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Need to send Vario II back to T-Mobile

Hi Guys,
I need to send my vario ii back to tmobile (for the 5th time now ) but as ive got JJ's Black 2.5 on it, i dont suspect they are going to be very happy and void my warrenty.
Is there a way to put it back to exactly how it was when it came out the factory (or good enough so they cant really tell) for me to get a replacement?
Thanks
Jas

- If u have radio bootloader >=0108, you can put everything back except the radio (when you flash a radio with 0106 on it, you'll get a NoGSM error).
- If u have raido bootloader <=0107 you can put everything back.

is that the IPL or the SPL?
Thanks for your help

jaso2005 said:
is that the IPL or the SPL?
Thanks for your help
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Read the Wiki...... it is the radio bootloader (so not the IPL or SPL....)
Have fun,
HJ

Yer looks like im gonna have fun, i only found 1 T-Mobile factory rom which was the hungry one. Does anyone know of another one as id like a UK one if poss, i know the hungry one is WWE but would just prefer a UK one.
Thanks again for your help guys

The same question was asked here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302412&highlight=t-mobile
Check out the last post... it might be what your after

cheer fella will give it a try later on.
Jas

pof said:
- If u have radio bootloader >=0108, you can put everything back except the radio (when you flash a radio with 0106 on it, you'll get a NoGSM error).
- If u have raido bootloader <=0107 you can put everything back.
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Are these installed when new radios are flashed?
Radio 1.40.30.00
or
Radio 1.41.00.10
Thanks

yes, both have 0108.

So what's the latest+best radio for TMOB UK, which also allows the device to be restored to its original state? I want to upgrade but I still have warranty left! I gather the 1.05 radio it shipped with is not the best.

advice needed, NOT a support issue.

I just bought a TyTN (Herm 200) and I am so excited about putting WM6 on it. I have the HK WWE official release just sitting here on my desktop.
But:
HTC is going to make a Europe edition available soon. It might even have Mobile Office 2007 on it from scratch.
I am unsure if I can later update my TyTN to the European version if i put the HK version on now. What kind of problems might I run into?
My device comes with Swedish WM5, I imagine I can update it to WWE, but what about back to swedish later on, if I should want to do that?
If it was you, would you go ahead with the update to HK and if possible switch to European version later?

Yes I would. You can always switch later - you may need to CID unlock later or use a modified RUU, but you WILL be able to change later.
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well, I am a bit hesitant to CID unlock my device since it is brand new and still under warranty. thanks for the heads up.
Will I even be able to put the HK WWE on my device without CID unlocking it?

Actually, you will probably not have to CID unlock the device at all. Oli built a custom RUU that bypasses the CID check without CID unlocking. I was juct throwing that in as a disclaimer since I have not tried it. I am SURE that it works though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298737&highlight=custom+ruu

I can't stress this enough - put olipro 2.10 on it - this is reversible to the best of my knowledge (see vanx's guide in my sig) and this means that it doesn't need CID unlocking (thr RUU_Wrapper is not the bit that does the CID checking)
In any case, I don't very much whether or not, in the case of a warranty claim, anyone would spot the CID unlock or the SPL update (but still don't take my word for it
I've upgraded someone else's phone for them and I put olipro on which was a good job as it got interupted by his daughter pulling the cable out and it saved it from being a brick...
HTH,
Smiffy.
BTW, the cooked ROMs are so much better than the official dopod ROM - my preference is black satin or sleuth's but they're all better than the official one

OK thanks! Great info!

How to EXACTLY undo a wm6 upgrade?

Hi Everybody
My hermes is the following:
Vodafone 1605 ITA WM5
ROM: 2.07.165.1 (02/13/07)
Radio: 1.32.00.00
I don't know If I'm going to tryu the wm6 update, but, before even thinking about it, I want to make sure that I can restore it back to what it was in the beginning, in case anything goes wrong...
How can I save my Rom, radio and everything OR where can I find my exact rom and all the necessary stuff to revert it back?
I noticed a guide for wm5 downgrade, but that wolud probably only bring back wm5 in some form, and not MY wm5 and everything that comes with it...
I hope you understood what I mean
Is that even possible?
Thanks in advance

Happily, it's easy mate.
Download your original rom from the archive so you've got it to reinstall from. (Check your current versions of rom, radio, etc. to make sure it's the right one.)
When you want to downgrade, just plug in your phone and run the downloaded exe. It'll take LOADS longer for the 'old' rom to install than your upgrade to wm6 did. This is mainly because the 'old' (original) rom you download will install spl, ext rom, os, plash 1 + 2 and radio all at once.
Thats the easy way.
You could extract just the bits of the original you need to save time, but there are instructions in threads, wiki and downloads for that so I won't repeat it all here. It's Dutty's Good NBH Tool you'll be using (start your search with that if you want to go down that road).

