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I applied the WM6 ROM and lost a few functions

I got a warranty replacement for my 8525 yesterday and immediately applied WM6 from HTC's website. Before using the phone at all after applying WM6, I loaded all of my old apps and software onto it and then restored a backup from my old phone. The backup consisted of only Email and the Personal Database and nothing else - no program files, nothing at all from Windows, and no Registry. I restored using Sprite backup and the "ROM" setting and did not select "Restore Databases".
So after doing all that I started playing around with the phone and noticed a few things missing: the Recognize function of Notes (that converts handwriting into typed text) and MMS. Neither of them exist in any of the menus. When I try to send myself MMS from my computer nothing happens. When I go into Contacts and try to send MMS nothing happens. There is no MMS Folder.
Do these functions no longer exist in WM6? Should I use a different setting and restore again? Am I missing an exe or a dll or something? What are the names of the exe's for these items anyway?
Oh, and none of my email is showing (ironic to me since that was one of the few things I selected to be restored) but I am not too concerned about that.
Thanks.

If I want to start from scratch, how should I go about it? Should I do a hard-reset? Or can I reapply WM6? If I hard-reset, does it go all the way back the way I got the phone out of the box (with WM5)? Or would it only go all the way back to WM6?
Thanks.

MMS I believe you should set up again (use, say, "Network Wizard" for that).
And as long as you have the backup, do a hard-reset and check before restoring it.

So your backup was from WM5?
If thats the case then it probably wont work correctly. Espicially SPB backup.
When I first upgraded I had that problem, the underlying data structure had changed.
I ended up going back to WM5, downloading PIMBackup from this site, then reinstalling WM6 and getting my contacts back through that. That worked for me.
But as far as Sprite Backup I cant be sure.

To save messing around, it might be easier to your network wm6 upgrade instead of the HTC one. That way MMS should already be set up with the correct settings..

I would like to push this thread up, because I also want to know what happened to the Recognize function of Notes (that converts handwriting into typed text). A friend of mine has this function in his german mda III (wm5) but i am missing this on my german htc touch (wm6).
Is it possible to activate this function with a registry tweak or am I missing an *.exe or *.dll file ?

Is it possible to activate this function with a registry tweak or am I missing an *.exe or *.dll file ?
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Download "transcriber.cab" or variant. It was removed I suppose for extra space or some such..... That'll fix you up. Cheers...

ultramag69 said:
Download "transcriber.cab" or variant. It was removed I suppose for extra space or some such..... That'll fix you up. Cheers...
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thats not what I meant. Transcriber is built in and works great.
What I mean is the recognize function. You handwrite a note and save it.
Later you can open that note, go into option, klick on recognize and voila, the text is switched to typed text.
As I said my friend has this option in his older pda, I not.
What can I do to get this function again ?

Upgraded Opera Mini, t-zones key still points to old version

How do I tell the t-zones key to point to the new, upgraded Opera Mini 4.1 instead of the old 4.0 version?
I uninstalled the old version, and now when I press the t-zones button it gives me an error msg.
Thanks.

i think you have to open up the short_ie.lnk file and change it to 1 instead of 0 or something..

Checked that, didn't see anything related to Opera Mini.
Anyone else?

Checked that, didn't see anything pertaining to Opera Mini.
Anyone else?

jgro1976 said:
Checked that, didn't see anything pertaining to Opera Mini.
Anyone else?
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Yeah the short_IE file should look like this..
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
and after installing something else to jbed you have to change the -run s0_ to -run s1_ ....or 2,3..ect until you find the right number.. which i think is based on how many java apps you have installed or had previously installed.
you can check this thread for help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380504

Ok, I get it...what I'm having a hard time with is how to actually change the file. Every time I try to change and save it, it reverts back to the original entry.
Also, I've heard some people say that they cleaned up their appdata\javadb folder, but I don't know waht to delete or leave in there, and I don't wanna screw things up.
Sorry, kind of new to all this editing internal files, etc.

well i know you can either edit the thing on your computer by renaming it to a txt file then back to lnk and putting it back in the windows folder..
I think you should still be able to use somethign like vieka wordpad which is on surrealnetworks dash apps page to edit it on the phone itself..
If your having permission problems i think you might need to app unlock it.

is there an app that totally clean all the files that remove program left behind?

as we know on Windows PC, ADD/REMOVE programs tends to leave some registry files or some small junk files behind in the System, and we had to clean those up using some 3rd party software ( example: Your Uninstaller! 2008 )
ok so is there any software that works like that for WM? or for X1?
or is the Remove Program that comes from WM default pretty much un-install all the registry or junk files along without leaving it behind, so it's like never been installed.., because i hate to have some un-associated left overs files on my Phone even if it's just 1kb
thanks.

