarvians cab - didn't display the incall screen properly.... it was all greyed out...
now i can't find a single good cab which displays everything like it should... i don't want to do any more trial and error and find out... please help me on this ...
i dont mind not having the canvas - atleast i get a bigger picture on caller screen and thats all i want right now...
I know s2u2 has a large picture to answer the phone with.
I don't use it anymore, I found it drained my battery too fast. With NFSFAN's rom and the opal dialer it isn't really needed anyways.
Sorry none of the links led to anything fruitful, my only experience with this dialer is in the custom ROM. Must say it has grown on me though!!
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i spoke too sooon... i installed the complete cab by mbarvian and then tried juggaloo's cab but it was for VGA graphics, i tried mbarvian and conflippers cab but that messed up everything...
just mbarvians cab - didn't display the incall screen properly.... it was all greyed out...
now i can't find a single good cab which displays everything like it should... i don't want to do any more trial and error and find out... please help me on this ...
i dont mind not having the canvas - atleast i get a bigger picture on caller screen and thats all i want right now...
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I've been using this on my Sprint Touch for months now with out any issues. Here's a link for a post I have up at PPCGeeks for you to check out . Please let me know if you have any problems. If you don't want the lock feature, don't install Albert's cab...
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i spoke too sooon... i installed the complete cab by mbarvian and then tried juggaloo's cab but it was for VGA graphics, i tried mbarvian and conflippers cab but that messed up everything...
just mbarvians cab - didn't display the incall screen properly.... it was all greyed out...
now i can't find a single good cab which displays everything like it should... i don't want to do any more trial and error and find out... please help me on this ...
i dont mind not having the canvas - atleast i get a bigger picture on caller screen and thats all i want right now...
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I had trouble getting the dialer to work initially also. It seemed to be tied to the rom build that something changed after the 20XXX rom build was released. If I used anything earlier it wouldn't work. If your on a stock rom that may be part of the issue. Not sure, but just my experience in fixing the issue.
It is tied to a shell component.
NFSFAN said:
It is tied to a shell component.
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Hey thanks for the reply NFSFAN, the slide to answer was the only part of your ROM that I didn't really like......at first. I couldn't imagine going back to the old dialer now.
It is good to learn what's possible and what's not though, thanks again for the answer.
Cheers,
Jason
jmitr said:
Yes, everything works (911 etc)
In NFSFAN's words, the data connection is not active during a call, it just breaks the data errors.
The dialer is included in his ROM, i'm not really sure if the same one is found anywhere in CAB format. A quick google search for "opal slide to answer CDMA" should yield some results for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466519
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44017
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53599
and many others!!
Happy hunting,
Jason
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Codes don't work for me on the verizon beta rom. Is it just me or do you have to use the folder rather than the dialer?
AT&T, in their typical way, pre-loaded the Tilt2 with tons of garbage bloatware. Free RAM is patheticly low, as is the roughly 100MB of storage space....
Is it possible to go about deleting stuff thats pre-installed, or is that going to require flashing a custom ROM?
Are there any ROM's available yet which keep all the critical components but remove all the garbage stuff so a user can choose to reinstall only what he wants via cab?
I sympathize with you on that. I couldn't take not being able to have more than 2 programs open without the task manager killing them. I ended up flashing to the latest NRG rom. The 2 tab opera limit was insane too.
I must say that the frustrations with doing this now include some keyboard functionality lost and the loss of the good ATT software. For instance, I can't download the ATT WiFi Hotspot software because I lost my ATT Media Mall.
Are you by chance able to post your opera proxy settings. I can try and grab the cab once I have these settings and share it with the forum.
Easiest way is to find opera.config or opera.ini and see if the settings are in there and copy to the forum. Also found if you type in opera:config in your address bar and look under proxy.
Got these settings from a FUZE forum post:
[Proxy]
Use Proxy On Local Names Check=1
HTTP Server=wireless.cingular.com
HTTPS server=wireless.cingular.com
Use HTTP=1
Use HTTPS=1
Enable HTTP 1.1 for proxy=1
Seems to have done the trick. I'll upload the ATT Wifi Cab tonight when I'm home.
Yea, I've also gone to the NRG ROM.... SO MUCH faster and so much more free RAM & ROM its insane.
its a real shame ATT loads so much junk on the phone. I know all carriers love to do that, but it just seems like the Tilt2 is particularly polluted with crapware.
Anyhow, now I'm happy...
