This is my first post of the like so go easy on me.
I'm in the process of writing an application to deal with the annoyances I found after frequently flashing my phone.
Everytime I would flash my phone, I would have to go back and resetup a ton of settings.
I even started exporting portions of the registry to my flash card, so I could reimport them after each flash. But it's difficult to update the reg files and tedious to reimport them along with reinstalling a folder full of applications.
Thus....
SettingsSavior was born.
This is definately a beta application. I did my best to test it on my own settings, but I expect your mileage may vary. I tried to only export registry keys which I thought wouldn't change too much between roms. That said who knows what would happen by adding regkeys from a different rom into your new one.
There isn't an installer yet so here are the instructions...
1) Download it to your phone
2) Create a /Storage Card/Program Files/SettingsSavior/ folder and move it into there. (It can be anywhere on your memory card, but that's where I'm going to put it when I get the installer built)
3) Run it and pick 'Backup'
4) Flash your phone (sometime in the future is fine)
5) Navigate to the install folder, and run the application again.
6) Uncheck any settings you don't want restored and pick "Restore".
7) Reboot (so the applications can pick up their new settings)
8) Post feedback here.
9) Make your own config files and post them here too.
If you have suggestions of areas of the registry I should add, please post them here in the thread.
Thanks,
Rob
Version History
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Download Version 0.8
* Not sure what happened to 0.7, did I think I uploaded it and never did? odd.
* Provisioning systems export feature enabled in the tools menu, can't import so not worth much right now. Thanks walshieau!
* Improved error handling
* Updated a few of the config.xml files to work better.
Download Version 0.6
* Fixed a few more areas where things can crash
* Added a reg dumper and a file hash dumper to help locate what's changing between reboots
* Figured a ton of stuff out about the reason bluetooth stuff isnt' working right, but I'm out of time to work on it tonight.
* Tomorrow is mothers day
* Double checked all the reg exports against another regexporter to make sure I'm not making any mistakes (found 2 differences and changed my stuff to be like the others, not sure if it'll make a difference)
Download Version 0.5
* Much more error handling
* File based error log for file copies (beats popup dialogs!)
* Sorted the Configs on screen by filename
* Unchecked (Beta) Rules, some of them have some issues. This helps set expectations...
* Added Support for MultiString reg keys, some how I missed that up to this point. They were previously ignored.
* Upgraded the Config's alot. Combined many of them into one 'General Windows Mobile Settings' package.
* Other stuff I'm not remembering right now.
Download Version 0.4
* Added file copy support
* Fixed issue with DWord handler
* Added some WaitCursors
* Added a few new XML configs.
* Fixed the 'Restore' button defaulting problem. Should default to restore the first time the app runs if there is data to restore on the memory card.
* Forced the application to save it's data to the /Storage Card/Program Files/SettingsSavior/ directory, rather than the folder it was installed in.
* More items I've forgotten, I'm sure.
Download Version 0.3
* Added error handler for bad XML
* Added Wait Cursors during backup
* Changed DWord handler from uInt to long, still chasing a bug here but this should help.
Download Version 0.2
* This version is driven off of config XML files, instead of being hardcoded. Make your own!
* With config files also comes the ability to support multiple reg keys (any number) per checkbox
* Support Framework for moving files is in the XML but isn't implemented. (Time for bed)
Download Version 0.1
* Everything is hardcoded
* The reg files were in the top level folder with the application
* Messy, Messy, Messy
dny238 said:
This is my first post of the like so go easy on me.
I'm in the process of writing an application to deal with the annoyances I found after frequently flashing my phone.
Everytime I would flash my phone, I would have to go back and resetup a ton of settings.
I even started exporting portions of the registry to my flash card, so I could reimport them after each flash. But it's difficult to update the reg files and tedious to reimport them along with reinstalling a folder full of applications.
Thus....
SettingsSavior v 0.1 was born.
Download it here.
This is definately a beta application. I did my best to test it on my own settings, but I expect your mileage may vary. I tried to only export registry keys which I thought wouldn't change too much between roms. That said who knows what would happen by adding regkeys from a different rom into your new one.
There isn't an installer yet so here are the instructions...
1) Download it to your phone
2) Create a /Storage Card/Program Files/SettingsSavior/ folder and move it into there. (It can be anywhere on your memory card, but that's where I'm going to put it when I get the installer built)
3) Run it and pick 'Backup'
4) Flash your phone (sometime in the future is fine)
5) Navigate to the install folder, and run the application again.
6) Uncheck any settings you don't want restored and pick "Restore".
7) Reboot (so the applications can pick up their new settings)
8) Post feedback here.
The application saves a bunch of .reg files to the same directory where it was copied. If you have suggestions of areas of the registry I should add, please post them here in the thread.
Thanks,
Rob
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have you directally tried a reg hive import and export?? cause they work for me...
Error on the link
Looks to be an errror on the link. Says "ERROR in CGI."
-Humbert
HHumbert said:
Looks to be an errror on the link. Says "ERROR in CGI."