Thanks for the quick reply
By "archive" do you mean this?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
So I guess my rom should be this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298541
It also matches my ROM and Radio version.
There's just one thing I don't understand... I looked at the WM6 guides on mrvanx.org, which show many many steps. Are you saying that I could just grab the latest original HTC exe update and launch it and it would update everything? And still only launch another exe to revert to the old stuff?
Then why do people take the risk and flash all the components separately? Just to use homemade roms?
Thanks

No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.

http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
all your questions answered here!

chunkymonkey said:
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
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Ok that wes pretty clear
Let me just see if I got it right.
To go WM6:
- Upgrade CID to an unlocked version
- Either
1. Use HTC official exe upgrade, which updates ROM, ExtROM and Radio
or
2. Update Radio first and then ROM+ExtROM with a custom version
To revert to Vodafone WM5:
It's not assured that my radio can be safely downgraded (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27), so:
- Use Dutty's tool to extract my Vodafone ROM+ExtROM (no Radio) from the exe
- Downgrade SPL (not mandatory)
- Flash Vodafone ROM+ExtROM
Kinda?...

Yep, kinda!
But if you're planning to upgrade to WM6 with the correct VODAFONE release for your device you do not need to CID unlock your device and all that crap!
Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you!
Here an example:
Lets say you have an HTC Hermes from Vodafone UK with WM5 on there!
If Vodafone UK provides you an WM6 upgrade on their site (or if you find it in the 'archive' here in the Wiki then you do not have to CID unlock but you can run the upgrade without doing anything more than downloading the ROM and running it.
After you upgraded with the Vodafone UK WM6 you can 'downgrade' again with the Vodafone UK WM5 without any problems - even here a CID unlock is not necessary! Both ROMs contain the same CID code because of they are from the same provider.
A CID unlock is only necessary if you are planning to flash your device with ROMs which are not from your network provider, as example you want to flash a Hermes ROM from O2 UK to your Vodafone UK device. O2 UK is a different network provider and has a different CID code. Therefore your phone would refuse the upgrade and give you an error message WRONG VENDER ID!
CID unlock will trick your phone and it just does not care anymore about the VENDER ID (CID code) submitted by the ROM you're trying to flash!
The best way for you to play around with that stuff for a while might be to use SOFT_SSPL.exe to temporarely 'CID unlock' your phone. If you think that you really need it permanently CID unlocked because of you're going to flash it a lot then download the Hermes_Unlocker_3a which will do the job for you!
Please keep in mind that you will lose all data in your device when flashing!

Thanks again, and no, you are not confusing me
In fact, the only reason why I skipped that solution is because there's no official WM6 upgrade from Vodafone IT
Actually I like that SOFT_SSPL.exe thingy... Does it mean that my CID is unlocked just for the time of flashing or what?
And... it seems that you talk about CID and SPL like if they were the same thing... what's the difference?
Thx

Yes.
You will have to copy the soft.sspl.exe to your pda and run it from there. Just have your stuff ready for flashing before doing so.
The soft_sspl.exe is not writing anything to your ppc permanently. After flashing it is gone.
Please read the UPGRADING FOR BEGINNERS section in the Wiki carefully, even about bootloaders and all that crap before starting to flash!
TAKEN FROM THE HERMES WIKTIONARY in the Wiki section:
CID
The CID (Carrier ID) of the device is a setting which determines which carrier ROMs should be allowed to run on the device, a table of valid CIDs can be found in the wiki pages. All bootloaders (apart from HardSPL and SSPL) will only allow a ROM with the correct CID to be flashed onto the device. A device which has been CID unlocked will have 'SuperCID' which allows ANY ROM to be loaded onto the device, SuperCID also unlocks the Ext_ROM and allows it to be mounted.
SPL
See Bootloader.
SSPL
SSPL is a modified bootloader (by Des) which is loaded into RAM when run, this allows us to overwrite any aspect of the ROM, Radio or Bootloader far easier than using mtty. See the official thread for more info.

Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)

chunkymonkey said:
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
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Thanks for this really helpful advice!
I'll try to do some research on this option before doing anything, just to make sure that I know all the options before taking a definite road...
I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.

If all radio functions seem good and reliable you could leave the radio upgrade.
On a 'new radio version' thread try to find any references from a user from your own country, region within that country and provider as regards any radio versions. each new one is simply the most recent that a provider somewhere has brought out. the latest version number by no means that any given phone on X provider in X region of X country will be improved. It could easily be worsened.
Another way to do it, and very long-winded, is to flash the latest radio and, if dissatisfied, go backward thorugh the versions till you get it performing satisfactorily.
If you're happy wwith your radio performance don't change it tbh. Just my opinion on that, some people may differ.

Gatz said:
... I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
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HardSPL will be permanently written (hard-coded) to your phone! This can be a problem if you have to mail in your phone for service! You would lose your warranty!
SSPL is just temporary for the moment. It executes from the RAM until the flash job is finished. Afterwards it is gone!
BTW: I made some experiments on my 8525:
It was not very difficult to 'undo' HardSPL! I simply took my original shipped ROM image file (nbh) and flashed it entirely with CustomRUU - afterwards HardSPL was gone.
If I ever get a new device I will use SSPL only. All you have to do, is, to copy it to your SD card and run it when you want to flash your device. That makes it only 1 more step compared to having your phone HardSPLed ...

