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I read many threads in the forum regarding video on the HD and after hours spent trailing through a post which is now locked I settled on SUPER encoding to flash FLV files... only problem is if I feed it a 1.4gb H264 file (which the HD cant play) it ends up at 2.6Gb I still run the stock SD card 8Gb.
Am I missing a setting? I really wanna sort the video out on my HD! but would like the movies to stay similar size to the original rip....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good
pureheart said:
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Yep treid that one too... the files always end up waaaaay bigger than the orginal... I tried a 4Gb BRrip with that and it came out almost the size of the flash card....
Then you selected the wrong bitrate.
Assuming your movie is 90 minutes long, then using the "HD" setting bitrate of 750kbit/s your movie will be (750*60*90)/8/1024 = 494 MB.
What you are stating is not possible, unless your movie is 10 hours long or you manually entered an insanely high bitrate, such as 7500kbit/s, which is completely useless and which the Touch HD can not handle anyway.
The tool is coded for simplicity. If you don't understand what anything does, then you just add the files, select the output dir and press "start". Experimenting around by setting random options which you do not fully understand obviously will result in spectacular failure most of the time. So I recommend you to try it again. If it doesn't work, then let me know and I will fix it.
All this said, if you rather not use my GUI, then you can get an acceptable result with SUPER by using iPhone profile. The quality will be worse, seeking might be broken and it might slow down sometimes, but other than that, it should work.
I used a Blue Ray rip.... 4.5Gig..... it ended up at almost 6Gig....
I used the HD GUI you made because it was so easy.... just remoting into my server to see how the next one I'm trying is getting on.....
Have you tried using WinFF ~ http://winff.org/html/
I used to use SUPER but changed to WinFF because:-
1. It is quicker.
2. File sizes are smaller.
3. It is very easy to use.
4. It supports a number of devices including Mobile Phones, iPod etc.
Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
Geeba said:
Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
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What settings on WinFF did you use to encode the video?
Ahhh... not got round to using that one yet... I was using the HD GUI made by projection, 4.5gb Blue ray rip source, 800x480 output.
Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
Geeba said:
Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
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I had no idea there was one? Is it installed from the factory? I cant seem to find it?
atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
another option to watch Movies "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)"
You can install "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)" and play those .avi movies (DivX, Xvid, etc) without converting. You can download here: http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
It works fine for me... I'm using 8Gb microSD...
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atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
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Where do I find the HTC player?
I've just tried DivX player... its not really as good as Core on mine for some reason... ?
Would really appreciate a pointer on GPU accelerated player
I've treid M$ media player... wont play it... core player not enough grunt and the HTC player people speak of... I cant find? searched all of my HD programs..
Dude, just skim along the TF3D menu to Photos and Videos.
If your video's in the default album it will appear as a thumbnail here if it isn't just use the Album button to browse to it.
Basically the HTC player they're on about i launched when you click on a thumbnail in the TF3D Photo's and Video's screen (or browse to an album location).
Yup - it was there all the time
Thanks mate... I understand now...
I guess MP4 isnt supported.... my movies arent there...
Using the information provided in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500574
I've made some benchmarks using Coreplayer, and what a surprise when I saw that this wasn't just a placebo effect:
On my Blackstone, used some divx encoded movie (container is avi, not mp4, so not playable with wmp), and a movie acquired with the camera, so .mp4.
I did a benchmark and the result is the following:
Methods
HTC Touch HD, latest Dutty's V3 rom, freshly flashed.
No Additional program installed.
Coreplayer 1.3.0 build 6213
1st movie is a DVDrip, avi, xvid.
2nd movie has been acquired with the HD's camera, so it's MP4.
Results are presented as following:AVI movie / MP4 Movie / MP4 Video paused in WMP in backgroundDriver QTV117 % / 135% / without wmp running a mp4 vid.
115 % / 197% / with wmp runninga mp4 vid.Driver DirectDraw92 % / 142% / without wmp running a mp4 vid.
86 % / 186% / with wmp runninga mp4 vid.
Analysis:
The avi movie suffers from the additional memory used by WMP in the background, and there is no improvement.
The MP4 movie benchmark improves dramatically when a MP4 vid is paused in the background with WMP.
QTv still provides better results than DirectDraw.
Conclusion
There is some kind of acceleration with WMP in the background, but only with MP4 movies !
You may notice that it doesn't seem to be directdraw dependant. Neet, I love more confusion.
I want to thank zerocool159 for this nice finding.
Edit: doesn't seem to work with all the MP4 !Will try to find the right settings.
Impressive, I want to try it first
It's not working for me, but I think I must have missed something because my benchmarking gives 43%, it's the first time I try to play a movie on my HD.
Well, you need several things, and I don't know if it's related to the Rom version I use.