-Humbert
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Sure enough, wonder what's wrong with the webserver. I am not at home to work on it. Check back in a bit.
Rob
Have you also thought about backing up folders from the device? ie Application Data
My One Note notebooks are kept there...
Fixed the url in the orig post.
Ok, for some reason I had to zip up the exe file.
Sorry about that I didn't want to have to do that, so that it was easier to download onto a phone directly.
Rob
doedoe said:
Have you also thought about backing up folders from the device? ie Application Data
My One Note notebooks are kept there...
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Absolutely! This is version 0.1 and all it does is hardcoded registry settings. I have plans to let it operated off of XML based config files that the community could create. Those XML files should define the registry settings and files to backup, etc.
If you have suggestions for set of files and registry settings for apps, let me know.
Do you think there is value in just backing up the Application Data folder? I might be able to finish that tonight.
Rob
CGI error will be because you'll have a mime type for applications and it's trying to run your program instead of downloading it. No big deal there. Zip file fixed it.
What is your program written in? I'm assuming .Net 2 but I'm just curious. If you need a hand with anything just let me know. I seem to have an abundance of time on my hands.
Maz
UDAMAN!!!
I will be testing this. I have been thinking about how to do this for a long time. I'm not a programer, but I have work and managed programers. I will be providing you with as much feed back as possible. I am having a hard time downloading the first version. Can you zip it up and then post it again? Thanks for the hard work. I hope I can be of help to you in my testing and feedback.
Erik
Ideas
Here is a list of ideas of things that I have to go through when setting up my device after a flash.
1: notification and sound settings
2: sounds and ringtones
3: alarm settings
4: messaging settings (I don't know if this is possible but I'd love to be able to back this up)
5: connection settings
6: auto install applications
etijburg said:
UDAMAN!!!
I will be testing this. I have been thinking about how to do this for a long time. I'm not a programer, but I have work and managed programers. I will be providing you with as much feed back as possible. I am having a hard time downloading the first version. Can you zip it up and then post it again? Thanks for the hard work. I hope I can be of help to you in my testing and feedback.
Erik
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Cool, looking forward to feedback.
Is it still not working?
http://www.geekspeakradio.com/wp-content/SettingsSaviorv1.zip
Try this url.
Thanks,
Rob
etijburg said:
Here is a list of ideas of things that I have to go through when setting up my device after a flash.
1: notification and sound settings
2: sounds and ringtones
3: alarm settings
4: messaging settings (I don't know if this is possible but I'd love to be able to back this up)
5: connection settings
6: auto install applications
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I'll look over these and see how each will work.
I did #4 but I use ActiveSync against a Exchange Server and Windows Live aka Hotmail.
I use a Cab for my Connection Settings, but I'll add it to my list.
These are all good suggestions.
Thanks,
Rob
dny238 said:
Cool, looking forward to feedback.
Is it still not working?
http://www.geekspeakradio.com/wp-content/SettingsSaviorv1.zip
Try this url.
Thanks,
Rob
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It works now. Thanks, Rob. Of course, I *just* flashed to 3.0.1, so I will not be able to tell the real effect until the next time that I need to flash again.
Totally appreciate your efforts on this front, though.... You will truly be a savior!
-Humbert
dny238 said:
I'll look over these and see how each will work.
I did #4 but I use ActiveSync against a Exchange Server and Windows Live aka Hotmail.
I use a Cab for my Connection Settings, but I'll add it to my list.
These are all good suggestions.
Thanks,
Rob
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I am working on a cab file as well. I haven't found one that does the setting just the way I like them. I'm on cingular and I don't use medianet and no proxy server. Non of the settings cabs for cingular is just right for me so I'm going to work on my own. I'll be posting it when I get it right. I'm hoping for something that can do the exchange settings for me as part of the restore process.
etijburg said:
I am working on a cab file as well. I haven't found one that does the setting just the way I like them. I'm on cingular and I don't use medianet and no proxy server. Non of the settings cabs for cingular is just right for me so I'm going to work on my own. I'll be posting it when I get it right. I'm hoping for something that can do the exchange settings for me as part of the restore process.
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I'll look inside the registry for these settings. They were in the 'HCKU\Comm' key if I recall. I'll look around here in the registry...
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook\CINGULAR GPRS]
Rob
Sample XML Config file.
Here is a sample config file. I imagine it will change a bit as I actually try to implement it.
The idea is that anyone could create their own config file and share them with the community. These files would tell me what you want to backup and restore. This isn't a real example, so hang with me on it.
In my current app, everything is hardcoded. In the next version, it'll run off of these config files. One checkbox would exist for each config file. The Checkbox name would be the PackageName. As the backup runs, it would store everything in the PackagePath folder inside the Savior Directory.
The rest of the XML file defines as many reg keys and file paths as you need to capture all of the settings you want to backup for your 'package'.
Feedback encouraged.