With the sktools you can 'really remove' apps installed on the X1. I only use this method and it feels really better than before

how does it work? it removes all the associated files along till a very "clean" uninstall?

When you click that you want to uninstall a program, the application shows you every reg-string and file that is connected to the programm. Then you can choose to delete those.

sounds like a kick ass app
thanks!

hmm, ok i need a bit of a help here
so there are a list of the types here..
which one do i install...
WM 2003(SE), WM5/WM6 Classic and Professional, (W)QVGA and (W)VGA zipped PC Install
WM 2003(SE) (W)VGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB
WM 2003(SE) (W)QVGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB
WM5/WM6 (W)VGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB
WM5/WM6 (W)QVGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB
also they have standard, lite..
what are their differences?
the only freeware is the SK Lite..

de Wolfe said:
With the sktools you can 'really remove' apps installed on the X1. I only use this method and it feels really better than before
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de wolfe... I have the SKTools and I have no idea what is the difference between standard uninstall and uninstall. What is the difference?

Standard uninstall is what it sais, the same thing windows does. The uninstall SKtools provides does the more thorough job.
You'll need "WM5/WM6 (W)VGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB" TweFoju.

ok thanks
and another thing
it's on trial and total of 6 entries only
do you know how to make it full version?
some sort of a serial number to activate it or something?
that would be so awesome

Come on, dude. The app costs around 10€. Good investment!

TweFoju said:
ok thanks
and another thing
it's on trial and total of 6 entries only
do you know how to make it full version?
some sort of a serial number to activate it or something?
that would be so awesome
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Yes, buy it! You may not ask for cracks, keygens or other illegal software here.

For your info, if you go to the SKKV site, they are currently offering 50% off their products including SKTOOLS.
http://skkvsoftware.com/?m_bnews.html
I have no affliation, other than loving a bargain

alright, i decided to purchase it
so far so good
i only have a couple of newb questions left ( sorry, im not very advanced with these kind of stuffs )
all i want to know is, which of the category is safe to perform? at least for a beginner user like me that will not know what to do if something gone wrong
i mean like, there is a "Advanced Clean" that im not sure what it will delete
so far, i only used "Invalid Registry Entries", "Temporary and Junk Files", "Temporary amd Cache Folders" and of course the "Clean!"
i kinda wanna use the "Invalid Registry Values" and "Advanced Clean", but i dont know what will they delete..
i fear those 2 might delete some of the important files because the list that came out was like the Panel stuffs and all
and also i wanted to check the "Bad/Old Uninstall Info" part
but not sure what will it delete..
oh yeah and 1 more thing.. when on the "Installed Programs"
i saw some of the software that are pre-installed by SE have some 1 to 3 missing registry that is written in a red text.. is that some problem or it' just like that from the factory settings?
or is it better for me to re-install those particular software that are missing some files / registry ?
thanks again.. sorry if these are all silly questions