Take a quick movie of whatever with your camera. Use Windows media player to play it. Put it in pause.
Without closing WMP, launch Coreplayer (the latest version I assume), and play a .MP4 movie. You can convert almost anything with the movie encoder GUI found on here.
Bump. No one interested ? Really ?
I am very interested, this is in fact very funny. Since there is special dll - qtv-mp4-"something" . Actually this is very strange. I first thought that WMP is somehow modified to use acceleration, than i have been told I am wrong. Later, there were some qtv dll´s found, as mentioned before one especially for mp4, so this acceleration is abviously not coused JUST by directdraw support of WMP. Anyway, I hope that CP will release CP 2.0 sooon. Also, if it it true, than Topaz drivers can boost video playback.
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Well, you need several things, and I don't know if it's related to the Rom version I use.
Take a quick movie of whatever with your camera. Use Windows media player to play it. Put it in pause.
Without closing WMP, launch Coreplayer (the latest version I assume), and play a .MP4 movie. You can convert almost anything with the movie encoder GUI found on here.
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That's exactly what I did, nothing special happened, with or without wmp running, i got between 40 and 43%... the divx was encoded using an encoder found on this forum ^^
Ok, try with a video you've recorded with your HD's camera. I think there's something really weird going on. I've tried with a video compressed with badaboom and it doesn't work either.
I think the file format is very specific. Will ty to see if I can find the settings used by the camera to generate those files.
When I benchmark a camera video, I get 196%, and wmp still doesn't change anything...
There is definitely something weird going on, here's what I've posted in Manilla 2d speed boost thread:
This might be interesting to some people with more knowledge.
Tried this just now and it did make things run faster and smoother however, I noticed that on my homescreen the background I'm using had several white spots dotted about all over the screen (several hundred in fact) - as though the image had suffered from it's compression.
So, thinking I'd have to restart the device I just closed everything to first make sure I didn't have too many things running and noticed when closing HTC's Album the spots disappeared in front of my eyes!!
Tried it again with JUST Album running and the same thing happened.
Don't know if it will give anyone any clue as to what's going on but I'll try and grab some pictures if you think it would help
BTW: using the stock rom from Orange v1.19
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Just saw that also, really weird.
Using MyMobiler can't get a proper picture of the white dots, but they are still there.
Will try with pocket screen.
Edit : WEIRD: I can see them but impossible to capture them !
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i can confirm the graphical artefact displaying photos in the touchflo3d thumbview (white, blue, green smears and spots) while wmp is paused on a mp4 thingie...
having the picture thumbs scrolling is quite revealing : the dots on the pictures are part of the paused video !
theory : wmp loads some qualcomm dll for mp4 playback. said dll then does some stuff of its own that turns 2d overlay/framebuffering hw acceleration on.
meanwhile manila is doing the same thing througth some htc dll.
both apps access the framebuffer through 2d hardware, hilarity ensues !
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i can confirm the graphical artefact displaying photos in the touchflo3d thumbview (white, blue, green smears and spots) while wmp is paused on a mp4 thingie...
having the picture thumbs scrolling is quite revealing : the dots on the pictures are part of the paused video !
theory : wmp loads some qualcomm dll for mp4 playback. said dll then does some stuff of its own that turns 2d overlay/framebuffering hw acceleration on.
meanwhile manila is doing the same thing througth some htc dll.
both apps access the framebuffer through 2d hardware, hilarity ensues !
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Jup, I have encountered the same effect on my Laptop/PC with certain programs with video on pause, a application video overlay boxing match, so to speak...
It really isn't working for me, when I start playing the camera movie on wmp, and then i pause it and i start playing another camera video on coreplayer, wmp won't be showing the video anymore, i mean that when i get back to wmp and press play, i have sound but not picture... So maybe am I doing something wrong?
I found this branch in registry... maybe help?! I don`t know what is this...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DirectX\DirectShow\Video Renderer]
"KeyIndex"=hex:fd,00,00,00
"KeyColor"=hex:09,09,09,00
"MaxBackBuffers"=dword:00000001
"UseOverlayStretch"=dword:00000001
"UseScanLine"=dword:00000000
"SurfaceTypes"=dword:000000ff
no updates?
That's what I'm wondering...
Guys, the update is the app developed by Chainfire called GfxBoost a while ago, what's stated in this thread was preliminary observations that finaly lead to GfxBoost...
Mods you can lock this thread I think.
hello everybody,
I'd try this solution on my TP2 and it's work perfectly.
Without WMP i have 70% of speed
with it grow to 115 %.
Thank you for this solution.
Ps: I'd just start wmp with a mp3
I modify my post because this solution had work only one time.