Rob
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<BackupPackage xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns="http://www.cpandl.com">
<PackageName>Windows Live</PackageName>
<PackageDescription>Windows Live files and reg keys</PackageDescription>
<PackagePath>WinLive</PackagePath>
<Keys>
<RegKey>
<RegFile>WindowsLive.reg</RegFile>
<KeyPath>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live\</KeyPath>
</RegKey>
<RegKey>
<RegFile>WindowsLive2.reg</RegFile>
<KeyPath>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live2\</KeyPath>
</RegKey>
</Keys>
<BPPaths>
<BPFile>
<DestinationFolder>AppData</DestinationFolder>
<FilePath>\Application Data\</FilePath>
</BPFile>
<BPFile>
<DestinationFolder>ProgFiles</DestinationFolder>
<FilePath>\Program Files\Windows Live\</FilePath>
</BPFile>
</BPPaths>
</BackupPackage>
Awesome stuff man!
I've been waiting for something like this since I started Flashing
It would be nice if you can include a couple of other things.
1. Keyboard Layout settings (Since I have a Softbank X01HT I have to always have to English hack the registry to convert it)
2. Bluetooth and Device ID (My Activesync always thinks its a different a device after I flash)
3. Regional Settings too
Also I'm wondering if you could possibly look into the PIM Backup included to this. Then it would be the one stop shop for restoring after a flash. Maybe even integrate it with the ROMS so it just a happens during setup
Now if you can figure out a way to back up the Speed Dial entries I'LL BE REALLY IMPRESSED...
ROCK ON!
I have been timing how long it takes to do this all by hand after every flash and I'm currently at 10 minutes....would love to not have to do this EVER AGAIN.
Ezra
Updated to Version 0.2!
ezrabenun said:
ROCK ON!
I have been timing how long it takes to do this all by hand after every flash and I'm currently at 10 minutes....would love to not have to do this EVER AGAIN.
Ezra
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Ok, I updated it as promised. Now I have to go to bed.
I did some quick testing in the debugger, but didn't copy it down to my real device so I left the link for the 0.1 version on the main page.
This version still only supports registry keys, the xml I posted earlier shows my initial thoughts on how to support file copies. I'll try to implement that tomorrow.
Can't wait to see people start sharing Config.xml files.
Download Version 0.2.
Night all,
Rob
Related
hi guys,
I've been following all the different threads and topics for a while and it has been a very nice friendly place to be in.
Anyhow.. i would like to know if someone can direct me to how to make a cab file which will input all my setting, owner name, install program a, b, c, d, e, f, g and etc then will fix up the registry key and enter all the serials i have brought in the past. This way i don't have to reinstall each program (both cab and exe) again after upgrade the ROM
I'musing Black 2.5 atm and looking forward to get balck 3 today
Thanks guys
Ditto!
I think such app would be very useful for all of us beta testers
Or taster of new flavours!
Maybe our chefs already has something like this that they use!
Some are in the works
JJ and walshieau are working on projects similar to this.
JJ has "Pimp my Black" which is HTweakC on steriods and walshieau is building an app that will restore your carrier settings.
Loading apps back on are easy, as long as you sync with a PC. They never uninstall from your PC, just simply re-check the ones you want to reload on your device and there they are again.
Backup programs like SPB and Sprite have known issues between builds, as I'm sure you know since you posted as if you've read the forums on this subject. Kudos.
It would be really cool if JJ and walshieau would combine forces and make that one killer app for all customizations to be saved to a file and restored once flashed, and if a customization were to have a format or length issue, then toss an error and let the user know. (hint, program spec??? )
I keep a backup on storage card of each of the roms I've tried...just in case.....I wonder if this is misguided somehow.
Thanks.
This is my current method:
put all the cab files (inc carrier setting -offline by walshieau) in the storage card and also along with all the serial numbers in there.
I tended to do things on the go (out of the house/ no pc) so if i happened to flash my phone before i leave my house then i will be able to install all the apps back by the time i get to work. Altho it's a lengthy instalaltion process (swapping the apps, folder, serial number, folder, app, enter rego).
i actually i was going to ask so if SPB backup and other back up will not work properly right? Say, i am using black 2.5 and backup here.... then upgrade to black 3 version then if i use restore program.. it will restore me back to 2.5 instad of 3 ... is this information correct? i read it somewhere....
I used SBP backup on Black 2.0 and then flashed 2.5 and restored from the 2.0 backup. It worked and shows the new com manager skin but it reports as 2.0 in the "about" screen so I know that this isn't the right way to go. Knowing that 3.0 was comming soon and considering that the device works great I've left it this way.
When 3.0 comes out I will load my apps and data without SBP. Then after it's up I will make a backup of the fresh 3.0 installation.
i am interested in such tools too although using the Dopod D810 aka Trinity.
RemE said:
I used SBP backup on Black 2.0 and then flashed 2.5 and restored from the 2.0 backup. It worked and shows the new com manager skin but it reports as 2.0 in the "about" screen so I know that this isn't the right way to go. Knowing that 3.0 was comming soon and considering that the device works great I've left it this way.