I sure miss AT&T
Just got my TP2 a few days ago and loaded the NRG Photon rom yesterday... Soo much faster than the AT&T rom... I did forget about the AT&T Wifi software though... There anyway to get that software back? Anyone have the cabs? Just fyi, there's an AT&T Keyboard fix cab out there now, just doesn't map the OK button...
rkub said:
Just got my TP2 a few days ago and loaded the NRG Photon rom yesterday... Soo much faster than the AT&T rom... I did forget about the AT&T Wifi software though... There anyway to get that software back? Anyone have the cabs? Just fyi, there's an AT&T Keyboard fix cab out there now, just doesn't map the OK button...
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had to jump through some hoops to get it downloaded, I attached the cab in this post;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4748989&postcount=6
I have installed it, but haven't actually tried it out yet at a hotspot.
For you folks that installed the NRG rom: Did you find a keyboard .cab for the Tilt2 that is 100%?
The existing keyboard cab fixes 98% of the issue.
The two buttons that dont map correctly are
1) OK button on the keyboard
2) PTT buton (below the volume on the side)
Both can be fixed by using Keyboard Config controller (do a search). I've been able to remap the PPT button, just waiting on someone to explain what to map the OK button to.
So ya, its a 2-step process but it can be 100% correctly functioning with the NRG or any other custom rom
I will be getting Tilt 2 & selling in Dec 1st week
Anyone who Dont want to Pay Full price can buy from me for Cheaper
Cos I will be buying HD 2
If anyone Interested
rajuabju said:
The existing keyboard cab fixes 98% of the issue.
The two buttons that dont map correctly are
1) OK button on the keyboard
2) PTT buton (below the volume on the side)
Both can be fixed by using Keyboard Config controller (do a search). I've been able to remap the PPT button, just waiting on someone to explain what to map the OK button to.
So ya, its a 2-step process but it can be 100% correctly functioning with the NRG or any other custom rom
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I also used Keybaord Config to remap thoses buttons but I remapped ok to ctrl so I could do copy and paste.
areilly said:
had to jump through some hoops to get it downloaded, I attached the cab in this post;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4748989&postcount=6
I have installed it, but haven't actually tried it out yet at a hotspot.
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Thanks for the cab areilly, haven't been able to try it out yet, but will let you know if it works when I do...
ilordvader said:
I will be getting Tilt 2 & selling in Dec 1st week
Anyone who Dont want to Pay Full price can buy from me for Cheaper
Cos I will be buying HD 2
If anyone Interested
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How much cheaper?
rajuabju said:
The existing keyboard cab fixes 98% of the issue.
The two buttons that dont map correctly are
1) OK button on the keyboard
2) PTT buton (below the volume on the side)
Both can be fixed by using Keyboard Config controller (do a search). I've been able to remap the PPT button, just waiting on someone to explain what to map the OK button to.
So ya, its a 2-step process but it can be 100% correctly functioning with the NRG or any other custom rom
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I remember reading somewhere else that people were mapping the OK button to some command like "Go Back" which some felt was the closest approximation to the OK button. As for the PTT button, a lot of people (including myself on the stock ROM) have mapped to the camera.
pinoymutt said:
I remember reading somewhere else that people were mapping the OK button to some command like "Go Back" which some felt was the closest approximation to the OK button. As for the PTT button, a lot of people (including myself on the stock ROM) have mapped to the camera.
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I mapped my PTT to screen rotate.
I'm finding that even with the latest cab, you still have to remap your bottom row function shortcuts. However, the biggest bother is that on the unlock screen and certain other applications, the top row is still read as the default TP2 number row. Perhaps we're still missing some settings.
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I mapped my PTT to screen rotate.
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I did this myself at one point, but then had to do a hard reset. Now I don't have screen rotation as an option in the Settings -> Personal -> Buttons dialog, and I can't remember what I might have done to enable it. Help! (please)
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OK, either I'm blind or I did something, 'cause now the option is there.
i found a solution for the "ok" key..
you map the "ok" key first for anything on the Keyboard control/config program, update config, then uncheck the box and update again...
THEN, download AEB button Plus and install that, press add new key, press the ok key, and map that to "ok/close"... soft reset, and you're good to go, just dont mess with "ok" button on keyboard control program and you're good to go...
i also mapped long press on the "ok" key to open notes,
okay, folks, we're in business. a very kind soul named pyromosh has written software named Crud Scraper - automatic uninstaller. it does all the work for you. here's the link:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
ruxp1n said:
okay, folks, we're in business. a very kind soul named pyromosh has written software named Crud Scraper - automatic uninstaller. it does all the work for you. here's the link:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
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Yes Crud scraper works very good
here is the active link forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
and here is a page of all the Crapware and what it does how big and how to manaully remove it - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software