I'd try to test with/without wmp but the speed stay at 70%, mystery, mystery !!
converted some films to MP4 and on core player they are very stuttery
res 720 x 480
what are the best set up settings people are using for core player
thanks in advance
i play movies with CorePlayer without converting them.
I just copy paste my 700Mb AVI/DivX (1h30 min) movie onto my memory card, and it plays perfectly : smooth playback, and clear picture.
So need to convert anything.
I use the basic settings from Coreplayer... Works out of the box !
Even with my old Kaiser, it was playing well after some tweaking.
+1 same here...no conversion needed. I play a 1 1/2 hours avi movie with coreplayer with the default setting directly from my microSD 16GB with no problem. Smooth running too. Btw, this is my first time watch a full movie on my TP2, usually i only watch a small clip/trailer movie.
Very impression performance too.
Hunt down the pocketnow.com TP2 review. In one of their videos in the review, they do some benchmarking and come up with their ideal resolution and bitrate. It may not be final for you, but it's bound to be useful info.
use built in player for mp4 format! it uses the hardware effectively! i dont think coreplayer can utilize the hardware optimally nevertheless it is a good video player for many formats.
sorry if this is the wrong place to post but i am a noob, is there a peice of software out there that can play all types of video on the hermes, if so were can i download it
Coreplayer or tmpc... Use search to find...
hey ... core player is what ur looking for. it can play any type of media without converting it .. eats some resources but its very worth it. it also has streaming support and everything. just google search it and ur there. hope this helps
thx so i can now watch anytype of video format and i dont have to convert it,but are all media file types the same size
If you are playing what I think you might be playing then even with Coreplayer the Hermes will not smoothly play standard definition stuff, i.e average 2.35 widescreen DVDRip done at 640*272 with Xvid around 1000kbps (Mgeg4-ASP). Don't even think about x264 films. (Mpeg4-AVC)
The Hermes screen is 320*240 so you will have to convert it.
what are the major differences between The Core Pocket Media Player(TCPMP) & core player,i know one is free & one is paid bt whts the major difference?
Supposedly CorePlayer has more features like youtube integration (useless IMO when we have a youtube app) and supports more file types.
For my purposes I have found that TCPMP is best because it plays anything I need it to play (flv's for the most part) and there's a beautiful fully working WVGA skin for it, while Coreplayer is stuck on QVGA graphics unless you find a WVGA skin that acutally works, which I really haven't. There's a GTX skin that kind of works.
But for flat functionality, CorePlayer is better because it has support for more file types. What those types are exactly I couldn't tell you because I haven't ran into one yet that TCPMP won't play.
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Supposedly CorePlayer has more features like youtube integration (useless IMO when we have a youtube app) and supports more file types.
For my purposes I have found that TCPMP is best because it plays anything I need it to play (flv's for the most part) and there's a beautiful fully working WVGA skin for it, while Coreplayer is stuck on QVGA graphics unless you find a WVGA skin that acutally works, which I really haven't. There's a GTX skin that kind of works.
But for flat functionality, CorePlayer is better because it has support for more file types. What those types are exactly I couldn't tell you because I haven't ran into one yet that TCPMP won't play.
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but sir whn i play flv on tcpmp it doesnt work good,i mean thesound playes well bt the video goes on very slow
Core Player youtube looks sharper (if you set that up) than the regular player.
I like Core Player for must things but some higher quality files may need Windows Media player or HTC player since they use the hardware playback.
I have a nice Transformers file for example that Core player can barely play skipping all the time.
I still use it very often.
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but sir whn i play flv on tcpmp it doesnt work good,i mean thesound playes well bt the video goes on very slow
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I have not experienced this but I supposed it depends on quality of the video, size, frame rate, etc... Usually I download videos from youtube to play with TCPMP and they work to perfection.
For a lot of WMV files, I found coreplayer to be faster. When drag across progress bar, the seek speed is much faster.
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I have not experienced this but I supposed it depends on quality of the video, size, frame rate, etc... Usually I download videos from youtube to play with TCPMP and they work to perfection.
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from whr do u download the youtube videos sir? cz i download thm on pc & thn transfer it on my device(touch pro2) bt it looks sluggish
shaolin95 said:
Core Player youtube looks sharper (if you set that up) than the regular player.
I like Core Player for must things but some higher quality files may need Windows Media player or HTC player since they use the hardware playback.
I have a nice Transformers file for example that Core player can barely play skipping all the time.
I still use it very often.
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turning off sense helps the playback quality of higher quality videos in coreplayer.
try chaniging buffer speed
the straming that start with mms can't be played for core player?
yep,for me Core player is better
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yep,for me Core player is better
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can you open mp3 straming ? http://200.42.92.36/Mitre.mp3
thanks