When 3.0 comes out I will load my apps and data without SBP. Then after it's up I will make a backup of the fresh 3.0 installation.
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I am using Sprite 5.1 and it does the backup and migration from Black 2.0 to 2.5 very well only have to redo my Wifi and Email settings, all my apps works fine. The FAQ to do it is available at Sprite's website on doing devie upgrade or OS upgrades with Sprite and WM5, works fine with WM6
Be aware that SPB Backup and Sprite Backup cant restore backups on different ROM's. Mobile Backup 2007 says it can but I havent tried it yet..
Dunno if I can post the follwing link but its the place you can get Mobile Backup:
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=157755&highlight=mobile+backup
I have Sprite but last time I used it on WM5 after a hard reset, it would not restore my data So I dumped it and went with SPB which has worked flawlessly ever since. I just don't see how any backup would work properly when restoring onto a different rom, I got away with it but I know that it's not 100% right now.
i was thinking of making my own cab file where specific to install
A, B, C, D....... G software (cab files), then install carrier setting, patch all the serial numbers to each softwares, change the look and all the setting in WM6 to match my like... damn it sound so hard and i don't even know how to make a cab file...
is something like this possible to learn?
I am slowly reducing the number of cabs I need to keep on my storage card by combining and creating them with my set ups.
As I have limited knowledge, this involves using sktracker to see exactly what changes were made in the registry when I changed a setting, and then using cabmanager to create a cab containing the reg settings (or say for spb weather, adding the changes to the original cab).
I understand that patching in the serials is not straightforward as it is not meant to be easy by design.
Am having trouble with some settings like email account setup, but am working through others.
crazyC: Im having the same trouble with email accounts. It doesnt look like they are saved in the registry settings, must be in the database somewhere.
Also if you add your own registry settings to the original Cab files do you know what order things are done? ie. if it writes your reg file then installs the app it might overwrite yours.
senergy said:
crazyC: Im having the same trouble with email accounts. It doesnt look like they are saved in the registry settings, must be in the database somewhere.
Also if you add your own registry settings to the original Cab files do you know what order things are done? ie. if it writes your reg file then installs the app it might overwrite yours.
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Yeah I don't know anything about creating the database entries so am going to have to leave that.
As for the second point - I am kind of winging it so to speak, so no I don't realy know.....
As I said, am most pleased with my custom SPB weather cab, as this installs the BBC template and sets up my work and home locations as the two tabs, linking off the bbc weather source.
Have also modified the Phone Alarm cab for my skin and settings, but as there is anew beta every few days at the mo, not so useful
Am about to start work on O2 plus, and setting up my shortcuts etc on install.
looking for mobile backup 2007...is this the one
trial here
CrazyC-
been messing around with the same ideas and it's driving me crazy ha.. Do you have to manually duplicate the registry entries you want when you're adding them to the original cab file (phone alarm, for instance)?
I was trying to extract the relevant registry entries, and have a program that would let me pack them into a cab, but everything i found wanted me to manually create registry keys..
any thoughts? cause it's flashing season ha
The safest way when going between ROMs is reinstalling. I use a few techniques.
1. Install CAB files from SD card. Then you just install them one by one by tapping. Installing from Activesync can be problematic memorywise as the CAB will copy down to main memory and then be deleted after installation. This can be an issue if you have too many apps to install at once.
2. Unless the new ROM has the same device ID, email settings really have to be manually entered each time. I experimented with workarounds but they simply don't work.
3. After you install all your programs, import registry keys containing your common settings. Before erasing the previous setting, do a registry dump and then search for and find those registry keys that contain the settings. Most (but not all) are in HKEY Current User. Be careful. Don't import stuff that might break the new ROM.
4. Copy files or shortcuts from old ROM to new one. Careful though - if you are going to copy directories, use Total Commander or something. SPB Backup and WM File Explorer will REMOVE the old contents of a directory and replace it with only the stuff you have in your new copy of the directory! Total Commander only updates the new items.
5. Unfortunately, the only way to REMOVE files or registry keys (short of writing a DLL file or fancy XML?) is to manually search and delete them. I think you could probably use Mortscript to automate this but not worth the time probably unless you are flashing every day.
Between copying certain files and registries, many of my programs end up 'pre registered' on the new system. (SPB time, etc.)
Actually, I make a cab file with my preferred settings and files. I just click and go. This covers pretty much everything except email. Unfortunately the program I use cost 89$... but when I consider my billable hours, it's worth the saved time over the long run.
I can get all programs + settings in place in about 40 minutes now.
Actually, I am using visual studio 2005 and making the adjustments to the emulator image, whilst watching the registry in the remote registry viewer. Once have identified the keys, I export them as reg files and then simply import them into cabmanager.
Depends on if you have access to VS2005.
I am sure there is a simpler way, (and am happy to learn it) but as I have occassional access to VS2005, this was how I decided to do it. Am using the WM6 SDK as well of course.