all i want to know is, which of the category is safe to perform? at least for a beginner user like me that will not know what to do if something gone wrong
Class I Unsafe:
Invalid Registry Entries
Invalid Registry Values
Notifications Queue
[These are dangerous because on some Xperia's they will probably delete the registry settings for Panel Manager ... they always delete my panel manager registry settings and make my panel manager not work]
[Notifications Queue ... I am not sure how unsafe it is to mess with it, but I think messing with it will make scheduled programs not work]
Class II Unsafe:
Registry Explorer
[it's not dangerous if you follow directions from pros or know exactly what you are doing]
Class III Unsafe:
Processes
Services
[if you terminate a process when it is doing something, you might cause data corruption...i terminated my media panel and it totally destroyed my library and prevented from updating the MP3, Pics, and Videos]
[services can be reverted back to original settings, unlike deleting invalid registries]
i mean like, there is a "Advanced Clean" that im not sure what it will delete
Advanced clean is absolutely safe
so far, i only used "Invalid Registry Entries", "Temporary and Junk Files", "Temporary amd Cache Folders" and of course the "Clean!"
When you deleting invalid registry entries, make sure you know deleting that entry actually is the right thing to do. If you have no idea what it does then don't delete it....
You can undo it right now by tapping on SKTools Backup
i kinda wanna use the "Invalid Registry Values" and "Advanced Clean", but i dont know what will they delete..
Advance clean is totally safe, and invalid registry values are not at all
and also i wanted to check the "Bad/Old Uninstall Info" part
Safe
i saw some of the software that are pre-installed by SE have some 1 to 3 missing registry that is written in a red text.. is that some problem or it' just like that from the factory settings?
It's missing values and you wouldn't know why, just ignore it if you're program works. I have alot of these and I have no problem

thanks for that man!! but how do we know if the registry is the panel one? i found the registrybackup folder on "My Documents"
well so far, the registry cleaner only delete 14 registry files... and i have no idea what registry file it belongs to
if only i could rep, i would

Well I try to look up for the date in which I deleted the registry.

um? sorry i dont get your meaning
what does the deletion date has anything to do ?
what i meant is that, i deleted some registry
but how do i know if which registry belong to which app?
because they are just all written in some numbers like {AIU123456} so on and on

TweFoju said:
um? sorry i dont get your meaning
what does the deletion date has anything to do ?
what i meant is that, i deleted some registry
but how do i know if which registry belong to which app?
because they are just all written in some numbers like {AIU123456} so on and on
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{AIU123456} means that the registry key is called {AIU123456}. I could be wrong. Try opening \my documents\registrybkup and copy a .rgb file into the PC and see if you can view it as a notepad.

ClearTemp (Pocket PC) 1.2.2
Download this: ClearTemp (Pocket PC) 1.2.2
works great

Ughhhhh the SMS counter

Is there any way for the SMS counter to go back to 0 when viewing several messages from one sender? Other wise I have to keep going back and opening for the counter to tick down.
On my 6800 I upgraded to the last DCD rom and it did the same. Only for that reason did I go back to his previous rom. This drives me nuts. The worst part is I recieved 15 angry texts from my ex wife. Who the heck wants to open that up 15 times for it to clear?

just go to the threaded messages & use the arrow keys to go select each & every one of them & it'll set the counter right. hope that makes sense.

I found a better fix. This adds "Mark all messages read"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379265

Is there still not a cab/real fix for this? I know that it is a problem with the version of WM that it shipped with but this is kind of ridiculous and Sprint/Whoever can't expect us to deal with this or install a cab that "makes it easier"
All other version of WM that i've ever used have never had this problem before and it is quite annoying if you stay in a text message for a while and then go out and have to click through 100 messages... Yes I've already installed the cab that adds "Mark all as read" but its still annoying.
Cheers

View attachment htmlnote.zip
Download install that DLL into your windows and your all set. This is a well known issue with the DLL not letting go of the message properly. Fix thanks to Yay4juggs

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Download install that DLL into your windows and your all set. This is a well known issue with the DLL not letting go of the message properly. Fix thanks to Yay4juggs
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Downloaded and copied over to /Windows folder.
Works great!
Thanks a bunch for linking the file and thank you to Yay4juggs for fixing this.
One less thing about the TP2 that is annoying... Damn you stock sprint manilla icons and inability to use the FM radio yet!
Cheers

htmlnote.dll
My TP2 says it cannot copy over the file.

rjmjr69 said:
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Download install that DLL into your windows and your all set. This is a well known issue with the DLL not letting go of the message properly. Fix thanks to Yay4juggs
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thanks for the link...I never know of this issue until I got my tp2. I had 6 & 6.1 on my wing & never encountered the problem. 2 late to really test out iwth my friends.

otterit said:
My TP2 says it cannot copy over the file.
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try using total commander to copy over.