Mmm, considering both your answers, I might go for SSPL, at least for the first time.
I thought that the official HTC update contained also a new radio version, so there should be no difference between carriers... that's a point that confuses me a bit.
I mean, are there HTC radios as opposed to Vodafone radios and so on?

Help with warranty hard gpl

My hermes has stiff keys that dont react well to pressing also the screen started flickering.
Im still under warranty with Tmobile UK but all the servicing is done by HTC Europe.
Now heres the crunch ive changed the Hard SPL on the device and unlocked it and am running schaps firmware so my question is.
A will any of the above affect my warranty i know they say it will but im interested to know of anyone whos actually tried it.
B if it does is there a solution of returning it to its virgin state.
Thanks for reading

mmr said:
My hermes has stiff keys that dont react well to pressing also the screen started flickering.
Im still under warranty with Tmobile UK but all the servicing is done by HTC Europe.
Now heres the crunch ive changed the Hard SPL on the device and unlocked it and am running schaps firmware so my question is.
A will any of the above affect my warranty i know they say it will but im interested to know of anyone whos actually tried it.
B if it does is there a solution of returning it to its virgin state.
Thanks for reading
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downgrade back to the stock SPL:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27

thanks but now ive noticed that my cid is supercid do they check this at htc europe and if they do can it be restored to its original setting

mmr said:
thanks but now ive noticed that my cid is supercid do they check this at htc europe and if they do can it be restored to its original setting
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Same question here... The softkeys on the keyboard won't work any longer and I downgraded everything but made it a supercid D:

hey, dont know if its relevant, but i sent my MDA compact II that was superCID'd and my old imate sp3i that was also supercid'd and i didnt get any issues with it. both were repaired under warranty. cant say for definite, just my 2c

I downgraded a bit differently...
Had a screen problem and soft-key failures. I was concerned about the warranty issue as well. Looked at the suggested website for downgrading and thought it might be easier/better to downgrade to the HTC official WM6. It was a breeze and successful.
-T

Please Really Need Help for Flashig / Upgrading

Hi!
I am totally new to HTC Diamond. I got my set from England (Orange). It was locked. I was able to unlock it with the free solution available. Ok. Now the problem is I heard about TouchFLO but it I can't seem to activate. What can be the reason and what can I do?
Second, mine says it has :
ROM Version: 1.37.405.1 WWE
Radio Version: 1.20.OliNex
IS it ok. Or can I get a new more better version. Whats with radio version? Please guide me what can I do? I right now have no idea. I tried the tutorials as well but I am confused.

thats not the radio version, thats the SPL (Service Provider Lock).
and its a Hard SPL, which i presume you flashed to 'unlock' it.
the Hard SPL lets you flash a different ROM (but voids your warranty) it doesnt SIM unlock it tho.
TF3D (Touch Flo 3D) should run automatically when the phone is started, if it doesnt, go to Start> Settings> Personal tab> Today> Items tab and make sure "TouchFLO 3D" is checked.

Old ROM
thornofcarrion said:
Hi!
I am totally new to HTC Diamond. I got my set from England (Orange). It was locked. I was able to unlock it with the free solution available. Ok. Now the problem is I heard about TouchFLO but it I can't seem to activate. What can be the reason and what can I do?
Second, mine says it has :
ROM Version: 1.37.405.1 WWE
Radio Version: 1.20.OliNex
IS it ok. Or can I get a new more better version. Whats with radio version? Please guide me what can I do? I right now have no idea. I tried the tutorials as well but I am confused.
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The ROM version you're showing here is really old (as ROM's go!). You can get a link to the latest Orange ROM (v1.93) here, or flash one of the superb cooked ROM's in this forum

grahamkdt said:
The ROM version you're showing here is really old (as ROM's go!). You can get a link to the latest Orange ROM (v1.93) here, or flash one of the superb cooked ROM's in this forum
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Thanks a lot. But flashing with v1.93 will not do anything bad with the set. I once tried to upgrade my Imate jamin and it went dead and was not repaired. So I am a little hesitant you know.

you have already voided your warranty by flashing a Hard SPL. i would suggest flashing it back to the original, then flashing the latest Orange ROM (its not supposed to be too bad).

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you have already voided your warranty by flashing a Hard SPL. i would suggest flashing it back to the original, then flashing the latest Orange ROM (its not supposed to be too bad).
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Thanks a lot. Could you please further tell me how to flash it.

read the tutorial in the stickie.
lots of reading

Thansk. Just tell me which is the latest and best version that I should use?

did u even look at the other threads? ....
4 threads down from yours:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457980

Ok ok man. i got it myself without looking them thanks. But now I have this problem that messages are not being sent. i tried soft reset and hard reset but no avail. What could be the reason for that? B
By the way I upgraded it with 1.93 flash given above in this thread.

Try the new 2.00 ROM.
You can also try one of the smaller lite ones
(Swtos, Panosha), each time followed by a HARD reset (backup your Internal Storage data first).
If THAT doesn't work, you might have an SMS configuration/operator issue.
A.

messages not sent
make sure you have set the phone to your service provider....in connections