Because I keep updating the Phone Alarm beta, I actually modified the cab for the VisDaPhone skin to include my modified icons, and also to install the PA export file. Just running that cab after installing Phone alarm, and then importing the theme etc works for me. I did roll it all into one on an earlier version of PA, so it all started as per my settings, but then there was a new beta......
khammo01 said:
I can get all programs + settings in place in about 40 minutes now.
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I reckon (thanks to the exchange server) I can be back up in twenty!
If I can sort out the O2plus setup then I will reduce that as well.
I keep a word document on my sd card with a step by step guide for myself with serial numbers etc and settings.
khammo01 said:
Between copying certain files and registries, many of my programs end up 'pre registered' on the new system. (SPB time, etc.)
Actually, I make a cab file with my preferred settings and files. I just click and go. This covers pretty much everything except email. Unfortunately the program I use cost 89$... but when I consider my billable hours, it's worth the saved time over the long run.
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do yo mind telling what's the program name/url that woul dbe?
I have the new 1.33 Brightpoint ROM installed. I was wondering if there was any way to remove the ClearVue Office programs from my phone? I was just going to use the Windows Mobile Office cab that I found on this forum.
FSame here for the latest HTC rom.
Possible Solution
I found the files but don't have access to delete them.
Shorcuts located in \Windows are named : "ClearVue <and 1 of the 3 apps>".
If you check the properties you'll notice that the executable for these are located in \Windows\WTCVDocV.exe (that's the DOC one for example).
Then after doing this (you should make sure just in case), you can delete the files. Mine were:
wtcvdocv.exe
wtcvpres.exe
wtcvwsv.exe
You probably have to remove the folder that's in the start menu also.
Anyone know how to get around the permissions issue?
As these files are would be located in ROM there is not much you can do. ROM uses a different storage format from conventional files that is set up when the ROM is built, so deleting them isn't really an option - maybe there is some way to hide them though.. Probably the best thing to do is to forget about them
Now that I found this again, maybe this clears the question up a bit:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/12/29/why-can-t-i-copy-programs-out-of-windows.aspx
Thanks for the info!
I appreciate the info!
There has to be a way to get around this - Registry hack or some other kind of work-around. If anyone knows - Please be kind enough to share the knowledge
Gentlemen, (and ladies if any of you are hiding around here)
Whenever I flush my device I use PIM Backup and Sashimi to restore PIM data and install some of the apps I use. The thing I'm missing is a simple way to backup other device characteristics and features. These are many small things, like the order of the manila tabs, communication settings etc. They are all pretty simple to set manually, but since there are many of them it would be nice to find an automatic way to do them.
Below is a numbered list of things I would like to restore. If you have a good solution to anything on the list, please post it here. If you have other things you would like to backup, please add them as well.
1) Tab order in TF3D [hint]
2) List of apps included in the "Start" menu [solution - files]
3) List of cities in the weather tab [solution - Reg entry]
4) List of "Favorites" in the People tab [solution - file]
5) Browser Bookmarks [solution - files]
6) Internet Services Settings (e.g. The default access name is "uinternet" and I have to set it to "internet" manually) [possibe solution]
7) Default ring tones
8) Programs in the Program Launcher tab [solution - Reg entry]
9) Email accounts (PIM backup fails to set up my IMAP accounts. I'm not even sure it suppose to) [hint]
I'm aware of apps that can be used change many settings, like "Diamond Advanced Config", or the "Diamond TF3D Config". If possible don't just pint to apps that can do something manually, but suggest how to script a solution that can make the changes automatically.
For the purpose of this thread please assume that Sashimi is installed and can be used, but if the solution calls for a script or a registry entry change, please include or quote the file that can be used with Sashimi.
This is my first post in this tremendously helpful, active and important site, so I would also like to say thanks to all of the contributors, chefs, admins, moderators etc. who are supporting this site.
Owlen
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1) Tab order in TF3D
2) List of apps included in the "Start" menu
3) List of cities in the weather tab
4) List of "Favorites" in the People tab
5) Browser Bookmarks
6) Internet Services Settings (e.g. The default access name is "uinternet" and I have to set it to "internet" manually)
7) Default ring tones
8) Programs in the Program Launcher tab
9) Email accounts (PIM backup fails to set up my IMAP accounts. I'm not even sure it suppose to)
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I'm sorry I can't give you working Mort scripts or .reg files etc. At least, not yet. But I'm searching for similar info and solutions, as I have the same need to automate installation after hard reset as much as I can. In general, for settings that are saved in the registry, you'll have to find out where the registry keys are saved, so you can export and import them using Sashimi.
1) I suggest asking sushilange, the creator of Diamond TF3D Config, or schaps, the creator of Advanced Config, how and where Manilla saves the TF3D tab order. If the registry is used, we can export the keys and import them using Sashimi. If the tabs are saved in one or more of the obscure Manilla files in \Windows, we can also save and restore them using Sashimi.
2) If I understand you correctly, just save and restore any shortcuts you like from \Windows\Start Menu with Sashimi.