For those that backup on a regular using sprite etc u have to add "htmlnote.dll" & "HTMLNOTE.DLL" to the exclude list other wise the backup will fail.

pimppoet said:
For those that backup on a regular using sprite etc u have to add "htmlnote.dll" & "HTMLNOTE.DLL" to the exclude list other wise the backup will fail.
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I'm using Sprite Backup 6.5 and it works just fine without adding it to the exclusion list.

can someone please tell me what i need and what to do to install this!
I have this problem almost everytime I get a text. Its sooooo annoying!!

come on, all I need to do is install it. I copy it over to my tp2 and it doesn't show up. I installed total commander like someone said but all that did was let me see it. It has an error when I click on it.

You need to move the file and replace the old one, not try to open it. Try deleting the old one and then moving the new one in its place.

Delete the old what? And move it where? And once it's moved do I have to install something or does it just fix it by being there?

I'm not trying to be a jerk but if you read all the posts in this forum topic you would know what to do. I'll write out instructions for you however.
1. First, download this DLL
HTML NOTE DLL
2. Extract the file onto your desktop and then transfer it over to your phone via activesync, SD card, bluetooth, etc.
3. Wherever the file was copied to (be in in the root folder of the storage card or any other place, fire up Total Commander/Resco File Explorer and copy/move the "htmlnote.dll" over to /Windows folder. which is in the root folder of 'My Device'
*You will know that you are copying/moving it to the right location if you get a message stating that you would be overwriting the current file. If you do NOT get this message than you are either putting the modified "htmlnote.dll" in the wrong spot or your already deleted it from /Windows.
If you are still having further issues, please PM me and we will work this out.
Cheers

thank you, when I moved it over I didn't get a overwrite message but eversince I put that file in there I haven't had the problem. Slowly my phone is becoming more useable and less annoying

Thank you for the information, I have found this particular bug to be exceedingly annoying. I followed all the given instructions, but when i try to copy/move the file from my storage card, and get prompted to overwrite the existing file, Total Commander returns an error 'Cannot copy or move file!'
I had already tried this a few times, without any issue, and then soft reset my Sprint TP2. Since i still had the single unread sms bubble, i tried it again and got the error above.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
UPDATE:
I renamed the original to '000original' and was able to copy over the new .dll. However, after a soft reset, the problem still exists.

OK, found this thread and installed the cab. Worked like a charm...
Looks like i can't post links yet, so just search for FixUnreadCount.zip and that does the trick.

FINALLY
Thanks you for finding this .. ive spent the last week searching through files on my tp2 trying to find the right one .

Deleting from the Program list

I have used Settings>System>Remove Programs to remove a game but it did not totally remove everything and the program name still exists in the program list displayed in the Remove Programs app. Can I access the list and manually delete it?

Think you need to navigate to WINDOWS->START MENU->PROGRAMS there should be a bunch on .lnk files those lnk files drive the program list

nope, that doesn't do it
The .lnk files seem to be shortcuts to the main programs. The program I'm trying to delete from the Program list that appears in the Remove Programs app doesn't even have a shortcut there. Meaning that this Program list must be located somewhere else. Does anyone know where?

What happens when you try to uninstall it again?

I get a message that reads "...was not completely removed. Do you wish to remove it from the list of installed programs?" If I say "Yes", it still does not remove it.

you may want to give the program a try:
Tms Uninstaller: Will allow you to delete programs that don't show up in the normal remove programs. Direct download in link. (freeware) ~ Thanks Senax
I stumbled across that the other day while trolling for apps n tweaks...you can find the info and cab file here in the 1st post of " Software worth installing on the TP2 *Continuously Updated, links in thread* [Nov 25] " Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973
I havent used the program...i just remembered seeing it and thought mabe it could help ya...
Peace...

Thanks
Thanks. That program did it. Nice little app for removing programs. It said it had to delete something from the Registry. Maybe the Program list is there somehow??

No. It's back!
Spoke too soon. That app seemed to remove the program from the list but it's reappeared! Can anyone help?

lmao...that sucks...attempt to reinstall it then delete it...

You've got company
I too am dealing w/this issue. I've even resorted to deleting everything related in the registry to no avail! Now I cannot find the cab for DHR CommMgrPro. I was going to try to installing & uninstalling again. POOP!!