3) You can try to add cities for your Manilla/ROM by setting up and running this application as part of your Sashimi setup. Or you can contact the creator, or the creator of the WeatherDatabaseEditor and find out which file(s) to backup and restore using Sashimi, after you're done editing your cities..
4) Don't know yet. Maybe sushilange, D-MAN666 or any of the other guys working on editing Manilla know how and where Manilla saves the TF3D contact favorites..
5) For Opera Mobile save and restore \Windows\Opera9\opera6.adr. For Pocket Internet Explorer save and restore \Windows\Favorites
6) Have a look at the provisioning functions in Makisu. I know the previous version of Makisu can setup e-mail accounts and maybe the new version can setup connections as well..
7) Don't know yet, probably somewhere in the registry
8) I suggest seacrhing or asking sushilange how and where Manilla saves the programs in the TF3D Programs tab. If the registry is used, we can export the keys and import them using Sashimi. If the tabs are saved in one or more of the obscure Manilla files in \Windows, we can also save and restore them using Sashimi.
9) Have a look at the provisioning functions in Makisu. You can't create your e-mail accounts with the backup applications I know..
favorite people seems to be in the pim.vol file. You can copy that file to internal storage and restore is using total commander.. or spb backup restores the favorite people as well
programs in manilla are listed in the registry under this key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher]
cities found under weather are in the registry here:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
back it up and pop it in sashimi
good luck with the rest... its sad we have yet to see an all-in-one backup solution. Actually, i think it'd be great to see a manilla backup program developed for the issues you're raising.. tab order, people, programs, weather, etc
im eagerly awaiting this, ROM updates are so annoying when there's no simple backup solution
Please take a look before you post a thread in a certain section. This has nothing to do with ROM development...
Thanks for the hints, people. I'll start linking to them.
I'm still not sure how to contact the apps developers. If anyone can point them here that would be great.
mccune, I considered putting it elsewhere, but I think the issue of automating many small stuff like that is mostly common for people who flush ROMs. I believe that currently this thread is the one they read most often. If this thread will have some good solutions, or even better, lead to a development of a tool that can take care of all of this, I guess it could be placed anywhere and maybe the standard sticky tutorials would link to it.
If anyone has additional stuff he would like to restore – please post and I'll try to put it up in the list.
Mandragore & racerx_, thanks for the answers!
I have opened a thread here with all info to do automatic backup of all you have asked for, and more.
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I have opened a thread here with all info to do automatic backup of all you have asked for, and more.
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Very good, thanks!
I want to install themes and I've read just about everything out there on this subject and still don't understand how to do it safely for this phone. There are a ton of threads on this but not one of them explains how to go about installing themes safely.
Some say just dump the .tsk files into the windows folder, others say use Diamond TF3D Config, others say not to use it because there's a version coming out specifically for the HD, others say cabs aren't as good as .theme files because you may not be able to uninstall the cab...
So I'm asking...for those of you who try out almost every theme that comes out...how are you doing it? Can you explain what you use, which types of theme files you use, how you safely change from one theme to another, and why your method is the method you choose to use?
Here are some things I've read that I'm not sure are true or not (please confirm/reject if you know):
-xxx.tsk files are a type of theme file you need to put in the Application folder and are only good for the "top and bottom bars"
-you have to use Diamond TF3D Config to install xxx.theme files; there are 2 versions of this software, one for gsm and one for cdma; you may need to delete the "tweaks file" for this software to work; there is a new version (version 1.0) coming out specifically for the Touch HD
-some say you must install xxx.theme files into the windows directory...others say you can install them in any folder you want
-even after installing a theme, you may need to perform extra steps to fix the top and bottom bars and to have the correct background
So, I know these things, but still don't understand. What is the cleanest way to install and change themes without leaving behind clutter files...is it by using a cab, by using a zip, by using diamond tf3d config?
I'd greatly appreciate if someone experienced who's tried different methods of installing/changing themes would respond and help clarify some of these confusing details.
anybody know?
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I want to install themes and I've read just about everything out there on this subject and still don't understand how to do it safely for this phone. There are a ton of threads on this but not one of them explains how to go about installing themes safely.
Some say just dump the .tsk files into the windows folder, others say use Diamond TF3D Config, others say not to use it because there's a version coming out specifically for the HD, others say cabs aren't as good as .theme files because you may not be able to uninstall the cab...
So I'm asking...for those of you who try out almost every theme that comes out...how are you doing it? Can you explain what you use, which types of theme files you use, how you safely change from one theme to another, and why your method is the method you choose to use?
Here are some things I've read that I'm not sure are true or not (please confirm/reject if you know):
-xxx.tsk files are a type of theme file you need to put in the Application folder and are only good for the "top and bottom bars"
-you have to use Diamond TF3D Config to install xxx.theme files; there are 2 versions of this software, one for gsm and one for cdma; you may need to delete the "tweaks file" for this software to work; there is a new version (version 1.0) coming out specifically for the Touch HD
-some say you must install xxx.theme files into the windows directory...others say you can install them in any folder you want
-even after installing a theme, you may need to perform extra steps to fix the top and bottom bars and to have the correct background
So, I know these things, but still don't understand. What is the cleanest way to install and change themes without leaving behind clutter files...is it by using a cab, by using a zip, by using diamond tf3d config?
I'd greatly appreciate if someone experienced who's tried different methods of installing/changing themes would respond and help clarify some of these confusing details.
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Well it really depends on what you want to change. TSK files really only change the color of the top and bottom bars, highlights, etc. If you are referring to changing icons, transparency, etc of Manila/TouchFlo, that is a bit more involved. There are applications out there like Maxycy's TF3D Theme Maker that will assist with this. Also, like you said, there are lots of cabs floating around with customizations in them. Most, if not all cabs can be uninstalled. Your best bet if you want to start playing with your device is to get some backup software, like SPB Backup or Sprite Backup, and then playing with your device. Then you don't need to be worried about messing it up. You could just do a hard reset and then restore the backup and be back to where you were before playing around
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Well it really depends on what you want to change. TSK files really only change the color of the top and bottom bars, highlights, etc. If you are referring to changing icons, transparency, etc of Manila/TouchFlo, that is a bit more involved. There are applications out there like Maxycy's TF3D Theme Maker that will assist with this. Also, like you said, there are lots of cabs floating around with customizations in them. Most, if not all cabs can be uninstalled. Your best bet if you want to start playing with your device is to get some backup software, like SPB Backup or Sprite Backup, and then playing with your device. Then you don't need to be worried about messing it up. You could just do a hard reset and then restore the backup and be back to where you were before playing around
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Thanks alot for your response. I have sprite backup and have made many backups but was hoping not to ever have to restore from one (afraid it won't work perfectly)...that's why I'm trying to understand all of the details. I guess my only concern is not being able to go back to a previous state EXACTLY as it was before installing a theme. From all of the methods available, what would you say is the best (not necessarily the easiest) and cleanest way to prevent random files from appearing or disappearing after installing or removing a theme?
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Thanks alot for your response. I have sprite backup and have made many backups but was hoping not to ever have to restore from one (afraid it won't work perfectly)...that's why I'm trying to understand all of the details. I guess my only concern is not being able to go back to a previous state EXACTLY as it was before installing a theme. From all of the methods available, what would you say is the best (not necessarily the easiest) and cleanest way to prevent random files from appearing or disappearing after installing or removing a theme?
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If you have Sprite Backup, do a full backup. Once you have that you can completely destroy the current setup on your phone. Once you hard-reset just execute the backup file Sprite created. When the restore comes up do a merge level 1 restore. It will put your phone back to the exact state it was before. I have done this many many times as I do craptons of testing
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If you have Sprite Backup, do a full backup. Once you have that you can completely destroy the current setup on your phone. Once you hard-reset just execute the backup file Sprite created. When the restore comes up do a merge level 1 restore. It will put your phone back to the exact state it was before. I have done this many many times as I do craptons of testing
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Thanks man, I took a step forward and did my first manila mod last night. It's amazing...by simply taking three manila files I found in Maxycy's Theme Maker and replacing the originals with them, I now have background for all tabs and a new clock ha. I've also downloaded m9editor and Manila Editor and have a better understanding of how individual files influence the system. Thanks again for the support...who knows maybe I'll even be able to create a theme one day.
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Thanks man, I took a step forward and did my first manila mod last night. It's amazing...by simply taking three manila files I found in Maxycy's Theme Maker and replacing the originals with them, I now have background for all tabs and a new clock ha. I've also downloaded m9editor and Manila Editor and have a better understanding of how individual files influence the system. Thanks again for the support...who knows maybe I'll even be able to create a theme one day.
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See, it's easier than you think! Good job and good luck! Backups are your friend
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See, it's easier than you think! Good job and good luck! Backups are your friend
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I was on a roll until now...I encountered my first serious problem and will need to hard reset and restore from backup. You mentioned to do a merge level 1 restore. Is this what I should do even if I have all original ROM, radio, etc? From what I've read on the Sprite website, level one is the most "complicated" level and is MOST likely to fail. However, you and others on here say to use level 1 bc it causes the LEAST problems.
My default settings are as follows:
-unchecked box for "delete all files"
-checked box for "check for corrupt registry"
-system settings restore set to "merge" instead of replace
-upgrade mode set to "personal data only" instead of merge
How come one option is set for merge and the other isn't? Should I change the upgrade mode option to merge level 1? I'm assuming this option wouldn't apply to me since I haven't upgraded anything, but I'm not sure...
[and just for information/advise: my problem occurred when I clicked on the cab for sdkcerts that came with the Max TTM program. The program worked perfectly and everything was ok until I clicked on that cab. I wanted to install custom taskbars and read that you needed sdkcerts first, so I clicked on the sdkcerts cab I just happened to find in the Max TTM folder (bad move). Ever since doing so, almost half of my programs no longer open bc it's either "missing a component or is not certified." So, long story short, don't click on the sdkcerts cab or install another sdkcerts cab after installing Max TTM bc Max TTM already has a sdkcerts cab which I'm assuming automatically installs when you install Max TTM]
EDIT: I went ahead and restored via sprite backup with the settings described above and it worked PERFECTLY...all of my contacts, appointments, programs, system settings, background, where I left off in a game, etc etc is now EXACTLY how it was at time of backup. The restoration went without any warnings or errors...I'm stunned at how perfect it went. Thanks again...
The only time you would want to do a merge level 1 restore is if you are restoring to a different rom than you backed up from. If you are restoring to the same rom that you created the backup from you can do a full, normal restore.
Is there any way for the SMS counter to go back to 0 when viewing several messages from one sender? Other wise I have to keep going back and opening for the counter to tick down.
On my 6800 I upgraded to the last DCD rom and it did the same. Only for that reason did I go back to his previous rom. This drives me nuts. The worst part is I recieved 15 angry texts from my ex wife. Who the heck wants to open that up 15 times for it to clear?
just go to the threaded messages & use the arrow keys to go select each & every one of them & it'll set the counter right. hope that makes sense.
I found a better fix. This adds "Mark all messages read"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379265
Is there still not a cab/real fix for this? I know that it is a problem with the version of WM that it shipped with but this is kind of ridiculous and Sprint/Whoever can't expect us to deal with this or install a cab that "makes it easier"
All other version of WM that i've ever used have never had this problem before and it is quite annoying if you stay in a text message for a while and then go out and have to click through 100 messages... Yes I've already installed the cab that adds "Mark all as read" but its still annoying.
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Download install that DLL into your windows and your all set. This is a well known issue with the DLL not letting go of the message properly. Fix thanks to Yay4juggs
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Download install that DLL into your windows and your all set. This is a well known issue with the DLL not letting go of the message properly. Fix thanks to Yay4juggs
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Downloaded and copied over to /Windows folder.
Works great!
Thanks a bunch for linking the file and thank you to Yay4juggs for fixing this.
One less thing about the TP2 that is annoying... Damn you stock sprint manilla icons and inability to use the FM radio yet!
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htmlnote.dll
My TP2 says it cannot copy over the file.
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Download install that DLL into your windows and your all set. This is a well known issue with the DLL not letting go of the message properly. Fix thanks to Yay4juggs
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thanks for the link...I never know of this issue until I got my tp2. I had 6 & 6.1 on my wing & never encountered the problem. 2 late to really test out iwth my friends.
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My TP2 says it cannot copy over the file.
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try using total commander to copy over.
For those that backup on a regular using sprite etc u have to add "htmlnote.dll" & "HTMLNOTE.DLL" to the exclude list other wise the backup will fail.
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For those that backup on a regular using sprite etc u have to add "htmlnote.dll" & "HTMLNOTE.DLL" to the exclude list other wise the backup will fail.
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I'm using Sprite Backup 6.5 and it works just fine without adding it to the exclusion list.
can someone please tell me what i need and what to do to install this!
I have this problem almost everytime I get a text. Its sooooo annoying!!
come on, all I need to do is install it. I copy it over to my tp2 and it doesn't show up. I installed total commander like someone said but all that did was let me see it. It has an error when I click on it.
You need to move the file and replace the old one, not try to open it. Try deleting the old one and then moving the new one in its place.
Delete the old what? And move it where? And once it's moved do I have to install something or does it just fix it by being there?
I'm not trying to be a jerk but if you read all the posts in this forum topic you would know what to do. I'll write out instructions for you however.
1. First, download this DLL
HTML NOTE DLL
2. Extract the file onto your desktop and then transfer it over to your phone via activesync, SD card, bluetooth, etc.
3. Wherever the file was copied to (be in in the root folder of the storage card or any other place, fire up Total Commander/Resco File Explorer and copy/move the "htmlnote.dll" over to /Windows folder. which is in the root folder of 'My Device'
*You will know that you are copying/moving it to the right location if you get a message stating that you would be overwriting the current file. If you do NOT get this message than you are either putting the modified "htmlnote.dll" in the wrong spot or your already deleted it from /Windows.
If you are still having further issues, please PM me and we will work this out.
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thank you, when I moved it over I didn't get a overwrite message but eversince I put that file in there I haven't had the problem. Slowly my phone is becoming more useable and less annoying
Thank you for the information, I have found this particular bug to be exceedingly annoying. I followed all the given instructions, but when i try to copy/move the file from my storage card, and get prompted to overwrite the existing file, Total Commander returns an error 'Cannot copy or move file!'
I had already tried this a few times, without any issue, and then soft reset my Sprint TP2. Since i still had the single unread sms bubble, i tried it again and got the error above.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
UPDATE:
I renamed the original to '000original' and was able to copy over the new .dll. However, after a soft reset, the problem still exists.
OK, found this thread and installed the cab. Worked like a charm...
Looks like i can't post links yet, so just search for FixUnreadCount.zip and that does the trick.
FINALLY
Thanks you for finding this .. ive spent the last week searching through files on my tp2 trying to find the right one .